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Netgear CEO Patrick Lo Discusses The NBN

Gizmodo AU

Netgear CEO Patrick Lo had a lot to say at an intimate lunch with journalists on Monday. But while his comments on Apple and Microsoft were the big stories of the week, he also had some fascinating perspectives on the NBN. Given his position in the networking space, they’re well worth listening to.

To be fair, Lo prefaced his talk about the NBN by admitting he had an ulterior motive given Netgear’s position as a networking hardware supplier. But he gave his opinion on the matter anyway:

“If you have fibre to the home, there’s so much you can do… You know in the US, we have a saying, “If you build it, they will come”. So it’s the same thing. Once you build that kind of bandwidth, you will generate so much creativity of what can be done. It’s tremendous.

“For example, after the 1987 financial crisis, you remember at that time Korea was in deep trouble. They got a bailed out by IMF, bailed out by the US and it was really tense. I remember at that time Korea actually asked their citizens to donate their gold to the Government to save themselves…

“So the government decided that, “You know what? How do we go forward?”. The only way they could get out of this whole heap of problems was to stay at the forefront of technology. So they were the first ones to decide that they would give every single home broadband internet access, minimum 20Mbps, all the way up to 100Mbps…”

Granted, Korea’s government wasn’t quite the same robust democracy Australia has now, but the decision to invest in technology seems to have paid off for the country, with some big economic rewards.

“With that kind of connectivity to the homes, they created the world’s first online gaming community, and see how big it is! Online gaming… I mean Warcraft… that’s from them.

“So I think that when you build it, it will come. It will generate so much creativity for people to generate new types of business on the internet, it’s just amazing.”

But as we’ve mentioned, it’s all well and good to look at Korea, a relatively small country with a huge population, and admit a national broadband infrastructure helped them economically. But Australia is a large country with a small population, and that raises some debate over the effectiveness of the NBN solution. Lo recognised this:

“But of course the controversy is whether you should do it by the government or you should let the private sector do it with a framework from the government.

“It’s difficult for me to say… When you have a big economy like China or the US, I don’t think the government should do it, because there’s enough money to be made. But in an Australia where you’ve got a huge geography, where it’s pretty difficult to make money if you have to do it to Tasmania, then it’s different. I can’t say”

But what about the Liberal solution, wireless? Given Netgear’s history with providing wireless routers to homes around the world, you would expect Lo to have a pretty decent understanding of the technology’s strengths and weaknesses. When asked about Obama’s plan for 98% wireless access to all Americans in five years, Lo said:

“The only thing I know is that frankly, as appealing as it is for the wireless network, it cannot shoulder the load that we envisage. It just can’t – it’s physically impossible. So that’s why you’ve gotta continue to try and offload your traffic as much to the NBN, to Wi-Fi, as much as you can.

It’s interesting that even though Lo understand’s the controversy about having the Government being completely in charge of rolling out the NBN, he still feels that it’s a crucial step forward for the future of Australia.

Discuss

(19 Comments)
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    Andrew

    Thursday, February 3, 2011 at 5:03 PM

    I think he missed one key point in that a greater geographic spread of a population could advantage more significantly through connectivity which would offset the increased inconvenience of deployment.

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      Steve

      Thursday, February 3, 2011 at 9:42 PM

      I don’t think it was an accident. Because when you bring up rural communities, the case for having expensive fibre optics going into every home just becomes difficult. And since his business thrives on piggy-backing on wired home lines….well.

      It makes more sense (given Australia’s population) to simply go all-out wireless. It’ll be easier to erect a single 4G tower in a small town than it is dumping kilometres of fibres and then splitting them for a town of <1000.

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    Tom

    Thursday, February 3, 2011 at 5:04 PM

    Good on him, especially the last quote. Sadly, it’ll sail right past Tony’s gigaaantic ears and into the ether.

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    Glen davies

    Thursday, February 3, 2011 at 7:20 PM

    So the best this guy can come up with to suport the nbn is. ” look at korea it created warcraft!”
    God help us 30 billion dollars so people that haven’t grown up yet can play games online.
    Mr Conroy must be an avid gamer to be spending this sort of money. Oh i forgot it’s only the taxpayers money.
    Let us see mr conry’s comittment to the nbn. If it turns out a white elephant mr conroy forgoes his generous mp’s superanuation perks. ( as these will be funded by the telstra sale it is actually quite ironic)

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    pan.sapiens

    Thursday, February 3, 2011 at 7:40 PM

    “Australia is a large country with a small population”

    It is worth bearing in mind, though, that Australia’s population is very concentrated compared to e.g. the United States.

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      StevoTheDevo

      Friday, February 4, 2011 at 11:03 AM

      I read this claim a lot but I never see the evidence…
      American cities are clearly more densely populated than ours (we have very few people living in Apartments) and there’s no way the US regional areas are less densely populated than ours!

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      StevoTheDevo

      Friday, February 4, 2011 at 11:31 AM

      Also, when you can fit the entire population of Australia into New York alone, it kinda makes a mockery of any comparison!

