Thanks, BLam! This will hold me until the trailer makes it to the web site in a few days.

I actually considered watching 007 just because of the ST trailer, although I heard 007 itself is pretty good.

AJ_Syrinx

I literally facepalmed during the Star Trek preview.

Also, let Craig finish his five films as Bond directed by Doug Liman fans and then knock off the generic action and get back to basics. Get back to what makes Bond, Bond- and make him British again, not the generic American action hero we have now, who runs around blowing stuff up, playing Texas Hold 'Em, and happens to have a British accent, but the classic Bond character.

Forget the silly action scenes and ridiculous special effects and focus on a story and character development. Set the first post-Craig film in the 60s, put Bond back in the DB5 and make a film that people won't throw away and forget in ten years.

mhlaxp

OMG Leet. The best part is I love Heroes, and having the villian there become a nice guy here...set your phasers to stunning! (Sorry, had to do that)

I freebase cocaine for a living

Um, I think Star Trek just became cool.

MaaseyRacer

@gre9del: your wife is cool.

Brian Lam

I just saw Bond as well, which was fantastic. This trailer I also liked very much, the fact that it was followed immediately by the Watchmen trailer caused my pants to swell. Then the Bond movie opened with an Aston Martin mountainous car chase and my wife leaned over to me and whispered "don't mess yourself".

gre9del

Just came back from QoS and an intense round of StarCraft with my friends and....after having seen that this evening, I'm not sure how I feel about the Star Trek movie anymore. This could be either really really awesome or overdone technology, like The Hulk (the Internet is a visual space with flying pages you can search...really???). Anyone else's thoughts on this? Someone convince me one way or another.

DigitalSciGuy

Sigh....seriously, wtf was that? Not a single thing in that trailer showed anything that made me think Star Trek (except the vulcan ears). Atrocious...simply atrocious. I never had any hope for that movie but now it has just been confirmed that it's going to be any but redeemable.

prodld50

@DigitalSciGuy: Well, regarding "The Incredible Hulk", those flying pages were just effects to tell the audience that the NSA, er, I mean S.H.I.E.L.D. is scanning all Internet traffic. You took it too literally.

Regarding Star Trek, I'm pretty psyched. I don't consider myself "old guard" as I was born around when the original series started, but did become a fan with TNG. I watched all other ST series and movies and my opinions on those are mixed and too long to describe. I also have mixed opinions about J.J. Abrams but I have a feeling he will get what this franchise needs...new fans.

I can't wait.

AJ_Syrinx

@NervousFireStarter: Indeed.

mangochutney

@DrewHlios: What Brain said.

mangochutney

@prodld50: I agree, He's turned it into an action series. But I have to admit it does look fun, just not Star Trek.

NervousFireStarter

@MaaseyRacer: Star Trek has always been cool.

NervousFireStarter

@gre9del: She is cool, why is it the only women I find even remotely that cool want nothing to do with me :(

DrewHlios

This isn't Star Trek... it's DRAMA TREK! ARGH!

JJ... you're a tool.

draiko

Ugh... I just vomited a little.

The only enjoyable bit in this was Simon Pegg as Scotty.
The rest of it looks like "X-Men: Evolution".

...I need to go brush my teeth.

Boba.Fett

Um…

Awesomeness.

This might well be the best Star Trek movie ever.
Which feels kinda odd, as it looks more modern than everything before.
And doesn't feature Patrick Stewart.

mangochutney

STAAAR TREEEEEKKKKK <3 <3 <3.

Hmm...If this gonna be just another action movie-i gonna kill someone.

Deam noobs-coming from everywhere!

(Btw-Bond SUX! And why are u not in fitness or in the bar anyway?)

winsucker

@mangochutney: patrick stewart is important and they need the real kirk back at some point in the movie...William Shatner=win

stryker1800

@mhlaxp: Daniel Craig is british.

PreachingLlama

Oh my.

That DOES look interesting, doesn't it?

strider_mt2k

Canadians gypped! We didnt see this last night!

