iTunes 9: Everything You Need to Know
Yeah, so all those reports about a new scheme to “stimulate sales of CD-length music” were true, and then some: On top of extras with for albums and movies, iTunes 9 comes with media sharing (!) and iPhone app management. Updated with walkthrough gallery.
Here’s what’s new in the most significant upgrade to iTunes in years:
iTunes LPs: These are effectively like bonus CDs for digital albums. Each one comes with extra tracks only get if you plunk down nearly $20 on the whole album—you can’t download the bonuses on their own. Along with that, you get video content—in most cases, live concert recordings—as well as photo albums and lyrics, which serve as sort of modern-day liner notes, I guess? The description also mentions even more tracks, none of which are listed, downloadable or not, in the normal iTunes panel. So, it’s sort of like buying one of those loaded-up “Digipack” CDs people used to release, except on iTunes. Many albums come with a special display mode, so all this fancy new content isn’t just dump into iTunes’ regular audio and video browsers.
iTunes Extra: Like iTunes LPs for films, this gives you a downloadable equivalent of DVD extras, with interviews, extra clips and photo galleries. Some of the extras, like the ones for Wall-E shown here, are a little more interactive, and have their own full interface.
A New Store: As for the store itself, all content is now organised in a new iTunes interface, which looks a lot more like a software interface, and less like a heavily-formatted webpage. For example, you can now quick-view albums, which opens a Preview-style windows that lets you see what’s behind a given link in the store, and there’s an ever-present menu bar that lives up top, replacing the cumbersome breadcrumb navigation that was there before.
Media Sharing: The software’s getting some pretty fantastic new functionality outside the store as well—we’ve got media sharing, at least on your local network: You can copy songs, movies, and TV shows to up to five authorised computers, or simply stream them. This is pretty huge, and a definite about-face for Apple, who’s been stripping out sharing functionality from iTunes for a while.
An App Manager: On the iPhone/iPod front, now you can rearrange and manage apps from iTunes, which was one of those stupid-simple feature upgrades people (and by people, I mean we) have been clamouring for for months. Apple’s version of the app manager is more well thought out than the concepts we’ve seen before, which were already droolworthy. Apps can be dragged and dropped, either alone or in groups, and selectively synced. Awesome.
Syncing, Genius and Social Networking: A few odds and ends here—iTunes 9 also brings finer sync controls, including options to sync genres or artists, instead of just playlists. New “Genius Playlists,” which are just general library mixes that iTunes thinks you’ll like, rathers that the old Genius playlists, which were based on a particular artist. Social networking support is nowhere near as deep as rumoured—it just gives you shortcuts to spam your friends with links to iTunes store pages over Twitter, et al. Apple’s also thrown in a little treat for Windows users: Playback controls from the Windows 7 task bar.—Thanks, Daniel!
The Palm Pre: No longer works. Soon, it probably will again, then a few months later, Apple will break it with another update. And so on, forever.
To put this another way, iTunes, did you just get good?
UPDATE: Here’s a walkthrough gallery, for the best of what’s new in iTunes 9
The store has seen a general redesign as well—the most prominent part being the ever-present menubar at the top, which replaces the awkward breadcrumb system from before.
The whole interface has been refreshed oh-so-slightly, with the artist browser pushed to the left, and the colour of the app chrome—the outer shell, basically—has been lightened.
iTunes Extras are available for select films, and include a variety of bonus content, roughly inline with a solid bonus DVD. Some of it can only be viewed in iTunes, through specially designed, per-title interfaces.
iTunes LP provides bonus materials for albums, with a sort of “digital liner note” conceit. The packages are a bit expensive, but the addition of video content and extra songs, on top of lyrics and artwork, could make these things worthwhile.
Easily the best feature in the release: You can now organise iPhone apps on your phone from within iTunes, as well as selectively sync them. Long time coming, but a great implementation.
Now, back to the store: Clicking on an item now opens a preview window, a la, uh, Preview. Saves a couple clicks, I guess.
The albums pages are also cleaned up and smoothed out, such that they look a little more Apply, and a little less like they’re part iTunes 8 a crappy web portal
Genius Mixes are barely a new feature, but hey: They’re custom mixes drawn from the ether by iTunes’ Genius feature, which previously constructed playlists from single songs.
One of the best new search features is a categorisation sidebar, which replaces the awkward results panels of yore.
