so uh, if i just sent my console in, is it possible that i may get this wondrous addition?

maybe? it would make my xboxless next 3 weeks better.

baconfrenzy

I just wish my launch console had all this new hardware goodness inside; I wouldn't be on my fourth console.

MrMcdoobie: I don't do drugs

i knew the internal flash was coming for the dash update, but its still nice to see them continuing to update the hardware.

d4rlp3nc1l

@iAirmanshirk: It's a lot easier to get friends together to play on a console than to play on your home PC.

NewPerfection

All this sounds great. I was planning on getting me an Xbox for Christmas, but it seems better to wait.

So, any hints about a release date?

berbar

@iAirmanshirk: Maybe because of the cost of building/buying a decent gaming rig?

berbar

Why do people still play consul games? my computer can run games way stronger, and with better controls.

i guess its a personal preference.

iAirmanshirk

So glad I purchased a two year no questions asked extended warranty...looks like my xbox upgrade is coming soon.

mricyfire

I have to agree with @NewPerfection:, PC games are for loners ;-)

The Magnificen7

I just thought of something, if the NXE requires at least 256mb to use than what happens if you take your hard drive out, can you not even use your 360?

gamecrazychris

Umm, why would one need 256MB flash on board??

FritzLaurel

The Xbox 360 is actually a good holdiay gift for older adults. I plan on getting my parents one. They have a renewed interest in gaming thanks to the Wii, but the Xbox also offers a lot more. My mom loves Netflix and the ablility for her to watch things in the instant que will be great for her. Plus we can also video chat a lot easier with the Live Vision cam. And maybe Pops will want to play a little Madden.

Unknown2U

I'm guessing you'll start to see this show up when Microsoft repackages the Xbox without the holiday games. I don't think the new arcades will come with the 256MB memory card anymore too.

Dafrety

Okay well i got some honest answers, i supposes its just a personal preference. Of course, im not a hardcore gamer, i usually stick to Starcraft and of course waiting patiently for Starcraft 2, i would def recommend that when it comes out

iAirmanshirk

@iAirmanshirk: Humm? I will take that for face value and assume you are not trolling, but imho there are just waaaaaaaaayyyy more games. PC's are great for the games that drop on them, but for people who want a ton of options nothing really beats a console.

Illist

@iAirmanshirk: You play... Starcraft? You mean that game that came out TEN YEARS AGO!?!!? I'm sure your computer does run that stronger.

Wow.

Personally, I like the always connected to friends part (seeing what they're playing, jumping into their games without phone calls) actually getting messages to them while they're in a game, I like how it always works with no proxies and people who lag the game.

PC Gaming = VCR
Xbox Gaming = Tivo

Everything about it is just better.

The Brain

@berbar:
exactly my thoughts.. I was planning on passing my old launch xbox 360 to my cousins this christmas and buy a new 60gb pro system, but hearing this, I'll wait for awhile.

djangopool9

@iAirmanshirk: while fps and the same thing on both, consoles have more variety to choose from. If strategy and fps are the only thing you play, you don't need a console, but you do need some more cash. And Wii games are impossible to be made for pc until we let go of the keyboard and mouse and main controls.

VakeroRokero

@The Brain:
Like i said, im not hard core. But yes, starcraft is still one of the best games ever made, and is still updated, so its not exacly out dated. Starcraft 2 will update everything else, not to mention battle.net. Your argument is a little weak.. i know its just my opinion but computer gaming trumps x-box any day. For so many reasons. One being the quality of games. Just look at starcraft, ten years later and people are still playing it, though i dont see you still playing donky kong from 10 years ago.. Well anyway, my proof would be: warcraft 3, world of warcraft, diablo 3 and starcraft 2. All great games that will trump and outsell aany x-box game. Graphics, user interface and just over-all fun!

Gameplay video(amazing):

+ Watch video

Here are the Starcraft2 screenshots:
[www.starcraft2.com]

iAirmanshirk

How about a battery on board, so you don't have to reset the clock every time you unplug the damn thing?

eediebax

@Matt2K: I really don't understand why people complain about a browser for 360. Seriously, I've never went on my xbox and said to myself "gee I wish I could check my e-mail right now".

Oh sure I guess it would be kinda cool. But if you have broadband internet, you more than likely have an internet compatible computer.

unibrow4o9

It's pretty impressive that Microsoft continues to update their hardware/online service so late in the xbox 360's life span. It makes me excited for the next generation!

unibrow4o9

@eediebax:

AMEN TO THAT.

I'm getting tired of having my clock say 11-25-2008 4:00AM EVERY TIME I turn it on... It really messes with Fable 2. :(

tastypotato

@iAirmanshirk: besides for the fact that mmo's suck, you don't have to pay out the ass every 18 months for it. don't get me wrong, i LOVE computer's and the customization ability but it's just getting too expensive and they're just speeding up moore's law.

anus1220

If someone from Microsoft is listening, How about IE for the 360, both Wii and PS3 have browsers and you sell a key pad for the 360 already, and if you cant make Xbox Live free, then lose the ads, as for the new GPU, big deal, 25w, the drive is a bigger problem, its way to load, Even if downloading the games helps, a better drive would be good for games like Halo 3, that don't load as fast from the HD, and While i'm asking for things, support for NTFS formated hard drives and more codecs support like the new western digital Media Player has, and better video up sampling, I Won't bother you about blue ray built in or wireless, both would be great but wired seems best for video, so that's one less thing for me to complain about and I do love my 360, Despite its flaws.

Matt2K

@The Brain:

Let's see, on my 360 I've encountered the same lag as on PC and LIVE downtimes.

Um, Ventrilo, and X-Fire hammer your next comments.