Oh and the new Bond was goooooouuuuud!

deadrobot

@mhlaxp: Seconded.

hanswurst0815

@mhlaxp: Soo true, apart from the ten years bit, I forgot it after 10minutes. It definitely was not a bond film, just a generic action flick. What happened to the gadgets and the style/ sophistication, not to mention the weak plot. Oh well another franchise bites the dust.

MarieCorcyra

@prodld50: Agreed. And what's with that thing in the beginning about Kirk being "the chosen one".

BoinK

SYLAR IS GONNA BANG SOME SHIT UP!

IS HIRO PLAYING MR SULU?

Stacky Botrus

@NervousFireStarter: it's a trailer for christ sake, it has to appeal to the masses. The whole movie is yet to be seen.

miguelslo

I guarantee you that Star Trek going to suck. It's written and directed by J.J. Abrams...the man partially responsible for ruining Mission Impossible 3 with the atrocious screenplay and direction...and that stupid "Cloverfield" movie.......oh, and that little soap opera set on a deserted island called "Lost."

I can almost see this movie with lots of stupid long unneeded dialogues...and possibly crying.

J.J. Abrams should be beheaded.

bubuli

Dear JJ,

Thank you for raping Star Trek. If we removed the obvious symbols would anyone have a fucking clue what this was?

KanSer

@deadrobot: If you don't like that the domestic American market gets first crack at American movies, then start your own movie industry.

OMG! Ponies!

@bubuli: Tom Cruise was ENTIRELY responsible for ruining Mission Impossible 3 by signing on to star in Mission Impossible 3.

OMG! Ponies!

Is it legal to knowingly post bootlegged copyrighted material on a website for commercial purposes?

OMG! Ponies!

Come on its not like the last couple of startrek movies where masterpieces either.

majortom1029

...and it was done by a Brazilian! Way to go Brazil!

Or not?

Dakiall

@OMG! Ponies!:

Oh I'm sure the movie studio is freaking out that 10s of thousands of people are going to see the trailer for their new film. A a site that basically captures their target audience no less.

rochec

@majortom1029: If that's the case, why make another shitty one?

IMO, Star Trek doesn't need (they may want, but that's another story) to appeal to the masses...the Trekkers/Trekkies take care of that with the box office and convention sales. But when you put together a movie that looks more like Dawson's Creek meets Babylon 5 than a Star Trek movie...well, you basically came up with a recipe to create a shit-tastic product. But how is this any different than the majority of movies that have come out over the past X years? What was the last GREAT sci-fi film? I can't remember. Nominees?

FatalisticDread

Going to see Bond tonight, so I get a double-dose of trailer action with Trek and Watchmen. 2009 is off to a good start.

shokk

@KanSer: Oh give me a break. Like any of the other movies are anything but garbage? The only thing good about star trek was TNG. I'm a wierd mix in that I think the original series is pure shite, the movies are pure shite, but TNG is great. To me, this looks great.

bilups

@I freebase cocaine for a living: To be fair, he might not be the villain in Heroes anymore...

hexydes

Wish I would of gotten to see this in the theater (and that new watchmen trailer) I either got there too late (seems like we just missed a few trailers and stuff like that is usually closer to the movie anyways) or my local theater stuck it on something else, though I couldn't imagine what or why. They always seem to do that even trailers that are "attached" aren't always there. Sometimes I think they cut it out and sell it on eBay.

tande04

@miguelslo: Following into, it's a movie for christ sake.

Every trailer for every movie (and apparently every movie after reading how some here felt about Bond) rapes someone's childhood and is an abomination that could of been done much better by who ever is posting at the time.

tande04

@MaaseyRacer: OK.. Star Trek has become even COOLER! Great visuals, let's hope Abram's story has legs.

tamoko

So let me get this straight... Kirk does a powerslide, opens the passenger side door of his car, and this flings him across a canyon.

