I would imagine the camera is only interesting if you're a young kid without a cell phone, or someone who loves applications that allow you to put mustaches on people.

Note, if you are an adult who uses this for casual photography, be prepared to hear "are you seriously taking a picture with your GameBoy?" Any if you correct that person by saying "It's a Nintendo DS, not a GameBoy," be prepared to loose even more self respect.

aquaosx

I bet there'll be new games that use the cameras. Dual touchscreens?

Gibberish

hm. so let me get this straight... my camera has (is) a camera, my phone has a camera, my ds now has a camera... when will everyone learn that the way to make a product better and more exciting is NOT to add a crappy low-res, small sensor camera to everything. i'd be much happier if they left the camera off and just increased battery life or gave it a oled status screen on the outside.

boydknife

@Scaramanga: 0.3? Ughhh. Even the bargain basement AT&T phones I see at the store can do better than that. Considering this thing is by no means cheap ($180 plus tax), I'd have expected better of the camera.

Thankfully, that's not the killer feature in my book. The SD slot is.

Anticitizen

@poisonfist: it has more memory now.

VakeroRokero

i could see a handful of idiots going out to buy one of these things as a replacement to their broken digital cameras thinking that it's better to hit two birds with one stone.

theogcasey

giz is so much better than engadget...oh, and can't wait til the new ds comes out :)

mangamonster

@soccer1105: fake!!

totally kidding.

theogcasey

The camera is not 3 megapixel, it's 300,000 pixels aka 640 x 480

James D

@superduperadam: Holly Hell! I thought people who yelled "fake" at everything were extinct by now; but look! There's still one douche bag left!

You must be really stupid to show yourself in public, no wonder the rest of you are dead.

soccer1105

I hope their web browser gets a good revamp. I don't think I've experienced such frustration and agony browsing the web. Opera mini on a cellphone was a better experience. Also, if they haven't fixed the problem of not implementing WPA, they should just omit the DS browser altogether.

poisonfist

@electrolemon: why not both?

Adrian Covert

This news is better than hearing about the weekly Nokia/Motorola phone releases.

Earthslide

@snowbeach024:
There are 2 cameras.

poisonfist

Its 0.3 megapixels not 3 megapixels. It also seems you get two cameras.

Scaramanga

@Anticitizen:

I too would like to know if they're supporting SDHC. I sure hope so.

dead_red_eyes

i preclude that within a month the SD slot will be hacked to load roms. after complaining about the R4DS theyre making it even easier

elislider

@superduperadam:

You're either a dolt or a troll.

electrolemon

I'm looking toward the SD slot. Hackers will have a field day with homebrew on this thing if they can find a way to break into the system software via an SD card.

...But, does it support SDHC?

Anticitizen

Also, I wonder if this is how they're planning on combatting the whole piracy thing, by adding a store and such.

dead_red_eyes

Glad that I waited until now to buy a DS lite. This ol' phatty is still trucking along tho.

dead_red_eyes

no matter how many megapixels I bet the camera sucks

laxman15

Honestly, I don't find that at all compelling. The bigger screen is nice, but it's not enough of an improvement to upgrade, and I do play GBA games on mine with some regularity.

Canthros

It will be released in Japan November 1st for about $179.

I'm not too impressed, but we'll see how far it goes.

Elk

@snowbeach024:
I heard it was 4 Gb. Can't confirm that, however.

Benjammn

hello

reactionsok

@snowbeach024: I think thats the microphone

laxman15

@ZetaCrossfire:
We might get downloadable games though. That's better than no GB games. :D

PLUS, integrated browser, internal storage...:)

Benjammn

i posted on kotaku land..but may be someone can answer from gizmodo:

questionss..which i'm sure will be answered later..but i'm curious.

is the camera lens on the top of the camera, behind the top screen like the picture? what's the lens looking shape near the mic?

and if it has a casual use 3 mp camera..what's the DSi's memory capacity?

snowbeach024

fake

superduperadam

i was hoping for regular GB game support... wow i got fked

ZetaCrossfire

I think Nintendo hope that people will enjoy using the camera and uploading the pics to their Wii via SD card to show off to their family. Of course, most cameras and phones can do this already.

