Exclusive: The Australian Raid On SuperDaE And How A Prank Over The Next Xbox Ended In Corporate Espionage

"They want to ruin my life. I know it." The man behind these words is none other than the infamous SuperDaE: a man of many names, aliases and occupations. This week he was raided by Western Australian Police and the Federal Bureau of Investigation in connection with a corporate espionage investigation. His alleged transgression? Disseminating highly secret information about the next Xbox, and the attempted sale of a Durango development kit. SuperDaE, aka Dan Henry now sits alone in his Perth home wondering what will happen next, but you won't believe the story that led to this point.

Dan Henry -- which isn't actually his real name either -- somehow got hold of information relating to the next Xbox, as well as a Durango development kit some months ago. As a prank, he tried to sell the device on eBay to generate a bit of publicity and share the information with the world. Meanwhile, as more information came to light, Henry shared it with gaming sites like our sister-site Kotaku. As a fan of Microsoft and the Xbox, he wanted to spread the word and get people pumped for what to expect in the next-generation of consoles.

His own special brand of evangelism backfired on Tuesday, however, when it culminated in his door almost being rammed in by Western Australian Police accompanied by an agent from the FBI. It was a raid, and they took everything.

To understand this bizarre story, we need to go back a few months.


After leaking precious Durango information to the press, Henry felt pretty good about the message he helped spread. He wasn't taking any financial benefits from the information he was handing on, rather his payment came in the form of infamy for his handle: SuperDaE. Days after the leak, Henry was paid a visit by a man by the name of Miles Hawkes.

Hawkes is a serious character. Very serious.

He spent five years as an officer with the Los Angeles Police Department, before moving up in the world to spend the next 15 years as a Detective with the Seattle Police Department's Arson and Bomb Squad. From there, Hawkes moved into the private sector, spending two years as an executive security consultant with Vulcan Incorporated -- an umbrella company that Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen established to handles Microsoft's various investments and holdings. It was a hands-on role, with Hawkes' responsibilities including developing and executing security strategies for Microsoft executives while abroad and developing "crisis management plans" for when everything went sideways.

Hawkes then moved into Microsoft itself for six years with the Anti-Piracy and Confidential Information Management team, and for the last two months, he has held a position as the Senior Project Manager in Microsoft's IP Crime Team.

It doesn't get more hands-on than Miles Hawkes.

Hawkes knocked on Henry's door about a month ago and wanted to talk. The only topic of conversation? Durango.

Henry said that after an in-depth conversation between himself, Hawkes and a private investigator Microsoft allegedly used to track down SuperDaE, about the nature of the leaker's knowledge. According to Henry, they wanted to know how deep his knowledge went.

According to Henry's account of the conversation between the three, negotiations broke down quickly.

"I gave them quite a bit of information," Henry tells me. He's talking to me using an iPad he's borrowed from a neighbour and SIM card the FBI didn't seize during the raid.

"They weren't happy with what I gave them, though. They wanted lots of information about the system I had, right down to how I get the information that I leak out. I said that we could have fixed it all together. I was prepared to fly back with them to Redmond to assist in their investigation. Basically they just wanted information so I could do their job for them," he said. "'Fuck you', I said to them, 'I'm not doing your job for you'".

The pair reportedly left after that, trading only the occasional email with Henry after the fact.

"I didn't have any respect for Microsoft after that," Henry tells me, deflated. "I support Microsoft and Durango, but now I know they're just a corporation trying to fuck a guy's life over," he adds.


Flash-forward to one week after the emails stopped and Henry awoke one morning to a loud bashing on his front door. Dazed, confused and dressed only in his underwear, Henry stumbled to the door to find nine officers of various law enforcement agencies there to meet him, armed with a battering ram and a search warrant.

The warrant was for the search of his premises and the seizure of any and all "computer materials", but first, Henry was instructed to don clothes so he could be searched with his decency in tact.

"They then went to the living room, and they took everything."

"Around ten servers are gone, hard drives from over a decade ago right up to today, they picked up everything. My Retina MacBook Pro is gone, too. I'm only talking to you from a borrowed iPad and a SIM card they didn't find."

The FBI agent and the eight officers from the Western Australian Police Service left, boxes under arm, full of SuperDaE's life.


"They even took my cards, along with a shitload of papers and documents I had printed regarding various 'activities' I had been up to over the years," he said.

