Fast Facts: The Difference Between The Labor and Coalition NBN Plans

Still not sure about the difference between the Coalition NBN plan and that of the sitting Government? This three-minute broadband explained animation will help.

The key differences in construction are clear: Labor's NBN plan will see the government run fibre-optic cable along damn-near every street in the country to give fibre to each home. That's called fibre to the premise or FTTP. The ones it can't reach will be serviced by a wireless service or satellites.

The Coalition, however, wants to run a fibre to the node scheme, which would see fibre-optic cables run along the street and terminate at a big box. The old copper network will be used to deliver service on what's known as the "last-mile" to the house.

These two plans will also differ in terms of speed and cost, which is the main decision you'll need to make about which is more important in the lead up to the election.

Labor's plan is far more expensive than the Coalition's. Labor's bill comes in at $37.4 billion, while the Coalition's will reportedly cost $20.4 billion. Labor's plan will also take longer, with a delivery date of 2021 compared to the Coalition's delivery date of 2019. The kicker comes when you look at actual internet speeds: the Coalition promises a speed of 25Mbps download, while the government promises 100Mbps down as well as faster upload speeds.

All we have to decide now is whether it's going to be worth it.



    Can we please include the fact that the NBN will be able to deliver FAR MORE than 100Mbps by the time it is rolled out. Gigabit plans are already to be offered at the end of the year (As per NBN Co announcement in April -

    You also neglect to include that the back end infrastructure can be so easily upgraded to allow far more than 1Gbps, currently technology has been shown to be capable of Terabits per second, and the Labor plan makes upgrading later on a lot easier since copper isn't capable of gigabit speeds over a long distance.

    This decision shouldn't just be made based on the projected minimum speed of each network. There are many other things to consider.

    Edit: Didn't watch the video until after I posted this as I'm at work. Well, at least it's now there for people to read. Not everyone has times for video, you should include the important details in the article.

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      Well said!
      I'll add that and long term upgrading will be far cheaper on the Labor done right from the get go plan.
      Yes it costs alot but the next generation still paying for it is not unfair when they to get the benefit of having it and having it done right rather than being left with a burden to fix up later - which we know will not get done.

      'The technology' doesn't mention the type of fibre used has a limit, the sender and receiver has a limit. Just cause 'fibre' did 100 petabytes per nano second doesn't mean this will. The grade being rolled out will just reach 1GB, then need to be fully replaced. Liberals plan can take fibre too, same issues, they just plan on using whats already in place *if* it can deliver the minimum. Oh, and regarding mim speeds, YES, that's very important, don't be selfish and think about those that wont get fibre at all.

        Do you have any sources regarding your comments about the grade of fibre being rolled out? I searched but can't find anything mentioning what they use. Some install pictures suggest that they are using multi-mode fiber, since the conduit is orange.
        For those not in the know, Single mode fiber cables can transmit higher speeds over longer distances due to less light distortion.

        Either way it appears to be more dependent on the (upgradeable) back end technology rather than the actual fiber cable in use. Multi-mode fiber will likely be upgradeable in the future using different wavelengths and higher end laser equipment. It would be highly unlikely that the fiber cables need to be replaced in the foreseeable future as the technology advances, And definitely not before the copper network would need to be.

        I guess though, arguing that the fiber will need to be upgraded because it can't achieve over 1GBPS is a moot point, even if it was correct. The copper needs to be upgraded well before it can achieve anything close to that speed.

        Edit: For those interested in Single-Mode and Multi-Mode standard transmission speeds / distances (OM is the standards name):
        Single Mode Cable
        - 1Gbit over 20Km
        - OS1 (10 Gbit) over 2000m

        MultiMode Cable
        - OM1 - 10Mbit over 300 to 2000m
        - OM2 - 1Gbit over 500m
        - OM3 10Gbit (300m by standard) but some manufactures go to 500m
        - OM3+ 10 - 40Gbit over 500m

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    In fact, the government promises gigabit by the end of this year.

    There is no contest, the liberal proposal is a joke.

      I don't know about that. I thought it was a joke too but a couple of things are changing my mind.

