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Next-Generation MacBook Ditches Plastic, Becomes MacBook Pro Mini
Posted by John Mahoney at 3:39 AM on October 15, 2008

Joining the MacBook Pro, Apple's MacBooks, their best-selling mac ever, also received a complete hardware re-tooling today, with rejuvenated hardware packed inside a brand-new aluminium case, thus putting one of the final stakes in the heart of white and black plastic in the computer line (the original plastic MacBook is still available, at a reduced $US999 price) and linking the consumer and pro notebooks under the same design vocabulary for the first time.
•Built with the "Brick" manufacturing process that casts the entire notebook's frame from a single piece of aluminium (removing cut-out pieces, rather than bolting on additions), the Air-inspired chassis takes the formerly dorm-roomy vibe of the previous iteration and fully wraps it into Apple's more grown-up polished-aluminum-and-black-glass design philosophy that Mr. Ive has been cranking on of late.
•The rumoured Nvidia chipset is now in, with a brand new Nvidia 9400M discrete GPU replacing Intel's integrated graphics. It has 16 parallel graphics cores, pushes 54 Gigaflops and runs up to 5 times faster than Intel Integrated graphics (huge). It's the same card found in the MacBook Pros, but without the secondary Nvidia unit.
•The 13.3" LED-backlit screen features the same corner-to-corner glass cover as the MBP. The LED 30% more power efficient.
•Like the MBP, the MacBook also meets EPEAT Gold certification for energy and manufacturing green-ness, and has 42% smaller packaging size.
•5 hours of stated battery life.
•It's a "half-pound lighter" than the previous MacBooks and 2.4cm thick, and weight is 2.0kg.
•Also brand new is Apple's next generation glass multitouch trackpad, which eschews a traditional button in favour of making the pad itself the only button. New four-finger multitouch gestures (four!) for exposé and app switching, and multi-button clicks are done via software.
•The low-end $US1099 model has been dropped (old MBs available now for $US999), leaving only the 2.0GHz/160GB/2MB RAM/Superdrive for $US1299 and the 2.4 GHz/250GB for $US1599--much to the chagrin of those looking for the rumoured sub-$US1000 NEW notebook. A 128GB SSD is available on the top end, with no price mentioned.
•Shipping TODAY, and available in-store tomorrow. It seems like they're hyping the MacBook hard, with a new commercial showing the fabrication process and the powerful new Nvidia graphics.
•"In many ways I think it's more beautiful internally than it is externally" - Ive.
Full, incredibly long press release covering both the MacBooks and MacBook Pros:
New MacBook Family Redefines Notebook Design
Industry's Greenest NotebooksCUPERTINO, California--October 14, 2008--Apple® today unveiled an all new MacBook® family that redefines notebook design, and at the same time dramatically lowers the entry price for advanced notebook features including all-metal enclosures and pro-performance notebook graphics by $700 to make them far more affordable. The new MacBook and 15-inch MacBook Pro both have a precision unibody enclosure crafted from a single block of aluminium, resulting in thinner, more durable and incredibly beautiful designs. In addition, every member of the new MacBook family includes state of the art NVIDIA graphics, brilliant instant-on LED-backlit displays and new large glass Multi-Touch™ trackpads that offer almost 40 percent more tracking area and support more Multi-Touch gestures. The entire new MacBook family meets stringent Energy Star 4.0, EPEAT Gold and RoHS environmental standards, and leads the industry in the elimination of toxic chemicals by containing no brominated flame retardants, using only PVC-free internal cables and components, and using energy efficient LED-backlit displays that are mercury-free and made with arsenic-free glass.
"Apple has invented a whole new way of building notebooks from a single block of aluminium. And, just as important, they are the industry's greenest notebooks," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "The new MacBooks offer incredible features our users will love --like their stunning all-metal design, great 3D graphics and LED backlit displays--at prices up to $700 less than before."
"Traditionally notebooks are made from multiple parts. With the new MacBook, we've replaced all of those parts with just one part--the unibody," said Jonathan Ive, Apple's senior vice president of Industrial Design. "The MacBook's unibody enclosure is made from a single block of aluminium, making the new MacBook fundamentally thinner, stronger and more robust with a fit and finish that we've never even dreamed of before."
The new MacBook line features the powerful new NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, a revolutionary new 3D integrated graphics processor that features 16 parallel processing cores and delivers up to five times the 3D graphics performance as previous MacBook and MacBook Air™ designs. Apple has worked together with NVIDIA on this groundbreaking graphics processor and is the first to bring it to market in the new MacBook family.
The new smooth glass Multi-Touch trackpad on the MacBook and 15-inch MacBook Pro gives users almost 40 percent more tracking area than before, making it even easier to use Multi-Touch gestures like pinch, rotate and swipe. New gestures allow users to activate Exposé® or switch between applications at the touch of a fingertip. The entire trackpad surface is also a button, allowing users to both track and click virtually anywhere on the trackpad. Users can easily enable multiple virtual buttons in software, such as right-clicking.
Every member of the new MacBook family features an LED-backlit display for brilliant instant-on performance that uses up to 30 percent less energy than its predecessor and eliminates the mercury found in industry standard fluorescent tube backlights. The ultra-thin displays provide crisp images and vivid colours which are ideal for viewing photos and movies, and the edge-to-edge cover glass creates a smooth, seamless surface. Every display in the new MacBook line uses completely arsenic-free glass.