They took everything, except the Durango development kit they presumably came for. That is safely squirrelled away somewhere in the United States.

Update: Gizmodo has since revised the location of the Durango. SuperMTW has reached out to us and said he doesn't have the developer console at the centre of the scandal.

All of this hit home when Henry had to tell his girlfriend about his predicament. She broke down in tears in front of him repeating quietly: "I'm never going to see you again, am I?"


What happens next in the case is completely at the discretion of the investigating officers. The presence of an FBI agent, however raises questions, ones that Henry says he has answers to.

"The FBI agent told me they're trying to seek a loophole to extradite me. They can't extradite me straight up but they're looking for those loopholes to do it," Henry says. A trial to extradite him would turn him into the Kim Dotcom of the gaming world. Already he's trying to get up a Twitter campaign he's calling #freesuperdae.

The charge he's looking at -- if Microsoft, eBay and PayPal who are at the centre of the dispute decide to press charges -- is corporate espionage and dissemination of confidential documents as well as misuse of a computer and/or carrier service. All fairly serious charges that, when added up, can come down to some pretty serious jail time either here or in the US.

Henry is currently considering his legal options, but has vowed to fight whatever charges come his way.

Should he be worried? Probably, and not just because of his Durango shenanigans.


"On my one computer alone, there are things that date back to years ago that can incriminate me in other cases," Henry says, defeatedly.

By his own admission, he intentionally breached several other gaming companies looking for information. Valve was one of the companies he admittedly breached.

"There's an FBI investigation into Valve from a year or two ago. They had their systems compromised by none other than SuperDaE," he admits to us. Valve are looking to get their own back against SuperDaE now that he's in a vulnerable spot, as are Epic Games, Blizzard and Sony, who also claim to have fallen victim to SuperDaE.

For those transgressions, he probably should be worried.

Right now, SuperDaE, also known as Dan Henry -- real name Dylan -- is in legal limbo. He has no money, no cards, no tech, no idea what will happen next. All he can do is pray to the video game gods to show mercy.

"They want to ruin me," he repeats at the end of our interview.

"Microsoft could have had Durango back if they were nice about it."



    I don't know whether to feel sorry for this guy or not. If he's worried about other incriminating stuff, well, breaking the law is breaking the law. Did the guy not think at any point "this could seriously f*ck my life up"?

    There are many ways to get your point across - in whatever industry the point needs to be made - and it seems the way he did it was the wrong one.

      Exactly. Confidentiality isn't a joke, especially from a company as big as Microsoft, and especially when it's hardware. If he had leaked images, he'd be fine. But he tried to sell it. If it was a joke, why did he put it on eBay?

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        So he got caught red handed and he's going to get busted for previous breaches too - no sympathy from me. What we're seeing here is a possible hacker getting his just rewards for screwing around, now he's crying out for help because shit just got serious for him. Enjoy, have a SuperDaE!

          Agreed. Corporate espionage is very big business and SuperDaE is now seeing results of his interaction with big business . I guess he does not like what he sees. I am sure there are people who will say he is being screwed by "the man" but by the sounds of this, he was doing it for personal gain - monetary or otherwise.

            what a joke. sounds like this Hawkes guy is a jack ass. extradite to the us? really? hey, how about a Drone strike? would you like that? Hey maybe the W.A police can go raid a school next, I heard kids trade in "pirate" games! don't worry about the uncaught serial killer in Claremont! W.A police are to busy helping a foreign company's game toy.

            I know you guys think corporations are people to. So, if HSBC gets caught money lauding for the Mexican drug cartels and they get a fine. Why shouldn't he just get a fine to? or should we close down the bank and lock up the CEO?

              couldnt agree with you more jjason, these cats make billions granted this guy would not be the first or the last guy to do something like this however with that being said it just goes to show that the billions dont stop flowing not for one guy or anyone else who has done something like this or similar.. the only wrong this he has done is hold consoles in such high regards.. everyone knows they are 10 years behind in tech and their games are so scripted a blind man could play them.

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                hey thanks man.

      I'd say feel sorry for him. Sure he committed crimes (seems he's basically admitted that in the interview) but unless that's a very old or fake picture at the top he's young. He probably saw what he was doing as mischievous pranks rather than 'corporate espionage' that doesn't make it ok but generally when people get caught for youthful pranks with little ill intent they get a slap on the wrist, some community service, I guess at absolute worst a couple of months in minimum security (even then on a first offence it would have to be some serious mischief)

      This kid has had the wrath of god fall on his head and that part about extradition is true, well disproportionate response doesn't do this situation any justice.

