
Last week we posted an eBay auction where the seller—an ex-employee of Apple—was selling a broken step from the Fifth Ave New York Apple store. Threatened with legal action, he was forced to remove it. Here’s his story.
Hi. Iʼm Mark Burstiner. I host a show called The Circuit. Iʼm an all around geek, Iʼm a project manager on a freelance basis, and I consult in digital strategy. I want to talk to you about a story thatʼs still unfolding.
It may seem trite, but for me, itʼs about the principle at this point. I also want to thank Gizmodo for taking this story, and allowing me to publish it in my own words. Multi billion dollar corporations should not be able to bully an innocent ex-employee into cooperation, especially when the corporations are at fault.
A year and a half ago, I was an Apple employee at the Fifth Ave flagship store. In that time, there was a silly, unfortunate accident. A woman came down the magnificent spiral staircase, and dropped a Snapple bottle. Yes, a Snapple bottle. After bouncing once or twice, the bottle severely cracked one of the steps. Since these steps are so well engineered, the structural integrity of the step wasn’t compromised, but it was certainly a cosmetic problem. Later that month, four or five very big men came to replace the step with a new one. After they were finished, and the steps that were replaced were out on the curb, I left the store. Off the clock and in civilian clothes, I asked the contractors who were there on behalf of Seele, the manufacturer, if I could have a step. “It could be a collectible some day,” I said. They, of course, saw no problem with it, and even collectively helped me lift it into a vehicle. That is the story of how I came to be in possession of a step from the spiral staircase at Apple Fifth Ave.
Fast forward to six days ago, February 20, 2010. Iʼve been cleaning up my apartment, because Iʼm going to be moving soon, and I realised I really didn’t want to move (for the third time) with this step. It should be about time I put it up on eBay, see if anybody wants it and see if I canʼt make some cash to help with moving at the same time. That makes sense, right? I mean people end up with rare memorabilia all the time. After all, I did procure it through totally legitimate means. I asked for permission from the person whoʼs possession it was in. They helped me lift it into the vehicle for chrissakes. We should be all hunky dory, right? Wrong.
The very next day, the eBay posting got a lot of press, and it even ended up here on the Giz. Not 24 hours later, the stair was up to $US255, dozens of eBay questions, and 200+ watchers with 9 days to go on the auction. Things were looking good until I was reached out to by a Seele VP. This gentleman informed me that Apple has caught wind of this and is quite unhappy. He requested I remove the eBay listing so that we may work this out when we both had more time. Of course, Iʼm a reasonable guy, so I complied immediately.
Later that same day, we spoke again. He assured me he was doing me a favour by reaching out to me and requesting that I remove the posting and return the glass step. He repeatedly made the point that if I complied that he would be so kind as so email Apple and tell them Iʼve been cooperative. “Oh, how magnanimous of you,” I thought to myself. As tempting as it might be to relinquish what is now my property, I passed on the offer.
The VP continuously threatened me with “thousands of dollars in legal fees” because both Seele and Apple would not hesitate to take legal action. Even after repeated explanations of how I came into possession of the step, he continued to mitigate for Apple and attempt to make the point that it was Appleʼs position that since I was on Apple payroll as an employee (part-time, non-exempt, off the clock, out of uniform), that requesting the step was on par with giving a direct order to the contractor. That, if you will pardon my language, is bullshit. I donʼt buy it. He proceeded to assure me that Apple would take the position that anything that began in its stores is Appleʼs property. Frankly, Apple can take any stance they like, it doesn’t change the facts.
This man then attempted to convince me that if I were to move forward with not relinquishing the step, that it would be my responsibility in a court of law to prove that I had not stolen it. This, again, is bullshit. In the United States, we are innocent until proven guilty. If Apple would like to attempt to prove that I managed to wrestle a 250lb (113kg) step from the five very large men handling it, then they are on the good drugs, and I want to know where I can get some.
What this sounds like to me is Seele trying to save face because Apple is furious that they were irresponsible enough to relinquish ownership of the tread. Though it may be embarrassing for both corporations, it may simply be a lesson learned at a high price. Let me put it this way: If you caught a foul ball at a World Series game, got it signed by a player, received a high five from the security guard on the way out of the stadium, and went home, that ball is now yours, right? It started as one entityʼs property, and through a series of consensual transactions, it ended up in your hands. Now, letʼs say a year and a half later, the player who signed it is huge, and you decide to put it up for auction. If the MLB reached out to you and said, “Hey! No way, buddy. That was OURS. Hand it over!” Guess what? That wouldn’t fly.
The next day, we spoke once more over the phone. Again, I heard the same points from the man, but this time I did not take a passive approach. I made it quite clear that if he wanted the step, heʼs more than welcome to purchase it from me, or participate in the eBay auction. He made me an offer lower than the most recent bid on the auction, and I declined. At this point, Iʼve lost time and money due to dealing with this. Not to mention, now that the step has seen some press, the demand is growing. (Iʼve been receiving eBay messages all the way up until this morning.) He assured me if I did not comply, my information would be forwarded to Apple, and the conversation ended.
