@mrsarahpalinsbaby: COTD! LOLz

trendspotter

@mrsarahpalinsbaby: He might even be a meverick too!

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

This is bullshit.
The punishment is completely over-exaggerated in comparison to the crime.

Dunny0, Team T/A

@Phenostar:

Yeah. What ever happened to Al Gore's son after he got pulled over doing 120 in his prius with other people's prescription drugs in the car?

No no no, wait a sec. That was America, not Al Gore's son. ;)

scarbrtj

@Phenostar: He had other's drugs too? I thought he just had some good dope!

johnnyabnormal

@Phenostar:

i dunno, but:

Dan Burton, II - Son of Rep. Dan Burton (R-IN)
Burton was busted in January of 1994 on charges of possession of marijuana with intent to distribute. Allegedly, Burton II was transporting seven pounds of marijuana in a car from Texas to Indiana when he was caught in Louisiana. Burton II plead guilty to felony charges of possession of marijuana with intent to distribute. Rather than face ten to sixteen months in federal prison, Burton was sentenced to five years probation, 2000 hours of community service, three years of house arrest and random drug screening. Five month later police found 30 marijuana plants and a shotgun in Burton's apartment in Indianapolis. Under federal mandatory minimum rules, Burton should have received at least five years in federal prison, plus a year or more for arrest while on probation. State prosecutors decided that the total weight of marijuana from the 30 plants was 25 grams (about one ounce), thus reducing the charge to a misdemeanor. The Indiana prosecutor threw out all the charges against him saying, "I didn't see any sense in putting him on probation a second time."

bunch more here:

[www.journeyforjustice.org]

nutbastard

Come one now... I guess this is a lesson to all of you wanna-be-"hackers" don't be a dumb ass and hack a potential vice president's, and maybe president if McCain's old age gets to him, 's email address for fucking LULZ on FUCKING 4Chan!!!

Glare

@nutbastard: you betcha

mrsarahpalinsbaby

Damn thats a while... Sucks for him.

DarkHavoc99

...Seriously? Was it really that bad? I bet that there are much worse crimes than this that result in much less punishment.

20GB

@hakubak:
i want you go to prison

flunkycarter

@nutbastard: Yeah. What ever happened to Al Gore's son after he got pulled over doing 120 in his prius with other people's prescription drugs in the car?

Phenostar

I've had this shit happen to my Yahoo account TWICE!

Where's MY justice??? Just because I can't see Russia from MY balcony doesn't mean anything!!

shorty63136

@Something4u:

yep. it's called the tor onion network. use it!

nutbastard

He'll likely walk, but not because of being politically connected, but because it's his first offense and little harm was done.

I want him to go to prison, but I don't expect it to happen.

hakubak

@mrsarahpalinsbaby:

yeah. gosh darn it!

nutbastard

@lodleader: Mitnick was also a douchebag, but in a different way.

hakubak

Know what I like about this kid? He's a maverick who tried to clean up government.

mrsarahpalinsbaby

Let this be a reminder to all young hackers: Don't leave anything which can be traced back to you.

Something4u

He should have just released her email and password to the internetz. Somebody else would have logged into it, it's not illegal (right) if he messes a little with it like saying that its abc and guess what else at the end of it kind of password for somebody that is the V :) P of J :) Mc. Right?

+

plus the kid was a douchebag going "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME LOOK WHAT I DID" like a 4 year old...

lodleader

good. illegal is illegal. plain and simple.

lodleader

OH PLEASE GIZ.

are you so naive as to think the son of a state representative will see the inside of a jail cell? those little shits get away with EVERYTHING.

nutbastard

I still bet he won't be, he's a political figures kid.

andrethejesus

Tired of this. Lemme know when he's either convicted or not.

smartboydan hates college

If it was an average persons email account that was being "hacked" into, i really doubt there would be any real criminal charges, maybe a fine, unless there is a law that says government officials personal property is more important then the average citizen

SlimDan22

Enjoy butt rape retard. I guess he expected to be called a hero and gotten a book deal. Instead his sissy looking ass will be getting prison rape.

