Phones
BlackBerry Storm First Hands On
Posted by Matt Buchanan at 4:01 PM on October 8, 2008

The very first time you touch the BlackBerry Storm—RIM's first all-touchscreen keyboard-free smartphone, just announced for Verizon Wireless—you will be startled. No matter how many times your fingers dance on the screen like you've been trained on every other touchscreen, nothing will happen. At least, not until you push the screen all the way down and you feel a click. Yes, the screen is a giant button, one you have to punch for basically every action, even every letter you type, completely breaking the touchscreen paradigm. Surprisingly, it works.
While the Storm's defining feature is this, what RIM ungracefully calls ClickThrough, the phone is much, much more. The term "iPhone killer" is clumsily tossed around by bloggers and journos (including us) to describe almost any phone with a touchscreen, but by trying to actually innovate rather than imitate, RIM has conjured up the phone most deserving of the title yet. It's got an innovative multi-touch UI, runs on Verizon's EV-DO 3G network in the US as well as any GSM HSPA 3G networks when abroad, so it's a true global smartphone. OK, maybe there never will be an "iPhone killer"—it's a stupid idea anyway—but based on our limited time with the BlackBerry Storm, it seems like it will definitely hold its own against every other marquee handset on the market.
Let's talk more about ClickThrough, since using the Storm means using it. RIM co-CEO Mike Lazaridis, who notoriously said he can't type on a piece of glass, told me that it was in development for years as they looked to evolve past the trackball while accomplishing something no touchscreen has before: Separating navigation from confirmation. So you have to push the touchscreen like a button every time you do something. Typing with it takes some getting used to, even if you can fly on an iPhone or other touchscreen device, because you have to retrain yourself to actually lift your thumb back off of the screen to let it pop back up between every single letter. Since you can't "flow" continuously in a stream but are pounding out a series of clicks, it's hard to tell in the limited time I had with it how fast you would be able to go once you're completely re-trained. It's a unique and finely tuned sensation, and I liked it, but I could definitely see people loathing it.
More on navigation. One annoyance when typing is that it highlights letters in blue rather than doing a magnified pop-up like the iPhone or LG Vu, so letters will probably be obscured if you have fat fingers. One of the weird inconsistencies (there are a few) with needing to clickthrough for an action actually occurs with copy and paste, which took a few seconds to get down since it involved a long hold and drag when it was demoed for me—they oddly didn't show me the multitouch method shown in the leaked user guide, though RIM later confirmed it would be there. Also worth noting is that it has an accelerometer (which seemed to be a hair more sensitive than the iPhone's), so it detects whether it's in landscape or portrait orientation, using the QWERTY keyboard for text entry in the former and SureType for the latter.
While the BlackBerry OS has been optimised for grubby fingers, all of the standard BlackBerry navigation paradigms are in play, so there's plenty of pushing the four buttons along the bottom of the screen: menu, back, send and end like you would on a regular BlackBerry to get around.
The browser improves upon the one in the Bold and is even more competent at rendering HTML. You have a couple different ways to navigate around a page, though the most unique makes use of the whole screen as a trackpad, so that once you have the cursor pop up, you can put your finger anywhere on the screen to move it around, just like on a notebook. It's context sensitive, so it'll do what it's supposed to when you hit a link or whatnot. It had some trouble with a text entry field in the browser, and had some other jitters but then it obviously wasn't a final version. RIM's concern with the user experience is very apparent, so I expect it to be cleaned up when the final version ships, presumably in November for a still undetermined price (crossing fingers for $US199).
Overall, it was a solid browsing experience, though one thing to take note that is per Verizon standards, you'll be doing it over EV-DO, not Wi-Fi, since it doesn't have the latter. Lack of Wi-Fi is one of the biggest knocks on the phone, no matter how damn good Verizon's network might be. The fact that it packs both EV-DO and HSPA into a single phone is a truly impressive feat worth marvelling over, but why couldn't they cram Wi-Fi in there too?
The screen is gorgeous. I haven't seen the HTC Touch HD in person, but barring that, the 480x360 184-pixel-per-inch stunner could be the best screen on the market. It's bright, contrasty, the colours are beautiful and the viewing angle is ridiculous. I think I could watch the whole of Iron Man on it. Media navigation isn't as intuitive as the iPhone, basically re-using the usual BlackBerry UI, but it's not difficult to get around by any means. Still, RIM clearly intends to take the fight seriously, since the Storm will come with an 8GB microSD card and supports stereo Bluetooth.
The Storm is RIM's most consumer-oriented device yet, but it's also still a BlackBerry heart, with all of the standard enterprise features like Office document editing, full email search, Exchange support—everything a BlackBerry user expects. Not to mention littler touches like BlackBerry Maps (it'll have Verizon's VZ Navigator too), BrickBreaker and Facebook pre-installed.
