Triple J's Hottest 100 Changes The Date

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"The Hottest 100 wasn't created as an Australia Day celebration. It was created to celebrate your favourite songs of the past year. It should be an event that everyone can enjoy together – for both the musicians whose songs make it in and for everyone listening in Australia and around the world."

That's right my good friends and fellow Australians, it's time to crank A.B. Original's 'January 26' a little louder today - because the triple j Hottest 100 has a new home - the fourth weekend of January.

As the station revealed on ABC news, Saturday 27 January 2018 will be the next date for the countdown, with a repeat on Sunday, too.

There will be new programming for January 26 that includes, among other things, coverage of Yabun Festival - Sydney's Survival day/Invasion Day event put on my the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander community to honour what is, for the Indigenous peoples of Australia, a day of mourning.

So what's with the change?

"triple j is making this move after hearing directly from you," reads the statement. "Heaps of you took part in our online survey as part of our review of the date of the Hottest 100. You told us how much you love the countdown and most of you are up for a new day."

"We all agreed that the Hottest 100 should't be part of a debate about the day it's on. The only debate should be about the songs ('Ya joking shoulda been higher')."

The first Hottest 100 was held on 5 March, 1989. It wasn't reguarly held on January 26 until 1998.

"The date of the countdown has moved around and though the Hottest 100 has mostly been held on Australia Day, it's not about Australia Day," triple j pointed out.

The date change occurred following a huge survey of listeners, which almost 65,000 people responded to. The majority were keen for a date change. triple j also consulted with "musicians, community leaders, representative groups, triple j staff, ABC groups, and a wide range of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander media, language groups, and many of the Indigenous artists featured on triple j".

"There were a lot of different perspectives about 26 January, and different ways to approach Australia Day. But when it came to the Hottest 100, it was clear most people want the Hottest 100 to be on its own day when everyone can celebrate together."

Voting for the 2018 Hottest 100 countdown opens Tuesday 12 December.

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This is a story about a radio station moving a countdown to a more inclusive day. Not an excuse to drag up your thinly veiled racism. I shouldn't have to read the kind of filth that has been directed towards my family and community - in my workplace, of all places. Be kind, people. It costs nothing. - Rae

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    Rae, I would love your unfiltered opinion in this change - for me, they're almost guaranteed to lose listener numbers, purely because most people have barbecues and listen to the Hottest 100 in that manner - a sort of "joint" celebration of the day. I, as a white male, flat out don't have the perspective others do on this issue - do you see this as progressive and good, or would you prefer the campaign continue to move the DATE of Australia Day (and presumably, keep the Hottest 100 on that day). I know I'm conflating issues, but I guess I'm getting at - is this a helpful move, or are they just going to move it back in 2019 because listener numbers dropped off?

      If you have a poll and people want change but you stop them then aren't you anti democracy?

      Without even getting into the politics of shifting Australia Day, having the Hottest 100 on a Saturday where I'm guaranteed to have the next day off every year suits me a lot better for BBQ/listening party purposes.

      As for next year, the fourth weekend in January puts it on Australia Day anyway, so they kind of have their bases covered.

    I know Australia Day is really convenient for the Hottest 100 (BBQs, a day off and all that), but I guess it's a good thing to just completely separate yourself from the debate about the meaning of the day that has cropped up in recent years.

    The two best things about Australia Day - listening to the Hottest 100 countdown with your mates while enjoying a day off - or the Big Day Out.

    So........ Now I have to carefully curate my mates to avoid listening to some austereo syndicated commercial radio all day....

    I find the terms "Survival day" and "Invasion Day" grossly inappropriate and that there is a festival to mark the day(s) makes it offensively so.

      Why?

        Because there was no invasion.

        The ignorant politically correct need a history lesson.
        Europe during the 1930’s and 40’s should be sufficient.

          How was there no invasion?

            I guess it's as simple as to the victor go the spoils. How many invasions have there been over the centuries as civilisation has moved/expanded/contracted territories? Should we be having days of mourning for every invastion that happened over every territory in Europe as borders changed?
            We can't use today's views on something that was considered normal 200+ years ago. Unfortunately for them, the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander were the losers in the "invasion", the British were the winners, and so we get to set the rules, and mark our holidays accordingly.
            200+ years on, we're simply all Australians, regardless of our family heritage.