The new search engine looks quite a bit better, but it’s hard to really tell if it is.
Sharing! You can share music and video over iTunes locally, between up to five authorised PCs. The biggest change from old, crippled sharing? You can actually copy content, or just stream it.
But hey, no need to spend any more time clicking through galleries about iTunes when you can just download it. Which, you can.
iTunes 9 is available today, as is plenty of iTunes LP and Extra content.
Apple Premieres iTunes 9
Featuring iTunes LP, Home Sharing, Genius Mixes & Improved Syncing
SAN FRANCISCO, Sept. 9 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ — Apple® today introduced iTunes® 9, the latest version of the world’s most popular software application to purchase, manage and play media, packed with innovative features such as iTunes LP, Home Sharing and Genius Mixes, as well as a redesigned store and improved syncing. iTunes 9 makes it easier than ever to discover, purchase and enjoy your music, movies, TV shows, and apps for iPhone(TM) and iPod touch® from Apple’s revolutionary App Store. Plus, Home Sharing now lets you easily transfer songs, movies and TV shows to other computers in your home.
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“iTunes 9 is a great iTunes release, with innovative features that make using iTunes better than ever and iTunes content richer than ever,” said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO. “iTunes LP, for example, lets artists share more of their creativity with fans and gives music lovers the feeling of being immersed in an entire album with art, lyrics, liner notes, photos and videos.”
iTunes LP is the next evolution of the music album delivering a rich, immersive experience for select albums on the iTunes Store by combining beautiful design with expanded visual features like live performance videos, lyrics, artwork, liner notes, interviews, photos, album credits and more. iTunes LP debuts today with albums including Bob Dylan’s “Highway 61 Revisited,” Norah Jones’ “Come Away With Me,” The Grateful Dead’s “American Beauty” and Dave Matthews Band’s “Big Whiskey and the GrooGrux King: iTunes Pass.” The new iTunes Extras provides a similar experience for movies on iTunes with features including documentaries, deleted scenes, interviews and interactive galleries. iTunes Extras is now available for select movies including “Twilight,” “Batman Begins,” “WALL-E,” “Iron Man” and “The Da Vinci Code.” Customers can enjoy iTunes LP and iTunes Extras on a Mac® or PC.
iTunes 9 also introduces Home Sharing, which lets you easily transfer music, movies and TV shows among up to five authorized computers in your home. Family members can now view up to five iTunes libraries on their home network, see only the portion of these libraries they don’t already have, import their favorite content directly to their own libraries, and automatically add new purchases from other computers into their library.
The incredibly popular Genius feature gets even better with Genius Mixes which are created using the results of over 27 million music libraries with over 54 billion songs that have been submitted and analyzed by Genius. The new Genius Mixes feature is like having a “Genius” DJ that automatically generates up to 12 endless mixes of songs from your iTunes library that go great together.
With improved syncing in iTunes 9 and iPhone OS 3.1, you can now organize your iPhone apps right in iTunes and they will automatically appear on your iPhone with the same layout. Plus, syncing music, photos, movies and TV shows is easier than ever with the added ability to sync music by artist and genre and sync photos by Events and Faces. The iTunes Store on iPhone now features precut ringtone downloads with over 20,000 ringtones priced at just $1.29.
iTunes 9 is available immediately as a free download at www.itunes.com.
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Hahahahaha yeah okay. I'll pay $17 for that if it can also give me the best blowie of my life.
@Jimmy1: You said it. When they revamped iTunes plus last year, I couldn't believe they didn't just do 256kbps, or 320. Why make it so incremental?
Or you could get a dimebag and a pack of cigarettes and listen to the copy you already have...
So, 16.99 for a lossy album? Pfft. I could just head on over to a retailer and buy the actual CD for half that. And I can rip it in FLAC.
Over at Amazon a new CD of Highway 61 is $7 and change, and a used one is around $4 (once I rip it in lossless to my hard drive, I'll likely never look at the CD again, so used CDs are a good deal).
Jimmy1
@switchblade saints: yeah, maybe on sale - or a platinum super-saver/mnstrm classic.
@Yarr!: well this news in particular is kind of boring. nothing to do with timing.
deliciousburglar
@tawni: Nah, audiophiles want it on vinyl. They always whine and complain about the iTunes bitrate being insufficient for their refined ears.