The new MacBook delivers the top three features that MacBook customers have told us they want in a new MacBook--an all metal enclosure, high performance 3D graphics and LED-backlit displays--at an entry price that is $700 less than the $1,999 price of the MacBook Pro. At only 0.95-inches thin and weighing just 4.5 pounds, the new 13-inch full featured aluminium MacBook is an incredibly compact and durable notebook starting at just $1,299. Featuring the new NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor, MacBook delivers outstanding 3D game play on a consumer notebook, with up to five times faster graphics performance than the previous generation. The new MacBook is available in two models: the 2.0 GHz MacBook with a 160GB 5400 rpm hard drive, and the 2.4 GHz MacBook with a 250GB 5400 rpm hard drive and a backlit keyboard.
The powerful new 15-inch MacBook Pro at only 0.95-inches thin and weighing just 5.5 pounds offers ultimate performance and extensive expansion features in a remarkably portable design. Starting at $1,999, the MacBook Pro uses the latest Intel Core 2 Duo processors available, running up to 2.8 GHz, and a new graphics architecture that allows users to switch between the NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics processor for better battery life and the powerful NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT discrete graphics processor for higher performance. The new MacBook Pro is available in two models: a 2.4 GHz model with a 250GB 5400 rpm hard drive and a 2.53 GHz model with a 320GB 5400 rpm hard drive.
Today Apple also updated MacBook Air and the 17-inch MacBook Pro. MacBook Air, measuring only 0.16-inches at its thinnest point, 0.76-inches at its maximum height and weighing just three pounds, now includes new NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics and a faster architecture to provide robust support for 3D games and enhanced performance. Starting at $1,799, MacBook Air is available with a 120GB 4200 rpm hard drive, a 50 percent increase from the previous generation, or a new 128GB solid state drive. The updated 17-inch MacBook Pro keeps its original aluminium design, and now comes standard with a high resolution 1920 x 1200 LED-backlit display and a larger 320GB hard drive or an optional 128GB solid state drive.
Setting a new standard for environmentally friendly notebooks, every model of the new MacBook family achieves EPEAT Gold status.* Each MacBook unibody enclosure is made of highly recyclable aluminium and comes standard with energy efficient LED-backlit displays that are mercury-free and made with arsenic-free glass. The new MacBook family meets stringent Energy Star 4.0 requirements, contains no brominated flame retardants and uses internal cables and components that are PVC-free.
The new MacBook, 15-inch MacBook Pro and MacBook Air include a next generation, industry-standard Mini DisplayPort to connect with the new Apple LED Cinema Display featuring a 24-inch LED-backlit widescreen display with a built-in iSight® video camera, mic and speakers in an elegant, thin aluminium and glass enclosure. Part of the next-generation DisplayPort industry standard, the new Mini DisplayPort delivers a pure digital signal that can drive up to a 30-inch widescreen display. The Mini DisplayPort is ultra-compact at just 10 percent the size of a full DVI connector, perfect for the sleek design of the new MacBook family. Adapters are available for using the MacBook's Mini DisplayPort with older generation VGA, DVI/HDMI and Dual-Link DVI displays.
Every Mac® in the Apple lineup comes with iLife® '08, Apple's award-winning suite of digital lifestyle applications, featuring iPhoto®, the easiest, fastest way to organize and share digital photos, and a completely reinvented iMovie®, both seamlessly integrated with the MobileMe™ Gallery for online photo and video sharing.** Every Mac also includes Leopard®, the world's most advanced operating system which features Time Machine™,*** an effortless way to automatically back up everything on a Mac; a redesigned Finder™ that lets users quickly browse and share files between multiple Macs; Quick Look, the best way to instantly see files without opening an application; Spaces®, an intuitive feature used to create groups of applications and instantly switch between them; and major enhancements to Mail and iChat®.****
Pricing & Availability
The new MacBook, 15-inch MacBook Pro and 17-inch MacBook Pro are now shipping and the new MacBook Air will be available in early November through the Apple Store® (www.apple.com), Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorised Resellers. An updated 13-inch white MacBook featuring 2.1 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processors, a 120GB 5400 rpm hard drive and a slot-load 8X SuperDrive® is now available for $999 (US).The 2.0 GHz, 13-inch aluminium MacBook, for a suggested retail price of $1,299 (US), includes:
* 13.3-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1280 x 800 glossy display;
* 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 3MB shared L2 cache;
* 1066 MHz front-side bus;
* 2GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable to 4GB;
* NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics;
* 160GB serial ATA hard drive running at 5400 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor;
* a slot-load 8X SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) optical drive;
* Mini DisplayPort for video output (adapters sold separately);
* built-in AirPort Extreme® 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
* Gigabit Ethernet port;
* built-in iSight video camera;
* two USB 2.0 ports;
* one audio line in and one audio line out port, each supporting both optical digital and analog;
* glass Multi-Touch trackpad; and
* 60 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter.The 2.4 GHz aluminium MacBook, for a suggested retail price of $1,599 (US), includes:
* 13.3-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1280 x 800 glossy display;
* 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 3MB shared L2 cache;
* 1066 MHz front-side bus;
* 2GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable to 4GB;
* NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics;
* 250GB serial ATA hard drive running at 5400 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor;
* a slot-load 8X SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) optical drive;
* Mini DisplayPort for video output (adapters sold separately);
* built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
* Gigabit Ethernet port;
* built-in iSight video camera;
* two USB 2.0 ports;
* one audio line in and one audio line out port, each supporting both optical digital and analog;
* glass Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard; and
* 60 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter.Build-to-order options for the MacBook include the ability to upgrade to 4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, a 250GB 5400 rpm, 320GB 5400 rpm hard drive, a 128GB solid state drive, Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adaptor, Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adaptor (for 30-inch DVI display), Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adaptor, Apple USB Modem, Apple Remote, Apple MagSafe Airline Adaptor and the AppleCare® Protection Plan.