            Last edited 27/11/17 9:29 pm

              There are many things that were common practice 200+ years ago that are not kind, helpful, clever, well-reasoned, respectful or good. That doesn't mean they should be accepted or glossed over. There are many places in the world which still experience difficulties because of the ways they were colonised/invaded, or how people shifted.

              The point is that it's about using today's views on today's issues - such as having a radio countdown that is meant to be a celebration of music Australian's love on a day that a significant portion of the population is incredibly hurt by. It's about using the compassion we have today because of the position we're lucky enough to find ourselves in to do small things to right wrongs, instead of doubling down and saying those wrongs don't matter.

              It doesn't hurt to change the date, but it does hurt to keep it.

            I guess you missed history.

            My hint about Europe is a good starting place, if you want to discover what an invasion looks like.

            But that’s not politically correct, so let’s pretend there was one.

            Last edited 27/11/17 10:00 pm

              You didn't answer my question. How was there no invasion?

                I'm waiting for the "European settlers didn't murder, let alone massacre, any Aboriginal Australians and in fact treated them extremely civilly".

                Instead of pretending superiority (yours is not a genuine question or you would not have repeated it) by suggesting an alternative view to your own has no validity, how about stepping up and explaining why you think there was an invasion?

                  There was an invasion because there were people here for at least 65,000 years, and then they were invaded. I don't see why that's so controversial to say, it's a fact.

                  I'm always genuinely curious as to why people will have, as you call it, an "alternative view". It's why we have articles on Gizmodo about Flat Earthers.

                  I'm replying to my own post as, for some reason, I could not reply to yours. Firstly, I think the g"genuinely curious" line is disingenuous, at best. Both the fact that you asked the same question twice and the fact that you repeated it in another manner were evidence of your lack of curiosity and instead preponderance of combativeness.

                  Second, your explanation is circular. It was an invasion because people were invaded? Really? You can do better than that.

                  Nice hidden ad hominem there, with the "flat earthers" comment. Happy to engage in a "mine's bigger than yours" discussion on the philosophy and history of science.

                  invade
                  ɪnˈveɪd/Submit
                  verb
                  (of an armed force) enter (a country or region) so as to subjugate or occupy it.
                  "during the Second World War the island was invaded by the Axis powers"
                  synonyms: occupy, conquer, capture, seize, take (over), annex, win, gain, secure; More
                  enter (a place, situation, or sphere of activity) in large numbers, especially with intrusive effect.
                  "demonstrators invaded the Presidential Palace"
                  synonyms: permeate, pervade, fill, spread through/over, diffuse through, imbue, perfuse, be disseminated through, flow through; More
                  (of a parasite or disease) spread into (an organism or bodily part).
                  "sometimes the worms invade the central nervous system"

                  @silkwood "Do better" with what?

                  I was asking someone why they believed there wasn't an invasion. There are many reasons why people think this, and I wanted to know @ijameson's.

                  You asked me why I believed there was an invasion. I told you why. It's a pretty simple fact, akin to "I drank a coffee this morning". I don't know what other details you need? Or are you expecting me to be Google for you?

                  I'm not interested in a "mines bigger than yours" discussion. We are talking about someone taking offence to the terms "Survival Day" and "Invasion Day" and I'm wanting to know why it has upset them so much. That's it.

                  @raejohnston invasion means different things to different people.

                  And with this, it raises some very primal emotions for both sides of the argument. As you probably have seen.

                  When people say "it was an invasion" they present it as genocide, and a deliberate act of war. The position has been sensationalised to the point that its presented as an absolute, and plenty of others just don't see it anywhere near that.

                  @grunt yes, as you say - when people say "it was an invasion" they present it as genocide, and a deliberate act of war.

                  What I'm wondering is why people don't see it that way. Is it the fault of our education system that people don't recognise what actually happened? It just indicates to me how much further we have to go. And that's something I'm passionate about helping with.

                  You can do better than a circular argument... "it was an invasion because they invaded". Really? As mentioned, there are numerous variations on what exactly occurred. The records clearly show the establishment of the colony (not Australia at that time) was to be done in conjunction with treating "with the natives" fairly. From the mindset of the day it certainly wasn't an invasion. Do we judge that on today's mores and understandings? That is a question which does not have a definitive answer, so your "it's a fact" is quite inappropriate. Typical of narrow thinking and presumption of superior knowledge (which is clearly not present). Not quite the same as having coffee this morning. Think it through.