You've already seen the app store in leaks, and RIM told me that there will be an SDK for the phone in short order. The weird explosion of consumer-oriented BlackBerry apps a little while ago was not a coincidence—RIM seems fully aware that a strong developer community and killer apps are more critical than ever in the consumer smartphone market.
This will be the most important phone in Verizon's lineup, and from the looks of it, the best. Some people will hate ClickThrough—it's not a perfect solution, but it's genuinely innovative and really damn good. Some people will hate that it's not the iPhone (or the G1, since it's another tightly integrated hardware/software package). But for BlackBerry users looking for a touchscreen phone, or Verizon customers who don't want to do without the carrier's superior coverage area, this is the best there is.
If you've got questions, leave them in the comments, I'll answer them.

BlackBerry Takes the World by Storm on the Most Reliable Networks in Europe and the U.S.
Verizon Wireless, Vodafone and RIM Deliver the Power of a Smartphone with the World's First Tactile Touch Display on a BlackBerry
BASKING RIDGE, N.J., NEWBURY, England, and WATERLOO, Ontario - Verizon Wireless, Vodafone Group (NYSE:VOD)(LSE:VOD) and Research In Motion (RIM) (NASDAQ:RIMM)(TSX:RIM) today announced that the BlackBerry(R) Storm(TM) will be available later this fall, exclusively to Verizon Wireless customers in the U.S. and Vodafone customers in Europe, India, Australia and New Zealand.
Designed to satisfy the needs of both consumers and business customers, the BlackBerry Storm smartphone combines the powerful communications features, global connectivity and personal productivity advantages of the BlackBerry(R) platform with a revolutionary touch-screen technology that dramatically enhances the touch interface and enables easy and precise typing. The world's first "clickable" touch-screen responds much like a physical keyboard and also supports single-touch, multi-touch and gestures for intuitive and efficient application navigation.
In the U.S., Verizon Wireless customers will benefit from the nation's most reliable wireless voice network and the pervasiveness of Verizon Wireless' reliable high-speed 3G Evolution-Data Optimised (EV-DO) Revision A (Rev. A) network for rich Internet browsing and multimedia applications. In Europe, India, Australia and New Zealand, Vodafone will support customers with its high-speed 3G mobile broadband networks and the power and reach of the world's leading international mobile communications group.
"We are proud to introduce the first touch-screen based BlackBerry smartphone together with Verizon Wireless and Vodafone," said Mike Lazaridis, president and co-chief executive officer at RIM. "The BlackBerry Storm is a revolutionary touch-screen smartphone that meets both the communications and multimedia needs of customers and solves the longstanding problem associated with typing on traditional touch-screens. Consumers and business customers alike will appreciate this unique combination of a large and vibrant screen with a truly tactile touch interface."
"The BlackBerry Storm offers our customers more ways to stay connected to both their personal and professional lives - whether in their communities or around the globe," said Mike Lanman, vice president and chief marketing officer of Verizon Wireless. "The BlackBerry Storm combines the reliability of our 3G network with the dependability and network efficiency of the BlackBerry platform to deliver our customers the ultimate wireless experience - all in one of the coolest smartphones available on the market today."
"We are delighted to bring the power of the purpose built BlackBerry Storm, directly into the hands of consumer and business customers," said Frank H. Rovekamp, global chief marketing officer, Vodafone Group. "With its unique clickable touch-screen, giving access to all the desirable multi-media features and services such as browsing, music and video, turn-by-turn satellite navigation, messaging and social networking, and BlackBerry's mobile heritage and strong business reputation, the BlackBerry Storm is being brought by Vodafone into the consumer world. With Vodafone's ultra high-speed, reliable mobile network and this exclusive and exciting new smartphone, there has never been a better time to be with Vodafone."
Touch and Feel
The BlackBerry Storm smartphone comes with an innovative touch-screen that actually depresses ever so slightly when the screen is pressed. The user distinctly feels the screen being pressed and released with a gentle "click", similar to the feeling of a key on a physical keyboard or a button on a mouse. The "clickable" touch-screen gives the user positive confirmation that they have made a selection and the result is a dramatically enhanced touch interface and a highly-intuitive typing experience.In addition to the familiar navigation keys ("phone," "menu" and "escape") that are common to other BlackBerry smartphones, the new BlackBerry Storm adds support for multi-touches, taps, slides and other touch-screen gestures, so customers can easily highlight, scroll, pan and zoom for smooth navigation.
