

What’s been your experience with Vodafone in July? We want to know what you think, and so far, almost 800 Giz readers have responded. Almost 30% of you feel that data is still flaky, and just over half are ready to call it quits — despite Vodafone saying that their network fixes are ahead of schedule. To play fair, we gave Vodafone the chance to address concerns. Here is their response.
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Gizmodo: How will Voda’s 850Mhz network affect users with non 850 smartphones?
Vodafone has rolled out our 850 MHz 3G equipment at around 810 sites to date, and will bring this new network layer to around 200 more sites this year (detailed rollout schedule on our website).
We will also introduce 850MHz 3G to a further 500 sites next year. This new 850mHz 3G network will increasingly be utilized by smartphone customers, using devices such as Apple iPhones and Android devices as well as those using newer Mobile Broadband USB modems.
At the same time, Vodafone’s introduction and utilization of the 850MHz spectrum also frees up parts of Vodafone’s existing 900MHz and 2100MHz frequencies, which will benefit customers using non-850MHz devices.
OK, that explains how 850 could actually provide benefits for everyone. And the proof will be in user feedback. Meanwhile, here’s Vodafone’s response to Lifehacker’s recent tests in the Central Coast and Newcastle areas of NSW. The results were less than impressive, and only conducted after Vodafone wrote a blog saying “In the 49 sites completed in the Newcastle / Hunter and Central Coast region, all network reliability measures improved significantly.”
From the looks of their response below, perhaps Vodafone should have waited until the upgrades were fully complete to spruik any improvements.
In response to Lifehacker’s tests: the rollout is ahead of schedule but it is not yet complete and we have a great deal of work to do as we continue to build our new 850MHz network, add new sites, upgrade sites and install new the equipment across our radio access network.
To clarify, Vodafone’s rollout program comprises two major parts:
1. Rolling out our new (850MHz) 3G network, specifically designed to improve smartphone, tablet and mobile broadband performance and enhance indoor coverage for compatible 850 devices.2. Replacing equipment on our radio access network with new Huawei equipment across the entire network, capable of delivering 2G, 3G and, later, 4G from a single base station site
These two parts are more often than not happening at different times in each location. For example in Newcastle we completed the radio access network swap out, but will not complete the 850MHz network build until the end of September. The improvements derived in Newcastle as a result of the upgrade are focused mainly on call quality and more reliable mobile broadband connections.
The recent article on Lifehacker specifically examines mobile broadband performance. The testing took place using a Pocket WiFi device during a journey which covered some areas that have been upgraded to the new Huawei network equipment and some that have not yet been upgraded.
The equipment upgrade is one of the programs to improve the Vodafone network, but not the only program, and the primary goals of the equipment replacement is increased call quality and a more reliable mobile broadband connection.
None of the sites tested by Lifehacker have had the benefit of Vodafone switching on the new 850MHz 3G network, which we expect will have the biggest impact (of the two major parts of our rollout program) on improving mobile broadband performance and speed for compatible 850 devices. Vodafone is planning to roll out the first of its new 850MHz 3G network sites on parts of the Central Coast, Newcastle and the Hunter later this year. The Newcastle area is also yet to receive the transmission upgrade which should bring more improvements for data.
Even though the tests don’t reflect ultimately what we are building in the Newcastle area, our research shows customer satisfaction in the area has more than doubled as an outcome of the work we have completed to date.
Vodafone provides customers with detailed information on its network rollout schedule for both its network equipment upgrade and its 850MHz 3G rollout. Full details are available at www.vodafone.com.au/network
Leave a comment with your thoughts on the above, or any questions that you still have surrounding Vodafone’s network. I’ll get in contact with a rep and do my best to get them answered asap.
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Nathan
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 5:12 PMToo little too late, gone.
Notice they don’t mention about not taking too many customers on for network utilisation levels.
They aren’t going to tell us them and this probably only upgrades to levels needed now.
I guess it might balance out with the numbers leaving.
Jon
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 5:33 PMIt’s so funny how vodafone is still upgrading their shoddy 3G network while Telstra’s LTE network is imminent.
gacho
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 5:43 PMmoved to vodafone due to the nexus one and trust me once my contract is up I am leaving. I have seen no improvement at all !!
Alex
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 5:48 PMI use vodafone as my business phone. I sometimes do not receive calls, and voicemail takes 24+ hours to notify/update.
Called on multiple occasions and nothing can be done.
any advice for getting out of my contract?
Scott
Friday, July 22, 2011 at 10:48 AMPost on the vodafone facebook page. An just say you are sick of it. They pretty much let me out of contract without even asking me to stay. Had to pay out the cost remaining on my iphone though. but no exit fee.
Am loving being on telstra now, after a few hurdles with porting. The only thing i miss from VF is visual voicemail.