                  There are many perspectives (some of them ridiculous) in these comments sections, but, as a journalist I believe you have a responsibility to respond to them in a reasoned, not emotive manner, and from a broader understanding, or at least an attempt to be more open than closed minded.

                  Your "flat earth comment and your reference to "fault of our education system" are both non too subtle efforts at derogatory comment.

                  I could suggest your lack of reasoned argument, coming from someone who ostensibly has been trained in language, is further proof of the deterioration of our education system. But that would be unfair, eh?

                The first fleet were settlers they weren't bearing an armada of ships and infantry to kill they were under the assumption there was nobody living in Australia and were looking to key word "settle".

                  They "settled" an "uninhabited" land. They considered the native people to be less than human and treated them accordingly. The place was officially known as Terra Nullius for a long time. They literally called it "The Land That Belongs to Nobody".

                  Last edited 30/11/17 9:09 am

            Australia Day on January 26 is not just a day of national pride, bbqs and ceremonies, it's the day modern Australia was founded as a country.

            We are a united and inclusive community, attempting to change dates to appease a minority in the community is divisive as this goes against our history, who we are today.

            Australia Day will continue to be a respectful and inclusive day, we will continue to respect the various views held by others of the Day.

            January 26 as Australia Day, marks the historical day of Captain Arthur Phillip’s landing in Botany Bay in 1788. In fact, the Gweagal tribe should be recognised as the welcoming party for Captain Arthur Phillip and the First Fleet, as that is part of our collective history.

            There was no invasion on this date.

            Last edited 29/11/17 3:28 pm

          Not really politically correct as much as, you know, correct. There were people who were forcibly dispossessed of their land. By shooting, and killing, at times-there's quite a bit of evidence about that. That's the definition of invasion.

          Don't know what you mean by the Europe comment. WW2 certainly also featured invasions.

            Actually what happened was colonisation, not invasion. Invasion implies there was some sort of geopolitical entity that was subject to a large scale assault on their held territory. The Nazi invasion of most of Europe and the subsequent campaign to take it back are invasions. Alexander the Great's campaign across much of the middle east was a series of invasions. Settlement of land that you do not recognise as being held by a recognised nation isn't invasion.

            Colonisation can be much more insidious and involves civilians as well as governments and military entities. It doesn't in any way change what happened, but it was hardly an "invasion". It's an attempt to provoke an emotional response. The irony is that in many ways, colonisation is worse.

              Settlement of land that you do not recognise as being held by a recognised nation isn't invasion.

              Wait, so if Hitler had just issued a declaration that there were no people in Poland it all would've been totally fine?

                No, because Poland as a geopolitical entity was widely recognised by other nations as existing. The same cannot be said of the indigenous Australian population - especially given the mindset of the time.

                  Just because it wasn't viewed as an invasion at the time does not mean that it wasn't an invasion just that the people at the time were horribly, horribly wrong. Yes, the Aboriginal people didn't create a single state, but the various peoples had their own agreed-upon territories that they lived in and protected. I don't see a distinction between colonization and invasion when people are already living in the location being colonized.

    This is awesome news!

    I 100% support TJ on this one, too many flag wavers acting like they love Australia while they actually hate anyone who doesn't look like them.

    On the other hand
    I stopped listening to triple J because it started sounding like commercial radio stations with all the internal advertising and way too much talk vs music.

    But yes awesome decision, finally an inclusive event shared by all.

    Politically correct garbage.

    Much like the music they play.

    I've never heard anything as un-Australian as playing only Australian music on Australia Day. WTF is this bullhickery!?! El Capitan Cook would be disgusted that a music countdown that he introduced to this country - a country, mind you, that didn't even exist until he found it - is being shifted to another day.

    The hottest 100 never was about the REASON for Australia Day, so why change it? By changing it, they're actually acknowledging that the day selected wasn't just because everyone had the day off, but rather a reason behind it.

    So dumb.

    Now they play only Australian music on australia day, still celebrating the date.

    They haven't done anything except appease the always offended sjw snow flakes. 60% of voters in this poll, approx equal to 5% of the hottest 100 listeners.

    Ditch ABC already please. I'm sick of tax payers funding this garbage.

      Why is that the people who are most likely to have a cry and be over-sensitive about these types of issues are the ones who accuse others of being "sjw snow flakes"?