Nastro

@mrsarahpalinsbaby: *mavrick. If you're going to mock the idiots, might as well mock their idiocies.

deadhouseplantz

@nutbastard: These are Federal charges, not state charges. He's the son of a Tennessee STATE representative. His father, especially being a Democrat, has zero influence over the Federal Department of Justice.

markarian

@Noobs-R-Us: For God's sakes man, it's nookyaluhr. Get it right!

Phenostar

@Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another du...: My bad, further research shows he was pulled over doing 100. The supposed top speed of a prius is 109, but only while going downhill with a tailwind.

Phenostar

@nutbastard: lulz. it has been repeatedly proven that tor can be circumvented to intercept data, in more than one manner. there is no such thing as a anonymity on the internet.

marm0lade

@nutbastard: tor can be traced.

lostarchitect

@Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another du...: KPH perhaps?

ripfire

so wait, she wasn't supposed to have the email account, and he wasn't supposed to hack it, so why don't they just say it never happened.

crazy0000

This is sorta crap. I'm guessing that the weight of his punishment is meant to act as a deterrent for future potential crackers, not as a suitable form of justice. I would like to know the last time someone got that much time for such a crime (against someone who was not political like Sarah Palin).

Alfonzo

David Kernell, we salute you

rudeadly

@shorty63136: Hahaha... you know what I can see from you balcony??

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

@Phenostar: Wait, what? A Prius can do 120!!???

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

@mhlaxp:
exactly my thoughts. he doesnt deserve this. palin is the one who should be criticized here.

jewsrock

prestine=pristine

Noobs-R-Us

Come on people. He's going to jail. When you screw with Democrats, you can get away with it. If you screw with Republicans? You're going to jail. Anyone remember what they did to Clinton? He was a sitting President no less. What chance does this poor kid have? He should bend over and kiss his prestine ass goodbye.

Noobs-R-Us

Yeah, what he did was technically illegal, but am I the only one who can sympathize with him? He's not some computer guru, he just googled for the answer to Palin's security question and was sort of shocked when it worked. He didn't know what to do so he posted it on 4chan. Other people (who knew how to use proxies) went a grabbed the documents and one person changed the password to something else and informed Palin's office.

Personally I'm a little more worried about Palin's incompetence in securing her Yahoo account and her usage of it for official government business in order to avoid Freedom of Information act requests (which happens to be illegal).

He didn't hack or crack anything- it's the equivalent of opening a mailbox and grabbing a piece of mail. I'm not arguing that it isn't illegal, but 5 years in jail (or any jail time at all) hardly seems to be justice.

mhlaxp

@mrsarahpalinsbaby: Oh no, he could be givin nukelar secrets to the Chinese!

Noobs-R-Us

@deadhouseplantz: Heh heh. That 'Mavrick' guy was a real moran...

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

So much in love with shiny new political news, it's unnatural.

Please. Stop.

The Brain

@mhlaxp: Well because of the way read e-mails are classified by the DoJ, its more like picking mail out of someone's garbage.

Jkoenig96

There is no way he gets any time. Probation and maybe some community service. Palin would never let it happen. Assuming he really is just an idiot of course. If not, then "Bubba like fresh meat." Since he didn't even get any money for doing this, my guess is Idiot.

AlternateEarth

Six months in ass rape central.

Nastro

i live near david in knoxville, i hope he is ok. he didn't even hack it, he just clicked "forgot password" and answered the questions. how is this worth 5 years in prison? I hope palin shows up to the trial

wfreiden

Hooray for potential incarceration!

Parkington

@nutbastard:

1. A Prius can't do 120. Either way, that's a license revoking offense, not prison time. You wont see prison either for having prescription drugs.

2. As for this kid getting off, this is a Federal offense. The STATE in which he is tried to can't do shit for him.

JEmlay

You think you guys have it bad, here in the Philippines they just recently granted executive clemency to a convicted murderer and drug user after doing just 14 years in prison. He was supposed to serve a life sentence.
Try researching the Maureen Hultman case if you're interested.