Alexis
Friday, July 22, 2011 at 1:07 PMhttp://www.tio.com.au
Chris
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 6:45 PMI abandoned Vodaphone two weeks ago and have been sent a $520 bill to buy out the contract. Yes it’s a lot of money but I seriously just couldn’t stand it any more. Not because of the transmission issues but because of the ‘service’ itself.
The constant account suspensions because the bills were repeatedly sent to the wrong address, ignoring requests for a paper invoice to remedy the situation, flaky software that refused to reactivate the phone when the bills were paid, and a Catch 22 refusal to allow me to access the account by both a frontline ‘support’ person *and* her supervisor all resulted in me finally cancelling the contract and moving back to Telstra.
Am I sorry?? Not one bit. If I never have to deal with Vodaphone again it will be much too soon!!
Seamus Byrne
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 7:11 PMThere’s lots of stories of people arguing their way out of contract termination fees due to poor service. You should try it.
Nate
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 7:17 PMI’ve actually noticed a drop in my data browsing over the past few months. Takes me minutes to load simple pages like gizmodo sometimes, and you can forget about videos.
cam
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 7:23 PMI work at a phone store myself. If a provider is not delivering tjr service you are paying for, you are under no legal obligation to continue the contract or pay any cancellation fees. Call vodafone and discuss this with them- if they don’t let you out, call the telco ombudsman and you will be out of that contract in no more than 14days.
Chris
Friday, July 22, 2011 at 7:36 AMTo be fair whilst I think the service is so under par that it’s a joke, the contract included an HTC Legend phone so I think they’d be within their rights to insist on payment for the phone and I’m honestly not up for arguing with them any more. The bill is huge but bearing in mind the hardware we got I think it might be hard to justify refusing to pay the entire bill. Still… one call thru to the Company to ask is worth considering!
Matt
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 7:49 PMHow the heck is 850mhz going to help Android users? We were all lumped with 900mhz phones to work on Vodafones network. This seems more like a ploy to get Telstra customers/850mhz phones onto the network than anything
Try rolling out some 900. That will actually help your customers.
Chris
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 8:13 PMI’ve been with Vodafone for a number of years now. Never really had a problem until about 2 years ago when I signed up for my “new” android phone.
It was the “HTC Magic”, on a cap, and all fault to me, I didn’t realise that the Australian version of the phone had half the “ram” and memory size of the U.S. equivalent. I was stuck with a 2 year contract with a lousy phone (I even thought I might have been better off with an Iphone 3gs “gasp!”). Since then I have been over-charged (to the sum of $420 for a screw up, with no way for a refund, just credit), had a bad connection at home and at work (0 bars to 2, and randomly jumping between them), flaky 3g connection.. have bought a HTC Desire HD from overseas since then, but my contract (ending september) can not end soon enough. Maybe if I hang around, everyone will leave and I’ll have all the bandwidth to myself. Hooray
Franz
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 8:18 PMLol they are not admitting to any wrongdoing or hint of incompetence, they weren’t even concerned with the results, so why did they bother responding, oh, it must be because of incompetence.
Steve
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 8:28 PMCurrently on Voda IP4, but they’ll have to pull a miracle for me to renew a contract in 10 months-ish. And by miracle I mean.. MUCH more generous data and reception than competitors and maybe a free month or two.
salmonpie
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 8:37 PMI stood up and said I was happy the other day and now my connection speed has dropped to around 300kb, rubbish! Sad Vodafone, now feel like we’re going backwards. I have one phone locked in and another up for renewal, think I’ll cancel :(
Chris M
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 9:02 PMTo my understanding wasn’t there something the consumer watchdog had put in place recently so that vodafone HAD to cancel an account with no fees if a customer was complaining about service/quality of network? I remember hearing about it on the news and SO many people bailed, Optus picked up heaps and Telstra even more. Fuck vodafone. I have to use vodafone for my work mobile but fortunately it’s not a smart phone (blackberry bold, no, they’re not a smartphone, shut up) and a vodafone 3G wireless dongle for when I am working away from a physical network. The phone line quality is OK, however the 3G wireless is absolutely SHITHOUSE.
I’m a network engineer and I full well understand that it’s not how many bars signal your device has, but you’re devices ability to be able to transmit back to the source as well, being wireless is a 2 way street. However when I am sitting outside, no more than 200m from a repeater tower for optus/vodafone (they share the majority of their service towers in WA, my brother works for Kordia who have the maintenance contract for vodafones preventative maintenance) and I am still not even able to CONNECT? Vodafone can go fuck themselves. My brother only works for kordia because there’s so much work to be done ALL the time for vodafones shit network. /rant.
Nathan
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 9:10 PM+1 already switched to telstra…
neurosine
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 9:38 PMI received a 800.00 plus bill from Vodafone, decided not to pay it until I could get it sorted, couldn’t contact anyone, finally paid it after losing dial-out capability on my business phone, still had no dial out service for over a month, finally contacted someone, canceled the service(with a refusal to return of my payment) Now I receive a bill from them every month for 98.00 credit. This is the worst kind of company. I really hate them. I’ve let it go because why let bad people poison my well, but I’ll never forget, and never let a client or friend use them.