Elliuotatar

Awesome. I can't wait! Plus, with the new movies coming out, my wife has agreed to watch all of the previous 10 movies between now and then. Star Trek Marathon! :-)

ryaninc

@FatalisticDread: How can you say what the new startrek movie will be like when the trailer didnt show much of anything in it just ships blowing up and a couple of lines. I can make any movie look like a completely diff movie by making a trailer with handpicked lines from it.

majortom1029

@prodld50: Oh oh, why do I feel the same revolt coming on that happened with Battlestar Galactica?
I think that I'm liking the re-imagined Trek. Normally I would wait until this was released on DVD so I could rent it. But this makes me want to catch it in the theaters.

CaptCaveman

@OMG! Ponies!: Everything is legal on the internet!

r.o.c.k.

The ironic thing to me is, all you people hating on this trailer will be the first in line opening night.

bilups

@rochec: In a crappy cam'd format that doesn't really capture what they intended, yeah, history shows they aren't usually happy with that. Maybe in the YouTube age paramount will be different but usually studios are pretty quick about getting this stuff pulled.

tande04

@FatalisticDread: The fact that the last few movies were crap is EXACTLY why JJ Abrams is reimagining it. Basically, like they did with Batman Begins and Casino Royale. I welcome it.

bilups

@bilups: Quite a few of the movies were great... :( .

Kyang

It's like Muppet Babies for SciFi nerds. But seriously, as a movie look like a big smash 'em up blockbuster. Not sure about the Trek side of things. I guess we'll find out.

Ayeco

@majortom1029: What's wrong with First Contact?

defn

@rochec: I'm just saying that this site is owned by Gawker, a company with a substantial amount of assets. And with copyright, you don't need to proves damages, just a violation.

I some chucklehead posted this on their own website, Viacom (which owns Paramount) might not care; still, you need to consider how Viacom feels about YouTube.

I just don't think this is a wise idea. If Paramount wanted the trailer on the web, they'd post it on the web. They didn't.

Probably because they want it to be a value-add for the Bond movie.

OMG! Ponies!

I find the new transporter sequence a bit funny.

defn

@mhlaxp: Bond has become Borne Identity, but using 007 as a recognized brand name. I agree that Bond films should be Bond films, or else just make a spy/action movie with a new name.

TechSurfer

@gre9del: you wife's cool.

johnthevulcan

to anyone who thinks that any ST movie is crap... might i introduce you to rifftrax?

www.rifftrax.com

MST3K for recent/all movies..... i don't normally plug sites... but this is worth it... they have done wonders for all kinds of movies, including a few ST movies... if nothing else, they're funny..

chrystlubitshi

@NervousFireStarter: With the D&D social circles, maybe.

bestpersonintheunivers

@defn: I felt that First Contact and Nemesis were rather good.

FatalisticDread

@bilups: So, this will be a dark, well-done movie that makes us wonder why we ever liked the older ST movies? Again, from this trailer, I highly doubt that. They "reimagined" Dukes of Hazzard, too.

FatalisticDread

Okay, is it just my hearing going or did he say :James SIBERIUS Kirk"??????????

russdanger

@majortom1029: True, I do not EXACTLY what the new ST movie will be like. BUT, from the trailer, it looks cheesy (not in a good way) and full of crappy actors/actresses with pointless drama put in to attempt to give it "depth".

I accept that I may be wrong, but until the movie is out and seen, I'll stick with my first impressions based off of the trailer...which is usually what people base their opinions off of.

FatalisticDread

Star Trek for nerds no longer. But we are still invited :)

vista64guy

huge fan of the series and movies.... and for those of you who say st was never a soap opera look at ds9.... the only series that didnt have an emo twist was tng and some can successfully argue that it indeed was touchy feely.... anyway i always thought spock was sexy and new spock is equally sexxy i cant wait to go see this then rush home to download and watch it again! twice

johnthevulcan

@OMG! Ponies!: not as bad as these sites teaching me to pirate

johnthevulcan

@deadrobot: that really does suck, dont worry, impoverished americans have to see the trailer bootlegged on gizmodo and pirate qos

johnthevulcan

3 Words: Wrath Of Kahn

The only Trek movie that mattered or will.