      So yeah I feel sorry for him, seems obvious he committed some crimes but they sound quite minor on a criminal level (some major civil issues granted) but he's not being treated as a kid who did some mischief he has a international investigation backed by multi-billion dollar companies looming over his head puckered up ready to unleash a shit-storm of truly epic proportions.

        I'd say don't feel sorry.

        He's either in possession of stolen goods (ie, the durango dev kit) or he got it legit and signed NDA's.

        Either case is serious in the business world.

          I'm not saying he's innocent or shouldn't be getting away free, I'm more saying proportional response. There's just certain aspects about this that seem like huge overkill, I guess I worry when the legal response to crimes like this are on the level of violent crimes sometimes worse :/

          When the news of Durango being auctioned hit I figured it was only time till someone got charged/arrested but there's a difference between a simple arrest and being raided by 8 cops plus an federal officer from another country :/

          Now if it turns out he had weapons or they had reason to believe he had weapons or something like that I'll happily retract everything I said but that doesn't really sound to be the case

        He was 16 when this all happened, and he is 17 right now, and people are coming down hard on someone who is essentially just a kid.

        But you know, whatever, lock him up forever because he did this, fuck up his entire life, because JUSTICE.

      I have no sympathy for the guy.

        I do

          I don't. Pretty straight forward stuff. What he did was illegal.

            And he knew it was illegal. His 'it was a joke' defence is nonsense.

              Seriously, who does this hurt? Who does it affect? At worst it gt people hyped for the next Xbox.
              If he gets jail time for this, then the system is seriously fucked

                You don't think leaking trade secrets to the press affects anybody?

                  yes. tech web sites get a massive spike in traffic and profits go up. I remember reading about the ebay xbox when it went up for sale, right here on gizmodo.

            We all break the law at some stage often people break the law daily without even knowing.

            Yeah, anyone who breaks the law should be arrested and jailed or executed. Who cares if they actually hurt anyone or caused any harm, how dare they question the benevolent powers that rule the country.

          As a self-confessed criminal yourself, @wsdk_ii, I'm not at all surprised that you feel sympathy for this guy.

          (I'm referring to your proud admission to always stealing items from Coles and Woolworths in the comments of this article from a few days ago).

          Last edited 22/02/13 1:28 pm

            A little bit of context sure goes a long way.

              It sure does.

              Sure as hell Bill Gates never committed a crime - no way! I could bet you he never stole a little bit of IP! *cough*
              For sure, all the corrupt gangsters that run some of these corporations never got the social equivalent of the death sentence...

              Taste the sarcasm.

              The penal system is flawed, and this is the perfect example of such. I pray you never feel the blunt irony of it.

              Yeah - he committed a crime, no need to metaphorically kill the guy.

          @wsdk_ii Based on you admitting to be a thief in other responses on Allure Media, your sympathetic opinion is expected and therefore is null!

          Last edited 24/02/13 10:32 pm

    This guy is an idiot. First of all why the f**k would he try to sell the dev kit even if he wasn't serious, just post pics and info. And then I read what he did to the other gaming studios. He clearly deserves jail time.

    If he actually has the Durango dev kit why didn't the cops take it? That's what I don't get.

      I personally think that it is because his friend does have it, and they do not have the warrant. In addition, they know it was in his possession so they do not have to re-claim it. Microsoft probably are never expecting it to come back to them either so it's a waste of space.

      On the case I have no sympathy. It's pretty obvious he's getting information from these companies through improper means and he wants to cover his trail of how he physically got the kit. They wanted him to assist in patching up a serious leak (it would be much quicker to get information to a trusted source than risk being put on a goose chase) and he refused, so here comes the consequence. If he's scared of previous misdemeanors then that's unrelated to this case and tough luck. It's not like that if you do any other serious crime that any others they have against you will not be resolved. They're just doing their jobs.

      The Durango Dev kit hardware is not significant, all of the next gen consoles are custom made PCs running propriery software.
      Software can be copied and the dev kit can be rebuilt by anyone with the software.
      If someone released the software and hardware details onto the internets it would mean that everyone could use it if they wanted.

    They want to ruin you? You ruined yourself by doing illegal things.