It might be worth waiting for the inevitable DSi revision, DSi Miami

marcus_ivo

now before you criticize the camera as useless, wait until we see what the game integration is going to be like.
i mean, yeah, we all know a crappy 640x480 camera is in lots of mobile devices now. it's not news to anyone that it's fairly useless and redundant.
but the games, wait for the games to pass judgment.

nbenko

@elislider:
so... you're going to prevent that from happening?

nbenko

Yeah. Sadly it isn't a 3MP camera. It's just a 640x480. Obviously for taking pics just right for a standard Def TV. The 3MP mishap comes from them saying 300,000 pixels, which was thought to be 3MP by the writer. But it could still open a whole 'nother realm of gaming, yet again for Nintendo.

crispyflame

@reactionsok: ...aaand goodbye, again. This is exactly how to invoke the banhammer.

You won't be missed.

papaguru

@laxman15: At one third of a megapixel, it's guaranteed. :)

Slash3

@ZetaCrossfire:

i know how you feel wel at least that means all you need is the nintendo sp and this one to beabe to play all your games

Izy2091

Does it have support for WPA2 wireless security?

And i just bought my sweet green DS Lite, I love the color! :D
don't really need all those extra's though, I already have a mp3 player, don't need a camera, and the browser... whatever.

zyberteq

Am I right in thinking that .3 megapixels is more akin to a webcam image than an actual camera image? Possible webcam functionality of some sort? or at least some sort of video over still image? Ds is web capable and .3 Megapix would make for a pretty nice webcam for kids playing mario. I can imagine the bottom screen split four ways with four webcam images in it. Although it wont happen, it would be good.

xshortx

.3 MP is damn ridiculous.

.endejas.

Give me an eReader e-book reader and I will be VERY happy. The DS would be a natural e-book reader!

gadjitfreek

I know a bunch of noobs but even they would probably know this wouldn't be a replacement for a real camera...then again...yea I could see a handful of idiots doing it...

entropy26

@laxman15:
I second that at least after a bit of use I dont know about other people but my ds gets beat up a little in my pocket im scared the camera will just break dose it even have a lense cover?

Izy2091

@snowbeach024:

i think two cameras one for normal use the othe for in game use and as for the memory "SD memory card slot" the largest reasonable one ive heard of is currently at 8GB

Izy2091

@superduperadam:

I'm actually hopping youre right or at least this isn't the final version it looks kind of ugly to me kind of like a ds lite with holes drilled in it please tell me it at least has a lenses cover. but there really is a new ds

Izy2091

That is so sexy!!

Kinglish

It's not released everywhere else until "sometime next year"? Surely that means the sales will grind to a near halt in all countries waiting for the newer one?

Also, my DS Lite broke 2 weeks ago and when I went to buy a new one I was shocked to discover that the price was EXACTLY the same as it was when I bought the one that broke - 2 and a half years ago. I would have expected at least a 15-20% price cut to have happened somewhere along the line. That made me decide to wait a few months to see if something new comes along - glad I did!

craig_16

Actually, it can't play MP3s, just AAC files. Nintendo are dropping MP3 entirely, right now the only things they make that play it are the old DS MP3 player and the old version of the Photo Channel.

Sockatume

I look the same as the "DS light"

Kinglish

Finally a rumor that become's true.

m-p{3}

.3 megapixel camera? P.O.S!

ddtx2

Seriously, is Nintendo even trying anymore? None of this crap is innovative, it's just adding stuff on that could have been in the first generation if they just raised the price the first time around. Wii HD! Coulda and shoulda been HD when it launched. DSi, all they did was bumb up the screen size and throw a dollar store digital camera in it.

