Holden Volt Gets Local Price, Swathe Of Gadgets


After months of speculation, Holden has finally given its first all-electric car, the Volt, a local price, and detailed some of the nifty gadgets that will be bolted on when it rolls onto showroom floors in a few months.

The 1.4-litre, 4-cylinder Volt isn't cheap. It's essentially a glorified Cruze with a $59,990 price tag (plus on-road costs). For that amount of money, you're going to want something more than just a sedan with some AA batteries in it. Thankfully, Holden have tried as hard as it can to meet that need.

On top of the eight airbags, reversing camera and all-electric drive, you'll get a six-speaker sound system by Bose, as well as a 7-inch colour LCD touchscreen built into the console that includes voice recognition, Bluetooth connectivity, DVD playback, satellite navigation, USB input and iPod compatibility. On top of that, it has a 30GB hard drive to store all your tracks.

Apparently, Holden are positioning the car alongside more expensive European brands like BMW and Mercedes Benz in the hope that they can persuade the more connected driver.

Would you drop $60,000 on the Volt?


Comments

    And where does one charge this car?

    I eagerly await a new type of 'Eco-Bogan' that this will attract.

      Yeah, because Bogans regularly spend 60 grand on a brand new car with 111kW.

        But can it blend? That is the question!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDlMLqdvHzI

        Stick a milo tin on the back of it and listen to that baby rattle!

        Cashed up bogans do exist -- they're mostly in the automotive industry. They advertise cars on their front lawn (usually on concrete blocks) until someone stops by and makes an offer (usually including their old car in the deal). Then they repeat the process, slowly inching their way up to $60,000 then BAM! Get the thing souped up by your cousin Vinnie and you're crackin' burnouts on a Fridee night.

      Well the bogans can atleast read, unlike some arround here.

      "The 1.4-litre, 4-cylinder"

      It has a petrol engine to charge the batteries. So to answer your question, you can charge it anywhere you can drive as long as you have fuel in the tank.

      Perhaps going back to school would be a good idea.

      So let me guess, anyone who drives either a Holden or a Ford (both Australian made cars). Makes those people "Bogans". At least these "Bogans" keep some money in this country

      I was keen to get one of these for my wife, $60K?
      No body can afford that. Plus it doesn't add up financially.Considering:
      Volt = $2.50 per 80km = $0.03125 per km
      Cruze = $8.28 per 80km = $0.1035 per km
      Volt Cheaper to run = 7.225 cents per km

      Volt Car $40,000 more than Cruze

      Means you would need to do:
      553,633km just to cut even on the car cost.
      Economic my butt,.
      Rough numbers of course, but you get my drift.

      It would take 553,633km before this cars running cost would pay for the difference in the actual cars cost in comparison to a Prius. Which if you were doing 80km per day would equal 18years before it becomes "economical"

    Hmmm... carbon tax has just come in - petrol is excluded while electricity obviously isn't. Even less incentive to take the "more -eco" option! Not that I would anyway - if I was given $60k that I had to spend on a car, I'd buy a good one.

      Running a car on electricity is still around one-fifth the cost of petrol and if you charge it during off-peak times, you won't add so much as a single extra gram of carbon to the atmosphere.

        Except from those pesky coal fired power stations that, you know, produce the power.

      Who said the carbon tax makes any sense? ...Why should it hinder innovative development like this car? This is a great example of just why the carbon tax is a totally daft.. Hey lets encourage fossil fuel use that is largely imported by huge foreign multinationals (as apposed to using our very own energy sourced in Australia.) Other countries have seen through this nonsense and actually give incentives for owning state of the art engineering like this car. What's out Government do? They throw money propping up old technology like the Hybrid Camry. And now they are discriminating against the development and acceptance of all electric vehicles with the carbon tax. Brilliant stuff Conroy and co..

        Sorry I meant Combet..

        won't add a single gram of carbon, so where is the electricity coming from? wind farm? solar Panels? 95% of all power in Australia comes from Carbon coal! do some research before making statements that are completely wrong!

          Yeah... do some research and find out that In 2009 for example, 78% of the power was produced from coal, 14% from natural gas, 4.7% from hydro... and the rest from solar/wind/oil etc. (ESAA, Electricity Gas Australia 2010 Report)

          95%???