Nathan Obbards
Wow. $16.99 for an album and you get no physical disc or liner notes. As switchblade just said, it takes me back, too.
Wow, that's a great album. I've got it on CD/vinyl, and I've been hoping for a new authentic/consumer/product way to buy/consume/buy the music that I use to express my individuality/cultural-aptitude/sexual-fitness.
Thanks record companies, I always knew you loved me.
Lyrics?
"Here's what we see: there are a few tracks in the listing that you can only get if you BUT the whole album."
I'm not sure what this means, and I am even less sure I want to do this to get the whole album!
mykalt45
@wilson_c: NEIN!
@OMG! Ponies!:
*now with liner notes
haha
@OMG! Ponies!: So you'll be upgrading to iTunes v.Nein right away then?
@tawni: Yes, because what every audiophile needs is yet another 30year-old bootleg recording of Dylan singing "Maggie's Farm" live.
16.99 for a cd? That takes it back to the long-box days
Today will be known as "The Day The Internet Was Taken Over By Angry Germans".
Nein! Nein! Nein!
Audiophiles rejoice while the rest of us can yawn...
I don't care about multimedia crap, I just want the music cheap!
JessicaAiPhone
$17 bucks hardly seems worth it for an extra song or two and videos you could probably find on youtube.
designedbymatty
Is it just me or is it kinda boring that most of the interesting news at the event have already leaked?
@OMG! Ponies!: why do I feel like listening to Rammstein all of a sudden?
Parapraxis
@blash: BTW I'm talking about the Steam method of distribution here - DRM that generally works. And if that DRM allows me to redownload as many times as I want, to many computers, instead of a one-time download without any DRM, then fuck yeah IMO.
blash
Album only tracks are nothing new on the iTunes store. They've been there since the beggining (together with multiple album art pictures).
The bundled videos are new, however. Not exactly a new album format, but yeah, might be enough to drive some people into buying full albums instead of selected tracks.
@trevisol: didn't they do 256kbps?
Yeah that's bullshit. If it was for lossless audio (even ALAC), and I could download it as many times as I wanted (but only 5 computers at a time or whatever), then I might do it.
Even for imported music with high tarriffs, I'm paying $20 a CD - most domestic stuff is much less. I get lossless quality and something I can rip from as many times as I want in case my hard drive fails. iTunes has nothing on that.
blash
apple tax strikes again!
xblindx
The thing that bothers me the most about Apple is the way they nickel and dime you for everything.
LEWD98
@pliable: Seriously. I'll pay the $17 if Bob Dylan will come to my apartment and sing a duet of 'Like a Rolling Stone' with me.
Jimmy1
They need to be offering the LP to draw people to digital sales, by offering the same content on CD's, at a lower price. Not a higher one.
That way you can combat piracy, while getting people to buy "whole" album's again.
Daveed
@mat: Yeah. But then the album jacket gets covered in scratches because the guy I bought from on a recommendation gave me a shitload of seeds-and-stems.
Let's hope iTunes 9 is less crashtastic and takes less than 45 minutes to start and display info. I could care less about albums - just buy the CD as others said...lossless, drm-free, backup, etc.
astrocramp
Have they damn lighented it so it doesn't CRUSH memory using Windows?
Alan Wood
@blash: Exactly. My hard drive recently went kaput and hadn't been backed up in a while. I thought I would be fine since all my recent stuff was from itunes.... but no. at least $300 worth of tv shows and movies gone for good. If it was more like steam, I wouldn't have had to resort to torrenting again.
njdevil
That iPod screenshot in iTunes reminds me of the days of iFuntastic, with the icons containing the tiles to make the background different. Ahhh, simpler (or not so simpler) times.
saycarramrod
my download of iTunes 9 just stopped, and now the download page isn't showing the link anymore... :(
Overall, I'm pretty stoked about iTunes 9. It looks like a legitimate update, even if Apple did finally relent on the social networking front (well, to some extent), which wouldn't be so bad if the applicable services weren't so inundated and unwieldy -- but that's besides the point.
One thing I'd like to know is whether in lieu of the renewed emphasis on ringtones, they have killed the nifty little .m4a ~ .m4r trick. I sincerely hope not, and if I find out that's the case, it'll be a bit before I update for having to create as many ringtones as possible.
Loved:
App management! YES!
True sharing (copying) of songs!
Hate:
Social networking integration -- but that's not because of iTunes.