Nintenboy01

@marm0lade: sure there is, get a cheap netbook, Public or someone who has a open wi-fi. Good luck finding me then.

Ephemera

@+: He did. He pasted it all over 4chan if I recall.

Ephemera

@crazy0000: There was nothing illegal about her having the account. What is questionable is that she received confidential official emails to her unencrypted civilian email account. What he did was illegal, plain and simple. If he had done it to the average person nothing would have come of it, but he did it to a possible Vice President. Definitely not a good idea!

antitrust311

bah.. cut the poor idiot some slack and give him a thinking things through guide for dummies.

With such an astoundingly stupid email setup like that, Palin should be grateful that this idiot got to it first and not someone with some common sense.

Ekental

Well, if he could end up in jail for this, then we all owe it to him to at least read all of Palin's email and publish it widely, otherwise his sacrifice is wasted, right? :)

raj

This guy is NOT a hacker. This guy did the equivalent of tricking the security guard at the door by knowing the secret phrase, rather than kicking down some side door and entering. Paris Hilton had her secret password also guessed for access to her T-Mobile account. Stupid people - they need to pick stronger/harder to guess secret words/answers.

cupidpsyche

yikes, poor kid. That has to be terrifying.

GiantEnemyCrab

A fine and probation, and maybe community service, nothing more. Hope they throw a scare into him though, he deserves at least that.

GadgetPlay

A show prosecution and a joke. It was an unofficial address and the security essentially didn't exist, and it belonged to a highly prominent rising figure the world is asking questions about. Substantively no different from hijacking someone's myspace page or sending texts from someone else's phone. Kids life will be ruined as a political manoeuvre.

Indigen

@Nastro: the thing is... if he gets pregnant after being butt raped... he has to pay for his own rape kit. and it won't include the morning after pill!

x23

Someone made an unauthorized charge to my PayPal account. Should I call my district attorney now about initiating a criminal prosecution, or should I wait until I'm a major party's vice-presidential candidate?

DystoposB

its definitely a bad thing to do..... breaking into a mavericks email account.

imTheKing

@Dunny0, Team T/A: I agree, if someone hacks into my email account and post my pictures all over the internet, he wouldn't be getting a 5 year prison sentence. If I complained about it authorities would probably just tell me that I should've secured it better.

StarTropicana

@markarian: Just wait several months and we'll see if Obama can't change that. He'll bring change to that charge and have it changed so that the kid who got charged may have a change of heart and everything will change for the best.......change

Toastie

I agree, this is total bull. Yeah he's an idiot, he should be punished, but 5 years? Give me a break. If that's the case, give me 10 years, cause I've totally done the same thing to a friend and ex-girlfriend.

unibrow4o9

@mhlaxp: So, it's okay for some random kid to do an illegal search through someone's personal e-mail account in an attempt to find incriminating information about them, then post his findings to 4chan, because it happened to someone you don't like? Invasion of privacy is okay, as long as it's not a government agency doing it, and the victim is unpopular and/or a government official? That's ridiculous. The kid should get what's coming to him. That's how our justice system should work. Granted, this may have happened before with less punishment, but it probably didn't happen to such a highly visible target, and most perpetrators aren't so stupid as to incriminate themselves with so much damned evidence posted around in public view.

Griffehpoo

@20GB: The punishments they mentioned are most likely the absolute maximum that can be given for such an offense. I doubt that kid's going to get the full 5 years and $250,000 fine.

Griffehpoo

nelson voice:
ha! ha!

ford4life

@unibrow4o9: "...and faces up to 5 years in prison.."

Key words there are up to. He could face no time at all. He could face 60 hours of community service. He could face 5 years in prison. All they mentioned was the absolute maximum punishment.

Griffehpoo

@Nastro: Hey, we don't want to know what you've been doing for the last 6 months.

johnnyabnormal

Well, hope he likes cock.