      Hey Chicken Little, the sky isn't falling, and you can still sink tinnies on "Australia Day" if you want. It's a big world out there...

    It boggles my mind as to why a small section of society flies into a hissy fit at the smallest acknowledgement of the atrocities that occured to Aboriginal Australians. What is the agenda here?

    You dont see germans trying to pull the same stunt.

    What is the problem with acknowledging the original owners of our great lands and the terrible things that happened to them?

      Where has anyone "thrown a hissy fit" about acknowledging atrocities that ""occured to"(sic) Aboriginal Australians?

        Try reading any Andrew bolt column regarding aboriginals. Or just look at the reactions from the fringe far right pollies to this change. Matt canavan for example

      I think most people are happy to acknowledge It, but then take it as being they're getting punished for other people's actions. With such a large immigrant population you can't really even say it was their ancestors that played a role.
      Some of us received our citizenship on that day, are we no longer able to celebrate that?

      Although the first fleet arrived on the 26th the formal proclamation of the land didn't occur until February 7, maybe that could be a suitable day for a day of morning as that's when the British took as they saw formal control.

        Except it's not about blame. It's about acknowledgement. Acknowledging that it occured. The small section I'm talking about seem to want to pretend that it never happened. Akin to those who deny the Holocaust.

          It would appear yes most people acknowledge it happened. But how does changing the day or renaming it further the cause? There are people that do acknowledge and are sympathetic to what happened but don't want the day modified.
          Changing it won't make the denyiers any more sympathetic, if anything it would make them dig their heals in more.

            Because australia day is no longer about australia. Its an excuse for morons with the IQ of a peanut to drape themselves in the Australian flag and abuse minorities.

            Australia day lost its identity once it was hijacked to instill bigotry and intolerance.

            Australia day should be about celebrating everyone. That includes acknowledging the original owners and the terrible things that happened to them. What is wrong with that?

            I mean look at germany. They dont pretend WW2 didnt happen and they have memorials to the people killed everywhere. Thats how we should be ackowledging Aboriginals. Not acting like some above who think treating the original owners is Political correctness or prentending that no aboriginals were killed at all by Europeans.

              Talk about tarring everyone with the same brush, some of us actually celebrate this day because it's when we officially became a part of this nation (the largest citizenship ceremonies are on Australia day). Guess im bigoted and intolerant, do i also need to go back to where i came from?

              I don't know what social circles you revolve in but besides internet trolls I don't think I've ever met any one that denyes aboriginals were killed or their land was taken.

              I personally celebrate with friends the fact we are a part of this great nation, with people from all different parts of the globe and born and breds. And not for a second do we not believe that more needs to be done in reconciliation for past wrongs, that's part of being a good citizen striving to improve your county.

              I'll leave you with your prejudice views.

              Move to germany djbear. Enjoy it while it still exists.

                Id love to move to germany. Unlike you i have friends who live there who say the country is nothing like the lies you make up.

                Stick to reality masterc82.

    Your patience in this thread is absolutely commendable Rae, as are your efforts in bringing the issues surrounding Australia day to the public attention.
    Without people like you, using the platform afforded to you to bring these issues to light, they wouldn't be getting the public attention they deserve.

    Keep being amazing.

      Hardly commendable, she has a habit of kicking the hornets nest. Atleast this time she didnt shut down comments cause she didnt like the reply's.

      mrgnarchr your amount of Virtue signalling and back patting towards Rae makes me ill. Australia was colonised not invaded and the quicker we come together as one people and one nation the better. Changing the day only widens the divide people have towards this subject. there are real issues that indigenous people are dealing with an Australia day is not one of them. I live in an area that has a large number of indigenous people that are homeless or have major substance abuse and domestic violence. kids are dying in parks sniffing petrol. these are the real issues Indigenous people face. its disgusting you both think that changing the date is going the help fix any indigenous issues. the only thing it does if make selfish people like your self get a good night sleep because you think your somehow helping?

        You don't know me, neo - my family or my community. You don't know what I'm doing in regards to a multitude of Indigenous issues. You can care about more than one thing. This thing? It's a simple one. The others you mentioned are more complex. But don't for a second assume that because I'm talking about one issue, a simple one, I'm not doing anything about the other more difficult ones.

          pfffffffft the assumption that writing an article about a date change of a radio countdown somehow means you're not directing your efforts anywhere else? Extra hilarious when you consider Rae writes like 20 articles a day :P

          I'm sorry that you had to say You don't know me, neo

        You have to start somewhere. Changing the date although rather divisive is a simple step. The others you are talking about are major cultural changes, they generally take generations to fix.

