Phones
Nokia 5800 XpressMusic: Hands-on With Nokia's First S60 Touch Phone
Posted by John Mahoney at 2:30 AM on October 3, 2008

The 5800 XpressMusic (aka Tube) is the first touchscreen Symbian S60 phone from Nokia--a surprising fact considering how prominent touchscreens have quickly become over the last few years. And instead of rolling out the new touch-specific S60 Fifth Edition on a flagship N-series phone, Nokia has decided to position the 5800 as a music phone for the kiddies, packaging it with their all-you-can-eat (and keep) Comes With Music service. This choice is probably a brilliant one, because after our quick demo, this thing needs a bit more time in the oven before it can stand with the big guys for a touchscreen-only device.
For a mid-range music phone with touch, though, the 5800 is pretty well equipped: 640x360 touchscreen with haptic response, Wi-Fi, A-GPS, 3G on the 850/1900 MHz band (works with AT&T here in the States), 3.2MP camera with Zeiss lens, and an 8GB microSD card for music in the box. But while the touchscreen is sharp and bright, it's resistive rather than capacitive, which means instead of accurately picking up the light zap of electricity from your fingertips, it registers where two thin layers of the screen get pushed together under your finger.
On the prototype we played with briefly, it's much harder to get touches to register, and far less accurate than the iPhone's capacitive screens. The 5800 packs a built-in stylus for this reason--you'll be using it a lot. Text entry can be done with a full-screen QWERTY, a mini-QWERTY for the stylus, T9 on a touch dialpad, or using handwriting recognition w/ stylus. It's almost exactly like what's found on Nokia's touchscreen internet tablets like the N810, which makes sense, since Nokia recently folded the tablet group in with the smartphone folks to help develop touch features for S60 v5.
Other touch-specific additions are a new Contacts bar similar to T-Mobile's myfaves that can replace application shortcuts--giving quick access to calling or texting your four favourite folks, as well as the option to add an RSS feed of that person's blog or Twitter updates. Application menus also appear on a nice translucent overlay in most applications instead of Symbian's usual pop-up lists, making the camera much easier to operate while switching options, for instance. And a dedicated button on the upper right brings up the Media Bar, which gives quick touch access to the music player, camera, contacts, and web browser at any time.
If you're used to Symbian's browser, you'll fit right at home with the touch version. Basically touching replaces the scrolling cursor for zooming and scrolling a page. It's a pretty solid experience, although pages still tend to load their mobile versions by default like in S60 v4.
For music the device looks capable--there's a 3.5mm headphone jack thank God, and 8GB of space on the included 8GB microSD. In the States, the 5800's price (which is not yet set, but the Euro version is €279/$US389) will include a year of Comes With Music downloads, which can then be kept. Going beyond Nokia's proprietary sync software (for iTunes, etc) will be like in any other Symbian phone--not super convenient. Comes With Music allows you to sync albums grabbed on the web to your device over 3G, though, which is nice.
The 5800 seems like a solid mid-level touch phone for music--especially if Comes With Music pans out as a cool service. But don't plan on using this thing for heavy emailing or texting--you'll probably be using T9 text entry with the touch dialpad or the stylus for most of your text entry unless you have the patience of a monk, which kind of defeats the point for an all-touch device these days. Look for it hitting before the end of the year for an as-yet-undisclosed price.


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DjCytosol
Posted 2:55 AM 3/10/08
Proof nokia cant do a decent touch device, honestly who wants to be punching the screen rather than a light tap?
DjCytosol
Denholm
Posted 2:52 AM 3/10/08
Looks decent, but I wish they would move past that old, crappy S60 OS. With the brilliant iPhone OS and Android just around the corner the Symbian S60 feels "last gen" rather than "next gen." It's functional, I guess, but so crippled and lackluster.
Denholm
Ken_Darrow
Posted 2:51 AM 3/10/08
Clunky and not a smooth UI throughout. Why is it so thick also? It's huge.
Ken_Darrow
Ryanraven
Posted 2:50 AM 3/10/08
Nokia, in general tries to get stuff right, which is why they are such a good phone company.
On another note, was this post supposed to have a jump or just be the longest front page giz post EVAR?
Ryanraven
iamnotdrtran
Posted 2:50 AM 3/10/08
@Kinglish: You wouldn't use a music phone to play music?
iamnotdrtran
stopcrazypp
Posted 2:50 AM 3/10/08
Looks like any of their old XpressMusic phones, not really anything that exciting.
stopcrazypp
aboriginal
Posted 2:38 AM 3/10/08
Appropriate track on the screen, IMO.
aboriginal
Kinglish
Posted 2:35 AM 3/10/08
That is cool but I would not use it to play music. how many music players can one have? That and I have big fingers!!
Kinglish
berbar
Posted 2:32 AM 3/10/08
When will the Xperia show up?
berbar
giyad
Posted 3:07 AM 3/10/08
that touchscreen seemed unresponsive.... i hope its just that one and not all of them
giyad
justinsane
Posted 2:59 AM 3/10/08
S60 used to be such a svelt little operating system. It was fast and responsive, even on the very first Series 60 phones. Its EPOC lineage was a big boost there.