The 2.4 GHz, 15-inch aluminium MacBook Pro, for a suggested retail price of $1,999 (US), includes:
* 15.4-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1440 x 900 glossy display;
* 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 3MB shared L2 cache;
* 1066 MHz front-side bus;
* 2GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, expandable to 4GB;
* NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics;
* NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT discrete graphics with 256MB GDDR3 video memory;
* 250GB serial ATA hard drive running at 5400 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor;
* a slot-load 8X SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) optical drive;
* Mini DisplayPort for video output (adapters sold separately);
* built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
* Gigabit Ethernet port;
* built-in iSight video camera;
* two USB 2.0 ports;
* one FireWire® 800 port;
* ExpressCard/34 expansion card slot;
* one audio line in and one audio line out port, each supporting both optical digital and analog;
* glass Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard; and
* 85 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter.The 2.53 GHz aluminium MacBook Pro, for a suggested retail price of $2,499 (US), includes:
* 15.4-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1440 x 900 glossy display;
* 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 6MB shared L2 cache;
* 1066 MHz front-side bus;
* 4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM;
* NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics;
* NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT discrete graphics with 512MB GDDR3 video memory;
* 320GB serial ATA hard drive running at 5400 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor;
* a slot-load 8X SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) optical drive;
* Mini DisplayPort for video output (adapters sold separately);
* built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
* Gigabit Ethernet port;
* built-in iSight video camera;
* two USB 2.0 ports;
* one FireWire 800 port;
* ExpressCard/34 expansion card slot;
* one audio line in and one audio line out port, each supporting both optical digital and analog;
* glass Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard; and
* 85 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter.Build-to-order options for the MacBook Pro include a 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, the ability to upgrade to 4GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM, 250GB 7200 rpm, 320GB 5400 rpm or a 320GB 7200 rpm hard drive, a 128GB solid state drive, Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adaptor, Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adaptor (for 30-inch DVI display), Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adaptor, Apple USB Modem, Apple Remote, Apple MagSafe Airline Adaptor and the AppleCare Protection Plan.
The 1.6 GHz MacBook Air, for a suggested retail price of $1,799 (US), includes:
* 13.3-inch widescreen LED-backlit high resolution 1280 x 800 glossy display;
* 1.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 6MB shared L2 cache;
* 1066 MHz front-side bus;
* 2GB 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM;
* NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics;
* 120GB serial ATA hard drive running at 4200 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor;
* Mini DisplayPort for video output (adapters sold separately);
* built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
* built-in iSight video camera;
* one USB 2.0 port;
* one headphone port;
* Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard; and
* 45 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter.The 1.86 GHz MacBook Air, for a suggested retail price of $2,499 (US), includes:
* 13.3-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1280 x 800 glossy display;
* 1.86 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 6MB shared L2 cache;
* 1066 MHz front-side bus;
* 2GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM;
* NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics;
* 128GB solid state drive;
* Mini DisplayPort for video output (adapters sold separately);
* built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
* built-in iSight video camera;
* one USB 2.0 port;
* one headphone port;
* Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard; and
* 45 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter.Build-to-order options and accessories for the MacBook Air include the MacBook Air SuperDrive, Apple USB Ethernet Adaptor, Mini DisplayPort to DVI Adaptor, Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adaptor (for 30-inch DVI display), Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adaptor, Apple USB Modem, Apple MagSafe Airline Adaptor, Apple Remote and the AppleCare Protection Plan.
The 2.5GHz 17-inch MacBook Pro, for a suggested retail price of $2,799 (US), includes:
* 17-inch widescreen LED-backlit 1920 x 1200 glossy display;
* 2.5 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 6MB shared L2 cache;
* 800 MHz front-side bus;
* 4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM;
* NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 512MB with GDDR3 video memory;
* 320GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 5400 rpm, with Sudden Motion Sensor;
* a slot-load 8X SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) optical drive;
* DVI output port for video output (VGA adaptor included);
* built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11n wireless networking and Bluetooth 2.1+EDR;
* Gigabit Ethernet port;
* built-in iSight video camera;
* three USB 2.0 ports;
* one FireWire 800 port and one FireWire 400 port;
* ExpressCard/34 expansion card slot;
* one audio line in and one audio line out port, each supporting both optical digital and analog;
* Multi-Touch trackpad and illuminated keyboard; and
* 85 Watt MagSafe Power Adapter.Build-to-order options for the 17-inch MacBook Pro include a 2.6 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, a 320GB 7200 rpm hard drive, a 128GB solid state drive, anti-glare display, Apple USB Modem, Apple Remote, Apple MagSafe Airline Adaptor and the AppleCare Protection Plan.
