It's a shame Nintendo have had to go with such a blunt measure on this. Homebrew is not all about piracy at all - many applications fulfil needs and desires of DS owners that Nintendo fails to meet. I own a Cyclo DS Evolution, and I use the paint program Colors on it. It means I have a small digital sketchpad I can take with me all the time, rather than an otherwise bulky paper one with assorted pens or pencils. I understand the piracy problem but surely there must be a more sophisticated and elegant answer to it than this.

[colors.collectingsmiles.com]

Cjay79

@nachobel:
but it's so damn easy already :P

1. Buy FlashCart
2. Load Roms
3. Play Games :D

Derry Quinn

Hey could we get a "DS Homebrew" post akin to the recent Wii Homebrew one? I, for one, would LOVES IT!

nachobel

that's fine, i'm fully expecting there to be an SD card hack to play games directly from that

f0rge

@Scaramanga: Well actually in the GBA's case flashcarts run fine on all 3 iterations.

Nintenboy01

If it had been released in the states, or europe, the card-fix would be out already... But surely next week someone will take care of this...

Thank god Jack Sparrow for PSP hacks always ready just two days after realease...

iam.gmo

expected, same thing happened when the DSi was released. Every new version tries to stop piracy, same goes for the PSP, Gameboy advanced, etc.

Scaramanga

That's adorable.

ArrEmmDee

Give em a week or so. It will crack.

Mr.SithNinja

Heh, should have seen this coming. There'll be a workaround, I'm sure.

TalKeaton

What about the DS-Xtreme?

GameGhost

It'll be a CFW like it is w/ the psp- no more $ made on the carts I am pretty sure

entropyman

@Cjay79:
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Nobody believes you. How about "I own a Cyclo DS Evolution, and I use the paint program Colors on it, and also like to pirate games because it's easy and it's a recession, ya know?"

Derry Quinn

@f0rge: Pretty much this.

I also fully expected none of the cards to work to start with. Someone will find a way to either re-use the old ones thru a SD-hack or combo the 2.

It may help combat piracy for now. The SD-slot is gonna be the major downfall. If a 12 year old only has to move some files to a memory card rather than buy $40-100 worth of extra hardware, its allll over.

Sixxtwo

@TalKeaton: Week??? Give it 3 days at most...

geowrian

@Mr.SithNinja: Yep.

AlanR

No!!!!! Now I wont want to upgrade until there is a way, good going Nintendo.

Adam420

Their biggest mistake was putting a compact flash slot on the device itself. Now pirates have to rely on each other to get their pirate stuff working as opposed to a company that develops and keeps the pirate stuff up to date.

But as the PSP will show you, the pirates are good at what they do.

aurf

@Derry Quinn:

I have an R4. I'd be lying if I said I didn't download a few games here and there as a try before buying deal because hey 30-40 bucks a pop for what could very well be a piece of shit hurts the wallet. I know that piracy looks attractive right now but will eventually hurt the game industry and lead to less games. I also know people rely on this money to live and especially smaller game studios who need sales figures to secure investors or whatever.

But can you guess what my most used apps/games are on the R4? Not any games. I use Moonshell for reading ebooks 90% of the time I turn on my DS. The other 10% is split between wasting time on Animanatee, Colors, a homebrew crossword game, DSOrganize, DSFTP, DSVNC, etc.

There are tons of excellent homebrew titles out there. It's not like the PSP where the homebrew scene is difficult to locate. DS homebrew is thriving and some releases are excellent. Some of the homebrew games are better than commercial releases.

I know everyone will say 'yea yea, you pirate stop trying to justify your filthy piracy' but the stuff above is the truth and I hate to see legit and very useful homebrew threatened because of piracy. There is no way around it though since the key to making homebrew work is the same key used to open the piracy door.

aurf

@Adam420: Well duh, obviously Nintendo doesn't want to make piracy EASIER.

Nintenboy01

@Derry Quinn: lol, fair enough.

Cjay79

well I'll just stick to my big old phat DS till the next generation. Colors! and DScratch are too good to pass, basically they're the only reason I haven't yet sold the bulky monster already.
So I suggest that Nintendo, given its pretty retarded hardware choices, stop this nonsense. Colors! even got tutorial articles on highly respected art magazines like ImagineFX, and Nintendo thinks I will stop drawing just so I can get a 0.3 megapixel camera? Dream on...

JesusDeSaad

If the CycloDS failed, don't expect anything other card not mentioned there to work either. Even the acekard...

I'm predicting actually that it's going to take a PSP approach of hacking the DS through the firmware since it has that sweet SD card ready to be raped like the Wii.

KJA

@GameGhost: and the DSTT (or TTDS, i keep forgetting) and the AceKard 2 ??
list is definately incomplete

still, it's pretty harsh from nintendo

zyberteq

Oh goody, a new challenge!

taodude

and for those who don't think Colors! is good enough a reason to stick to your old DS...
[colors.collectingsmiles.com]

JesusDeSaad

That's okay... I don't really care for what nintendo is trying to push here anyway. Total lackluster upgrade. zzzzzzzzz

aural

dam how dare they take my home brew away ;)

color's rules

still rockin the fat red DS

GDUB

anyone try TTDS??

jspec1594

@JesusDeSaad: don't forget the 3 megapixel camera =P

TheLostVikings

DSReader. That alone would justify the purchase of a DS. You can darn well forget the DSi if there is not DSReader. (DSReader is an ebook reader for text files for the uninformed.)

PigVenus

@GameGhost: or EDGE?

USB_Humping_Dog

@Derry Quinn:

Apparently not for the DSi :D

NeoAkira

another way to fight piracy would be to release games on the ds that people would actually want to pay for.

pyrokotik

DS-Xtreme, DSTT, EDGE... not tested. EDGE might work with a firmware update.

TimotheaBooga

AceKard? Then again, there's always a chance that some homebrew games could be DSware.

TF2Soldier914

@Nintenboy01: Not true. The original CF Supercard will not work with the Gameboy Micro, even though it works with the GBA and GBASP.

markarian