        Does the distinction between colonisation and invasion really have much bearing on the discussion?

    Won't be listening to JJJ hottest 100 anymore. Not for any other reason than I, like thousands of people who would normally listen have Cricket on Saturday arvos.

    You need a country to invade. I think it's insulting calling it invasion day. My relatives didn't invade anyone, they migrated here after a real invasion. Why should all the immigrants in this country be labelled as invaders? This is nothing more than PC bullcrap. The aboriginals should be thankful that it was the British that settled this country, because if it was anyone else they would have been wiped off the face of the earth and would only be a page in a history book. We need to stop looking back at things we can't change and start moving forward together.

      There were over 400 nations here. Don't take it so personally - it was the people in power who did the invading, not those who came with them.

      #blessed when people roll up to your doorstep, massacre your people, bring disease and ruin the biodiversity, implement a less sustainable way of life, treat you like a subhuman, try to breed you out of existence or at least take the light-skinned of you and assimilate you into another culture just cause it's more comfortable for them.

      Ever so thankful.

      You realise that the French had a great relationship with aboriginals, yeah? Much, much better than the British ever did. Check your facts before posting!

        You have a very very skew idea of how the French treated the local populations they invaded. For example: the French polynesia. Go ask the locals what they really think and what happened to them.

        Check your facts before posting.

          This story is about Australia, not French Polynesia. Maybe if the French did invade/colonise/settle the end result would have been the same (or worse), but as for how it happened the French had a very good documented relationship with Australian aboriginals. My facts are sound.

    Yessss such good news! And great job on handling the slew of nonsense in this comments section

    This announcement doesn't affect me at all but does prove that Triple JJJ are an understanding and progressive organisation.

    Great coverage Rae <3

    Changing the date doesn't mean anything to me, but I know it'll mean a lot to others!

    By moving the date to separate itself from political debate sounds kind of political in itself.
    I don't support the move at all, the countdown goes hand in hand with Australia Day and has for a long time. I bet after this news if they did another poll the results would be a lot different. Will be interesting to see how many people even bother voting this year.

    Just don't vote or listen, I won't be. Like you all say "it shouldn't be a debate about the date", but it WAS because you have a survey and then changed the date.

    I hear Spotify is going to have "premium free for a day" on Australia day.

    Few things to think about:
    People have been taking land of others for millennia, essentially conflict due to resources or preservation of ideologies.
    Time heals wounds as long as those wounds are not reinforced by either the oppressor or subjugator.
    Acknowledgement that wrongs had been done can help the healing process but if the subjugated integrate the wrongs into a core identity then a victim mentality can arise.
    Empowering the disadvantaged is a two way street and requires a hand up as well as self determination (and the freedom to persuit self determination).
    So what to do about Oz day:
    Keep the day as Oz day and do nothing about colonisation/invasion issue
    Change the date for Oz day and acknowledge the issue for that date
    Integrate both on the same day

    I like the last, it notes the past and looks to the future. Encourages unity and if done correctly minimises the possibility of victim mentality creation.

    It's funny to read the people playing semantics vs people who literally had no exposure to a system which was being enforced on them?.."Of course I'm not invading you, you haven't declared yourself as an independant state...where are your application forms written in 7 Europeans languages that you have never seen? This is clear proof that you don't have any entitlement to this land because you're not following our well established system you only just found out about."
    I can't wait for aliens to come and pull the same bullshit on us, and watch everyone have a massive teary. "Didn't you know the Intergalactic Space Council needs to receive the Z1-9000 forms with 9 million years notice in order to register yourself as a planet? You didn't? well jeez that's a real shame for everyone living here..Let the colonisation begin!"

      Yes, its an interesting reference, going outside our little ball of rock and looking in from space. How we squabble like children over tiny patches of ground, and who has right to them, when all the while we are nothing more than earthlings, all of us the same. Please, don't let that be a testament to a negligence, that we must live here together and living together takes a lot of effort, but reading that, kind've made me sad, that we still have so far to go, and that all people on this planet could do with some perspective at times, to look at the earth from outside and see it as one home, not many. Cue Carl Sagans...The Pale Blue Dot...
      ..on it, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever lived, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines...

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