Reminder: Give Us Your NBN Questions For Malcolm Turnbull

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In case you missed it yesterday, Shadow Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull has agreed to talk to Giz about the NBN. And we want you guys to ask the questions!

We’re looking for intelligent questions about the NBN, whether it be focussing on why the opposition are so negative about the proposed infrastructure or exactly what the Opposition plans to do to improve the internet infrastructure in this country. You can post your questions in the comments section.

Discuss

(40 Comments)
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    Unfazed

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 12:30 PM

    Hi Malcum,
    My question to you is, should we all buy shares in the NBN like you did?
    I assume you wouldnt naturally sink money into something you wouldnt consider lucrative.
    Will you seek as much information under the GIPA or Freedom of Information act in relation to the governments report on the NBN and will you give it over to Gizmodo and its readers for further scrutiny?

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    Ward Paterson

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 12:40 PM

    The Proposed NBN plan is to cover only 93% of Austraila (and yet the other 7% of tax payers without access are still paying for it). Would the Coalition’s plans to provide similar internet access extend further than this?

    The Labor Party has already proposed to privatise the NBN. To the disgust of many Australians this and was not mentioned at the last election – and basically means we, the taxpayers are paying for its creation, and then the goverment sells it at a profit. If the NBN was to be completed under a Coalition Government (if Labor was removed from power before completion), would the Coalition also take the same path and privatise it?

    How do you see this privatisation affecting competition?

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      Nick Broughall

      Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 12:42 PM

      It may not have been mentioned at the election, but the privatisation has always been a part of the NBN plan…

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      matt

      Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 1:13 PM

      lol, we should only hope its sold for a profit! (if it MUST be sold)

      if the gov spending money is ‘tax payers spending money’ then the gov making money is the ‘tax payers making money’ its a two way street. the gov balance sheet is the tax payers balance sheet.

      its not like all the sales revenue will just be split evenly amounts the members as a pay bonus!

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      Kevin Russell

      Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 2:13 PM

      Just wandering, if the NBN is being payed from a tax payer fund and is then sold for a profit, where does that profit go?

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        Ward Paterson

        Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 4:30 PM

        Pays for 0.1% of the debt created by writing all those $900 cheques during the GFC..

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      StevoTheDevo

      Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 3:01 PM

      The Coalition have form in selling off a Governement owned Monopoly Telco under less than desirable terms to the Australian people.

      Privatisation of the NBN has always been sold as a long term prospect.
      The Optical Fibre will connect 93%, the remaining 7% will also be serviced either by Sattelite or by Wireless service. The NBNCo will control the Sattelite and Wireless access as well.
      Where have you been living since NBN2 was announced Ward? These are well publicised facts!

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        Ward Paterson

        Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 4:28 PM

        Well publicised facts? So well publicised that the average joe has no idea whats going on, what we’re getting, and how much it costs. Even the Labor Government can’t decide just how much its really going to cost the tax payers.

        The general NBN details about at the moment outline 93% coverage of the population and without mentioning sat or wireless coverage.

        Maybe you have your ear to the ground and the NBN is your hobby STDevo, just face the fact that 92.99% of the population have no idea what the NBN is all about, and that includes the Labor Government.

        Its like the first attempt at the GST all over again. Poor details, poor implementation, poor leadership. I wonder how many Australians the installation of this NBN is going to kill….

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        Thomas Hambleton

        Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 4:39 PM

        @Ward Paterson

        You’re entitled to your opinion, but not entitled to your ignorance. If you want to find out more about the NBN all you need to do is go to the NBNCO’s website and take a look at the “our network” section. (http://www.nbnco.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/main/site-base/main-areas/our-network)

        I agree with StevoTheDevo, these facts have been out and about since the original plan was scrapped in favour of the fibre network. If you want to know more just do the legwork and go to the website. Don’t blame other people for not serving the information up to you on a silver platter.

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      Ward Paterson

      Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 4:19 PM

      I dare say, had this very issue of “privatisation” been let to the public prior to the election, the outcome would have been very different indeed….

      Just goes to show that the balance of power resides in the realms of disclosure….

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        The Cracks

        Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM

        Just because you can’t be bothered to find the information doesn’t mean that the government is hiding it. As said above, the information has been available for a while now. Next time, have a look around before complaining.