            @ NormandySR2 @ Huddo. The electricy source that you use for the Volt is up to you, it's your choice. If your carbon footpring is important to you, unlike conventional cars, the Volt offers you the opportunity to achieve zero well to tail pipe emissions by using sustainable electricity from your supplier or from your own solar cells (now with feed in tarrifs reducing the opportunity cost of charging your Volt from home solar cells is actually getting cheaper - QLD to offer 8c /kw-h feed in tarrif, so you might as well put your surplus into your EV ).

            If you choose to accept standard grid electricity, your carbon footprint will nevertheless improve over time as the grid becomes less carbon intensive. Again, this is something that the conventional car you buy can not do without adopting the problematic alternative fuels like ethanol mixes.

          Did you read the comment, if you charge off Peak no extra carbon produced, so not a gram of carbon is added. Do you understand how power generation works? Off Peak they are producing a baseline amount of power whether you use it or not. Only during Peak time do they adjust the amount of power generation to meet demand. So Off peak whether you plug in the car the exact same amount of power is produced so your use or not does not change the amount of carbon. ie using off peak power means no extra carbon produced.

          Yes I know if everyone stopped burning petrol and switched to electric cars and charged off peak electricity would go up and there would be a need to produce extra electricity.

          The electricity will be made anyway. It takes days to shut down a power station so they pump out masses of electricity all the time, whether it is being used or not. Charging an EV off-peak makes the whole process more efficient, which is a good thing all round.

      People need to read before making comments. This is a hybird. The petrol engine charges the batterys which run the electric drive system. This is not impacted by the Carbon Tax as petrol is excluded. So the whole post just shows people can't read, or they just hate Holden Cars

    1.4 litre 4 cylinder, that does'nt sound like an electric engine, just saying.......

      An excellent point.

        It doesn't mean there isn't one. The petrol engine isn't connected to the drivetrain. Only the electric one is, the petrol engine is connected to a generator that'll add a few hundred kms to your journey.

        Really though, it's not a lot of extra features. Get push to start and some automatic parking in there for a car of that size for that price. And if the voice recognition is anything like the current technology in the cruzes

          *its not worth your time to use it as its completely horrid.

          It has that and more, like lane departure warning and collision avoidance. All standard.

          "Holden has finally given its first all-electric car."

          "All-electric" gives the impression there's no petrol engine.

            It is all electric. It is completely powered by electricity.

            Where do you think electricity comes from?

            The petrol engine is used to charge the electric one, not drive the vehicle. So my laymans terms it would be 'all-electric'

              Which makes this article as bad as the one where they claimed Google fired an employee for posting photos of his uniform.

              http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/07/should-google-have-fired-this-newly-hired-redditor-simply-for-posting-pictures-of-his-uniform/

        This car is not a "psuedo" hybrid (like the Toyota's). Check your facts why the petrol engine is there.. There is actually setting in the car to empty the entire petrol tank after 12 months (because a lot of people will never use this engine in their daily driving)

    It's not *just* about "green" energy, saving the planet from (non existant) global warming and the carbon tax. It's about independence from price gouging supermarket monopolies and the foreign oil cartels. With this thing charging on off peak rates (which are now available to those with a smart meter) the fuel cost will be WAY lower than petrol. It's also about the technology, the fact that electric engines are way more responsive and have more torque than petrol equivalents, and way less moving parts. . The petrol engine will hardly ever be used for 99% of trips. It's there to stop range anxiety. This car is a challenge to the old way of doing things. It's about doing something different. The next version won't have a petrol engine at all and a range of 400km plus on battery alone. I we all sat back and didn't try, why get up in the morning? This alone is enough to own one.

    The current cruze 1.4 turbo has great fuel economy and less carbon intensive manufacturing process.

      And you know this how? Every review I've read has said the interior is amazing and the build quality is excellent. This car is the same size as an Audi A4, Mercedes C Class and BMW 3 Series, but rather than the snob-value of a German badge it offers the every greater snob-value of holier-than-though-environmentally-responsible status. I reckon it will do OK and should reach Holden's target of around 1000 sales a year.

        I agree with everything you are saying . But as I said, It's not * just* about the enviroment. It's also about owning a method of personal transport that is independent from foreign oil. In effect it is totally possible to run this vehicle from your own house and never pay anything to Woolworths, Coles, BP, Shell, or the Saudi's et al ever again. It gives hope back to free thinking people who hate the control these monopolistic forces have had on our economy, for so long....

    The first practical electric vehicle. Electric motor with a backup petrol engine to charge the batteries when their low.

    MotorMouth, nice to see a Holden rep posting on Giz...

    If it's manufactured by GM Korea like the Cruze and Barina it's not worth the road space it takes up.