      1) Do I, as a householder, need gigabit speeds? I'm a programmer and I know I don't.
      2) To get gigabit speeds, I would be paying shed loads for the service which I just wouldn't be able to afford.
      3) As a business, which I am not, can I still gain access to gigabit speeds if required? Well yes, but I'd pay for the service and the FTTP. Fair enough I think.
      4) If the network needed to be upgraded in the future to fiber, could it be? Yes, clearly.
      5) Do I need to upload at FTTP speeds? Well I don't upload a lot. A few websites for personal stuff and maybe the odd word document to dropbox but other than that, nothing much.

      Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for one party over another, I'm simply trying to point out what factors are in play to change my mind. Kicking and screaming maybe, but still.

        In previous arguments its been stated the cost to upgrade the NBN would exceed the initial cost to just build it properly. I cannot state it myself as fact though.

        In previous arguments its been stated the state of Telstra's copper network is terrible. I remember there being an article on that. (On a mobile so I'm not going to find it, sorry.) But replacing damaged/unusable sections will add cost.

        Then there's the nodes themselves. They need power and are more susceptavle to vandalism. I can imagine kids taking one out to spite someone else. Car accidents would also take them out. All in all, the option that doesn't require the maintenance of hundreds of thousands (millions? More?) of nodes is clearly the more cost effective in the long run.

        As an amatuer web developer, I'm also amazed you haven't seen the growing trend of things transferring to the Internet. Just recently I suggested SciFi, in wake of foxtell, should stream it's channel, not the shows but the actual channel, ads and all.

        We've already had fridges and toilets net capable for years. Is it really much of a stretch to think that, once the technology is in place, everything can be turned to net streaming? You watched a digital FTA channel during a storm? Yeah, me neither. Fuzz I could handle (analogue), thi god am jump sh pi es me ff. My Internet however, rarely fails. ('Cept when the exchange burned down. That sucked.)

        Either way, the growing trend with "the cloud", (be it major company or fancy FTP program), people are going to want to upload much more, sooner in the future. This doesn't even touch on the need for download. BF3 is what, 20GB now?

        I just cannot accept how anyone would pick LNP NBN over ALP NBN when taking into account, if nothing else, our growing dependency on the Internet.

          All good points by @stephanatcoles, however I've seen these comments far too much. This, as with all similar claims, I am in the same boat as. I too don't see the need for extremely fast upload/download speeds. I rarely use the internet for anything more than keeping up to date with tech news and amusing my spare time with some online gaming. When I am gaming, I do suffer from a little lag and that does make me rage occationally, but I'm not going to cry about it.

          BUT! As @tiberath stated... "In previous arguements it has been stated..." that by the time the NBN has reached it's completion, whether it be 2019, 2021 or 2030 (as I am sceptical that Abbott's promise will be met), technology at home in Australia, NAY, all over the world will be taking a giant leap forward! If someone had have said to me 10 years ago that everything was going to be stored on the cloud and that we would be watching live streaming videos from all over the world... Hell... Even space... I would have told them to go troll someone else. In 10 years from now, the internet WILL be playing a much greater role in our world. Business ventures, health care, news, research, gaming and even military. Don't be so naive as to believe that just because the vast majority of home users don't REQUIRE the speeds that the NBN will offer, that this technology will be wasted.

          The sooner the NBN is completed, the sooner the country as a whole can start to benefit from it. Not just you and I with our amble browsing skills on Gizmodo...

          NOTE: Tony! As a matter of PRINCIPAL, if I don't have my 25Mb/s NBN speeds by 2016... I'll be coming for you! 0.o

            Anyone expect the NBN to deliver the speed promised?
            How do you expect the international links to support this traffic, especially since it's from the US...
            Locally might be fine, but really, does the rest support the traffic we'd see?

        Who cares what you as an individual wants. This is about what is best for the nation and EVERYONE that lives in it.

      If you think you will actually get 1GB by end of 2013 (4mths) or even by end of FY2014 (10mths) you are going to be disappointed. Reality is that neither Libs nor ALP will get fibre to majority of premises in the next 3 yrs. The outcome will be pretty similar under either party, with Libs plans limited FTTP (and they will probably achieve less) and Labour's wider FTTP will probably achieve about the same number of premises connected. There is fibre through some areas (mostly CBD) already and some new estates will likely get this, but the wider roll out is very expensive, and while I dream of the next generation of high speed internet, I hold out more hope of 5G mobile bringing it than fibre, particularly if we are looking to government to do it!

    1gbps not 100mbps.