*EPEAT is an independent organisation that helps customers compare the environmental performance of notebooks and desktops. Products meeting all of the 23 required criteria and at least 75 percent of the optional criteria are recognised as EPEAT Gold products. The EPEAT program was conceived by the US EPA and is based on IEEE 1680 standard for Environmental Assessment of Personal Computer Products. For more information visit www.epeat.net.
**The MobileMe service is available to persons aged 13 or older. Annual membership fee and internet access required. Terms and conditions apply.
***Time Machine requires an additional hard drive (sold separately).
****Video chatting requires a broadband Internet connection; fees may apply.
Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation with its award-winning computers, OS X operating system and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital media revolution with its iPod portable music and video players and iTunes online store, and has entered the mobile phone market with its revolutionary iPhone.

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RE-L
Posted 5:22 AM 15/10/08
@kuba.la: Read the liveblog.
RE-L
chillywilly
Posted 5:20 AM 15/10/08
@Gizmometer: A sad day for Firewire 400 on both the MacBook line and the MacBook Pro line. I wonder if they are going to be including a Firewire 800 to 400 adapter... I doubt it.
chillywilly
almostdvs
Posted 5:20 AM 15/10/08
boo on price jump. similar spec'd macbook white vs.macbook metal is a $500 jump too bad i want that chipset and won't mind multitouch. (2.4ghz 4gb ram, protection plan)
almostdvs
baltwade
Posted 5:20 AM 15/10/08
@atomriot: I actually like the white plastic more than the aluminum. Everything is going the way of "brushed" aluminum or nickle or stainless. It's going to be for the early 2000's what wood paneling was for the 70's.
How about a wood panel MB???
baltwade
Deflicted
Posted 5:19 AM 15/10/08
My money was ready to be handed over to Apple until I looked on the the UK Apple store and saw the prices. Ouch.
Deflicted
Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude
Posted 5:18 AM 15/10/08
Pfftt.... no backlit keyboard. You suck Apple!.
Actually it's not bad and the entire notebook line at least matches in style now....
Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude
howdytex
Posted 5:18 AM 15/10/08
@Kaiser-Machead's WALL-E n' Cookie references:
Yep, no more FireWire on MacBooks = fail, IMHO.
howdytex
middy
Posted 5:18 AM 15/10/08
@OletheaEurystheus: Gates never wears a suit. Perhaps you meant sweater?
middy
Hilo
Posted 5:18 AM 15/10/08
@atomriot: Also, correct me if I'm wrong (and I may be) but, in regard to "with a brand new Nvidia 9400M discrete GPU replacing Intel's integrated graphics," isn't the Nvidia 9400M also an integrated solution?
Hilo
Kaiser-Machead's WALL-E n' Cookie references
Posted 5:16 AM 15/10/08
UM...wtf I just noticed what someone else pointed out. No more firewire port? WTF.
Kaiser-Machead's WALL-E n' Cookie references
OletheaEurystheus
Posted 5:16 AM 15/10/08
@dambo29: All the manufacturers are killing matte now. We just had a issue with Dell machines where one of our admins wanted one in matte and they dont offer it.
OletheaEurystheus
hologon
Posted 5:16 AM 15/10/08
@KStrike155:
I'm with you. What does the MBP get? More VRAM, a slightly bigger screen... is that it for your $500? I thought I saw a report that the MBP has an option of a 2.8Ghz processor, but it doesn't appear to be so. (AppleStore is being pounded to hell right now.)
I don't mind paying the extra half grand, but what's the value proposition? =/
hologon
snitch29
Posted 5:16 AM 15/10/08
LED Screens Baby
snitch29
kuba.la
Posted 5:15 AM 15/10/08
So no word about 17" model, no word about blue ray...what a pitty
kuba.la
OletheaEurystheus
Posted 5:15 AM 15/10/08
@Gizmometer: agreed, I used 400 all the time for work on our district macs in target disk mode. While the new ones can use USB2, the G3 models which we still have over 500 of do not. Guess Im not upgrading in a couple months when my warrantee runs out.
OletheaEurystheus
srdailey
Posted 5:14 AM 15/10/08
@Jonathan21: they did. read the liveblog.
srdailey
Captain Nobody
Posted 5:14 AM 15/10/08
is it just me or does the new macbook have no speakers?
Captain Nobody
baltwade
Posted 5:13 AM 15/10/08
@OletheaEurystheus: I agree. It's not that Apple makes the most expensive computer, because they don't...not even close. It's that all of their computers are some what expensive.
baltwade
tamoko
Posted 5:13 AM 15/10/08
@yuriythebest: That's funny, from reading your profile, you have only one friend and one follower.... so it looks like barely anyone cares about you either.
tamoko
pdditty
Posted 5:13 AM 15/10/08
@KStrike155: Ohh ok, thanks for clearing that up for me
pdditty
OletheaEurystheus
Posted 5:12 AM 15/10/08
@gymtonic: US store is crapping out right now.
OletheaEurystheus
Herman
Posted 5:12 AM 15/10/08
@ibelli: You are correct.