      Smoking Marijuana is illegal, do you think people should have their life ruined over it?

      The US is known for being total assholes about these kinds of things.


        Well if you smoke a shitload of it over your entire life you ruin it yourself anyway.

        Sorry but if you do something illegal and know it is, "they" are not wanting to ruin you.

        To quote a great Jim Carrey movie Liar Liar; "Stop breaking the law, asshole!"

        You waste your time arguing with an American, they have been brainwashed since birth to believe anything Uncle Sam says unconditionally. America isn't so much a nation as it is a cult. They lack the ability for critical thinking and common sense reasoning.

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        Smoking marijuana really only affects you. Industrial espionage... it can cost jobs and investments.

        Marijuana has ruined the lives of several of my friends, it doesn't need help from the police or anyone else.

          I agree that he committed a crime and should have repercussions however I just want people to think about whether america has the right to take any of our citizens they want back to their country to face their laws.

          The thing is that often they like to make examples of these people by Bankrupting and jailing them for longer than a murderer.

          People shouldn't just say "He deserves whatever he gets" as that could be way out of whack.

          IP rights in America is similar to burning a Koran in Iran.

            "IP rights in America is similar to burning a Koran in Iran."

            Even if this were true, that would just be all the more reason not to break those laws, wouldn't you think? Our IP laws are equally as strong, for the record, but even if they weren't it'd be like the drug-running cases in Thailand - you know the laws are strong there and the punishment is severe, if you still go ahead and do it, particularly because you're under some misguided belief that the punishment doesn't fit the crime so you'll 'fight the system' (or some other agitator nonsense), then you do deserve 'what you get'. People don't get to apply their personal sense of proportional justice when they commit crimes against other people.

            How anyone thinks you should get jail time for this is beyond me, jail should be something for dangerous people and dangerous people only.

          You sound like a religious 15 year old child wanting to save the world but not really knowing what happens in the world.

        If I was to steal your marijuana, you might realise there is a difference between whether your crime affects only yourself, or others.

          In the eyes of the law there is no difference between whether a crime affects only yourself, or others

            In my eyes, there is. This is not an uncommon opinion.

      Yes, let's all just blindly follow the letter of the law with no thinking whatsoever! That couldn't possibly go wrong at all. Like in Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia. The price of our freedom is eternal vigilance, unjust laws erode that freedom. And people who will blindly follow any law that the state happens to pass are just downright dangerous.

    Reading this made me think this guy would have electro-magnets hooked up to a door switch for something like this.

    But really if he had incriminating evidence, and had a pretty good idea on how a computer works, why wouldn't he have anything and everything encrypted?

      Especially after being visited by Microsoft previously.

        Let's see - I've just been visited by some uber-serious Microsoft dudes.
        They left, extremely peeved.
        I have to ASSUME they saw the OVER TEN SERVERS in the house.
        My assumption? It's time to backup, move the backups to [remote] secure storage, and sanitize EVERYTHING.

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      and admitting the crime you are going to fight in the media before the charges have even been laid.... It's up there.

    I guess that's why you don't play with fire.

    When things start to escalate he suddenly feels like a victim? These multi-billion dollar companies don't give people slaps on the wrist, I hope he is prepared for what's about to happen.

    This Miles Hawkes guy sounds like a interesting character though, almost fictional.

      Very much indeed i imagined a sort of shadowy figure with a scar on his left eye from previous assignments

        I imagined him as Mr Bookman, The Library Detective, from Seinfeld.

        He still has that splinter stuck in his finger to remind him of the great playstation chip installers raid of 2000.

      Im pretty sure he is the nice super mutant in Fallout 3?

    I dont understand this part:
    I said that we could have fixed it all together. I was prepared to fly back with them to Redmond to assist in their investigation. Basically they just wanted information so I could do their job for them,” he said. “‘Fuck you’, I said to them, ‘I’m not doing your job for you’”./q>

    If he was prepared to fly to Redmond to help them, why not help them without flying to Redmond? Not that I'm sure that could have avoided any of this.

      I'm surprised he didn't agree the FBI agent did say they were exploring the options of extraditing him, why not just arrest him in Redmond.

    Why on earth did he just fess up to hacking Valve?

      My thought exactly... Is this guy absolutely stupid?

      The police would normally only have the power to investigate the Durango incident, now he's going to be investigated for everything.

      He needs a lawyer, fast!