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        David Shears

        Friday, November 26, 2010 at 2:46 AM

        Ward, The fact the NBN was intended to be privatised was mentioned about 2 minutes and 16 seconds into its introduction by Kevin Rudd in 2009. It was said that private sector money is welcome and that the majority of NBNco would be sold off somewhere down the line. The conclusion you made that that 93% of the country does not know about it if true (which I highly doubt) can only mean that the people of whom you speak either do not care enough about the topic to find out the facts ergo, do not deserve to be outraged or formed their entire opinion before they discovered facts so that they can mould the facts into their pre-judged opinion

        As for what the selling of NBNco shares at a profit means. This entirely depends on how much profit is made and who is in power when it comes time to spend that money. Rest assured, it can be said that typically that the more money the government has, the better it is for its citizens (more money means less taxes and/or more benefits for the people). In case you’re wondering, Politicians don’t take a cut of the profit (other than their federally mandated salary)

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      klaw

      Friday, November 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM

      Ward, your first point isn’t actually correct. The NBN will give broadband coverage to 100% of Australians. 93% will get fibre, a further 4% will get fixed wireless, and the final 3% will get satellite.

      All of these products will cost the same, for the same speeds, on the base product. Those on fibre will be subsidising those on wireless and satellite, which are obviously more expensive to deliver.

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    Confused

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 12:46 PM

    Hi,
    Will the NBN also mean that internet filter?

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      Thomas Hambleton

      Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 4:43 PM

      No, there is no filtering as a part of the NBN design. The proposed internet filter is a completely separate piece of legislation.

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    Chris

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM

    Hi,
    Will the NBN be offering any graduate positions?

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    Carlos

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM

    Ask some real questions guys, wasting the opportunity.

    I would like to know the proposed schedule for the project, originally Kevin Rudd said 8 years, we are close to half way with apparently nothing achieved, only a business case created half way? What are the project milestones and key deliverables being laid out in this business case?

    I would like to know what this means for current internet providers, will they be able to all equally tap into the network or does the privatization mean only the new company will have complete control of the new infrastructure.

    Lastly, does 93% ensure metropolitan suburbs will be covered and does it mainly exclude rural suburbs?

    -Carlos in the ACT

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      Thomas Hambleton

      Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 5:48 PM

      None of those questions are Malcolm’s domain as he is not currently in the government Carlos. Rest assured, current providers will all have equal access to the network, this is a wholesale only company.

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    Matt

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 1:21 PM

    Why don’t you know the difference between “who’s” and “whose”?

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    sdf

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 1:27 PM

    If it is a bad idea to put this much money into improving Australia’s infrastructure (which translates into improving australia’s money making capability as as other areas) then what is a better way to improve Australia’s infrastructure?

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    robert

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 1:27 PM

    hey my question is about the article stating for the price of the NBN we could have 1 gigabit links, is there or will there be plans in the future for 1gig connections, its an easily reachable speed google is testing this in USA as we speak.

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    andronicus

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 2:07 PM

    My question is…
    If the coalition government was to have gained controlling power at the last election would the proposed downgrading and cost cutting measures promised by Liberals in regards to the NBN actually have been put in place and why this would be done when the rolling out of infastructure had already begun?

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    Rob N

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 2:07 PM

    Under the coalition’s wireless broadband plan, has there been a study on the amount of energy required to transmit wireless internet to 97% of the Australian population? Also how does this compare to energy requirements for the NBN’s FTTH solution not including the energy taken for the initial build? Also with the limited electromagnetic spectrum available for wireless broadband, would there be a need to shrink the mobile cells to reuse the spectrum in built up areas creating the need to build more mobile towers and increasing the population exposure to electromagnetic radiation which may or may not have unknown health consequences?
    Everybody knows the potential that cloud computing has to reduce energy costs for personal/commercial computing by centralising heavy processing, reducing outlay on computer hardware for companies, and maybe even helping people work from home reducing commuting to/from work(further greenhouse gas reductions), how compatible and reliable will the liberals 30-40mb wireless broadband solution be with cloud computing?
    There is currently technology to transmit 100mb/s over a single fibre with ease and 1gb/s,10gb/s even 40gb/s & 100gb/s in transmission lines over one fibre. What current or future technologies are around to increase the bandwidth over wireless in the foreseeable future that wouldn’t require completely scrapping hardware both in transmission personal devices? Is this method enviromentally sustainable/responsible?

    feel free to edit

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    Beckie

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 2:14 PM

    Malcom,
    What do you think of Nick Zenaphons 5 minute back flip on the NBN yesterday. Is this all being rushed to go on the Christmas break ?