No camera on the touch. Not applicable to this discussion, for certain, but I just can't get over what a huge disappointment that is.
3.1 update is available through iTunes. iTunes 9 is not showing up in software update yet.
@J0hnP: They really need folders. It would be so simple to implement too.
The5thElephant
@mricyfire: Indeed! Let the server crashing begin!
Darwinist
it's up on their site for download now...
Corey Lake
more bloat to slow itunes down even more...I'm never updating itunes again.
logicalnoise
now available!!
mricyfire
App Management!
My prayers have been answered.
And by prayers, I really mean all the muttered curses when trying to move an app from page 6 to the front page.....
Hmmm...I don't see iTunes 9 available on Apple's site, or when I do a Help.Check For Updates in my iTunes 8.2.1. Maybe it's not available today, despite the article's claims?
J0hnP
Well, apple just created a new batch of pirates.
teke367
I still wish there were "folders" or some way to organize applications beyond the flat "page" structure. I have more than 144 apps, and I'd like to be able to install them all.
J0hnP
Does Itunes 9 support folder monitoring yet, this is the most import feature for me
Got it up and running! Seems to be much more smooth...and I'm using a PowerPC! One thing I'm not liking so far - the new controller bar. It seems to be a little to minimalist for me. Hell, what am I saying, It's Apple!
Adam Kilker
@Ike_Skelton: i feel the same way.
@psychiccheese: There are plenty of lighter media sharing options out there. itunes is a drug. I hate it, but I have to keep reinstalling it for one thing or another.
@jrronimo:
Seems to be snappier in OS X. Haven't booted into Windows 7 yet to try it.
@[www.apple.com]
Um, does it support coherent tagging yet, or am I going to continue to have ID2/ID3 issues when I switch from iTunes to foobar? Nothing you've listed is of any interest to me - iTunes is a bloated monster I use only because of my iPod, I hardly have any interest in updates to the store I don't use.
ArrEmmDee
Now, I don't own an iPod, or buy music online, and I currently use winamp for all my musical needs. The media sharing feature looks somewhat useful/interesting, but I doubt it's worth it to switch just for that. Can anyone give me a good reason to make the switch to iTunes?
psychiccheese
"Each one comes with only get"?
The top bar (where the play buttons are, etc.) on the mac version is very contrasty, soft and ugly. I like the new sliders and the half-circles for unfinished podcasts, though.
dcsears
@logicalnoise: Bring back Wagon Train!
Nothing in this description of updates leads me to believe I need to upgrade my iTunes.
Ike_Skelton
I just installed iTunes 9 and noticed something new when I check my iPhone and that is a new tab called iTunes U. Anyone know what iTunes U is?
@Bill Zanetti: The good Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
@StumbleUponTHIS: Well, you can avoid the dictatorship by just buying it from Amazon and importing it into iTunes.
@OMG! Ponies!: He gave you a shitload of seeds-and-stems because you gave him 16 dollars.
Just installed 9. WTF!? They made everything overly bright.
Anyone have a Pre? Does this new version of iTunes break Pre Syncing?
Bill Zanetti
@OMG! Ginsu!: no, trying to download them simultaneously. I cancelled my 9 dl to try and do one thing at a time.
Now I think I'll just wait until a bit later when the load isn't so heavy on both servers.
ugh. 42 minutes til 9's done downloading? WHAT THE F, DAVID BLANE? WHERE'S MY DOWNLOAD? PUT IT BACK RIGHT NOW!!!!
Does the Media Sharing function work over a vpn network (Hamachi or hardware), that is the real question. If it does, then yay.
jesusio
@jakebathman: do you actually have 9 running already?
downloading 3.1 is taking forever too
@logicalnoise: Seriously. Any word on making this even slightly functional for Windows users or will we have to use this, as I have been, for syncing with Apple products only?
New features are great and all, but does it suck less in Windows?
I really don't like waiting 15 seconds before the UI is even responsive when I click on my iPod Touch.
jrronimo
i'm stalled out downloading too. Looks like apple fall down go boom.
@Alan Wood: Nope, you need 512MB of RAM and 1GB is required to play HD video, an iTunes LP, or iTunes Extras.
@Parapraxis: I'm listening to them now even though I don't even have Rammstein song in my laptop... weird...
@jakebathman: yeah, looks like everyone that helped crash the liveblog turned around and crashed Apple's server...