    So the FBI want to extradite him for a crime(s) he committed in the US. Wait, he was in Australia at the time. So MS can sell software that robs us all of 100 of hours of productivity - through bugs in Windows, security holes... hence the need to release service packs - but if someone gets hold of an SDK (because MS security isn't good enough) that someone deserves to go to jail for 20 years.

      You sir, are an idiot. Fail troll is fail.

        You are totally ignorant for believing that MS should be able to do whatever it wants to Australian citizens.

          You're incapable of cohesive thought if you think you can get away with a crime just because the victim is overseas.

            Why don't you and quantex just admit that you work for MS and be done with it.

            With worldwide problems of narcotics, human trafficking, gun running, terrorism you think chasing around the world for a kid that has an SDK desperately important.

              You're creating a false dichotomy. 'Police' isn't some singular monolithic entity that can only do one thing at once and that needs to choose between chasing a drug runner or chasing a thief. Different police specialise in different crimes, which lets them chase both at the same time.

              By your logic, the guy who just raped a woman and the guy who just did an armed bank robbery and stole a few million in cash shouldn't be arrested, because murders are happening around the world and obviously those are more important to chase after. Your logic is faulty.

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              Yes, that must be it. People disagree with your opinion, therefore they must be Microsoft employees. There's no other way that anyone could form an opinion that opposes yours unless they're paid.

              In all seriousness though, think about it Avro. You put a decade and literal hundreds of millions of dollars into developing a brand, a product, and a service. Now someone somehow has the next stage of that product/service and wants to disseminate information about it pre-release, and even sell a working pre-release version of it to anyone. That is corporate espionage. You seem to think that because you're not a victim of the crime, and the victim of the crime is one of the world's largest corporations, that this crime should be ignored. I get that you're probably 14, but that's not how it works in the world. Crime is a request for punishment, no matter where it happens. This SuperDaE sounds like a very foolish person, and I hope that punishment cleans him up.

                So how much have MS suffered under this heinous crime? Just because MS' share prices have been dropping steadily since Ballmer got the jersey doesn't mean that MS needs to hurt everyone that gets in their way.

                An Australian kid should be in prison for 20+ years because he's in possession of an SDK ( some software "anyone" could probably get by signing up as an MS developer).

                Grow a f***ing heart, if not a brain, for crying out loud.

                  No, he should be for maliciously stealing corporate data. You need to keep in mind the implications a leak on a multi-billion dollar company's flagship product can have, which include but are not limited to situations such as the following:

                  Sony see's news about Durango kit. Sony has an employee buy the kit, inspect it and learn from it. Sony purposefully uses this information to attempt to 1-up the competition, and as a result of this Microsoft may very well lose sales to a now-superior product (keep this balanced; I'm speculating and do not prefer either system from my writing standpoint) - costing them actual money.

                  That is, from the result of SuperDaE spending time doing something the he either thinks is a joke (his words; and an ignorant act in of itself) or he knows was malicious, Microsoft is losing a *lot* of money.

                  If someone was the sole cause of your business being fucked with; if they were the cause of you losing money, would you not want them to face diciplinary action?

                  liam: do you honestly believe that if MS released an SDK that, say, Sony would not already have direct and indirect links with a string of developers that have access to the SDK? That is, your claim about the probable damages sustained by MS are moot.

                  I'm not sure you understand what this kid actually had/has. He has the physical hardware dev kit, not just an SDK (though obviously there would be SDKs with it). These things are not easy to come by, and you don't just get one by signing up as a Microsoft developer. Units are very limited and the recipients are painstakingly chosen and NDAed through the roof. I can also tell you that it would be very, very illegal for Sony to possess one of these units based on signing up as a developer themselves, or even talking to any of the developers, but if some idiot does decide to leak information, Sony has full rights to view that (now public) info.

                  You also don't seem to understand the chain effects of his actions. As many have stated, there could be detrimental effects on a multi billion dollar project and the millions of people down the chain. This kid decided to mess with the bulls, now he is getting the horns. Considering the additional info noting his other activities, he is nothing short of a criminal.

          Good lord. Of ALL the software vendors out there, Microsoft probably has the best security team of the lot. This is not 2002 anymore - Microsoft fixed the problem of shitty security AND a shitty reaction to it long ago. Adobe, Apple, and Oracle have a long way to go to catch up.