The BlackBerry Storm smartphone also features a built-in accelerometer, allowing its touch-screen to automatically switch between landscape mode and portrait mode as the user rotates the handset - RIM's SureType(R) keyboard layout is available in portrait mode and a full QWERTY(1) keyboard layout is available in landscape mode. Other relevant features, such as cut and paste, are only a touch away for the ultimate smartphone experience.
World Class Smartphone
The BlackBerry Storm is a top-of-the-line 3G mobile phone with premium features and global connectivity. In the U.S., the BlackBerry Storm 9530 gives Verizon Wireless customers 3G EV-DO Rev. A/CDMA technology - and (2100Mhz) UMTS/HSPA and quad-band EDGE/GPRS/GSM for global use. The BlackBerry Storm 9500 from Vodafone supports (2100Mhz) UMTS/HSPA and quad-band EDGE/GPRS/GSM networks.Browsing is Fast and Easy
Customers will enjoy a full HTML high-performance browser that works in either portrait or landscape orientation. Navigating Web sites is fast and easy with the touch-screen interface that lets users double tap to zoom in and slide their fingers to scroll and pan.Icons along the bottom of the display allow for quickly accessing Web sites, switching between "Page View" and "Column View" as well as the ability to toggle between "Pan" mode and "Cursor" mode. The enhanced browser supports file downloading, streaming audio and video (RTSP), and with its built-in RSS support, new content from supported Web sites can be automatically pushed to the user.
Staying Connected
The BlackBerry Storm smartphone brings the full power of the industry's leading mobile e-mail and messaging solution without compromise. It supports personal and corporate e-mail and text (SMS), picture (MMS) and instant (IM) messaging on the most prevalent consumer and enterprise platforms, as well as easy access to popular social networking sites.Packed with Additional Features
The BlackBerry Storm smartphone, available from Verizon Wireless and Vodafone, also includes the following features and functions:- BlackBerry(R) Internet Service, BlackBerry(R) Unite!, BlackBerry(R) Professional Software and BlackBerry(R) Enterprise Server support
- Preloaded DataViz(R) Documents to Go(R) allows users to edit Microsoft(R) Word, Excel and PowerPoint files directly on the handset
- 3.2 megapixel camera with variable zoom, auto focus and a powerful flash that also provides continuous lighting when recording video
- Built-in GPS supports location-based applications and services, as well as geotagging of photos
- 1 GB of onboard memory storage and a microSD(TM)/SDHD memory card slot that supports up to 16 GB of additional storage
- Media player that can play movies smoothly in full screen mode, display pictures and slideshows quickly and manage an entire music collection; playlists can be created directly on the handset and there's an equalizer with 11 preset filters - including "Lounge," "Jazz" and "Hip Hop" - for customised audio ranges when using wired headphones or external speakers
- A 3.5 mm stereo headset jack, support for Bluetooth(R) stereo audio profile (A2DP/AVRCP) and dedicated volume controls
- Sleek, elegant design with contoured corners, stainless steel back and chrome accents surrounding its large (3.25") glass lens; its exceptional 480 x 360 resolution at 184 ppi is crisp and bright with eye-pleasing clarity
- An ambient light sensor that automatically adjusts backlighting for ideal screen viewing and an accelerometer that allows customers to view applications in either portrait or landscape mode by simply rotating the handset
- Removable and rechargeable 1400 mAhr battery that provides approximately six hours of talk time on 3G networks and 15 days of standby time

Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
iJah420
Posted October 9, 2008 7:44 AM
I just can not see this thing gaining serious traction.
I mean really no WiFi .... come on. WiFi is a must for me..... solid and fast.
will see where this goes when it is available. If the price is anywhere above $199 this will be a VERY TOUGH SELL indeed.
ijah420 says RIM only makes handsets their reach is very limited (not a desktop OS). I also see major problems with sw updates and serious enterprise applications. I just get the gut that the thing will not flow real well. ie when I scroll thru my contacts on my phone I can flick fast or slow and stop that scroll on a dime just by laying my finger on the glass. Just my experience. Will be VERY interesting to see how this holds up to a device that was ridiculed by the very company that is now playing catch up.
daniel
Posted October 9, 2008 8:12 AM
Does a "ridiculous" viewing angle mean it is good or bad?
Chaz
Posted October 9, 2008 9:49 AM
Question!
Can you adjust the sensativity of the click through?? So, that you can decide how hard you need to "push" on the button??
Ry
Posted November 13, 2008 4:40 PM
Does the Storm have individual pin's?
Anton Flint
Posted November 16, 2008 6:35 AM
So I can safely say that this device will directly connect to an exchange server to synch my Calendar, Email, contacts without the need for the Blackberry synch software or the having to have the Blackberry server installed? I love the concept of the phone, I just hate the Blackberry Way of collecting and distributing email as well as the need of having to be connected to a computer to synch calendar and contacts.