Then the VCR thing? Last time I checked you can achieve more stable FPS and better graphics on PC, not to mention a modding community that makes games like Oblivion look like God compared to their console versions.

The only thing that's bad about connecting with friends is when they don't have enough mula to make an investment into a PC and aren't willing to play with you.

Metkis

@unibrow4o9:
If your console was the centre of your entertainment system then you might understand how much fun e.g. youtubing is with a bunch of friends. Much more fun than "zap de neger" (a silly Dutch remote tv control game)

j05hu4

@iAirmanshirk: I love Blizz and all, but since the Blizz troll is visting maybe we should stop encouraging him.

But I do have to add, in response to his "i dont see you still playing donky kong from 10 years ago" comment... really? You mean like how I play the original Sonic and Golden Axe and console games like that TODAY and they still hold up? Is that what you meant?

Oh and besides the fact that one of my prized t-shirts is a Donkey Kong level shirt.

And Diablo II is virtually unplayable on today's screens. Soooo ugly.

And Warcraft III was one of the crappiest games I've played.

Okay I'm done now. :)

TheDustball

So although all these new features seem nice, how about they just fix all the RROD issues? Updates are all well and good but considering most 360s spend more time being fixed by microsoft than played by there owners Im not sure how it helps! Just fix the console, stop giving it more ways of dying. My Xbox is at Microsoft being fixed as I write, its the 4th one I have had, there are more pressing issues than internal memory and the rest of it. Just fix the core issues first.

xshortx

@iAirmanshirk: Whilst I do love playing games on my PC, the constant cost of top-of-the-range PC components has meant that I've moved most of my games purchases to my 360.
And to say that the list of games you mentioned have or would outsell anything on a console just needs 4 words:
Gears of War 2
[Quick search on Wiki for top selling games puts Warcraft 3 around 3 million units sold - the opening weekend for GoW2 is confirmed at being over 2 million... in 2 days!]

Jawdy

@iAirmanshirk: The fuck?
I love me some donkey kong 64, still whip out my n64 to play goldeneye, mario kart, donkey kong, and of course the best game in existence: OoT
It probably gets almost as much playtime as my xbox 360. And, it hasn't been upgraded, it is a 11 y/o system playing games the same age great even today. It could be because I suck at every shooter besides goldeneye, but friends still want to play.
Console games are way more social too, because not only is online comparable or better than PC, you play with people in person, and not fucking LAN parties, actual human interaction.
The best part is that the games don't need continued updates 10 years later to still be enjoyed, they were fucking perfect from the day they came out. You cant name one PC game that didn't get updates for some shit because it came out in late beta, all PC games do this.
Don't fucking tell me no one plays old console games, I would hook up NES and SNES if they weren't so easy to emulate.

mferrari

@xshortx: maybe it will fix the rrod issued.. if its gonna use the newer fabbed graphics proc that has lower thermal power. less power means less heat and *cross-fingers* no more rrod.

djangopool9

I love how these new boards are the only ones that can run the NXE without paying extra money for a HDD.

I know some 360's come with HDD's... but some don't... and you KNOW that MS isn't going to state that the "arcade" version won't be able to run the NXE out of the box.

And people wonder why so many people dislike MS...

ttech10

@iAirmanshirk:
well that's simple, to play lest gen games on pc, you spend way more building the pc.
Second: it's more confortable to play something on couch, specially when u have a big screen, and you can be few meters away.
I also feel that usually, it's easier when you are playing console, to just pause, go to the kitchen, or bathroom, no idea why.
And i also play starcraft, but i'm sure lot of people does.

the problem is that i'm very noob (i only play with friends, coz in Bnet i think i would be crushed)

laio

@Metkis: Took the words right out of my mouth.

Console gaming is for the kids that don't want to take the time to build a great system (and a system that trounces the 360 and PS3 can be built for less than $500).

Console gaming just has a bigger draw because it inheritantly requires less skill.

In other words:

Console gamers = mall rent-a-cops (they still do an important job, but have no respect)

PC gamers = US Special Forces (much more skilled, but you don't see as many of them)

TendoMentis

obviously some people just like to argue. too bad they choose to argue about such unimportant things. gotta love living in an industrialized, stable country where we have the privilege of discussing such trivial matters.

bottom line people buy what they want. the pc vs console "argument" is extremely tired.

meesterbrian

@xshortx: Umm.. You must be one of the most clueless posters on Gizmodo..

Microsoft has been working on the RROD issues since launch and according to an internal document have significantly reduced the chance for the consoles to RROD and the Jasper should be another step into PS3 like amost totally failsafe hardware.

L_A_G

@iAirmanshirk: Because not all gamers are geeks who care about framerate, driver revisions and system tweeks to get a game running that may or may not fall on it's arse at any time. Console: buy, plug, play. That's what most gamers are looking for and exactly why I don't game on my PC.

shufflemoomin

256 megabytes? What the hell is a megabyte?

heroineworshipper

@shufflemoomin:
Games always run.
PC games in 1 year will not run in full detail on your PC.
Console games in 1 year will run fine on the console.

This is mainly an issue if you, like me, will always want the best graphics possible. If you can live with tuning graphics down more and more you're OK.

Big screen.
A console game on a 40 inch HDTV will kick any PC's ass. Although screens are getting bigger and bigger.

Beer.
Drinking beer with my friends while calling them names for sucking at Mario Galaxy is awesome. Becoming a level 20 tomahawk night-elf not so much. I detest 3d shooters as well.

Nudism.
Playing Wii Fit buttnaked with my girlfriend is the best in the world.

To me, PC games are dead, and I mainly use it for development. I just can't sit behind the thing to play games while my Wii is waiting downstairs in a comfy room.

Herman

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mricyfire

Posted 12:45 AM 29/11/08