Q

@Stacky Botrus: Ick, Hero fans!

bbfreak

@Kyang: I agree, and I'm not even a trekie!

bbfreak

.... I think I just peed a little.

dirigoDIGITAL

There seems to be a broken link for it on the Apple/downloads page under movie trailers.

Interesting, but not logical.

Logan5

looks cool cinematically and looks action packed... but it doesn't seem like star trek really

thedarkhorse

@hexydes: yeah. uuuuuuuugh. now he's just emo.

LazyPanda

@russdanger: He said "Tiberius"...James T. Kirk.

AJ_Syrinx

@Stacky Botrus: No, sulu is being played by the guy from harold and kumar.

TIinPA

@chrystlubitshi: Rifftrax are awesome. They make bad movies watchable, and good movies funny.

bilups

@Brian Lam: That she is sir, that she is.

gre9del

I can't say if the movie is good or not, all I can say is that it is NOT Star Trek. It breaks established canon much like Enterprise did, which was not Star Trek either.

Feigr

@Ayeco: Agreed, we'll see what we see.

bbfreak

@Elliuotatar: Um no, he does a powerslide, opesn the passenger side door of his car, and then flings himself out of the car so he doesn't end up in the canyon.

bbfreak

@gre9del: Is she hot???? jk

jercb123

Star Trek 90210? I'm disappointed. Still going to see it though, hopefully I'm wrong.

MagnoliaBoy

1) That car chase scene where Kirk's a kid doesn't look like Iowa, and
2) Fossil fuels still used in the future?

Otherwise, +1.

scarbrtj

@scarbrtj: That scene takes place on Tarsus IV where Kirk lived for a time as a child.

Tyranicus

@bestpersonintheunivers: Rather like posting comments on internet technology fan sites.

Indigen

@strider_mt2k: It's got potential...

Retro is cool enough, though, I kinda always hoped to see Voyager on the big screen.

Windhawk

I watched QoS last night in Sacramento,CA .... NO STAR TREK TRAILER!!!!!!!! :( WTF

[x7productions]

@LazyPanda: Let us fondly remember Sylar as he was in Season 1. And dismiss the atrocity that was the latter half of season 2, and season 3.

shockwaver

Looks interesting - may piss off all the die-hards but I'll go see it.

Adisharr

This isn't Star Trek. It's just typical Hollywood boring actin and more action sequence. It's just Transformers in space. Non stop eye candy. Eye candy is used when there is no story. Listen to the music in the trailer. It's tempo driven for action. U can easily replace the characters with Anakin, ObiWan, etc, and you'll have a Star Wars/Transformers type movie. Looks pretty boring to me. Too bad they ruined it.

Clearly Paramount wants to make ST a wide audience movie such as Spiderman, Transformers, etc. The only way to do that is to rip out the soul of Trek and replace it with action sequences. That, they've done a pretty good job doing. This isn't ST, it's just a formula fx movie and the Kirk/Spock/McCoy, etc actors are merely the bait to get the original fans in the movie theater. Once in, they will show us action sequences without the vision of Roddenberry.

lunchtimereader

@MaaseyRacer: yes star trek is awesome... but i notice s little something. Spok in anger? trying to kill Kirk?

Fuji-kun

DONT DO IT KIRK, SPOK JUST WANTS YOUR DELICIOUS BRAINS!

roflwaffles

@mhlaxp: I don't think you realize that half of the stuff you just mentioned is what Bond was about in the beginning. You might want to re watch those episoes and count how many times Bond plays cards and gets into explosive action sequences in the first few films, you'll probably be really surprised. :/

UsamahHamilton

It's interesting that J.J. felt compelled to insert a one second clip of a woman taking off her shirt to demonstrate that the whole exercise was not completely sexless. Not fooling anyone J.J.

uncle_wiggly

is that Sylar?

shpe11

OMFG....they destroyed a perfectyly beautiful classic car....get a rope...

Movie looks good though.

cowboyshootist

@AJ_Syrinx: Listen again. He does say Siberis. Fail.