    Also, when Mr Turnbull says that an uncontested 1gbps link can cost up to $20,000, he may be right.. The key word here is "uncontested".

    Typically, an ADSL link has a contention ratio of between (20-50):1 with a typical amount of about 35:1.

    What this means, is that, lets say an ISP has a 24mbps dedicated/uncontested link to the internet, and has ADSL customers which connect at their full 24mbps, the ISP can connect 35 ADSL customers to that one 24mbps link.
    This is because not everyone is downloading at once and therefore can share the link.

    This is the reason why some ISPs are faster than others, is because of the contention ratio of their links.
    It is also one of the reasons why your internet slows down after you get home, when everyone else logs on.

    Except for extreme circumstances, this happens on ALL links.
    Typically, business users get a lower contention ratio than residential users, they may get 15:1 or 10:1.
    Unless the business has a private link (not to the internet), or they pay a LARGE sum of money, they won't get an uncontested link.

    So, if you buy an uncontested link, you are saying no-one else can share my link.
    If, like Mr Turnbull says, you have an uncontested 1gbps link, that is an ENORMOUS amount of wasted bandwidth that the provider has to give you.

    This would never happen.
    IMHO, I would guess that a 1gbps link would have a contention ratio of about (50-60):1 as there is a lot of bandwidth to be shared.
    You are effectively saying that you are buying 50-60 links at once, instead of 1.

    The wholesale price for a 1gbps is $150/month, so let's say it's $200/month for an average user.
    200 x 50 = $10,000.

    Also, I wrote this whole thing, then realised there was media coverage on this..


    Last edited 18/06/15 10:40 am

      A dartboard and a blindfold.

        Pin the tail on the Donkey!... No wait... Abbott... Or donkey... Oh whatever... Abbott is a Donkey anyway...

    I still feel that despite the costs, we are better off going with a more comprehensive broadband solution rather than savings costs and essentially deferring them until later or *shudder* leaving it to the market.

    I realise the costs associated with fibre-to-the-home are extensive, but I see it as a great leveller - giving the great advantages of high speed internet to all.

    I can only guess at the applications of such high capacity broadband, but I would imagine that much better remote medical services to marginal areas would be amongst them.

      Hence the mim speed. Not commonly known, the Liberals will be putting in fibre where the copper doesn't support than min.

    In the case of the Coalition taking government, I predict that the 'last mile' copper will fail as time goes on and the costs will end up greater than Labour's NBN plan. Copper has done it's job over the last 100 years but it's time to move on to new technology.

    Do it once, do it right.

    All of the preparation work has been done, why mess with it now?

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      I predict that the 'last mile' copper will fail as time goes on and the costs will end up greater than Labour's NBN plan

      If the coalition wins there will come a day when the expenditure of their network will overtake even the highest estimate of the NBN. On that day there will be a node on every street corner, copper still in the ground and a whole heap of people saying "we told you so".

        Just what we need, a whole bunch of cabinets on street corners to be taken out by errant drivers. Not to mention the cabinets are full of batteries that require maintenance as was highlighted previously.

          and your forgetting the vandals that will tag it and or wreck it... and i for one will not have such a cabinet outside of my house as i have to sometimes park the boat-trailer on it . Plus the cabinet may devalue the house that its sitting in front of. will people stand for their house devalued?

            Don't know how you would stop them as the verge isn't your land, also if it was right next your house you would have the fastest possible connection under the broken "fibre to the tardis" plan anyway.

        Exactly. In every single way you can think of their plan except this idiotic initial cost the liberal alternative is obviously far more expensive.
        You have to wonder why tech blogs like Gizmodo don't stress that more.
        It's a cheap, jury-rigged, half-arsed excuse for a plan that shows three things:
        - They actually don't care about costs at all.
        - They think all Australians are as dumb as shit.
        - They do not understand or care about technology.


          Meanwhile, back at Dr. Evil's Lair... Abbott laughs hysterically, "You all voted for me! Now all of you will pay! Mwahahahahahaha!!!"

      Didn't the coalition say they were going to do a full cost benefit analysis on it if they won the election?

      What happens if that analysis comes back and says that the NBN as it stands now is the best option? Will they still push for FTTN instead? or will they abandon their promise and continue with the FTTP rollout, saying that "The analysis shows that this is the best option" (something that we already know)

      This is one political promise being broken that I wouldn't have an issue with.