      The Cruze is Australian made. In fact it's the only small car made in Australia and the way this country is run its probably the last too. Thanks Australian governments, getting rid of those import tarrifs

      The Cruze is Australian made. In fact it's the only small car made in Australia and the way this country is run its probably the last too. Thanks Australian governments, getting rid of those import tarrifs was a great idea. Now we have roads full of crappy imports and a heap of locally made vehicles not selling because they cant price compete with the cheap shit. Who needs jobs in Australia anyway.

        The market decides if "cheap shit" is on the road. If it does the job, people will buy it, and there's no need for the flashy vehicles. Quite obviously, the market has spoken. Nobody cares. We'd rather see tax dollars and economic time spent on more useful items.

          Thats a great way to look at it. If we look at all the Australian industries the same we can have just as much fun as our Greek friends.

      The cruze has been made in Australia since march of last year.

      It's why I named mine Bruce.

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    Why knock this car? At least Holden is actually getting off their backsides and trying? I think 60K isn't a bad price. With a touch of bargaining you might get it down under the luxury car tax. 60K is not expensive for a car these days. People have lost perspective of just how cheap cars have become these day's. We are totally spoilt. Heck the equivalent of 60K in yesterday's money 30 years back, wouldn't have even got you into a basic new bottom of the range car, with no safety features. No seat belts. No ipod. Not even a radio! And no, I don't work for Holden or GMH.

      I would have been absolutely shocked if a car came with an iPod dock 30 years ago, that'd be a lot of forward thinking.

        they have got to be joking.....$60k ...................I suppose people buying cars with tax payers money will think $60k is the norm to spend on a car........most REAL people that buy new cars with their OWN money will think twice about $60k for a car.

        It probably wont attract LCT as Im sure it will be classed as a "fuel efficient vehicle". I believe the LCT on fuel efficient kicks in around mid 70k.

        Sad to see some Aussies bashing the Cruze with their misguided opinion of where it is made, as the manufacture of it is now HERE in Australia and EMPLOYS AUSTRALIANS. And I might add its quality has improved since the switch of manufacture location, IMO.

      30 years back? That'd be 1982. The VH Commodore was top kid on the block, from memory. I owned one of them in the mid 90s. Nothing flash by modern standards, but it was a pretty good car for getting from A to B. Haven't been able to find original 1982 pricing for one, so don't know how it'd compare in 2012 dollars to the Volt.

      As for competing with BMW, Audi, Merc, etc: last time I heard that was when I was doing work for Chrysler in Detroit. Yeah, all the engineers working on the program laughed at it then, too... American style car design cannot compete with the Euro marques on quality, due to the way they're always built to minimise production cost - first, foremost, and always. Bling is just that - window dressing over the top of a car built using the cheapest materials sourced from the lowest-bidding suppliers.
      Last time I drove a Cruze, I was decidedly unimpressed. It was a rental, so may have been flogged half to death, but it had less than 5,000km on the clock and drove far worse than any car I've driven for years. Disclaimer: my daily drive is a Subaru, but we also have an Audi we picked up during the GFC for the price of a Commodore... :-D

        Yes that would be the run-out of the VC's and into NEW VH's and the First run of XF Falcons the prices don't compare really I think they were about $25-27000(some as low as $22-23000) and not imported, jobs were kept here .
        It's good to see the Cruze is made here, but sadly this new-commer is the GM-Volt from the US and our dollars leave our country for good ..... :(

    Its fair enough to say that the electricity used to charge these vehicles comes from fossil fuels I.e burning coal. However, it can't be helped that this vehicle technology is available now, since the early ninetys if not before truth be told. look at GM EV. One day there will be clean methods of producing electricity for 100% of our needs. This goes for battery technology as well. Why not develope this technology now? Because the infrastructure isnt up to speed yet? You would be a pinhead to think that innovations like this vehicle are not a step in the right direction. Also to say that someone is a bogan for driving a Holden is just ignorant. The same people are probably winging that "everything's made in China these days". Support and help encourage the developement a local product for goodness sake, even if it is an american owned company. It still employs thousands of Aussies and inspires millions. For the scene queens with badge envy, in the days when a Hyundai turns heads, I'm sure all the skinny chai latté sippers will notice you just dropped sixty large on your new über trendy green metal.

    Yeah, I'm curious how it's all electric if it has a 1.4 lt 4 cylinder engine.

