According to scientists, climate change is real. Humans have, are and will continue to affect this planet’s weather with their CO2 shenanigans. This includes WW2, where there was a demonstrable human-created invention that had a measurable impact on the weather.
That invention is the bomber. There were many, but the one you’re probably thinking of looks something like the Flying Fortress. This four-engine flying tank was the workhorse of the bombing war, and its contrails were responsible for a 0.8 °C decrease in air temperature around the bases from which it flew to go blast the hell out of the Nazis.
But you said cooler! I know. I know what I said. Contrails, long suspected of having some of the same effects as naturally occurring cloud cover, can cause both a decrease and increase in temperature. Unfortunately for us, it’s mostly the latter that happens. [New Scientist, Image: Image: Popperfoto/Getty]
Dan
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 9:34 AMGlobal warming solved just built more Of those things or create artificial contrails.
Peter
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 9:56 AMBut contrails! Big brother! NWO! NWOoooooo!
warcroft
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 10:09 AM“According to scientists, climate change is real.”
According to even more scientists, its not.
♣TadMod♣
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 10:13 AMI don’t know why, but I found this hilarious.
Christian
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 3:34 PMIt’s funny because this divides even us Gizmodians!
Christian
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 at 9:55 AMI told you it divides us haha
Antonia Powers
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 11:25 AM>> According to scientists, climate change is real.
> According to even more scientists, its not.
You are uninformed. Climate change is real and happening right now. Its only the pretend-scientific, like Mockton, who believe that climate change is not being contributed to by human activities.
Graeme
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 11:47 AMReally, based on what? There’s a tiny minority who say it isn’t real, where the arguments start is whether or not it’s anthropogenic (and even then the votes sway largely in favour of it being so).
Antonia Powers
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 4:07 PMDo you argue with the science involved in microsurgery? I’m guessing you don’t. Yet the same comprehensive and rigorous science that gives us the “miracle” that is microsurgery also gives us climate science. Yet to you they are different sciences.
Bust yourself reading, say,
before you propose you have any real understanding of the climate.
ozoneocean
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 2:22 PMHow about-
-According to scientists who are experts on climate and related fields, anthropogenic climate change (i.e. global warming), is a real phenomena.
-According to people who can put “scientist” after their name, but don’t actually work in the field of climate science or any fields relating to it and whose only common relationship is that they work either directly or indirectly for the oil industry, climate change is made up.
Also, if you give them enough money you can buy their grandmothers.
Kim Randell
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 at 7:45 PMTHE CLIMATE IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING. That’s a given.It warms up, it cools down, it warms up, it cools again. It’s been doing that for millions and millions of years without Man’s assistance. We do not live in a Greenhouse but in a gaseous environment with three dimensional thermodynamic flows influenced by planetary rotation, cloud formation(water vapour), sunspots, volcanoes and earthquakes. Yes, earthquakes produce incredible amounts of CO2 due to massive mechanical forces applied to the most common rock structures on Planet Earth(i.e.Limestones)whose main component is Calcium Carbonate. The USGS website has historical data of world-wide earthquakes reaching back to the earliest recorded by Man. From that time to the present there has been an exponential increase in seismic events of significance (Richter 3 and above) which correlates with the increase of atmospheric CO2 that the IPCC is touting over the same time frame. Go figure. Anthropogenic GW is a myth created and promulgated by A Gore & associates to mop up more money than our failing oil industries can now deliver. So pay up and enjoy……. Make you feel warm all over.
Cpt. Pajama Shark
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 10:11 AMNah, if everyone in the world turned on their air conditioners and opened all their doors and windows at the same time, I’m certain we could lower the temp a few degrees.
Or.. or.. or.. a big pipe from antartica that could blow cold air where we need it.
Or… what about just picking up some of the sea and shooting it back onto the glaciers that it melted off, that way the water would freeze on contact, and re-fatten the glacier.
or…… ah that’s enough for now.
Don’t wanna give away ALL my awesome ideas.
*KNOCK on front door.
“Hello, oh hey, Al Gore what are you doing here”
*Shotgun blast
*Tires screeching
Christian
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 3:32 PMedit:
*KNOCK on front door.
“Hello, oh hey, Al Gore what are you doing here”
“MAN-BEAR-PIG!!!! HE IS REAL I TELLS YOU!!!!”
*double-facepalm*
Cpt. Pajama Shark
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 8:27 PMDamn it! Forgot about the MAN-BEAR PIG!
Epic fail!, my bad
Ollie
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 12:45 PMWell TBH, two words: “Ice Age”. I guarantee the Dinosaurs didn’t have a massively industrialised planet… so what caused that then? Aliens?
ozoneocean
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 2:14 PMUmmm… did you miss all that stuff about the meteorite/comet that people have been talking about for the last 20 years?
InformedGamer
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 3:27 PMThere have been 4 scientifically proven Ice Age’s in the history of Earth. Are you going to try and blame a meteorite for those ones too?
Christian
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 3:31 PMwhat about the mini ice age? or the warm period when Vikings were out and about with their lush green fields in what is now frozen ice fields.
oh how the world changes, I blame the sun and its damn spots!
Dan
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 3:33 PMExcept genius, the comet / meteorite didn’t CAUSE the ice age. It caused the dinosaurs to go extinct.
There have been many ice ages, the most recent of which ended about 20,000 years ago. Which is quite a long time after the last dinosaurs went extinct.