          ALL software has bugs, ALL software will have security holes found in it. What matters today is how fast you close them, and nobody is faster than Microsoft today.

    He had to know he was breaking the law. Why act all surprised?

    On the bright side, if he was in Singapore a corporation would have hired a hit on him.

    Spoiling corporate secrets like this has the potential to risk the jobs and income of the thousands of people connected to a corporation so I can understand why it would be taken so seriously. That said, he'll probably get an outrageously over the top punishment.

    he has only turned 17 two months ago , was 16 during all this rubbish , hopefully he learns his lesson but please guys
    lay off hes a kid ......

      These comments really make you see how easy the police state can come about.

      The fact that "Its the law" on Kotaku seems more important than the morality. So what if someone under 18 gets extradited from the country he committed the crime in. If he didn't want to go to jail for the rest of his life he wouldn't have committed a crime while underage.

      He is such a danger to society he should be locked up longer than rapists and murderers.

        He's more than old enough to know what he was doing was wrong. The principle of mens rea applies, he knew he was doing the wrong thing and he knew the potential consequences.

          The courts don't agree with you unless there are extraneous cirumstances and would most likely try him as a juvenile.
          If you think that is old enough to know what you are doind you should be pushing for the right to vote for 16 year olds as well as the right to drink, have sex, get a credit card, apply for a home loan, drive a car on a full license like we did in my day, and many other things young people aren't meant to do.
          Mind you by his age I was using my skills in 1991 at 16 to earn around $70,000pa.

            Okay, a few things:
            - The drinking age is determined on medical grounds, not the notion of legal adulthood. There are several campaigns pushing to raise the drinking age in Australia to 21 or 25.
            - The age of consent is 16 in Australia.
            - Home loans are at the discretion of the bank and have nothing to do with adulthood (some impose minimum ages of 25, for instance).
            - The only reason you can't drive a car on a full licence is because of the minimum time required as a learner or provisional driver and has nothing to do with adulthood.

            Aside from those, yes, I think people aged 16 or above should be able to sign contracts, apply for credit cards (with appropriate scrutiny from the issuer) and so on.

            But on-topic, the reason there's any discretion to try juveniles as adults at all is because the criminal justice system understands that the ability of a juvenile to understand his actions and their consequences, and understand his legal rights in his defence vary from person to person. From age 14 up, juveniles are held fully criminally responsible for their actions. The only difference between a 14+ juvenile and an adult is the sentence. If the court determines that the defendant is acting out of immaturity and is unlikely to break the law again in future, they tend to go for rehabilitation, community service and fines. I don't believe that's the case with 'Dylan' here, who thus far shows no remorse whatsoever for his actions and every likelihood that he'll go right back to doing the same thing the first chance he gets.

      Yea, he was 16, and he had 'hard drives from over a decade ago', and he is the only person home to open the door and no parents are involved. I assume he is actually a poor orphan of unknown parentage who was dropped on someones doorstep as a baby too, right?

        ...with an ATX case as a crib.

          And having read The Age article* I am even more skeptical that he's anywhere near 18. "one of his Perth residences"? Like many 17 year olds with no family, of course he has more than one. He's eating "one meal a day" because all his bank cards and statements were taken, and obviously being an orphan he has no family...oh wait, it says he's relying on 'friends and family'? And of course the babyfaced photo was actually 'supplied by Dylan' - if it's even him, it could be from 20 years ago.


    The thing is... how does the leaking of the Durango development kit affect Microsoft? other then specs, it doesnt reveal anything about the next Xbox, at least anything the competition doesn't already know about.

      api's/os give everyone important information around services MS are launching that they probably haven't announced.

        Like the PS4 release where we learnt....oh yeah.

    I would have thought that after the first visit he would have gotten rid of all the other evidence he had just in case.

    do you guys understand hes a kid

      Yeah a 16 year old 'kid' should instead promise never to bad things again and go to their rooms without supper.

      Pretty sure I knew the difference between right and wrong when I was 16. I also knew that crime has consequences.

      Big assumption there aussie. He said he has drives from 10 years ago making him 6 when he started his nefarious activities.

      I say he is in his 20's...

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    How does a kid get hold of a dev kit if it's not stolen?

      Or without engaging in fraud?

    there is no dev kit its all not true

      I don't think they try to extradite you for leaking false information.