Herman
Johnny Chimpo
Posted 5:12 AM 15/10/08
by looks of it, apple has reworked the education discounts too. $50 old MB. $100 new MB and MBP.
used to be $100 MB and $200 MBP. boo
Johnny Chimpo
Jonathan21
Posted 5:11 AM 15/10/08
Why did no one ask about a Mac netbook during the Q&A?
Jonathan21
ttech10
Posted 5:11 AM 15/10/08
@SgtBeavis: Yea it's nothing that makes me want to rush out and upgrade. Too me it only just looks nicer... which I really don't care that much about.
ttech10
KStrike155
Posted 5:10 AM 15/10/08
@pdditty: They didn't ditch it. The new model is on top of the old one, and they lowered the price of the entry-level model by $100.
KStrike155
HairyOctopus
Posted 5:10 AM 15/10/08
There is major price creep in the UK, the base Macbook now costing over £900 when the old White one cost £799.
Looking at the whole range they have certainly gone further in pricing themselves out of the mainstream market.
HairyOctopus
gymtonic
Posted 5:10 AM 15/10/08
@eddiecoaster: well, the UK store just opened a couple of mins ago
gymtonic
fallenturtle
Posted 5:10 AM 15/10/08
They didn't seem to make a big deal about this, but I'm glad that they ditched the old MacBook Pro latches for the magnetic style ones found in the plastic MacBook. I love my MacBook Pro, but that open latch is a POS.
fallenturtle
baltwade
Posted 5:10 AM 15/10/08
@direi: 17% . . . ha, ha, ha. Damn, if were going to just make up numbers why stop at 17%? Lets try more like 7%, maybe 8, but regardless of your over exaggeration. You're right. A lot of people care Apple, and why wouldn't you?
baltwade
pdditty
Posted 5:09 AM 15/10/08
Whats up with Apple ditching the lower priced model and making the base model start at $1300 even in the countrys economic condition? It doesnt make sense.
pdditty
KStrike155
Posted 5:09 AM 15/10/08
I said it in the live blog comments, and I'm going to say it here:
As beautiful and tempting as the new machines are, does anyone else think that they have just ruined their distinction between the different products?
The MBP Mini is really just that. They are blurring the line too much between the MBP and the MB and I think it's going to cause a little confusion for consumers along with decreased MBP sales (even if Steve disagrees with me).
KStrike155
Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude
Posted 5:09 AM 15/10/08
@yuriythebest: Obviously you cared enough to poke your head in here and comment.....
If you don't like what you see just click on the little red 'X' in the upper right-hand corner of your screen.
Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude
ohwolfman
Posted 5:08 AM 15/10/08
What? No pics of Jon Ive? *swoon*
ohwolfman
diamonddnice
Posted 5:07 AM 15/10/08
nothing special. glad i sold my apple stock. the market won't be too impressed. Apple needs some new standout products. I don't see much to make someone say I gotta have it.
diamonddnice
pdditty
Posted 5:06 AM 15/10/08
@direi: Dont respond to him, hes been doing this in all the other posts
pdditty
aratuk
Posted 5:06 AM 15/10/08
Also, this is bad news for people who are missing fingers.
aratuk
dambo29
Posted 5:06 AM 15/10/08
I really like the new look with the glass displays, but couldn't we also have the option of the matte? I've had a matted powerbook G4 now for about 4 years and I love the fact that my display never reflects light, unlike my brother's which is glossy and he always has to move around to avoid direct lighting...
Just saying, it'd be a good option!
dambo29
ibelli
Posted 5:06 AM 15/10/08
I predict a precipitous decline in apple stock value over the next 2 quarters.
ibelli
snitch29
Posted 5:05 AM 15/10/08
I have a HP dv6930us for cheap if anyone want's it, i can't take it anymore. this new macbook is so hot i can't resist
snitch29
Gizmometer
Posted 5:05 AM 15/10/08
I can't believe the MacBook has ditched the FireWire port entirely. Sad.
Gizmometer
Kaiser-Machead's WALL-E n' Cookie references
Posted 5:04 AM 15/10/08
Ummmm yeah, I will just avoid the whole 15" deal and get the 13....but perhaps the end of next year. No more black macbook? Jinkies..
Kaiser-Machead's WALL-E n' Cookie references
aratuk
Posted 5:03 AM 15/10/08
Slightly off topic, but why was Tim Cook dressed exactly like Steve Jobs? Does he always do that? Is Apple hoping that if something happens to Steve all they have to do is shave Tim Cook's head and no one will notice?
aratuk
snitch29
Posted 5:02 AM 15/10/08
@yuriythebest: Don't you cry now, ok
snitch29
eddiecoaster
Posted 5:02 AM 15/10/08
How long after an Apple event does the online store reopen? Im excited to order a new Macbook.
eddiecoaster
Poison_Shroom
Posted 5:02 AM 15/10/08
@yuriythebest:
If you read Gizmodo, you would have seen the option to avoid the Apple posts.
But, no, you have to bitch about it.
Poison_Shroom
OletheaEurystheus
Posted 5:02 AM 15/10/08
@Dinotech: Well its no different that Gates and Gorilla boy wearing suits. Its not Jobs thing, he and Woz where hippies compared to Gate's geeks.