SpeedyGonzalas

@shockwaver: Agreed.

midwestkel

Yikes...

Well, hopefully the movie is better than the trailer.

dna

It looks good. Keeping in mind of course that's it's a movie. Movies are full of drama and exciting shit, so it's fine if they change a bit here and there. Not to mention I've never watched any of the original, so I don't care too much.

kevinyung89

@gre9del: I have not seen the new bond movies because the ones with brosnan had too many sex sceens. Yippie, how many whores does he have to fuk? Every women he sees he fuks. Just gets tired after the first slut.

It looks like the new star trek movie got too hollywooded up. But hopefully its good and not a pile of hollywood sh1t!

wizzledizzle

@OMG! Ponies!:

But He was in Mission Impossible 1?

im.thatoneguy

@bilups:
Iagree.

This looks great and I'm a devout trekie. I can't see how a Trekie can be bitchy about consistency.

In TOS they left the galaxy. In TOS they flew around in an "interglactic" ship. In TOS they flew from one side of the Galaxy to the other over and over. In TOS the klingons looked like normal people. In TOS they obviously had no Prime Directive. In TOS Spock was specatcularly illogical and brain dead retarded. "Captain offering these greedy warlords a gift is emotional and illogical why would you do such a thing?" Because Spock anyone who has have a logical cell in his body understands how to be diplomatic and appeal to someone's emotional 'weakness' to get what you want.

TOS just needs to be patted on the head and ignored. It was anti-scientific. It was overtly religious. It was terribly misogynistic. It did not stand up to the test of time like TNG and all of the Star Trek canon that grew up from TNG's world. Picard's world won. IT is canon now. DS9 matches it. Voyager matches it. Enterprise Matches it. The odd man out of star trek is the original series.

im.thatoneguy

Having a kiddie introduce us to Kirk is about as lame as watching Anakin Skywalker as a bubbly 8-year old. If he was that young... wouldn't he have said something like, "My name's Kirk... Jimmy Kirk." ??

The way they did it was just gay. I hope that scene doesn't make it into the actual movie.

ducati9x

Gene Roddenberry is spinning in his grave.

Hyman Decent

@cowboyshootist: Hopefully, it was just a replicar.

Hyman Decent

@scarbrtj: In the future, why not keep fueling classic cars with gasoline if petroleum is available?

Hyman Decent

@dirigoDIGITAL: In your mouth?

Hyman Decent

@wizzledizzle: C'mon man, just read about the films. It is completely different this time. Especially in this last one, he sleeps with one field agent, and the main female character he only kisses once right near the end. There isn't even a bikini scene! Much more tastefully done.

The5thElephant

@Fuji-kun: Because he obviously wants his abilities.

Kayway8

@mhlaxp: i don't like the direction this new bond is going... I MISS Q! but seriously, if they were going to do the prequels, why the HELL didn't they at least put the story back in the proper time? this is just... annoying... i mean, come on... Poker? what British superspy is a texas Hold'em genius? WTF

p3713

@AJ_Syrinx: if i lived near a movie theatre i WOULD have gone to 007 just for the trailer.

p3713

I thought it was supposed to be released NOW? Not another half a year from now? Ugh.

phi

@SpeedyGonzalas: wow, bad movie already if the director doesn't know the name of james "T" kirk.

Mr.DuckSauce

@FatalisticDread: Nemesis was total crap. First Contact was the last good one but it was an action film. I actually liked generations because it felt more like the series (except for kirk dying)

taftsearlobe33

@taftsearlobe33: Hmm...maybe it's been too long. I don't remember hating it though...while I despised Insurrection. So, I guess it was "good" in comparison? :D

FatalisticDread

first of all spock looks gay and femme...maybe because his bangs are cut too low (when compared to the original?)

and that spell of COMEDY in the trailer from that comedian guy (forget his name) is going to ruin the movie.. why because you're going to be expecting smartass comments from the smartass comedian guy you've seen in a dozen comedy movies.... perhaps if someone else had the same lines in wouldnt be too IN-YOUR-FACE distracting

henhen

Oh...