Sigh. Won't work on my iMac G3.
Anyone else having problems downloading? I got to about 26MB and the download stalled and won't progress any further.
@J0hnP: You need to go to the site. Now!
Awesome...it is now impossible to download Desolation Row without buying the entire album. What's next? I have to buy an entire Fog Hat album to get Fool for the City? It's the beginning of the end, people!
StumbleUponTHIS
Does anyone else read this as being a bunch of updates to the BACKEND of the software (the iTunes store itself) and then some more feature bloat on an already unwieldy piece of software? Don't get me wrong, some of the new features are great/needed for those who need them - namely App management for iPhone/iTouch users - but I don't see anything that will bring me back from other media players anytime soon.
As for the sharing, that's a big fat "meh". How many of us actually KEEP our music in a DRM format, regardless of how it was packaged when we purchased it? Shared network drives, flash drives, etc...all solutions that don't tie you to specific software.
MTBVibe
is genius borked for everyone else out there?
@Bill Zanetti: According to the article, Pre syncing is broken again. Palm was supposed to release WebOS 1.2 yesterday. Maybe they delayed to get sync fixed. really don't care, don't use itunes much.
Downloaded and playing with the iTunes 9. So far I am impressed with the speed of switching between the different library categorizes. It is now lagging like the old versions despite the bloat.
flyingeagle78
It absolutely boggles my mind that they still refuse to add the ability to monitor folders for new media files like EVERY other player has done since 1934.
Hyperplasia
If by "clamoring for for months" regarding app management you mean since like two months after the app store debuted, then yes, clamoring for for months. I know that was the first time I mentioned it on a talkback. It is one of those little things that Apple should have included from the beginning. My main issue with the iphone has been little things like that. They make it frustrating to the point that you go check out an Android phone, and then look at your iphone and realize it is still much better.
SuprXY
@mat: lol'd and follow'd
tehsquish - Still plays Ultima Online
Freakin' finally with the app management.
jedimaster0103
@Parapraxis: I was thinking Hasselhoff.
@Hyperplasia: agreed. totally totally lame.
C'mon! How come iTunes always has to look so inconsistent with the rest of Snow Leopard?! It's so much more shinier than the rest of the UI. Will it finally match in 10.7?!
hmm, yeah. not a single thing on this list makes me want to install this virus for PCs.
i liberated my ipod (now a portable HDD) from that crap ages ago with rockbox. never going back.
Ian Grams
@youkidding: dah. needed to install 3.1
youkidding
@MTBVibe: The media sharing is going to be really useful for me when I travel. Instead of manually digging out content to put on the laptop, or copying the entire iTunes library over, I can just pull what I want to the laptop inside iTunes.
It's also useful for households where people are buying things from the iTunes store from various machines. It includes an option to sync it to the others automatically.
Now the key feature they need to add is an iTunes media server into the Airport. That way, I can just have all my media in one central place easily, and not even need to worry about Wake on Demand to power up the desktop.
drakino
App management screen does not show up when I sync. Reinstalled twice... rebooted iPhone.. Still nada. Am I missing something?
youkidding
apps manager a no show.
youkidding
Installed new iTunes, twice, synced iPhone 3G twice. I do not get the apps manager, just one window showing my apps in a list.. to the right... nada
youkidding
Switching to the miniplayer doesnt work like it used to, with the usual Mac Green + button, If you want to switch to the Miniplayer from the main window you now have to use shift command M. which is very annoying, I often have the miniplayer up the top when im working, it was a single click to switch previously. Anyone know a way round this?
ManiacFive
I'm proud that Apple is just not bending over and letting Palm leach off their software. I know it's a cool feature to have on the Pre, but there are legalities in business. You don't just say your product supports iTunes when the creators of iTunes have control of it.
Palm shot themselves in the ass by adding this support as an official feature because people will be pissed about the unreliability of it.
I love that we can finally manage apps through iTunes, but I was really hoping for an auto-organizer by app usage. Even though this is waaay easier and better than doing it on your phone, I still think it leaves some to be desired.
@Sir Gibler: its working for me. but i can't get to the store. its telling me i need 4.0.3 safari, which i already have.
Kai Chen
And DJ and Genius still don't work on shared libraries.
I was hoping iTunes would integrate streaming using the Spotify APIs, which would give me a reason to boot it up. But... meh.