      @Attila. Whilst the article above refers to all electric, a quick check of Holden's print suggests that Holden is not claiming this in the way the article implies. The Volt certainly offers all electric, but that depends on how you use it. This is something that the Prius can't do and is one reason why the Volt's electric drivetrain as reported by many owners, provides one of the best driving experiences to be had in any car.

      You charge it at home, you drive it 30km to work, plug it in and charge it at work drive it home and plug it in again. No petrol used. Sounds all electric to me.

    correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the volt is built in Detroit.. just saying..

    $32,000 in the USA we are getting ripped off again in AU. Shouldn't the carbon tax contribute to reducing the import tax of envo friendly vehicles.

      Thats the australia tax mate, not the carbon tax.

      The 32k is base model. Select the rest of the features and all of a sudden its $46k plus tax, however much that is. And in the US they'll probably get hit by Federal sales tax, State sales tax and then again by city tax. Not that big a difference at the end of the day.

    I can buy a cruze for $24k, why is this car more than twice the price?

      Because the cruise doesn't have a $15k Lion battery pack, Bose sound system inbuild GPS and all the rest of the goodies that the Volt does. And it costs more than $3 to drive 100KM in the cruise, while I can charge a volt at home for ~$1.50 drive 60KM then plug it back in use another $1.50 worth of electricity and drive another 60KM.... Oh wait, thats 80 KM per charge isn't it.... Oh well... $2 per 100KM. When I move into my new house with the 3.5KW solar system.

    Purchase price of a car is really the wrong question in the modern world. How many people buy outright their Android/iPhone these days?
    Rather than entry price, cost of ownership for a transportation experience of this quality is a better question.
    For a similar size conventional car used for city/urban driving covering 15,000 km/yr @ 11ltr/100km and $1.50 per litre, you are committing at time of car purchase to $2500 per year in petrol consumption. The Volt on the other hand has you committing about $250 per year @ 11c per Kw-h off peak tariff for electricity. That $2000 plus difference goes some way to addressing the cost of ownership compared with a conventional car.
    For cost of ownership comparison, what conventional car is the equivalent of a Volt? The US experience is that the majority of trade-in vehicles are Prius, and brands Honda, BMW, Audi and VW (see GM-Volt.com). These people see themselves as trading up to a Volt.
    Anyone priced an Audi A4 lately?

    False Marketing again.... "Holden has finally given its first all-electric car, the Volt"
    The Petrol engine some people have commented on, IS connected to the drive train....
    This is a series / Parallel hybrid... SO I could have phrased that a hydrid-hydrid.
    Under "Certain circumstances" (using GM-like double speak) the Mechanical Drive train DOES send torque directly through the system... (Planetary gear set..) Of course it still needs the Electrical system to vary the speed of the output, (I haven't got one to pull apart as yet so there are some details that are a little unclear but the various "Engineering interviews on it fill out the picture) in all likelihood, the car NEEDS the electric drive motor in order for the mechanical drive line to work (some technicality, nothing a mig welder won't fix for a test), and of course it will work on electric power alone (like the prius) until the battery is depleted.. then the "Range extender kicks in" and charges the battery.... (and in certain conditions (like speed over 80 for instance) torque to the "gearbox"... (again like the prius)
    Call it parallel / series hybrid, it can operate as a plug in electric as it is a "series hybrid in that (series indicates that the electric motors are in series with any engine ie. no mechanical drive at all) the petrol motor(gen-set/ alternator) can generate electricity which allows drive through the all-electric drive train, and it can act as a a parallel hybrid with the petrol motor and the battery both providing the power (mechanical power and electric power simultaneously, ie parallel)... it can also work as a simple petrol-electric, if the massive battery is removed (not designed to do this) as the generator constantly generates electricity and the electro mechanical drivetrain can provide propulsion (constant speed engine(or whatever the computer deems necessary), variable speed electric motor in the planetary gear set, results in an electric automatic gear box.. Ok is what too much , or is it ill informed.. (Was a little hasty I agree)....

    To see if a normal auto-trannie is "purely mechanical", drain out the fluid in your gearbox and see if it works.... See there is no direct mechanical connection between the engine and the wheels in an automatic transmission either. Conventional automatic cars, are series mechano-hydraulic hybrids.

    oops.. in all that I forgot the bleeding obvious....
    Say a holden Cruze can be gotten for around $24k
    Also suppose the battery in an electric car will still be working in 5 years but may need replacement at 8 and will have charging problems in between (unproven technology still)...
    You need to get the difference back in fuel saving in those 5 years, before shelling mout $10k for a new battery, or onselling the car for nothing at the end of 5 years.... (loss of $60k in 5-8 years)
    So somehow you need to save $35k (AUD) in 5 years, by saving fuel... (even 10 years. good luck) Hell I can buy 2 New Cruz petrol cars during the same time frame and throw them away and still be in front.. Not forgetting that If I buy 2 cars and sell them they will still be worth something, this overpriced technological marvel, is lucky to have any resale value after 5 years due to liability issues.