Oh my.

justhesh

@CaptCaveman: This.

People were freaking out over the BSG re-imagining. Yes, it was new and different, and yes, Starbuck is a chick.

But after four seasons, I say it's probably the best sci-fi series ever made.

I'll reserve judgement until I see the movie. It doesn't have to be exactly the same as the old trek-- In fact, I don't want a scene-by-scene reshoot of Wrath of Khan. I want the darker, edgier trek that we saw in the last few seasons of DS9- equal parts cerebral and action.

EarlNowak

For fuck sake, I'm a pretty big nerd but God damn, you fanboys need to lighten the hell up. They don't make these movies often because they don't make a ton of money. How many times can the 10,000 of you keep paying to see a film in hopes that it will stay open in locations like Oshkosh, WI? Perhaps if you appeal to another group of "humanoids" you might actually be happy with the end result (or get laid for once). You guys sound like the fucking model railroad club in high school. You can be pretty lame, we know it but if you diversify and give the rest of us a reason to pop a boner when the steam comes out of the main engine we might actually give you and your nerd crap some credibility. Or do you prefer sour cream and onion Jays and your Mom's basement still? Your call.

GhostofCharlesBronson

It looks cool but the new Kirk is a bit TOO James Dean. Handling a starship would be considered a responsibility of monumental proportions, not to be handed over to some biker boy.

cymbalrocks

The kid said that his name is "James Siberius Kirk"...what the fuck...it's James T. Kirk...as in "Tiberius"...not...Siberius. Stupid kid doesn't even know his own name! I watched it a dozen times...he clearly says "Siberius". Ugh

mikepetel

This looks to be the shizzle!

TheBugMan

@lunchtimereader:

Have you never watched a single TOS episode?

Every single episode had Kirk getting into a fight with someone and losing his shirt. How many times did they do that dramatic music when Kirk talks to a chick or when someone is about to die.

Star Trek has ALWAYS been an action/drama. Just like every Bond Movie.

Personally i agree with Abrams. When they do the 10 minute flyby of the Enterprise in the first movie I was totally in awe. If he does even the first Star Trek movie justice I will be ecstatic.

SGTalon

@gre9del: damn your wife is hot

Nemesisesq

@hexydes: I already know what your reply will be if you deign to give one, and I realize that the only result of my post will be someone casually dismissing me for failing to glue myself to my television and watch every single show ever the moment it airs, if not earlier.

That having been said, please warn readers about SPOILERS.

Killjoy

@OMG! Ponies!: You've got to be kidding. Considering how much Canadians (studios, actors, location filming) pour into the "American" movie industry, that's an incredibly silly comment to make. And I did feel annoyed that I didn't get to see the Star Trek trailer when I watched Bond. Not really sure why it wasn't included.

LeanderSnookie

@bubuli: If you think MI3 was ruined, I hate to wonder what you think of MI2. For me, 3 was far more watchable. Plus, (PARTIAL SPOILERS!) Tom Cruise breaks his back getting flung against a car (well, in the real world he would have) and gets blasted with voltage straight from the wall! What's not to like?

Killjoy

@MarieCorcyra: "What happened to the gadgets and the style/ sophistication..."

Well now, in the books - "Hoo boy, we got ourselves one a them REEDER types a-talkin'!"

Yes. As I was saying, in the books - you know, the original source material - there was a bare minimum of both gadgets and style. Not to say they didn't exist, but the recent Casino Royale is far closer to the character and the world of Bond as created by Ian Fleming. Bond was a bit of a brute in both work and play. The constant smooth talk, continuous quippery and the bristling arsenal of gadgets were all Hollywood's additions.

Killjoy

@FatalisticDread: "What was the last GREAT sci-fi film? I can't remember. Nominees?"

Dunno about the very last... off the top of my head I can think of a few recent ones: 12 Monkeys, The Matrix (but only if taken as a standalone) and Primer. Minority Report was decent but I'd hesitate to call it GREAT. Pitch Black wasn't capital-G GREAT but it sure was great. Serenity was pretty good but in all honesty that's because of the TV series that came before it.

