Cranky Windows Guy: Apple Laptops Still Too Damned Expensive May Not Be That Expensive After All

As you may be aware, I’m a Windows guy. I’m not diehard about it, however. When the time comes for me to get a new laptop in the next year or so, I’ll be open to switching, making me Apple’s target market. But there’s one big reason that is holding me back from making that switch: price. Apple’s laptops are expensive as hell, and the prices aren’t justified.
Update: We have edited this post to reflect the real hardware/price comparison between the Dell and the Apple laptops. The bottom line: They are not comparable. Our apologies for the mistakes in the original article. –J.D.
Let’s just look at the 13-inch MacBook that was just announced, for example. For $1,300, it comes with a 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo, 2GB of RAM and a 160GB hard drive. Over at Dell, I can grab an Inspiron 13 laptop with a 13.3-inch screen, a 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo, 3GB of RAM and a 250GB hard drive. For $750. For those of you keeping score at home, that’s a $550 difference, and the specs are better on the cheaper Dell.
Update:
Actually, the specs on the Dell are not better, as reader Giz James Topoleski pointed out. In fact, the MacBook seems like a much better machine than the Dell except for the 1GB of extra RAM and larger hard drive.
• The Dell uses Intel graphics instead of the much better NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, which is currently unavailable in any other computer.
• The Dell uses a 802.11g Mini-Card as oposed to the MacBook’s Wireless N card.
• While it has 3GB of Shared Dual Channel DDR2 RAM at 667MHz, the 2GB of RAM in the MacBook is 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM.
• The Dell has an Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 with 667MHz bus and 2MB cache as opposed to the Intel Core 2 Duo with 3MB on chip and 1066 MHz bus on the MacBook.
• The Dell has no Bluetooth by default.
• There’s no HD video output on the Dell and no option for one.
• There’s no gigabit Eithernet.
So as you can see, the price difference is quite reasonable, and that’s without counting on things like the multi-touch no-button glass trackpad or the iLife multimedia suite, both things not included in the Dell. It’s like comparing last year’s car model with this year’s.
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And it’s not like Apple is offering anything great for my $550. You have a fancy new manufacturing process, awesome. Your trackpads are glass. OK. I’d rather have $550 and a plastic trackpad, thanks. I’m not sold on no physical buttons anyways. (Update: The whole trackpad is a physical button. –J.D.)
Apple has always put a price premium on its products, and people pay it, which is great for them. But for people who aren’t already on the Apple bandwagon and for people who aren’t having their computers bought for them by rich parents, like the college kids who snap up these laptops every August, there’s no incentive to switch.
Maybe Leopard is way better than Vista. I don’t know, I haven’t extensively used either. But when the time comes to buy a new computer that comes loaded with one or the other, one thing is going to make my decision for me, and it isn’t shiny glass things or funny commercials. It’s the price. And I don’t think I’m alone on that one.
Note: While this last point may be arguable, it’s certainly not the case of the MacBook. Even while the MacBook has less storage space and memory than the Dell, it seems competitively priced looking at the technologies including in the package. –J.D.
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yeah right … at least you don’t have to pay A$ 3199 – $3999 for a 15″ notebook!!
hell I could almost buy 3 Dells for that price !
Pathetic Apple , Pathetic …
A proper review might reveal some serious quality issues with the cheap laptop I’d wager..
A Solid block of aluminium is more than just a marketing gimmick, it ought to result in a solid machine that will take a battering, unlike the cheap, nasty plastic body with magnesium frame that the Dell is likely made from.
Quality is more than a specification sheet. I agree you pay a premium, but I’d also argue that you get what you pay for too..
This argument would have worked better when both were plastic.. now, less so.
Some people understand and value quality. Some people only understand quantity.
If all value is quantity (specs), then stick with Dell.
I will be paying for Apple quality.