Shepard
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 9:58 PMThe new Huawei equipment will be able to transmit LTE frequencies with software.
Telstra will have to do all the manual work vodafone is doing at the moment installing LTE hardware.
Vegasstalker
Friday, July 22, 2011 at 7:48 PMnot sure if u are aware but there are multiple articles about telstra rolling out their LTE network already
http://www.zdnet.com.au/telstra-switches-on-4g-base-stations-339315551.htm
Aamir
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 10:10 PMI am using Vodafone for iPad and believe me I have to look for a spot where the iPad will connect. Most of the time I get connection errors – I have given up on it. I will try to get out of my 1 contract. This is in Yass, NSW.
Free At Last
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 11:03 PMAfter enduring 7 months of network issues I finally gave up waiting for Vodafone to fix their network. This week, 5 phone call to them and finally they agreed to cancel contract of my beloved HTC Desire HD and also waiving cancelation fee cause they couldnt give a timeframe when their network in postcode 2218 would be fixed.
Goodbye Vodafail and hello Telstra, please sell me 2x HTC Sensations.
Eugene
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 11:19 PMI’m in country WA and I’ve been with Vodafail for 2 years now. The voice was flaky for a little while but I do believe it has improved or I moved to a slightly less flaky street.
It’s the data that is more important to me so when I was nearing the end of my contract I went and grabbed a T hotspot modem to test out the network. It was a marked improvement but not what I would call stellar, about 50% better speed and slightly better reception. So i look into defecting to T but the value for money and data allowance was a real letdown and I decided against better judgement that I could in fact stick with V for another 2 years, sold my soul for a shiny new SGS2.
That is when the absolute fail of my situation hit, I popped my T MBB SIM into my phone and found out that the modem was HSPA while the T network out here is HSPA+. I instantly noticed speed of about 3.5-4Mb/s vs the 1.5-2MB/s on T HSPA and 0.9-1.3MB/s on Vodafail. Those speeds definitely would have made the extra $$$ on T worth it.
So I did a massive facepalm and have to suck up 2 years of shitty BB on Vodafail all while saving a paltry $20-30 a month.
Looks like I should move out of the sticks.
Network research fail. SGS2 is awesome though.
UnhappyADJ
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 11:25 PMVery unhappy with Vodafail here in Melb East. Complained but nothing improves. Sent new 850Mz USB modem. Fails to work well here as well. Back on the old 900 USB stick. DNS servers fail regularly around 10.00pm onward as users login(Please VODA, do a reboot regularly on them !). Down to the stage in about a month when I move, never to be used again. Major Tier 1 Vendor ! – Huh ! VODAFAILS again.
Ben
Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 11:31 PMJust waiting for the new iPhone and prices from Telstra and I’m switching, very slow internet and I’m in Prahran and work in the city.
A bit of a shame really Telstra hasn’t got much competition in terms of performance, price yes, performance not a chance
wsDK_II
Friday, July 22, 2011 at 11:25 AMnot a shame for me as Telstra pay my wage :)
Kyle
Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 9:47 AMthanks, i really like it too, its caelld Tunein but i like Pandora better, my sister told me about it. it makes playlist of your fav artist, more individualized. do they either of those for your iphone?
Madman
Friday, July 22, 2011 at 8:17 AMIf any of you have tried resolving a complaint with vodafone via their vodafoneau_help twitter account you might be pleasantly surprised. I had a bill issue solved in under a day. Fast friendly service give it a shot. Network is average but ok in my area (melbourne south easy)
Cameron
Friday, July 22, 2011 at 8:19 AMHang on, what? Vodafone is rolling out an 850 Mhz network? How’s that going to help all their existing customers with 900Mhz phones?
Gage
Friday, July 22, 2011 at 9:58 AMHere’s an example: iPhone 4 is 850Mhz compatible….once these data hungry phones can jump on the new network it will free up bandwidth on the other frequencies.
Nads
Friday, July 22, 2011 at 11:32 AMIt’s definitely improved over the last few months. Been doing speed tests every now and then on 3G and I’m pinging around 80 and my download speeds are constantly around 3Mbps and uploads around 2Mbps.
Still have the occasional network gremlins that require turning 3G on and off to get anything happening. But definitely not as much as last year.
Overall pretty happy
Corey
Friday, July 22, 2011 at 11:37 AMI live in Merewether and my mum is in Caves Beach, when I am at either houses my Motorola Bravo from America only can use our EDGE signals. I am really really! hoping that the new 850 Mhz 3g network is faster then this stupid 2g…>:( Ive checked and my phone is compatible..so I can only wait 8)