OletheaEurystheus
metalgear08
Posted 5:00 AM 15/10/08
@yuriythebest: You know they added an option to see the site with no Apple news, right?
metalgear08
SEJerome
Posted 4:58 AM 15/10/08
A 12" PowerBook by any other name...
But seriously, SOLD!
SEJerome
oopsIsharted
Posted 4:56 AM 15/10/08
they should have just called it the 13" MacBook Pro, and kept the plastic white one as the Macbook.
oopsIsharted
OletheaEurystheus
Posted 4:54 AM 15/10/08
@gg101: Not really, we just got similarly specced Dell quotes last week for work and they where around 1500 WITHOUT the extended warrantee Dell gives. With Applecare the Macbook would just be hitting that.
OletheaEurystheus
EVEs_Mako
Posted 4:54 AM 15/10/08
(holding Credit Card in hand) Is the Nvidia 9400M any good for games? And does that model catch fire?
EVEs_Mako
Dinotech
Posted 4:53 AM 15/10/08
I'll say it again... would someone please tell Steve Jobs that there are other clothes in the world besides jeans and a black long sleeve shirt!
GAWD!!!
Dinotech
direi
Posted 4:51 AM 15/10/08
@yuriythebest:
Dude, with 17% of the market share? People care about Apple.
direi
SgtBeavis
Posted 4:51 AM 15/10/08
Everything looked nice. But there is nothing there that makes me want to upgrade from my current MacBook Pro.
The multitouch pad almost makes me want one, but not enough. If the pad had also been a display, I would have been placing an order within seconds.
Also, how about some quad core processors? Are those even available for notebooks yet? I could use the horsepower.
Again, not bad, just not good enough for me..
SgtBeavis
andrelix
Posted 4:51 AM 15/10/08
so the whole event seems to have been leaked, new displays, iBrick, new macbooks out of metal, new macbook pros and my favorite (I made this call on my own) the macbook pros can actually have user upgradeable hard drives!!!
andrelix
gg101
Posted 4:50 AM 15/10/08
This sucks, because they recased it they're gonna charge more. They should have priced the new macbooks aggressively at $999, these things are outrageously expensive compared to similarly speced alternatives,
gg101
yuriythebest
Posted 4:48 AM 15/10/08
NO ONE CARES ABOUT APPLE!! please stop posting this stuff
yuriythebest
supercollider
Posted 4:47 AM 15/10/08
Make that 2gb, not mb ram.
Want one!
supercollider
taking_this_easy
Posted 4:47 AM 15/10/08
hmm... not bad
my Dell M1330(with the bad nVidia 8400) cost $1300... too bad this didnt come out before october....
taking_this_easy
andrelix
Posted 4:45 AM 15/10/08
rubbing the magnetic strip on the credit card, c'mon baby, work...
andrelix
atomriot
Posted 4:44 AM 15/10/08
they are not ditching the plastic, just adding more options.
atomriot
amatecha
Posted 5:44 AM 15/10/08
@diamonddnice: "the market" won't be impressed, eh?
messages from friends via IM:
"i dunno, fucking WANT IT NOW"
"so like i gotta fucking buy it or i'll die"
"Do want."
"woot!"
"yeah i'm totally wanting to get a dual boot macbook pro as my next laptop"
:)
amatecha
hologon
Posted 5:43 AM 15/10/08
Oddly, the AppleStore is currently back down, in the process of "updating".
Incorrect data, or upgrading servers?
hologon
fallenturtle
Posted 5:43 AM 15/10/08
@Captain Nobody: It's probably in the hinge like with the previous MacBooks
fallenturtle
DOarrival
Posted 5:43 AM 15/10/08
does this mean i can now dual screen with this new macbook chipset? I have been looking to see what this thing can do and so far have not seen that you can hook up two more screens to the macbook. someone please clarify.
DOarrival
BiZarRroBALlmeR
Posted 5:42 AM 15/10/08
@Dinotech:
VERONICA
"Do you ever change your clothes?"
BRUNDLE
"What?"
VERONICA
"Your clothes, you're always wearing the same clothes."
BRUNDLE
"No, these are clean. I change my clothes every day."
VERONICA
"Five sets of exactly the same clothes?"
BRUNDLE
"Ordered from Einstein. This way I don't have to spend any
thought on what I'm going to wear, I just grab the next set
on the rack."
...now do you understand?......
BiZarRroBALlmeR
M.A.S.
Posted 5:42 AM 15/10/08
@atomriot: Don't be surprised if you see the white Macbooks discontinued after this holiday season. I would bet this $999 price point is only a move to get rid of stock and nothing more than that.
M.A.S.
srdailey
Posted 5:38 AM 15/10/08
@Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another du...: there is on the high end macbook.
srdailey
dopplerd
Posted 5:34 AM 15/10/08
Glass MB: Had me at "one more thing..." until the firewire port disappeared. WTF? I'd be totally fine with one USB and one FW 400. Unknown chipset, with nvidia already having reliability issues (with another chip I know). It sounds cool but I wonder about early run reliability.
Classic MB: Looks like a pretty good deal for a grand. Superdrive and firewire. I don't have super processor or graphics needs so my need to replace a older Powerbook looks to be filled with the new price leader. Plus it uses a known chipset.
dopplerd
KStrike155
Posted 5:32 AM 15/10/08
@SAN66: No, it's so they can make money selling you Apple displays that have this port and adapters to connect your computer to a different display.