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    Phil Collins

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 3:51 PM

    Mr Turnbull,

    Given you and the Liberal Party have declared support for the notion that vertical integration is the real issue in telecommunications – how would you propose dealing with the separation of Telstra in leiu of a significant Government investment in the sector?

    You have suggested a system for broadband that would effectively require an ongoing Budgeted subsidy for regional broadband. If you established this, how would you prevent future Government taking away this Budget commitment?

    Also, how would you ensure the regional subsidy was big enough to prevent perpetuation of the digital divide between metro (commercial) areas and regional (subsidised)?

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    Curtis

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM

    Lord Mayor Campbell Newman has already announced his plans to roll out ‘super-fast broadband’ using Brisbane’s sewer system. However, this is only a 100mbps connnection. So my question is: Will this be upgraded to 1gbps or will Brisbane suffer the impatience of one person?

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    Aus

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 8:30 PM

    Why NBN costing so much when same can be done for much cheaper price in Japan?????? Any body accountable for this

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      Thomas Hambleton

      Friday, November 26, 2010 at 12:41 PM

      Is this a serious question? The entire landmass of Japan fits inside Australia 20.34 times. We are huge!

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    BJ

    Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 11:01 PM

    Seriously, there is no use asking Malcolm any questions about the NBN – Liberal policy is simply to oppose Labor policy no matter what the policy is, then make up the reasons later to suit. Having said that, I certainly wouldn’t be opposed to Malcolm becoming Prime minister one day, he’s a 500% improvement in capability over the nutcase wingnut that’s leading the opposition at the moment.

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    james whatsit

    Friday, November 26, 2010 at 2:19 AM

    malcom, why are you backing wireless so staunchly, especially as it is much more unreliable than FTTH systems and dropouts will be rampant (especially in urban areas)?

    also, what are the upgrade costs going to be on the wireless systems being proposed by the libs (payment for technicians to climb aerial towers etc), and are the wireless systems easily and (relatively)cheaply able to be upgraded (presuming wireless technology improves in the future).

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    David Shears

    Friday, November 26, 2010 at 3:28 AM

    Mr Turnbull,

    Thank you for participating in this forum.

    The broadband plan that your party is proposing suggests that it would be possible to provide end user speeds upwards of 12 megabits per second using significantly less government money. My question is in 2 parts

    First, your plan seems to be at significant disadvantage when compared to the NBN when it comes to actually answering the question “how can we improve the service level of broadband in Australia?”
    Given that your party’s proposal is vague at best and relies on technology that a) has not been invented yet; or b) blatantly ignores the laws of Physics; How are Australian homes and businesses supposed to take your party seriously when you say “We have a solution for broadband”?

    Secondly, what type of legislation if any would your party propose to ensure that minimum service levels would be met by service providers? Would service providers be regulated to ensure these service levels would be met, especially in more remote locations, or would your model be more like it is now where providers are free to offer a “best effort” speed to customers?

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    David Shears

    Friday, November 26, 2010 at 3:53 AM

    Mr Turnbull,

    Thank you for your time.

    If you party is serious about broadband, why did you not re-introduce a fibre to the node network?

    FTTN would at least have given some legitimacy to your promise of 12Mbps minimum and cost wise, it is significantly cheaper than the NBN

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    Low Boon

    Friday, November 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM

    Hi Mr Turnbull,
    My point of view here is. Why are billions proposed being spent on the NBN.
    When most metropolitan areas can get decent ADSL2+ service?
    Shouldn’t fibre be rolled first to rural areas or areas where ADSL2+ is not available?

    What will be done to improve competition amongst existing ISPs and what is the impact on them once the NBN is rolled out ?

    What is the use of all this proposed internet speeds when at the moment most of the plans are capped at some level?
    Its like capping the speed of Ferrari at 80km.