        No; they will just cancel the rollout completely rather than admit defeat

          I think they will most likely blame the previous government "Labor screwed up so badly it will cost us more to scrap their plan and do ours than it will to finish it" then they have the benefit of looking fiscally conservative, don't have to admit they were wrong and Australia gets the better network (win/win/win for them).

    Never underestimate company greed or australian innovation. I'd like to see if we had firbre to the node if companies wouldn't end up running it to the house and at a lot cheaper cost than the $3000 i see quoted. Either absorbing it in to longer term contracts or maybe the govt allowing it to be added to council rates - for example
    To continue quoting $37b as the roll out cost is absurd. It's already projected to go way past that. That being said, if it's already over budget just roll the thing out already. Where i live there should already be an active NBN connection but we are now at "within the next three years". i'd vote for either party, FTTH or FTTN if it could happen by 2017. Hurry up!

    I just had it hooked up, finally, and the speeds I'm getting are around 23Mb/s which is roughly twice what I was getting before. Having said that and I am a staunch Labor supporter and I back the current system 100% but 25Mb/s for the average household is really plenty for now. Businesses etc will need more but by and large we will survive on 25Mb/s. The reason I mention this is because KRud is falling behind and may not get over the line, I hope he does but it's not looking clever right now, so if he fails, all is not lost. Australia will have made a jump, if not a leap into the future and who knows maybe big Mal was just bluffing all along, at least I hope so... :)

      All of the supporters of the NBN in its current form will agree with you when you say that 25Mb/s is plenty for the average household now, which is true, it is enough. The main point that is used to counter that (which you are no doubt aware of being a Labor supporter) is that it's not about now, it's about future proofing.

      10 years ago, people were lucky to be getting 256k adsl into their house and that was enough, 5 years before that it was 56k dialup being enough, if that doesn't prove that futureproofing the countries network infrastructure is necessary, then I don't know what does.

        Unless, I want to watch a HD TV show streamed from the US at the same time my son wants to watch a different show while my wife is watching yet another show while my other son is on facebook or youtube. That 25mb/s becomes very little very fast.

          You won't be able to do that anyway, unless every source you use has big pipes in the first place. In other words, you could have 100Mb/s and still have issues because of the original bottleneck.

        Dude I'm not arguing, I'm just pointing out that if the Libs get in, at least there will still have been some advancement, if not the one we want... :)

          And who continues to maintain the copper network? All Telstra has to say is that they will refuse to maintain it and that it is sold as is. The government either has to buy it outright or pass a law to allow compulsary aquisition without fair compensation.

            Yeah, I just said.. I'm not arguing 'for' the liberals version.! I'm just stating that if they get in, we're stuck with it and at least it's better than what we have currently...

              So you will trade slightly 'advancement' gains (whatever that equates to) for huge losses in overall quality and future proofing of network infrastructure.
              Basically selling yours and our future because you cant wait. You (on a grander scale) is whats wrong with this world

                Where did he say that? He has said he's a Labor supporter, but he's using glass half full mentality: for the interim the FTTN plan will suffice.
                Relax mate..

                  Thanks, that's the third time someone replied without having either read or comprehended any of the comments I made. Some people just want to fight you for no reason... :)

              That's like saying "Any upgrade is better than what we have".... that's obviously true but a moot point. Kind of why people keep coming back and saying that it's pointless and stupid. Everyone pretty much agrees the FTTP is the way to go.

                Huh... ?

                  I literally can't figure out another way to word what I wrote, pretty straightforward.

                  On another point I read some of your other posts and my opinion boils down to FTTP or gtfo. Anything else is just a waste of time and money, I'd rather sit pretty for the next 5 years while they save their cash and then do the NBN rollout properly, it's a better solution then spending whatever figure they're going to spend on a pointless upgrade.

                  Dude I really don't care anymore, the deed is done we get what Abbot wants so just deal with it..!

      Timmahh - think about your kids & their kids - FTTH is a long term solution, exactly what the government should be investing in - future proof.

      "Australia has amongst the slowest available broadband speeds in the developed world. This is a huge impost to new technologies for business and education. Where FTTH is available, the cost is so high that only the largest businesses can afford it.

      Australia’s average speed of just 1.7Mbps is less than 1/30th of the average speed available in Japan, and about 1/3 of the average speed in the USA.[10] Even the Slovak Republic and Turkey have faster average internet access than Australia! What a disgrace.