KStrike155
Captain Nobody
Posted 5:31 AM 15/10/08
@SAN66:
hdmi WOULD have been smart.
Captain Nobody
Kimistry
Posted 5:30 AM 15/10/08
@aratuk:
I laughed.
Kimistry
SAN66
Posted 5:29 AM 15/10/08
What I don't get is the "mini display port"... why??
The mini DVI port is no bigger than the ethernet port. Is this just so the macbook/pro and air all have the same video adapter.
A move so that in the future they can further reduce the height with some kind of mini ethernet port??
SAN66
Johnny Chimpo
Posted 5:29 AM 15/10/08
@takemetoyourtoaster: save the trouble and get a ps3 or 360
Johnny Chimpo
mercury69
Posted 5:28 AM 15/10/08
I wish I was'nt poor :-( to expensive for me but if I had the money I would buy 4 haha awww but i'm poor :-( that makes me sad.
mercury69
takemetoyourtoaster
Posted 5:28 AM 15/10/08
@takemetoyourtoaster: like bf 2142 or any other graphically intense game
takemetoyourtoaster
Captain Nobody
Posted 5:27 AM 15/10/08
steve jobs mentioned in the presentation that major universities are almost at 50% macs, so how does he plan to increase that number, you ask?
by lowering the education discount, of course!
Captain Nobody
Pretolo
Posted 5:27 AM 15/10/08
I don't understand how this even makes the news, spread into 3 posts. Gizmodo, this should have been something like this:
"Apple has # new models, go check them out [link] [pic]"
And that's it. Such fuss over NOTHING. Yeah, they're laptops, yeah, they're new.
YAWN YAWN!!!
I'm still waiting for the BANANA PHONE!
Pretolo
Eruanno
Posted 5:26 AM 15/10/08
The Bad:
- Aaaaargh, where's my Firewire?
- Seriously, gief Firewire.
- The above.
The Good:
- Er, pretty much everything else. Want one. NOW.
Also, you know what? Apple just HAS to be the worst on having the fewest mouse buttons. Before, it's been a single one, and now they've finally stepped over to none! :P
Eruanno
tnkgrl
Posted 5:26 AM 15/10/08
No FireWire. Is there a USB Target Disk Mode?
tnkgrl
takemetoyourtoaster
Posted 5:26 AM 15/10/08
@snitch29: how much?
takemetoyourtoaster
takemetoyourtoaster
Posted 5:25 AM 15/10/08
does the nvidia chipset mean I can actually play games on the thing or not
takemetoyourtoaster
chillywilly
Posted 5:24 AM 15/10/08
The new MacBook Pro actually looks good and some nice new features. With there was a matte screen option. I'm using my 2006 original 2.0Ghz model and the matte screen has always been a preference for reducing finger prints.
Still, I will go take a look at them when they arrive in the stores this week.
Was also hoping for an $899 MacBook model. You would think they would have went another $100 cheaper... oh well.
chillywilly
frigg
Posted 5:23 AM 15/10/08
@hologon: firewire too, right? some pros (e.g. audio) gotta have it.
frigg
amatecha
Posted 5:23 AM 15/10/08
@SgtBeavis: haha, for sure dude. You've got an MBP, that thing should last you a couple years for sure. I'm still using my iBook and haven't been able to justify upgrading yet, as much as I freaking love all the new machines Apple has released since I got my iBook a few years ago. ;)
amatecha
Lupus_Yonderboy
Posted 6:31 AM 15/10/08
@aratuk: "WTF?!? What do you mean that I can't get to Expose?! I'm going back to Windows..."
Lupus_Yonderboy
srdailey
Posted 6:31 AM 15/10/08
@kylo4: the classic macbook is still available. in white.
srdailey
Coppers15
Posted 6:23 AM 15/10/08
To quote Die Hard "Glass, who gives a fuck about glass!" Maybe it's the fact that im brittish and therefore never happy with anything, but isn't the reason that laptops in th 90's didn't sell is coz they had glass screen?
Coppers15
kylo4
Posted 6:02 AM 15/10/08
I hate this aluminum look they've got going. Although it looks better than what I'm about to describe, silver itself is such a generic color. It's on everything from $20 discmans to $5 earbuds and the like. The iconic white set it apart and they should have at least left it on one product.
kylo4
Thetics
Posted 6:00 AM 15/10/08
excited to spend money on repairing the broken glass!
Thetics
Jonathan21
Posted 5:47 AM 15/10/08
@srdailey: I was there during the Liveblog Q&A and didn't see that question(hence my first post) I re-read the live blog and still didn't see a question about a Mac NetBook.
Jonathan21
diamonddnice
Posted 7:53 AM 15/10/08
@amatecha: I'm talking about the stock market. Your friends may like it. Of course some people will even buy anything apple makes.
I mean the guy had to show his blood pressure at a press conference. That's not for the fanboys that's for the stock market that thinks there is declining innovation and if Jobs leaves it's over. Now personally i think it's not over but nothing other then the touch has come out to make me go, "I'd like that" and with that the hard drive is way way way too small and just a bigger HD won't get me off of my 80 GB ipod.