      Looking at population densities of US cities against Sydney (our most densely populated city)
      Sydney 2058/sq km

      Seattle 2590/sq km
      Des Moines 2630/sq km
      Houston 3371/sq km
      Albuquerque 2480/sq km
      New York 27 000/sq km

      All but Albuquerque are significantly higher than Sydney’s (therefore even more significantly than anywhere else in metro Australia).

      Victoria has the highest population density in the nation at an average of 24/sq km
      Remove Melbourne’s 4 million and land area of 8806 km and regional Victoria’s population density is 7/sq km…
      SA’s Regional density is 0.5 (WA, NT and QLD will be lower still!)
      If the cities are less dense and the regions are less dense how is Australia’s population more dense?

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    red t-rex

    Thursday, February 3, 2011 at 9:02 PM

    That’s why I support the NBN, Not for faster movie downloads or email but for the technical innovations that are yet to be created. That’s what makes it hard to put a price on it and also what makes it in some eyes a large gamble, as who can say whether the end result will be worth it.

    I understand the opponents who rationalise what else could be done with such a sum of money: hospitals, education, a water pipeline for Perth, etc. Yeah, it can be hard to argue against these as they are all worthy of expenditure, but I guess most of these are in reasonable order (except for say Queensland at the moment) and we may never get another opportunity to do something like this that could have a profound affect on our country and put us at the forefront of technology.

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    Tel

    Thursday, February 3, 2011 at 10:03 PM

    I thought that both Warcraft and Starcraft were made by Blizzard Entertainment, based in the USA. Sure, multiplayer gaming is a popular consumer passtime in Korea, but the products are coming from elsewhere.

    As for “world’s first online gaming community” you have got to be joking. A very quick bit of searching shows that Richard Bartle was running an online game back in 1980.

    This guy is reaching for a “killer app” and what he comes up with doesn’t even check out. I’ll buy D-link thanks.

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      wsDK_II

      Friday, February 4, 2011 at 7:22 AM

      “popular consumer passtime”…..

      really…

      it is more like

      “National sport followed more closely then AFL in australia”

      I have spent alot of time in Korea and i can tell you that insulting starcraft is the same as someone insulting your wife!

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    Glen davies

    Thursday, February 3, 2011 at 11:00 PM

    And those technical inovations that are yet to be created are going to be made because austalia has a nbn. All 20 million of us. I don’t think some.
    It would be more sensible to wait for some bigger markets to make their move and then follow.
    Could you imagine if mr conroy is spending $30,000,000,000 on betmax technology
    Personally i would trust mr conroy with petty cash

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      boc

      Friday, February 4, 2011 at 8:06 PM

      Which corporation would build a national network just so they can drop a couple of innovations on us? A telco? Telstra, Optus, Vodafone have got that market locked up pretty tight already.

      Infrastructure is the biggest burden preventing innovation deployment. If the government takes care of that then it frees up big/small business to drop their innovation on top of it.

      It doesn’t matter if the innovation is homegrown or imported.

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    Michael Piskun

    Thursday, February 3, 2011 at 11:52 PM

    Was it Stephen Conroys ‘Request for Comment’ that has the Netgear CEO discussing a network that will be predominantly / largely / wholly non-Netgear based?

    I’m personally hanging around for the McDonald’s CEO discussion on the particulars of fine dining :)

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    Maurice Kindermann

    Friday, February 4, 2011 at 12:54 AM

    It would change a lot of things.

    Most importantly, they might bring OnLive to Australia =)

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    Prashyt

    Friday, February 4, 2011 at 9:21 AM

    I Strongly support the “need” of NBN in Australia as ofcourse it has a lot of potential for people in IT Industry to experiment/explore variety of areas.

    People thinking about small things like faster movie downloads n stuff are just not enough technology minded.

    So anyone who opposes for NbN, go jump into the ocean mate.

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    Tom Reynolds

    Friday, February 4, 2011 at 11:39 AM

    Australia’s Spending for 2011
    Welfare 114 Billion
    Defence 21 billion
    Health 56 billion
    Government Services 92 billion
    Education 32 billion

    NBN 3 billion

    QLD rebuild 4 (first flood) Cyclone ??

    Seriously, get a grip. it’s a drop in the ocean.

    tom

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      boc

      Friday, February 4, 2011 at 8:02 PM

      Welfare is how much? Damn!

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        Tom Reynolds

        Sunday, February 6, 2011 at 11:28 AM

        yep. read all about it: http://www.aph.gov.au/budget/2010-11/content/overview/html/overview_37.htm

        Welfare was 111 billion last fin year and will rise to 114 billion this fin year.

        So NBN is <3% of our welfare budget and <1% of our overall budget. So a big STFU to the haters. I can't understand why Abbott is going on about spending money on wealth creating infrastructure but not going off his brain about the $114 billion we spend on welfare- which offers no tangible benefit (other than stopping kids from dying from 3rd world-like issues)

        T.

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    Ha

    Friday, February 4, 2011 at 7:49 PM

    So this 30 billion people are talking about, well it’s spread over years (I don’t remember how many) but it is expected to return a profit before the end of the complete rollout.

    So I’d say stop complaining. A relatively little amount of money and time for a network that should be able to last for many many years isn’t too bad.

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