      As FTTH networks are rolled out around the world, we are moving further and further behind."
      Credit: #5

        Dude if you read original the comment carefully you'll see that my whole comment was about what happens if the Libs get in... I made the point straight away that I was against their system. I was just saying that if they do get in, then at least some decent progress will still get made, maybe not ideal but better than nothing. If you want to keep the current iteration then rally your friends and family and get them to vote Labor...

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    No, the Liberal plan is far more expensive because of the increased maintenance costs involved with their choice of going with the old copper crap and those boxes. I think this has been gone over many times.
    The "take longer" point is also pretty crappy since many people are on 25mps already and that's about the best you can hope for on the Liberal plan so you' will be forever waiting for any upgrades to that, after 2019 or later you're burdened with being stuck with shit making it FAR harder to keep up with advances in tech and the rest of the world.
    Whereas Labour's plan involves a far more important and significant infrastructure upgrade that is more future-proof. It does allow for much higher speeds and services.

    It can not be stressed enough just how much of a fake alternative the Liberal plan is, especially when you are investing that much money! The simple fact is that under the liberal plan you're throwing that cash away. That is a far, far more expensive proposition.

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    that 'last mile' belongs to Rupert! hands off!!

    Speaking about NBN. What colour is the cable? I recently saw workers and trucks with large spools of green cables working near my house and I thought it was NBN but checked the street on the NBN website and it said within 3 years. Also the trucks had stock images of education and business printed on them, similar trucks are on google images.

      yeah i saw a work crew doing work with green fiber cable in Darwin's light industry area just outside the CBD. but alas where i am they will start work in December this year..... AFTER the election. and the NT gov already has the CBD "wired" with fiber for its departments.

      Could it have been for a new estate?

        Don't think so, closest construction site is a few kms and in a different suburb.

      NBN fiber = green
      Telstra fiber = blue

        Really, the blue Fibre cable is Telstra? But I saw NBNCo installing blue fibre cable though..

        This has a photo of Quigley rolling out a blue cable - I'd suggest in this case blue = NBN.

      The stuff I saw them installing in Toowoomba a few months back was blue & the stuff that was being installed in my general area was also blue.

        I live there to and I've got it hooked up the cable was green..

    Both are rubbish, cellular mobile networks will be able to provide HD download speeds in the not too distant future and fibre will be redundant except as a backbone

      LOL. Yeah okay mate. Have fun with your wireless internet connection that falls over when light rain happens or when everyone in the street or neighbourhood wants to check facebook or their emails of an evening.

        ...this is the same guy that thinks his 300mbps wi-fi is delivering 300 mbps throughput.
        The current crop of carrier grade wireless can easily sustain 1gbps - in three years that us what will be feeding your home LAN.

      "Much is claimed (usually by those with a vested interest) about the potential of wireless networks, with speeds such as 300Mbps being quoted. But this is highly deceptive, because those are peak speeds per cell site (ie per tower), not realistically achievable speeds for individuals. For example if the “300Mb” tower has just two users active, then speed is halved to 150Mbps. A trial of “4G/LTE” in 2009 showed that with just 20 people using any one tower, speed plummeted to just 7Mbps.[11] Distance, topography, buildings and weather also degrade available speeds. To put this in perspective, if only 2% of Australians wanted to be able to access even the slow 7Mbps speed at any one time, we would need to double the number of mobile phone towers across the country. For wireless to be an effective alternative to fibre, we would quite literally need a tower on every street corner. " Credit -> #6

    25 mbps minimum speed for libs.

      Yes, Liberal voters get 25mbps - only, the rest of us get 1gbps......

    Not to mention Malcolm Turnbull was throwing around figures of $3000+ to get FTTP connected under the Libs.

    What everyone should be focusing on is, if government owned = cheap internet for everyone. If we have to use copper wires for the last mile, Telstra owns the lines and can charge anything they want and that = expensive internet for everyone. Just look at Telstra's record. The most expensive plans with the smallest data. Do you really want Telstra to have anything to do with our internet. I hate Labor and I wouldn't trust them with my child's lunch money, but I'm voting for them just because I don't want Telstra to high Jack the prices of my internet. Die Telstra, just frigging die.

    For those who don't know yet, Turnbull finally revealed upload speeds under FTTN: 4-6MBit/s.