Hardcore1

That's a pretty long sentence just for plugging in the answer to a security question; especially when Palin herself announced the answer to her security question on live television for millions of viewers to hear. Doh!

I hope they don't offer him up as a sacrificial donkey. Honestly, if you or I did the exact same thing to a nobody; we'd just get probation.

robinandtami

@lodleader: yes, palin is simple, thanks for pointing it out, lodleader.

Pixlmonkey

if it was someone hacking a Biden/Obama password, they would have gotten a mandatory "no, you shoudn't" 30-day probation. Just sayin'..

Pixlmonkey

It's a small price to pay for exposing that crazy woman for what she is...

DeanOfAllTrades

Sympathy for this kid? Come on, you are all getting soft. It is one thing to be a dumbass. But it is much worse if you are dumbass that tries to expose a dumbass in a dumb way.

Let the little bastard be a prison bitch for a couple of years.

getz76

The empath in me thinks this poor kid is surely scared shitless, I don't know how old he is but I'm sure if I were he I'd want to just delete myself.
Another part of me though sees that he did pick a bad person to hack. Sort of like duh, you shouldn't try to hack the FBI. Thats how I sort of compare it in my mind.
But then, back to my emotional side, I sort of feel that this terrifying experience would be enough of a punishment for the kid.

Wolfess

@Griffehpoo: I wouldn't really consider it invasion of privacy since, again, the Yahoo account was being used to illegally circumvent the Freedom of Information Act. If Palin hadn't used the Yahoo account then all of that information would have been publicly available. When you work for the government, your email is the government's email- they tell you that upfront, and it applies to all government employees, from the President (though good luck getting any information from this administration, I'm sure it's all classified or redacted or something) to your local librarian.

The law isn't always just, and there's such a thing as civil disobedience, which in my opinion is what this should fall under. Yes, it's still technically illegal, but so is breaking an encryption, even if it's professors at a university proving that a particular encryption method is flawed.

He'll either be prosecuted under the law, or justice will be served, but as things stand the two are mutually exclusive.

mhlaxp

Can't he just get retro active immunity like the telcos. I mean they allowed illegal searches on millions of people. I don't see anybody facing 5 years for that. Wasn't he just looking out for our best interest. Making sure she wasn't up to anything that might harm our government? Isn't he protecting us from a possible nut AKA terrorist from trying to get into office? That's what the telcos did right? WTF?

drugshovel

@antitrust311:
actually..... there is something illegal about having the account. Palin has a government email address that she is supposed to use for government business. Her having another email address for government business is so she can avoid FOIA requests, which by the way, is illegal.

absentmindedjwc

what does it matter? she's a religious nut!

darklybishop

@+: According to how he got access he would have had to change the password in the first place.

That, at the minimum, locks out the original user, even if only briefly - once they go through the challenge requests for confirming who they are.

It's still a felony and he only did it because he hates her - not because he wanted to do good by her. He'll get what he deserves.

unspellable

The kid was diggin' the MILF, that's all.

EricAlder

@EricAlder:
You think Palin is a MILF?

*Shuffles off to vomit violently.

DisposableInterloper

@nutbastard:
A few years ago, our governor Jesse " the body " Ventura's son had a huge party at the governor's mansion. They trashed semi-priceless paintings and art and walls etc. Nothing happened to him either. IIRC, it cost a couple hundred thousand to clean up/restore.

In the immortal words of John Fogerty:
" It aint me, it aint me, I aint no senator's son.
It aint me, it aint me, I aint no fortunate one."

TerryinSt.Paul

I think it is pretty ridiculous we give prison time to non-violent people. Honestly...prison was created to seperate society from rapists, murderers and the like. Not as a punishment for sending spam emails, defaulting on your taxes or hacking an email account.

Saboth

isn't 5 years a little excessive....? why prison time at all? he just guessed her passphrase. is that against the law?

MrBlahBlah

@20GB: +1

skilled1

I never said I was digging her, I said the kid was... and attractiveness is a subjective opinion.