Regardless the market is much bigger then fanboys on the blogs. And they greated todays announcement with a 5% loss down more then 6 dollars. And that is a company that has tanked in the last weak losing nearly half it's value. Nobody is saying the macbooks suck or Apple sucks or they don't make decent products. Just that there isn't a lot that in new or exciting. The price drop is a positive? It opens it to more consumers but a new case isn't much of a selling point.
diamonddnice
SuperSan
Posted 7:38 AM 15/10/08
Not much on the market that can beat solid aluminum construction, 9400M GPU (non defective?), DDR3 ram, for the price.
SuperSan
Cedhed
Posted 7:17 AM 15/10/08
@ibelli: Predicting a decline in anyones stock value at this point is a fairly safe bet.
Cedhed
Mr.Purple
Posted 7:07 AM 15/10/08
@Gizmometer: And that pretty much kills the whole home movie aspect if you think about it, as most cameras only capture with firewire.
Mr.Purple
EsmereldaDiores
Posted 5:48 AM 15/10/08
I am curious if others wanted to see Firewire continue in the Macbook. I was keen on getting it over the Pro due to the pricepoint. (Consumer not pro) BUT I want to use Firewire due to my DV Camera using it. Guess I will have to pass, as there does not look to be the capability to add that functionality either? (Or am I missing something???)
EsmereldaDiores
niled123
Posted 5:47 AM 15/10/08
Apple sucks with price..and BTW ..does this site(gizmodo) owned by Mr.Jobes..Stop praising him as if he is a semigod..and stop behaving like apple as ur bungalow
niled123
RussellRichards
Posted 5:25 AM 15/10/08
This is very disappointing, here in the UK the introduction of the new line seems to be a way of raising prices... The white plastic macbook is now listed at £719 (thats $1265 as I speak). After talk of a new baseline macbooks for $800, this is more of a shock than a disappointment.... but the basic NEW macbook costs $1670 here in the UK.. What is going on?
RussellRichards
MiltonThales
Posted 5:20 AM 15/10/08
"Built with the "Brick" manufacturing process that casts the entire notebook's frame from a single piece of aluminum (removing cut-out pieces, rather than bolting on additions), ..."
The frame is cut from an extruded (not cast) rectangular-profile bar, and then drilled and milled to remove the unnecessary metal. The extrusion process produces a stronger part than aluminum casting can typically produce, especially for very thin sections of the frame.
MiltonThales
VaraneseGabsta
Posted 4:58 AM 15/10/08
All of this is nice, but what about a REAL media center??? i have 400+ DVD i would LIKE to have on my iTunes sometime in the next 100 years!!!
VaraneseGabsta
Shaykins
Posted 3:46 AM 15/10/08
i cant understand why they ditched firewire on the newer macbooks....that really sux. but im buying anyways. :-)
Shaykins
NessaBabbas
Posted 2:59 AM 15/10/08
i wanted a 13 inch pro but now i have to go with 15 and there's no 1920x1200 display.... my 5 year old 11 inch sony had 1200x800... come on apple. your display is the only thing holding me back...
NessaBabbas
BeatrixAlbus
Posted 2:46 AM 15/10/08
Dam, mac book still have the 1280x800 display, I need higher display resolution.
BeatrixAlbus
puppeteer23
Posted 8:27 AM 15/10/08
Heh. Here's what I want to know. Any of the iPhone fanbois out there who were slamming the BB Storm for having the clickable touchpad...
...care to comment?
puppeteer23
taoprophet420
Posted 12:04 PM 15/10/08
Anyone notice that on the site it say the $1299 model does not have backlit keys but when u click to buy it it is highlighted in the options. i realy dont get why both price points wouldn't have backlit keys. [store.apple.com]
taoprophet420
Soyerzz
Posted 3:41 PM 15/10/08
AWESOME, I don't really like the looks of this one in terms of looks, But Apple will continue to produce the White Macbooks 2.1 Ghz with the Firewire ports, and It will be a bit cheaper.
Soyerzz
srdailey
Posted 7:17 AM 16/10/08
@Jonathan21: c/o engadget: "11:02AM Q: Are we going to see a netbook?
A: Steve: In terms of netbooks, that's a nascent market that's just getting started."
srdailey
nightbirdsf
Posted 8:09 AM 16/10/08
@takemetoyourtoaster: I play Crysis and Mass Effect on my Sony SZ laptop with an nVidia 8400GSM video chip. You should do fine.
nightbirdsf
nightbirdsf
Posted 8:07 AM 16/10/08
@RussellRichards: Sounds like VAT to me. Remember, US prices are quoted exclusive of state sales tax, and in EU prices tend to be inclusive of VAT.
nightbirdsf
GraceBizzle
Posted 4:08 AM 18/10/08
Two years ago Steve Jobe had promised to have Blue-Ray burner in the Apple computers! He steel using the old DVD format! How long he'll wait? Too much I-Pod and I-Phone! It's time to move on with the new technology Steve! -Attila Fovenyessy-
GraceBizzle
Arora370
Posted 11:00 AM 15/10/08
wow i love this new macbook. I just recently bought a 24in iMac. I should've definitely waited for this bad boy!!!
Arora370
lp1977
Posted 8:29 AM 15/10/08
Press release says backlit keyboard on 13.3 Macbook only on the $1599 2.4ghz model. $1299 model's Apple store configuration page says 'Backlit Keyboard'. What gives?
lp1977