      +1
      Also the fact you are buying a car with a much more environmentally friendly build process and no need to dispose of the toxic batteries which most people seem to forget about.

        So you wouldnt recycle the battery? Thats a big waste of money! Lithium is very expensive. you want to just dump it in the tip? The entire pack can be recycled. The old pack is opend up. the individual cels are removed and recycled, new battery cells are put into the pack and sent back out to be put into the next car.

        Also MD. I dont know where you are getting your battery life figures from. Estimated life on the Hybrid Camry at 20,000km/y is 15 years. There are Prius' up here opperating as Taxis gettign 500,000km before needing to replace the battery. Toyota are expecting atleast 300,000km between batterty swaps. This came out when that drop kick MP in Victoria was trying to say that the batteries couldnt be recycled. In the first 7 years on these cars, with over 10,000 on the roads, only 3 batteries had to be replaced.

        If you have different info. Real world, verifiable info, please post it.

        Also what figures are you using as a cost to replace the battery? Battery replacements on the Chevy Volt, virtualy identical to the Australian model is $3000 - 4000 depending on who is dong the work. I'm assuming that cost assumes that you allow them to recycle the old one and the value of the old battery ofsets the cost of the new one. Even accounting for the Australia tax, battery replacement wouldn't be much more than $5000. So you have 15 years to offset $5000 replacement cost of the battery.

        Driving on battery only doing 20,000km/y @2.3c/km would cost $460/a. The Cruise on the other hand, assuming petrol stays as $1.50/l (yeh right!) is 10.4c/km is $2080/a. Thats $1620/a saving, over 15 years is $24000 saved over the life of the car.

        owning a car for 15 years isn't unusual. I just last year retired my old Subaru Liberty. Bought new in '94. Biggest work that I had to pay for on it was replacing the break rotors and shocks in '08. The engine got replaced at 3,500k, under warranty when the timing belt snaped. Happened a month after the first service.

        I'm sorry, but your math just doesnt add up when you have a look at the facts.

    They're mental.

    You can get a Prius C for $27k, the Prius V for $40k or the regular Prius for $35k, who the heck are they kidding?

    Why buy the Volt when you still need to buy Petrol?
    The Electric range of the Vehicle is ONLY 87km. So if you drive more than that in a day, you are going to be using PETROL.
    If given the choice, why would you not buy the Tesla Model S for $50K ($10K less than the Volt), and get a truly electric vehicle that outperforms regular petrol vehicles in power.
    Not to mention a decent range of 240km @ 100kph!
    Of course it comes down to what each individual will use in terms of petrol/power consumption.
    But if you're marketing to those that won't use more than 87km per day on average, then your price tag is way too high.
    I'd even consider the Camry H to be a better option at $40K for a 1,250km range per tank of fuel.
    Put aside the Australian Patriotic BS about which car is made in which country... The fact of the matter is, Holden is out of touch with what is required in a vehicle in our current environment.
    If Holden wish to truly compete in the EV market, then they need to increase their range two fold at least.

    I did that maths for this in a previous article.

    I think you’ll also find the cost of electricity is much lower than the price of petrol.
    Its official EU fuel economy figure is 1.2L/100km.
    Based off my calculations, 10A x 240V x 8h = 2.4KW x 8h = 19.2 kWh for a full charge.
    At my current electricity rate at home (24.02c per KWh) would result in $4.61 to fully charge the car.
    So at 80km per charge. That’s about $5.7 per 100km.
    Compare that to a petrol car of say 7L/100km (that of the Cruze) at current price of $1.32 per L for regular unleaded gives $9.24 per 100km.

    So the volt is about 40% cheaper to run if you never use the petrol engine. In a year, Jay Leno has travelled more than 16,000km in his Volt in Los Angeles without once having to put petrol in the car.

    Correct my maths if I’m wrong. Although I must say the $60K price tag is a bit steep.

    NOTE: this was done before the recent electricity price rise, which for me was 14%. So the benefit is again reduced.
    I'm all for the technology, but the initial cost is too high.