Andy Channelle
@Hyperplasia: i think they used to allow that, but then lag got terrible with 10gb of stuff in your library that has to be scanned each and everytime itunes starts.
I'm kind of pulling this out of my ass here, but I feel like i remember this from earlier versions of itunes. the really ridiculously laggy versions of itunes.
@flyingeagle78: now or not?
@ManiacFive: dude, cmd and "m" are right next to each other.
@senatormayer: Overly bright, and for some reason I can't seem to view in album/artist/genre mode under the music section anymore. It just defaults to album with no button options. Have they moved? I always used artist view to help condense my library...
benztech55amg
@Hyperplasia: Here here!
benztech55amg
Hee hee...all of you talking about lossless audio make me giggle. It's cute how you think anyone, Apple or otherwise, cares at all about your completely delusional feeling of superiority. Hee hee.
TanyaWenal
Can anyone explain the iPhone Configuration Utility file that is installed with the the new iTunes 9? What is it supposed to be used for?
chanzew
I like the app manager..and ummm...
feezy23
Apple removed the mini player activation feature while clicking on the green button.
Now you have to hold ALT while clicking the button to enable the feauture ! :(
Domogeek
So the shit you get when you buy CD's and DVD's is now available for more money but in digital format but without the versatility and hard copy...right GOTCHA!
Instead of just lowering the prices...which should be .25cents per MP3, the music industry keeps coming up with dumbass gimmicks to try and force crap down consumers throats.
bonedog73
@Norbs:
You're describing every framework or 3rd party product ever built. Think of programming languages; someone's in charge of that shit and it's not necessarily the developer.
@rt¹â°â°: Yeah, I'd like to know as well. The suspense is killing me.
Also, I see talk about media sharing. I'm guessing it still doesn't support DLNA?
dark_quota
Also, no more shopping cart? Why?
ColinRobertson
So I decided to try the LP thing with the DMB album. It downloaded everything BUT the LP (well it downloaded it but had an error). WTF. There goes $20...
ColinRobertson
Lol...just read some people's comments along the lines of "I now have to buy the entire album to get this one song! What's next? It's the beginning of the end!" etc.
Yeah...
...either that, or it's just going back to the way things were before mp3's a few years (ok, quite a few) back when some songs from the album were released as singles, and others weren't.
Hopefully Amazon and others will capitalize on this by offering those songs for individual download instead of as Album only.
mp1gsp
@jrronimo: I'm using it at work the 64 bit version of Win7 and it's MUCH faster than the last version.
There's some talk of jarring chrome, but no talk of the much more jarring removal of the Shopping Cart from the sidebar, and it's replacement Wish List - hidden in tiny letters at the bottom of the Store page - presumably to encourage impulse buying, rather than saving to think about for another time. Also, some messed up sort functionality in the Wish List - the Date Added is definitely not the order in which I had originally added things to my Shopping Cart.
mp1gsp
Did they fix sound check?
Probably not.
Bodie1550
@mp1gsp: However, that's the problem...even when Apple catches up, they are a step behind. They have a phone that can't do MMS yet (and just got the age old voice control that my first phone had), a computer set that doesn't have HDMI, and the knockoff version of their phone is still missing many of the features that people want.
In this day and age, it's downright stupid to make people pay more for music. CD's are relatively low price and torrents *not legal, obviously* are free. As far as the enhanced Video sections, I never really watched them. Apple needs to do a little more innovation and a few steps back on playing catch up. (Though, to be fair, I think the Nano may be talking steps in the right direction)
@rt¹â°â°: That minimizes to the dock. The new command, Cmd-Shift-M, is a little much.
apprehensive
@Domogeek: I know!! Isn't that aggravating?!
Anyone have some terminal fu to fix that?
apprehensive
Is there any way to change the Grid view background back to black!?!
Also, I've noticed that the music cuts out when activating AirTunes speakers. That was seamless for a while. (it could be snow leopard too tho)
apprehensive
@Azraeus: Voice Control on the iPhone is true voice recognition sofware, and it works with your iPod's artists, albums, playlists, etc.
I'd wager your first phone had you recording your own voice...speaking the names of each of your contacts. I've had plenty of phones that did that, and not once did i bother.
That's what makes Apple different, and that's also what pisses people off about them -- they are innovative about the *way* they do things... not necessarily the things they do.
hd72