You're right that there are very few truly good science fiction flicks, and keeping it to recent times only narrows that small field.

Killjoy

@Fuji-kun:

This is going back to the beginning, even before the original series. Spock is half human, he has to work harder to be as stoic as the other full blooded Vulcans.

snbatman

@wizzledizzle:

How old are you? James Bond is ABOUT him sleeping with ever hot woman he encounters. It's a central tenant of the series until these last 2 Daniel Craig as Bond movies.

snbatman

@Killjoy: Gattaca

Pixelologist

@taftsearlobe33: And what's wrong with an action Star Trek movie? Why have freaking phasers and torpedoes and war mongering alien races if you're not going to put them together?

snbatman

@bbfreak: And what the heck do you like?

snbatman

@stryker1800: No he doesn't not in his current bloated state of self-mockery that is his "acting" career.

He'd be out of place in this new Star Trek.

snbatman

@GhostofCharlesBronson: Hey! You just leave my mom outta this!

Pixelologist

There is a better quality version on the official Movie Website.

BrittanySalo

@mikepetel: It's very easy for noise distortion and poor recording conditions to make "T" sound like "S". Or even for the "t" to drop out entirely, leaving the "s" at the end of "James" to sound like the beginning of the next word too.

Chill.

Jesssssse

I thought the popcorn munching at the end was a nice touch.

lschofield

@Hyman Decent: Gene Roddenberry was a complete mercenary who would be delighted to see his creation have another shot at generating $. He was in no way a Trekker, find yourself a different saint.

Jesssssse

@majortom1029: @FatalisticDread: IMO, Star Trek doesn't need (they may want, but that's another story) to appeal to the masses...the Trekkers/Trekkies take care of that with the box office and convention sales.

Obviously not. If this were true there would still be TNG movies coming out. The fans didn't support it.

Real fans see a movie even if it sucks, so that they can see the next movie. Enough real fans saw Star Trek I that they made Star Trek II. Enough real fans saw III that they made IV. Enough real fans watched ST:TNG as a TV show that it had time to find its legs and become interesting.

But if you didn't like "Enterprise" and support it, you let the franchise die on TV forever. And if this doesn't succeed, the franchise is dead in the movie theaters too.

Stuff your opinion up your butt and see this movie, or don't dare call yourself a Trekker ever again.

Jesssssse

@Pixelologist: Yes, definitely Gattaca.

Killjoy

Star Trek has always been divided between fans who want big action versus the big concept. Big action usually involved some space war with: Klingons, Borg, forgettable humanoids that vaguely look like Russian mobsters, and unforgettably, a big planet eating doobie. Big concept includes anything with time travel -including a sarcastic, cloacal time portal, god-like matter/energy shifting beings, and the criminal justice systems of alien cultures. Great science fiction mixes the two to keep the reds and blues states of science fiction fandom to sit still. JJ Adams is definitely on the red meat side of things but tries to play at Ridley Scott with the cool cityscapes, the French-anime costumes and hairdos, and the fixation of creating monsters that are just blow ups of tiny parasites that dig around your lower regions. But the Star Trek franchise is in desperate need of reinvigoration. After downloading Enterprise -I am stuck at the 5th episode of the first season unable to bring myself to devote valuable geekout time away from Terminator -Sarah Connor Chronicles and rewatching Battlestar. So will Spock be reinvented as a bi-specied palimpsest of his old self, kind of like a Barack Obama (who is vaguely Vulcan, by the way) in the blue geek squad shirt? Will Kirk be be the old skirt chasing, commanding from his gut like a rejuvenated McCain or will he be just Bourne/Bond/Batman in the command gold.

I think the cool thing will be how they bring back ships from the original Star Fleet Manual (remember those -I've got mine in a special place in my study). All reimaginings reflect the times that they are created in and the temper of the author. For myself, I will keep an open mind.

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