      HI there Inquiz....
      You have forgotten Purchase price, and new battery pack every few years... (I would also love my mobile phone battery not to die every few years, of course the iphone battery "never dies" (untill it does) but then If my phone is substantially cheaper than the iphone there is no benefit, so-long as it does the job I want it to..)...... Depreciation is the killer, or is that the Luxury car tax ??

      SMall cars only use small ammounts of fuel, at 3k pa, that is 10 years to save 30k, and that is only possible if electricity is free.... In the real world, for there to be a payback it must be within 3-5 years at most, or no one will invest.... Need to do some real maths now.

      If the payback is in touchy-feely then don't try to validate with economics.

        md, electric only the volt costs $1600 less to fuel per year. And lets face it, most people drive to work, if your really unlucky and you live far away from work, say 60km, you drive to work, it has cost you $1.38 in power. Now lets say that your workplace is forward thinking and allows you to plug your car in at work to recharge. That’s a free recharge, so you have driven 120km on $1.38 ($2.76 if your boss is a cheapskate and charges you for the recharge at work) The same Cruize costs you $6.24 to drive to work and another $6.24 home, assuming you don't get caught up in a traffic jam where your petrol engine is still running to creep you forward every few minutes, while the volt uses no electricity when idle. That’s $12.48 just to go to work and home. almost four times the cost of the Volt. Then there is the fact that your invented figure for battery replacement schedule is pure fiction.

    @john If you are looking for transportation from a Cruze with a purchase cost of $24k, you should do so. That might be the right car for you. I'm sure Holden would be happy about your choice. That is in fact one of the many reasons why the Volt exists.

    We get ripped off once again by an overseas manufacturer. The Volt is 31k in the USA. http://www.chevrolet.com/volt-electric-car/
    Good to see that the carbon tax could be subsidizing this car but no, thanks again Julia.

    Low Environmental Impact of Li-Ion Batteries, like those used in the Volt.

    http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/mythbusters-part-3-recycling-our-non-toxic-battery-packs
    Tesla Motors in 2008 provided commentary re the Li-Ion battery used in the Roadster EV that it contains no heavy metals nor any toxic materials.
    " The cells meet the requirements set forth by the Directive on the Restriction of the Use of Certain Hazardous Substances in Electrical and Electronic Equipment 2002/95/EC (commonly referred to as the Restriction of Hazardous Substances Directive or RoHS). In other words, they do not contain any of the following:
    1.Lead
    2.Mercury
    3.Cadmium
    4.Hexavalent chromium (chromium xxx or Cr6+)
    5.Polybrominated biphenyls (PBB)
    6.Polybrominated diphenyl ether (PBDE)
    Above and beyond RoHS, our lithium ion cells contain no heavy metals, nor any toxic materials."

    http://www.thedailygreen.com/living-green/blogs/recycling-design-technology/electric-car-battery-disposal
    Low environmental impact is furthered by long battery warranties and even longer useable life. In the case of the Volt the warranty is 8 years in Australia. This is assured by conservative State of Charge useable range (10.5 kw-h used out of a 16.5 total), modest charge rates (3.3 kw on-board charger), a highly effective liquid based battery thermal management system, and an immense amount of R&D and testing. A useable life should be substantially longer than the warranty as Holden will not want to have the commercial risk of expecting early battery pack replacements.

    Further, owing to the lead in conventional car batteries and their short life that we are all used to of about 3yrs warranty, these are more toxic than the Li-Ion batteries found in the Volt.

    Li-Iron EV battery packs even when removed from cars when their capacity degrades over time, they will still have substantial ongoing energy storage capabilities suitable for other uses, such as stationary backup systems in the home or commercial energy storage distributed within and about the electricity grid, or storage to produce base load power from renewable energy sources such as solar or wind power.

    Moreover, car companies are working on battery recycling infrastructure. Lithium is fairly valuable, as are some of the other materials involved, there is economic incentive to reuse the components.

    Li-Ion batteries as used in the Volt, although not benign, they are not toxic as commented in an earlier thread.

    i'm confused...
    Holden has finally given its first all-electric car, the Volt, a local price
    The 1.4-litre, 4-cylinder Volt isn’t cheap.

    Make up your mind

      I think the 1.4l, 4-cylinder thing is the petrol engine which is only used to charge the batteries when you go over the massive 60km or whatever range.

    30GB is also very sad for a car. Seriously? 30GB? Is this 2001?? Why can't they put a 2TB hard drive in the car seeing as it already costs $60k....

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