LankySean

I hope they added WPA support and more RAM for the lack of GBA slot (Nintendo DS Browser). If that's not the case, I'll stay with my R4 and NDSL for the multimedia playback.

m-p{3}

@aquaosx: I'm an adult with a cell phone, but no camera phone as any phone that uses SD as a storage medium is much more than I want to pay, and is too bloated with useless "features", that just drain the battery that much faster.

I think people's reaction will be much different, every time someone on the train or in the lunchroom at work asks what I'm holding (A DS) they all want to play it, being able to take a picture with it will make it that much more cool in some people's eyes.

Also my self respect isn't based of off what people think of my gaming device.

Ayanami

I want
- a slightly better CPU (not likely)
- integrated RAM to make the Nintendo DS Browser work without the RAM GBA cartridge
- Decent audio output on headphone for music listening
- WPA support

m-p{3}

I wonder if it supports WPA Wifi (unlike the DSLite), otherwise, the added features are a bit ho-hum. This feels like the gameboy pocket of DS releases.

phi

@marcus_ivo: WAHAHAHA!!!

Nintenboy01

Oh no! The screen size may be slightly bigger but I bet the resolution is still 256 x 192. That means the individual pixels will be larger and even more obvious.
I actually preferred the smaller screen of the GB micro to the GBA SP due to the tighter dot pitch.

Nintenboy01

It looks like the core specs are the same as the old DS models so it makes me wonder if any software will REQUIRE the DSi's new features like the camera.
Honestly I think Nintendo should have held off first and released a true GameCube-level successor to the DS in 2010.

Nintenboy01

I do want one. But... is that it?

Atriel

.3 MP camera just show how cheap nintendo has become

mpar

I thought is does NOT play MP3, just AAC

Sora57

Any mention of wi-fi supporting more encryption then just WEP? Now that I'm living out in the middle of nowhere it's not that big of a deal to use WEP since there's nobody sniffing around to practice their hacking skills. But for people living in the city they are just asking for trouble if they use WEP encryption.

CaptCaveman

Im perfectly happy with my current DS Lite.

surfer88

i liked the looks of the one from yesterday better

godwhacker

I hope it has the same slot for DS games. Meaning, R4 still works...

aliskaba

@Anticitizen: Considering how the Wii doesn't support sdhc cards, and Nintendo wants the DS to play nice with the Wii, I'd say odds are low.

wiregr

I'd like to see you be able to load Virtual Console games from the Wii to play on your DS through the SD slot. That would be awesome cross-compatability.

Also, Link's Awakening and other GB games on the new DS Store plz.

Marcelo

When do they add the phone feature? Cause a Nintendo Phone would be pretty cool...

philibuster

One: What. The. FUCK? A VGA camera? Come on.

Two: STOP PUTTING CAMERAS ON EVERYTHING! Dedicated device > combo!

Three: Megapixels only get you so far! You need a real lens at a certain point!

Four: Good luck a the Springsteen concert with THIS!

Con Seannery

@soccer1105: Nah, he's fake...

Con Seannery

@laxman15: Its a VGA camera probably.

Mannyatic

@boydknife: I think the camera is mainly for integrating it into games, not for taking pics of just anything for whatever reason

Hamburger-helper

WTH? All this waiting for a... VGA camera?!.

bratinella

I read this on Kotaku too. Is the megapixel a typo? What's the point of having a camera if its just .3 megapixel? Seems gimmicky. My phone is a quarter the size of that with a 2.2 megapixel camera.

AngusCybele

wheres the wii like capabilities? updated graphics? 3 touch screens! I want my next gen DS. Now.

AbaNimpimplah

The first video example of how it works here: tubedirects.net/index.php?q=nintendo-dsi Very cooool !!!!

CandaceSagan

The first video example of how it works here: http://tubedirects.net/index.php?q=nintendo-dsi Very cooool !!!!

CandaceSagan