(That's why there's someone for everyone, kid!)

EricAlder

i have no sympathy for the republicans cause they will destroy USA, but i have some sympathy for the guy

She did try to avoid some law by using her private address so i hope she would get to jail (perfect time anyway) and the kid community service
that way people know protect the email better then they used too
cause c'mon if it was so easy to break in then the owner failed to protect

TBM-Fan

Oh yea and that headshot of Palin makes me want to throw up every time I see it. Anyone else?

fsusmithc2

@absentmindedjwc:

But nobody is going to put her in jail though. That would just be....what's the word......oh yea... fair. We can't have fairness in this country, no no. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Big business does stupid crap and we bail them out but small business does the same thing and it's tough nuggets for them. Hack a politician's email and you're going to the slammer. Hack your neighbor's email and you're likely to just tick him off. You get caught speeding on the interstate, you get points and a huge fine depending on what kind of mood the cop is in. A politician or other important figure does the same and it's a warning. Oh yea and the cops can speed whenever they like with impunity but you never know when you might get caught doing it.

Nobody can deny how two-faced our justice system is. Nobody.

fsusmithc2

@Glare: What he did wasn't hacking. He's guilty with being able to look up simple questions on wikipedia at most.

wiregr

@markarian: The point is not that his father has any direct involvement in the justice process applied to his son. The point is that his father is a politician, and that simple fact means he will be given leeway that would never be granted to, if you'll allow me, Joe Sixpack.

Killjoy

@fsusmithc2: You are not alone.

johnnyabnormal

@getz76:

**Applause**

shooter

@DeanOfAllTrades:

Please, don't get me started on how scary Obama and Obiden are.

shooter

@fsusmithc2:

Oh yeah...reading posts like yours and johnnyabnormal (whose name says it all) makes *me* wanna throw up.

shooter

Please, he deserves far worse than what little punishment he'll get. Let's see how any of self righteous people would feel if something similar happened to you or another family member. When someone tries to screw another person in a bad way, it shouldn't matter if there is a D or an R after their name. If airhead Obama's blackberry had got lifted and all his emails with Rev Wright, Bill Ayers and ACORN had been published the media would have brought down a veritable hellstorm.

coolkiwilivin

@MrBlahBlah:

He hacked...he didn't just guess. If he had "just guessed" it, and didn't access the account, I don't believe there would be a problem. But, since he both hacked and accessed, that's a problem. Quit it with the excuse-making.

shooter

@drugshovel:

The telcos didn't act on their own, they were asked to provide the info by the US Government. This turd acted on his own. No sympathy.

shooter

@shooter: What's the gun? I can't get a Springfield XDm in California. Holds too many rounds.

johnnyabnormal

@shooter: Awww, thanks.

johnnyabnormal

@johnnyabnormal:

Bummer...that's one of the reasons I moved out of the People's Republic of Kalifornia.

Mine's a Sig P226, 15+1

shooter

@shooter: I'm leaning towards a Glock 21 right now, but we'll see. What do you like about the sig? Kali never kept a Libertarian from holding any gun. :)

johnnyabnormal

@Saboth:
Actually, prison (as we know it now in the USA) was invented to give criminals (in the eyes of the law, at least) a place separated from society such that they can meditate on whatever transgression they committed.

DisposableInterloper

@Xterm11: Wrong person looking at the reply. It was antitrust311
sorry crazy0000

Xterm11

This is dumb. crazy0000 said

"If he had done it to the average person nothing would have come of it, but he did it to a possible Vice President. Definitely not a good idea!"

That's so freaking stupid and pisses me off. So what if she is a possible VP. If he had done this to anyone else he would not be facing this charge. I think he did something good. he showed an extreme vulnerable point, what if someone with bad intent had run across these government e-mails after hacking in? If anyone should be facing charges it's Palin.

Xterm11

@fsusmithc2:
I think Liberapedia said it best:

"Sarah Palin used to be a beauty queen, but we have no idea why."

DisposableInterloper