Is that like the “Quality” of the previous models that supposedly didn’t crash yet managed to do so more often than my Dell. Quality doesn’t help when the bloody thing cooks inside… nor does it help when the plastic strip was left over the ventilation holes…
there is nothing, i repeat nothing that could make me pay that kind of price difference. not for myself, nor for my company. If i replaced our 25 laptops with Apple, that is a $13750 difference (according to prices mentioned in the article. Australian price differences will be worse). Now for a projected 2 – 3 year lifetime, the difference in chassis makeup is not going to matter… not nearly enough to justify THAT kind of “Apple Tax”
Quality and Quantity are 2 different things.
Apple is arguably providing the quality – but at a heavily marked up price.
The Alluminium shell is nice, but going back to before it was a “feature” – Apple is not providing any more quality then a decent “IBM Compatible” notebook, component for component.
the price their charging, and the promise that it’s “high Quality” just doesn’t hold true. They’re using the same components as any other “IBM compatible”.
And now that Apple have released the Alluminium shell, I’ll wager you that an IBM compatible notebook manufacturer will do the same thing, but much much cheaper, with the same quality.
Love Apple all you like, that’s your choice – but using the “quality” argument, died a long long time ago.
” For those of you keeping score at home, that’s a $US550 difference, and the specs are better on the cheaper Dell.”
O Rly?
The Dell has DDR2 667 memory. The Macbook has DDR3 1066 memory.
The Dell has an Intel X3100. The Macbook has an Nvidia 9400.
The Dell has 100Mbps Ethernet. The Macbook has Gigabit Ethernet.
The Dell has 2MB L2 cache. The Macbook has 3MB L2 cache.
The Dell has 802.11g. The Macbook has 802.11n.
The Dell has no Bluetooth. The Macbook has Bluetooth 2.1.
Fortunately you can option both 802.11n and Bluetooth on the Dell. It’s an extra $25 for 802.11n and $20 for Bluetooth. The Dell price is now closer to $800 and it’s still got inferior graphics, inferior bus speed, inferior cache and inferior networking.
Your claim that the “specs are better on the cheaper Dell” is simply BS.
Aluminium should ding up quite nicely shouldn’t it? I think the price increase puts in in a range of laptops that it just cannot compete with specs whise. Now, rather than just competing with cheapers dells and toshibas, it will battle higher end laptops such as lenovos etc. I think if i had 3-4 grand to spend on a laptop, id buy a xps 1730, fully decked out. Who can say no to 2×8800gtm’s on the fly? Stick that in your mac for under the price of a new bmw and you’ve got me interested.
Whats oposed mean? And what is this Eithernet that the Mac has? I want some Eithernet. :)
Seriously I love Macs I own an iMac, an iPhone and have had several iPods over the years but consider my recent HP Laptop purchase compared to the new MacBooks.
HP Pavillion DV1009T: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.53 Ghz MacBook Pro: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.53ghz
HP Pavillion DV1009T: 4GB DDR2 Memory MacBook Pro: 4GB DDR3 Memory
HP Pavillion DV1009T: 320GB HDD MacBook Pro: 320GB HDD
HP Pavillion DV1009T: Blu-ray Reader + DVD±R/RW DL MacBook Pro: DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW
HP Pavillion DV1009T: Geforce 9600M GT MacBook Pro: Geforce 9600M GT
All the other minor specs the Pavillion matches but it is worth noting that the Pavillion has a total of 4 USB ports (MacBook Pro has 2) an eSATA port, HDMI and built in HDTV tuner.
Now you would think that a beast of a notebook like this one would cost something close to the $3999 that Apple are asking for the similar MacBook Pro.
The HP Pavillion DV1009TX in question cost $2100. The build quality is excellent and whilst it doesn’t match up to an Apple the fact I am getting almost the same computer for half the price makes the purchase decision a no brainer.
This of course does not mean that some day when I have a bit more money to burn that I will not be splashing out on fancy Apple gear rather than the HP stuff but merely that the HP offering represents better value by far.
heres my thinking, if i want a laptop which i will be able to play slightly better games on (even though they wont work properly on the mac) and to be able to belt myself over the head with solid aluminium, ill buy a mac; but if i want a machine that does almost the exact same thing, and have $550 left to take my girlfriend out to a couple of fancy dinners and get a bunch of sex for it, ill buy the dell.
unfair comparison? just watch 1 of the im a mac ads