    Not good enough for my likes, with simultaneous downloading (yes, that uses upload too!!), VPN RDP, and Plex streaming. Yes I do those things all at once quite often, as I go away for work.

      Really, that slow? I get better speeds than that already. I get a constant 8mbps with my ADSL2 connection..

        You get 8 mbps upload? Are you sure?

          Oh wait, I read that as download, sorry about that. I barely get 1mbps upload ha.

    Won't someone please think of the upload speeds!

    To all of you, more then a 5 min read but:

    the homepage: contains possible applications using increased bandwidth

    technology: an overview for those people that dont know the difference between technologies, FTTH vs FTTN and why wireless (at it's current level, not getting into quantum entanglement) cannot possibly work.

    economic: cost between the 2 implementations including estimates on hidden costs for FTTN.

    political: Debunking all the BS claims surrounding FTTN and propaganda.

    Labor NBN (now looking at more like $80B) vs Liberal NBN.... sheesh, we're arguing about a 1st world problem here guys. We could just about solve homelessness for that amount.

    Would I like a faster network? Sure I would.
    Do I really need one?... a big fat NO.

    Anyone basing their choice in the next election entirely on the NBN are selfish and probably still live with mummy. If the ALP get back in you will have faster internet (maybe in 10 years) but too bad you wont be able to afford it since your job has been lost because the economy is in the sh*t.

      I'm of the same opinion, there's more important things to consider than one iteration of a plan. I'd rather pay off the credit cards before maxing out another (analogy for those at home)

    pretty much sums it up...

    I am confused about the Liberals 'NBN'. What does 25 Mbps mean? Mega BITS per second or Mega BYTES per second? Many people currently with ADSL2+ sync at up 24 Mega bits per second. So with fibre to the node, will the connection to our homes still be by ADSL or will it be another technology? Someone please help.

      MBPS is Megabits Per Second
      MBS is Megabytes Per Second

      I know it can be rather confusing at times =/

      From what I gather it will be VDSL which in theory should give you more constant bandwidth to your house unlike current ADSL, with ADSL if you have say 5 people connected and you're all downloading stuff on that one connection you all do not download at 25mbps, but it's split up over those 5 computers, where as VDSL and other similar like cable everyone gets the full bandwidth from what I gather.

      I hope i've helped you to some point, I do apologise if i've confused you further though!

      It means they get 2.5 megabytes per second
      or if we had fttp it would be 10 megabytes per second.
      This was my understanding, someone correct me if it is wrong.

    I have started a petition to strongly urge the coalition government to reconsider their FTTN NBN proposal in favour of a superior FTTH NBN. Please show your support for this issue by signing the petition and leaving any comments/thoughts at the following link:

    Please spread the word, and refer as many of your friends and family as possible. Additionally, feel free to raise further concerns to Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull, and the coalition government by sending them an email or written letter to the addresses below.

    Tony Abbott:
    phone: (02) 6277 4022
    fax: (02) 6277 8562
    address: Parliament House
    Canberra ACT 2600

    Malcolm Turnbull:
    phone: 02 6277 4144
    fax: 02 6277 8445
    address: PO Box 6022, House of Representatives
    Parliament House, Canberra, ACT 2600

    Liberal Party Federal Secretariat:
    phone: 02 6273 2564
    fax: 02 6273 1534
    email: [email protected]
    address: PO Box 6004,
    Kingston ACT 2604

    Thank you for your support.

    I have started a petition to strongly urge the coalition government to reconsider their FTTN NBN proposal in favour of a superior FTTH NBN. Please show your support for this issue by signing the petition and leaving any comments/thoughts at the following link:

    Please spread the word, and refer as many of your friends and family as possible. Additionally, feel free to raise further concerns to Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull, and the coalition government by sending them an email or written letter to the addresses below.

    Tony Abbott:
    phone: (02) 6277 4022
    fax: (02) 6277 8562
    address: Parliament House
    Canberra ACT 2600

    Malcolm Turnbull:
    phone: 02 6277 4144
    fax: 02 6277 8445
    address: PO Box 6022, House of Representatives
    Parliament House, Canberra, ACT 2600

    Liberal Party Federal Secretariat:
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    Please show your support thanks.

    Say goodbye to FTTP because the Libs are in and FTTN is what we're gonna get.

    The major difference is.... Labour actually had a plan...

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