Now, there would seem to be a link between CO2 and global temperature. But whether what’s happening now is caused by humans is very much up for debate. Take this graph, for instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vostok_Petit_data.svg
It shows data from the last 400,000 years. It quite clearly shows a link between CO2 and temperature, but also the fact that there have been multiple cycles in the last 400,000 years. How many of those were caused by people driving SUVs around, do you think? That’s right – none of them.
Global climate always has and always will change. It’s daft to say otherwise. But to now suddenly blame a natural phenomenon on the actions of humans for the last 150 years is moronic.
Mat
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 4:05 PMSo your 100% sure there is no climate change caused by humans and that’s a good reason to keep polluting the environment?
Christian
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 4:13 PMif you are using the word polluting with CO2 then yes why not…how about we reduce real pollutants that actually do harm.
not this bullsh@t “Carbon Pollution” Gillard and Co keep harping on about.
wtf? seriously, anyone with year 10 or above chemistry should know that this term is incorrect to the max!
It is carbon dioxide as well, not ‘carbon’.
CO2 a colourless, odours gas, not this evil black soot they want to portray.
Sorry but they could at least tell the truth if they want to change the way we live in this country.
Mat
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 4:53 PMAre you saying that there is no greenhouse effect and that atmospheric co2 cannot cause heating?
If your complaining about political semantics your wasting your time.
warcroft
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 8:32 PMCarbon wasnt a pollutant until Al Gore said so.
Carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the universe. Its the second most abundant element in the human body.
I agree 100% that we shouldnt be polluting our planet, but carbon (carbon dioxide) is NOT a pollutant.
If you believe an increase in carbon dioxide is causing global warming. . . then fine. Believe what you must. But PLEASE research further into who is making this big push about global warming and why.
The new climate tax is a huge indication of the true purpose of getting people to believe in anthropogenic climate change. The con is so blindingly obvious!
Dont people get it? We are being taxed for the weather!
And this. . .
In section 2.9.1 in the IPCC AR4 report , over 90% of factors thought to cause “global wamring” were found to have little or no consensus.
Remember how many people were conned by the supposed Y2K Millennium Bug? The United Nations even set up committees and held conferences and forums on the supposed effects. They said it could affect power supplies, telecommunications, financial systems, public health, food supplies, emergency services, utilities and the organization of social welfare, and advised coordinated efforts by governments and private, public and international organizations to address the year 2000 problem.
The World Bank and the United Nations Development Program (UNDP), in cooperation with the G8 and other donor nations, set up a network of experts in key sectors to assist national Y2K coordinators in assessing the problem.
The UN was also set to help countries that require long term or expensive technical assistance to obtain funding and provide humanitarian assistance as needed.
And what happened? Nothing, which goes to prove bad science makes great religion!
And the latest from the nutty climate scientists. It seems that as their predicted sea level rise from supposed ice melt was a non event they have now come up with this conclusion as to where all the water went to try & cover themselves:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2012307/Fat-planet-Melting-ice-caused-global-warming-adding-Earths-girth.html
It boggles me that people still fall for this climate change stuff.
warcroft
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 8:36 PMOh. . . and now we are being told that burning coal causes global cooling!
http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/2011/07/shock-burning-coal-now-causes-global-cooling/
Come on people! Its smacking you in the face!
warcroft
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 8:52 PMAnd this will be my last one. . .
The UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change misled the press and public into believing that thousands of scientists backed its claims on manmade global warming, according to Mike Hulme, a prominent climate scientist and IPCC insider. The actual number of scientists who backed that claim was “only a few dozen experts,” he states in a paper for Progress in Physical Geography, co-authored with student Martin Mahony.
“Claims such as ‘2,500 of the world’s leading scientists have reached a consensus that human activities are having a significant influence on the climate’ are disingenuous,” the paper states unambiguously, adding that they rendered “the IPCC vulnerable to outside criticism.”
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/06/13/the-ipcc-consensus-on-climate-change-was-phoney-says-ipcc-insider/
So, its not ‘thousands of climate scientists agree’. Its only a few dozen.
A few dozen who work for the IPCC and whos funding relies solely on ‘proving’ climate change.
Mat
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 9:56 PMI think your confusing climate scientist and scientist. There are “thousands of scientists” supporting AGW theories because they’re writing the papers exploring them.
There probably aren’t “thousands of climate scientists”. Your talking like 99% of scientists don’t support AGW theories. Are they all being supressed? All of them?
Where are these thousands of climate experts who know that AGW is false and why do we only hear from idiots like lord what’s his name?
warcroft
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 10:41 PMWhy is he an idiot? Because he believes differently than you?
warcroft
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 10:44 PM“Where are these thousands of climate experts who know that AGW is false?”
What, youve never used Google?
warcroft
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 10:48 PMhttp://www.climatedepot.com/a/9035/SPECIAL-REPORT-More-Than-1000-International-Scientists-Dissent-Over-ManMade-Global-Warming-Claims–Challenge-UN-IPCC–Gore
Gihon
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 at 2:26 AMGiven a planet with finite rescources, one only has to add the element of time to see that what we are doing is unsustainable, even if it wasn’t, have you seen what pollution does to the world? Have you seen the difference in a sunrise over a beach in non polluted air? It’s incredible, why cover the beauty that nature has shown us when we could just as easily have less impact on our planet, especially when all it’s going to take is a few leaders that can think past their time in power, the rest is just money, which we all know is fictional, but that’s another story.
Adz
Monday, July 11, 2011 at 11:13 PMThere is consensus on climate change, there is far too much evidence of varying temperatures, CO2 and sea levels, etc in the past to deny it. The climate is constantly changing…but there is no consensus on how much is anthropogenic. I certainly don’t think we are the major cause of it, there are much bigger natural mechanisms we can’t control.