        He may of obtained developer documents via hacking but there is no way in hell he has a dev kit.
        They don't just hand them out to anyone & the amount of legal hoops you have jump through before they will even think about it makes it impossible for it to wind up in the possession of 16 year old kid.

          There are details on how his group obtained the devkit over on the Kotaku article. Turns out he didn't himself possess the devkit, but he did admit to a whole bunch of other crimes.


    Hey Luke, thanks for the article... could you maybe blank out the officers name on the photo? You can blank out an address, but when the internet evangelists get onto it they may make her life more painful than it should be.

      The resons on the warrant was also really vague ... I cant believe that they do not have to be more decriptive or specific.

    I bet that dude felt pretty big when he was hacking all those companies. I can almost hear him laughing and congratulating himself and bragging in forums of how stupid those companies are. And now he feels like a victim? What's the next stupid thing he's going to say? (like 'fessing his crimes publicly before being advised by an attorney) ""I have the right to rob you guys, you don't have the right to ruin my life over it!"

      what did he steal

        He possibly stole Information and possibly a dev kit. You don't get (in)famous for leaking information everyone else already knows.

    Run for the hills, somewhere quiet and live the rest of your days Snowboarding and playing ps4 games... fuck going up against what they have waiting for you... especially after admitting to other crimes and knowing they have now got evidence..
    I do feel for the guy, i have done stupid illegal stuff not thinking about the consequences until it all goes to shit like this... Especially if your not harming anyone.

      Not harming anyone? You would feel differently if SuperDaE's theft and leaking of information tanked the project you'd been working on resulting in you and your department losing your jobs.

      Australians need to get it through their heads - crime shouldn't be ignored, and it shouldn't be rewarded as we reward it. Our criminals become superstars. Our criminals live lives of peace, comfort, and luxury. Even jail is a holiday, no joke. But as we protect and reward our criminals, they're harming us. They harm our industries, they harm our health, our safety. But then when people like you come along and believe that they've received no personal harm, a criminal should walk free. You'll let a criminal harm everyone else, but you'll be bewildered when the harm comes to you. You'll feel surprised as a victim and look for help, but there will be none because we are a society which rewards and protects criminals.

        rewards and protects? that's a laugh. unless you're saying this as a person who's been to prison themselves, then don't say such things. yeah, we give 'em a free ride in a way. free food, drink, bathroom, and beds, but that's as far as the good points go.

          Hah zombie post. I might have been ranty that night but I stand by what I said back then. Punishment for crime is so minimal as to be negligible here.

          I haven't been to the joint though. No first hand experience. Only what I see in the newspapers :P

    He has no real legal options except to flee at this point the big company's will have their way unfortunately computer crime is a real thing.

      Simple solution , he advises Microsoft that if they do not manage to get him the minimum time in the same jail Madoff is in then he will release the dev kit to be copied and distributed around the world. Doing this would be taking a big chance but it would most defiantly make Microsoft stop and think about it for a while, also He needs to make sure he stops blowing his mouth off about hacking valve, if anything he has just caused himself a world of pain, but then again he is 16, i am sure if he is not extradited he will only get a slap on the wrist in Australia, maybe some time in jail but nothing serious. And seriously he was probably 15 when he hacked Valve, only in America would he be imprisoned for something like this.

        "Simple solution , he advises Microsoft that if they do not manage to get him the minimum time in the same jail Madoff is in then he will release the dev kit to be copied and distributed around the world."

        How many years do you want this kid to spend in jail? Doing that would be considered blackmail, that right there can get you 15yrs.

        Good plan, except for the fact he doesn't have a dev kit.

    If he signed an NDA, he broke the contract. Why people want to turn every a-hole into a folk hero is beyond me.

      You honestly think a 16 year old could have obtained it legally? Even if he signed an NDA I highly doubt if he entered a contract it was a legal one using his actual name/age/information.

    Really wish the Australian government would grow some balls and tell these U.S. spooks to go fuck themselves. How much money was wasted on this stupidity ? I'm surprised they didn't do a KimDotcom and land helicopters in his back yard. Pure American Hollywood. Shit Luke, did you nearly piss yourself laughing when you wrote this or what ?....cause I nearly did reading it. I think the only real hands-on experience Miles Hawkes has had is playing with his dick.

    What's next, indefinite detention in Guantanamo Bay for copyright infringement ???

    I can imagine the West Australian cops saying "Geez Sarge, do you think we'll be in a movie because of this, wonder if Nicolas Cage is gonna play me" ?