For some reason, though, Nokia has slowed the thing down with each successive release. Tacking on features has made it slow and bloated, with ridiculous boot times and an unresponsive UI. Just look at how long it takes the UI to dig down a level from artist to album/track listing, or the browser to shift from portrait to landscape mode. Yuck!
Not to be an Apple fanboy, but they've managed to take a desktop/server OS and slim it down to buttery smooth performance in most use cases (contacts lag in 2.0 being the exception).
Nokia makes great hardware - absolutely first rate. But their software teams in Tampere and elsewhere just don't have the chops.
justinsane
Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude
Posted 2:56 AM 3/10/08
Lucius Fox approves!
Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude
Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude
Posted 3:33 AM 3/10/08
@DjCytosol: "who wants to be punching the screen rather than a light tap?"
I do when I'm making angry phone calls..
Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude
berbar
Posted 3:58 AM 3/10/08
No way Mr. Mahoney, you test a music phone using Enrique Iglesias? I might stop reading Gizmodo after this...
berbar
str88f
Posted 3:53 AM 3/10/08
The sigh at about 43 seconds from the end in the vid tells me enough... Either do a good, responsive touchscreen or just stick with regular buttons. Also, why does it take so long to flip from portrait to landscape ("hello")?
str88f
ezman
Posted 5:06 AM 3/10/08
@berbar: Dear goodness, you're 100% correct. Xperia will rock... but i'm getting impatient.
ezman
John Mahoney
Posted 5:28 AM 3/10/08
@berbar: Bring that point up with the Nokia dude whose phone we were using :)
John Mahoney
Harkonian
Posted 7:57 AM 3/10/08
A bunch of 5800 vids can be found on Nokia's Ovi Share:
[share.ovi.com]
Harkonian
Clancycoop
Posted 9:01 AM 3/10/08
I would dance... if you asked me to dance...
Clancycoop
atheos
Posted 8:26 PM 3/10/08
In my opinion that's one ugly piece of hardware. And thick. And WTF, resistive touch screen? Is it because it's so damn cold here in Finland that you'll be using the thing mostly with your gloves on?
atheos
saicode
Posted 12:36 AM 4/10/08
@atheos: In Finland iPhone seems to be more popular among high-end user than Nokia E or N series phones.
saicode
saicode
Posted 12:35 AM 4/10/08
Lousy hardware, outdated software!
Who want's it?!
saicode
DJTripleRRR
Posted 2:33 AM 4/10/08
Agreed Nokia's software is no where near as good as the OS on iPhone but I bet you the iPhone was in development was longer than the 5800, besides they used a demo phone, you'll probably find they'll make the OS a little smother before it comes out like HTC did with there fix for there interface. iPhone was kept hidden until it was perfect but these other company's can't take that luxury because they have to try and get into the competition as soon as possible hence why there UI don't come close. Nokia left it a while longer so there UI is a little more ironed out that most I mean look how much it's improved from that demo they had out at the beginning of the year that you all complained about?
DJTripleRRR
jazzcool
Posted 7:17 AM 3/10/08
OK so while checking out a fully featured smart phone - touch-gps-wifi cell - the finish line rounds up the following worth considering:
iPhone - OS X - well this would be the sleekest of them all, yet for a user like me - lots of problems - no local support (iPhone not sold here, no plans w local carriers) and therefor i am into the "breaking/pawnig/ hacking".. no thanks.
samsung omnia - win6 OS - well, i was about to get it, but a moment from buying the honest sells person (that also wanted me to get something else on the way) told me 8 out of 10 return the phone after complaining sluggish response, crashes and s**t.. not for the faint of heart.
google android - motorola? htc? well, not bad as it seems, waiting for a better design, and a local plan (or w/o a plan - better). only thing would be the big relay on your google account.. big brother conspiracy? dokno...
NEO freerunner - OS openmoko == LINUX- seems to be the most promising - but with this design no way they would conquer ppls hearts. linux developers still think the same, no matter computers or cellphones, design is everything ppl!
call me "old school" but i'm still stuck with my (very) old nokia 3120
[usuarios.lycos.es]
jazzcool
crackle
Posted 11:41 AM 4/10/08
@DJTripleRRR: iphone was hidden until it was perfect?
I know what you're trying to say, except you said it all wrong. :-)
crackle
crackle
Posted 11:40 AM 4/10/08
@atheos: interesting point about phone usage in cold weather. resistive would still be a pain in the ass if you have thick gloves anyway. perhaps you can get some special skin tipped gloves! :)
crackle
crackle
Posted 11:39 AM 4/10/08
@giyad: such is the case with resistive touchscreens. after you touch the display, then you will feel comfortable applying the right amount of pressure to register. to do it all in one fluid motion you'd have to slam your finger into the screen and you would lose accuracy.
crackle