As far as Iʼm aware, I have done nothing illegal. I have not stolen. I have not deceived in any way. The step is not confidential, and it is not IP. The step is the very same that any New Yorker could see by walking into Apple Fifth Ave. The only thing I am guilty of is taking the risk of throwing out my back through having to move the step multiple times. I saw an opportunity, I asked for permission, received it, and proceeded. I wonʼt allow a major corporation to bully me into a corner. At the time of this posting, it has been seven full days since I put the listing up, and I havenʼt heard from Apple directly a single time. I have every right to sell my property, and I plan to do so.
Hereʼs what Iʼm going to do. Iʼve put the tread back up for auction, but have shortened the auction period from 10 days to 3, starting at the same $US200 price point and Iʼm dropping the buy-it-now option. I just want to get rid of this thing. If it sells for a lot, great. If it sells for a little, whatever. Either way, Iʼll keep you posted if I hear from Apple or on any other developments.
I realise this has been long-winded, but it was important to me to share this. I just donʼt think itʼs right for corporations to take cases that might otherwise be passed off as trivial and turn them into a week-long ordeal, all for the sake of paranoia. If youʼve read through all this, thank you. I appreciate your attention and time.


















Alan
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 11:19 AMIt sucks that it is so easy for corporations to bully the little guy.
Matt
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 11:33 AMGood on you mate. I wish you well. True that people can walk into the Apple store to see the stair. And they can also freely look up the patent application online that details its construction. I hope you don’t wake up tomorrow with a horse’s head in in your bed.
Jester
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 11:55 AMGood for you, I couldn’t agree with you more. If this does take the course of a legal confrontation, I’d suggest setting up a donations link so that people can make contributions to your costs.
Josh
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 11:59 AMUS $2,550.00?
wow..
Nathan
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:26 PMI bet they are so precious about the stairs, because Steve hand crafted them from Unicorn tears he personally collected.
By the way 250 pounds is only about 113 kilos. 225 kilos would be about 496 pounds!
Nick Broughall
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 1:35 PMI have no idea whatsoever how I stuffed that up. Fixed!
Darius
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 2:09 PMUS $6,300.00!!!
for a broken step?
geez fanboys what are you spending your money on?
Andy Rogers
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 10:49 PMSteps, apparently…
Chris Parkinson
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 2:13 PMHoly Cow. $US6300 as at 2:00PM Monday Aus time. Way to go Mark. I hope it sells for double that. It’s truly sad how some corporations are so innately greedy, not to mention so intent on making sure their “rights” aren’t violated, that they would have someone call you up 1.5 years later claiming ownership. Truly pathetic.
Whoever handles Apple’s PR should have advised them that inviting bad press over a broken step represents new levels of stupidity.
Frogztar
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 2:26 PM$6,300… wow. I think Seele may have shot themselves in the foot by giving it all this publicity. Awesome example of the ridiculousness of some corporations though; ITS A BROKEN GLASS STEP! Seele…. *facepalm*
olearymo
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 2:40 PMWow.
Are we sure the guy calling is actually legitimately involved with Apple? My first thought is that Apple actually doesn’t care, and that the guy’s a con.
Unless Steve himself calls, I’m not sure I’d be convinced.
Way to go standing up to them, mate. In Australia this is a culturally important thing to do, and I’m sure all Giz Au readers are 100% behind you.
stevjosco
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 3:24 PMI say that if Mark is threatened with legal action then a protest be staged at the 5th Ave store.
I’m thinking a bunch of angry geeks standing on the glass staircase each holding Snapple bottles would get the message across :D
Liam
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 3:57 PMUS $6,300.00
far out, some people really love apple :S
tsengan
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 9:29 PMGood on you. I hope it sells for heaps. Those stairs annoy me, so I’m glad to see someone (that isn’t Apple) get some benefit out of it.
Mark Harvey
Monday, March 1, 2010 at 10:54 PMFrom day one I have admired that wonderful glass spiral stair, an engineering wonder. I say give it to big jobbies, it belongs to them, they paid for it,they can look at it and ponder its use as a tanslucent backlit paperweight or return it to grains of sand maybe, or is it finders keepers ?
William Irving
Tuesday, March 2, 2010 at 1:09 AMWOOOW with 1.5 days to go its at US $7239
seriously i recon the VP realised that there was money in that step and spend a week trying to get it off you cheap so he could sell it on and make money later. bet you he hasnt even got in contact with apple who probably dont even give a crap.
John Kirkham
Tuesday, March 2, 2010 at 10:28 AMThe Seele VP realises that next time they won’t get the contract from Apple.
In fact, the stuff would likely belong to the insurance company. I did glazing work for a short period and glass that fell out of multi storey buildings was kept for examination. The installers should’ve taken the glass away since leaving it out on the street is a stupid idea.
Frogztar
Tuesday, March 2, 2010 at 11:21 AM1 day left and it’s $9,950. Srsly want some broken Apple store furniture so I can retire