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      I don't really understand your position. Our law enforcement cooperation agreements are what lets us arrest an American scammer when he breaks into your bank account and steals all of your money, which I'm sure you'd be in favour of. So why is it unreasonable for it to work the other way too? The guy broke the law, why would he get off just because his victim is overseas?

        I'm all for going after hackers who break the law, but doing all this because he posted some information about a new gaming console is ridiculous. If an American broke the law there's no way in hell he would be extradited to Australia, and you know it.

        What's next ?....What's next, indefinite detention in Guantanamo Bay for copyright infringement ?

        Let the Australia legal system deal with it.

      Umm.. they have every right to enforce copyright law as we are both signatories to the berne convention. It has nothing to do with balls and everything to do with law.

        But why the aggressive need to extradite him. Dont they have confidence in our legal system and a respect for it?
        Or it is more worth wild to get the guy back to their soil where they may take advantage of their own loop holes.
        Dont get me wrong what he did was pretty silly and he expressed a flagrant disregard for the law so Im not defending him. But does international law on this subject require that he needs to be trialed on the accussor's soil.
        For all the things I dont like about American, I really do appreciate the strength of their mititary and their ability to defend allied nations. It gets worrying when they aggressively go on the attack of allied citizens. With an economy losing strength and poking fingers at allied nations while trying to control the internet, they will start losing more international support.
        That does concern my very comfortable but.
        Its just an opinion and probably a naive one too. Feel free to inform or correct me.

          The end user agreements he would have broken are from us companies written in us law etc. He broke American based laws so I'd say it's probably right he be extradited.

            FUCK American laws. When the last time an American was extradited to Australia for hacking ? You brainwashed morons will go along with ANYTHING Uncle Sam says. You can't think for yourselves.

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              When you deal with American companies and sign NDAs and contracts, or when you use American products that come with American licenses, you agree to abide by American law. If you don't want to run afoul of American laws, don't use a product or accept a license that requires you to abide by them, and don't steal from them.

                "...when you use American products that come with American licenses, you agree to abide by American law."
                No mate, we don't.

                By using this software I agree to use this software. Period.

                  No, you agree to all the terms of the license, which if you read them will include mention of a legal jurisdiction. If you don't like that, don't accept the license, because your consent is legally binding.

              When was the last time an American hacked an Aussie company? There's nothing worth hacking over here. What, Half Brick? Pronto? Name an Australian software company to start with. You'd be pro-getting your own if an American committed a crime against you, but it's unfair for them to bring a criminal to trial when his crimes were committed in Australia?
              And to answer an earlier rhetorical question from you - no one respects Australian laws, because there are only rewards for breaking them. People smuggle refugees here because you'll get free food and shelter if you don't sink. Bikers peddle drugs here knowing that if they're caught, they can keep right on running biz from jail. And people like you think a criminal deserves a reward? You deserve the toilet that Australian society is becoming.

          I think one day soon you're going to be very disappointed. When was the last time America defended Australia ?.....Ok, now when was the last time Australia defended America ?

          America won't do shit for Australia mate. You need to wake up.

        You're an idiot.

          It's called international copyright laws plus the backing of a fair trade agreement.
          You're calling everyone idiots while ignoring all the laws in place. You yourself with the ignoance sound more American than anyone else here.

    So who is source on all these, just the chap himself? it has all the flights of fancy of a hollywood movie, im not suggesting it is all untrue but cant believe of all the responses here everyone seems to believe it ALL at face value.

    This guy is no better Assange plays with these huge corporations but plays the victim card when they come after him. For all crimes there is a punishment that is how society works, thats why we dont all rob, murder or in this case screw with corporations just for the fun.

      If they can't find a loophole soon, the rape charge will come.

      Then he will be defamed & ridiculed and the trolls will believe the propaganda and spew vitriol for hundreds of pages on forums everywhere.

    I don't fully understand how he came to be in possession of the dev kit, but it sounds like it's Microsoft's property. You have no right to keep someone's property from them until they "Ask nicely".

      Love the moral ground.
      I do fully understand how Europeans came to be in possession of both North America and Australia, and I'm thrilled to hear that you'd support giving them back to the folks who originally had them. Bravo.

        I liked the part where you talked about something completely random and unrelated to what A said.

      He knew someone in the US, who sent him one.

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