    Thanks

    Boon

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      Thomas Hambleton

      Friday, November 26, 2010 at 12:43 PM

      Why are you asking directions that are relevant to the government of the opposition?

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    gruntled

    Friday, November 26, 2010 at 11:01 AM

    Mr Turnbull,

    I apologise if this is impertinent – my justification is that you must have expected a bit of impertinence when agreeing to answer questions from a geek-infested internet site. So, my questions are:

    1) How does the opposition plan to rebuild credibility with tech-savvy voters who were appalled at Mr Abbott’s 7:30 report “technohead” comment, where it was clear that he lacked even basic understanding of an area of policy that was hotly debated in the election? Or are you happy to just carry on because majority of the public, while sensing that something was amiss, did not realise just how fundamental the level of ignorance displayed was?

    2) How do you feel about being at the forefront of the opposition’s campaign to derail – at all costs – genuinely good initiatives being proposed by the government, rather than playing an active role in their success by scrutinising and improving them, and ensuring that there are safeguards in place to keep them on track (the model of opposition you at least partially subscribed to while leader of the opposition, a model which is decidedly out of favour at the moment)?

    3) (Waving shiny pocket watch in front of Mr Turnbull eyes to induce a hypnotic state devoid of prepackaged spinlines) Honestly, doesn’t it just kill you that you can’t be the one implementing this exciting visionary policy initiative, getting your hands dirty, watching the project succeed, rather than being the battering ram of a blunt and unashamedly deceptive force?

    4) Do you believe that there are many people who do not realise that the “We need a business case document” with a subsequent “The business case is not made out by the business case document” is corporatese for “This would be a feather in someone else’s cap, and I am therefore strongly against it”?

    5) Do you believe that the good you’re hoping to do as the some-day leader of the some-day Liberal government outweighs the damage being done through the cynical attacks and stalling tactics that you are a key part of today on the proposals for a better future in the areas of technology and environment?

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    RedWolf

    Friday, November 26, 2010 at 3:02 PM

    Dear Malcolm,

    Why do you insist on perpetrating the ridiculous claim that wireless technology is an *alternative* to a broadband network?

    Anyone with even the most basic technological knowledge will realize that 3G/4G wireless technology is a way of connecting to a tower which is linked to the broadband network. Without mentioning all the other shortcomings of this technology (like concurrency issues, range issues, weather dependence, etc) – it still needs a backbone to connect to, and if that backbone is copper it will never handle as much bandwidth as fiber.

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    Simon

    Sunday, November 28, 2010 at 12:26 AM

    Hi Malcolm,

    Won’t Australia need to have a huge backbone to the rest of the world to make the NBN work for us? The NBN isn’t just a national network. Has the opposition got plans to create a large backbone?

    :-)

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      David Shears

      Monday, November 29, 2010 at 8:03 PM

      Simon, Currently Australia’s International Bandwidth caps out at roughly 300Gb/s. Out International capacity is around th 5Tb/s mark. Even with a 10x increase of usage, we are more than covered.

      The reason we get such low speeds on single stream transfers to the US has less to do with international bandwidth and more to do with the IPv4 protocol and our geographical distance from the USA.

      With a faster network and more and more of us adopting IP tech (video, teleconferencing) we will discover that more and more companies will invest in hosting stuff here. This is already happening in the TV on demand space with groups like foxtel and fetch tv offering tv on demand services as well as skype offering more and more sophisticated teleconferencing services here.

      The good news on our international speeds is that more and more services use udp as a transmission spec (for video) which means that faster speeds are possible. for more mission critical data, a multi-stream approach is often used to increase speeds (a single steam often caps out around the 3-5Mbps mark).

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    Andy

    Monday, November 29, 2010 at 2:41 PM

    Mr Turnbull,

    Under your wireless plan, have you taken into consideration the near bankruptcy, and death of all online games in Australia? Considering wireless has a ping of around 300, and fluctuates constantly, it would be impossible for gamers to play online. Given the recent announcement that Call of Duty grossed more money on launch day than any film ever has, this is a serious risk on a community & financial level that would have massive consequences.

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    Martin

    Thursday, January 6, 2011 at 10:00 AM

    so what happened, did the interview happen?

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