Thanks for the great write-up!
schmere
Posted 3:52 PM 8/10/08
Can you rig up that stand to be used as a dock?
schmere
generall
Posted 3:51 PM 8/10/08
"...and 8 GB microSD memory card included in expandable memory card slot"
Holy shit. I wasn't expecting that at all. That's amazing. I was expecting it to ship with only 1GB of on board memory. That could have been a "One more thing..."
generall
wtf007
Posted 3:51 PM 8/10/08
oh yeah does it support flash? how is the browsing compared to safari???
wtf007
Reilaos: Reading Comprehension is your friend!
Posted 3:48 PM 8/10/08
@matt buchanan: Aww, no T-Mo support.
And kudos to Matt for hanging around to reply to comments!
Reilaos: Reading Comprehension is your friend!
wtf007
Posted 3:47 PM 8/10/08
I currently own the 8830 world edition for Verizon and I was planning on either getting an ipod touch for a better browsing experience or gonna hold off and just upgrade to this phone. I thought it would have wi-fi and the fact that it doesn't, is a complete deal breaker. Now that it doesn't have wi-fi the only other reason i would even think about getting it is if I can use it as a gps out of box without paying verizon any extra. Anyone know if it will be like this?
wtf007
drewkkake
Posted 3:47 PM 8/10/08
Sure, this will be the most important phone in Verizon's lineup... but for how long? The Diamond and the Touch have to come out SOMETIME, right? Is the lack of wi-fi on the Storm a clear indicator that the HTC phones will be similarly neutered? Say it ain't so, Matt!
drewkkake
theogcasey
Posted 3:41 PM 8/10/08
that's pretty slick
theogcasey
Evangelion
Posted 3:40 PM 8/10/08
Awesome. It looks pretty good btw. =]
Evangelion
matt buchanan
Posted 3:40 PM 8/10/08
@cotr: Never, it's a Verizon and Vodafone exclusive.
matt buchanan
DustinFinn
Posted 3:39 PM 8/10/08
@matt buchanan:
Thank you...
DustinFinn
cotr
Posted 3:39 PM 8/10/08
how long before att gets this sucker? or is just gonna be bold so the baby iphone doesnt get hurt?
cotr
AJCoombs
Posted 3:39 PM 8/10/08
At dustin.
If he was testing it in America, then he didn't get to test simultaneous voice and data. Because EV-DO doesn't support such a feature.
AJCoombs
matt buchanan
Posted 3:35 PM 8/10/08
@jozen: Some people will love ClickThrough, some people will hate it. I think it's mostly great. Predictive text didn't seem as aggressive as the iPhone's. I suck at SureType, so I didn't play with it in that mode very much, mostly stuck to the QWERTY keyboard.
On the app question, time will tell, but it obviously has the advantage in email and corporate features.
matt buchanan
matt buchanan
Posted 3:33 PM 8/10/08
@rclee820: The other covers you gotta buy.
AFAIK, no. But it turns it into a bona fide alarm clock, so it might be worth picking up anyway.
matt buchanan
matt buchanan
Posted 3:32 PM 8/10/08
@DustinFinn: The stand makes it an alarm clock. I thought it was cool.
Yes, there's an army of different pouches and cases that will be waiting for you, and it does lock when you throw it one. (Or you can just push the lock button.)
No.
The one in there is beefy as hell, I don't know how they'd make it bigger. But no there wasn't any of talk of it, in any case.
matt buchanan
scarbrtj
Posted 3:29 PM 8/10/08
Such a smartphone... a brainy Storm!
The Storm of the century, no?
How large will the Storm surge ultimately be?
Is this the perfect Storm?
Will Apple remain calm before the Storm?
Will the iPhone be able to weather the Storm?
BOOOO hiss...
scarbrtj
DustinFinn
Posted 3:27 PM 8/10/08
Is the stand a dock?
Will there be add-on accessories available at "Launch" time ?
Specifically - cases, holster pouch?
Does it lock when placed in possible pouch or holster?
Did you get to test Voice and Data simultaneously?
Any talk of Extended batteries?
Did I ask enough? Sure - I will have more.
DustinFinn
theawddone
Posted 3:27 PM 8/10/08
I am really excited for this phone, my upgrade can't come soon enough! (Spring =\) I have an iPod touch that is jailbroken, and my gf has an iPhone, so I have definitely experienced the best (and worst) of apple's offerings. I have been waiting a long time for Verizon to offer something competitive in this market, and I am very glad to see Blackberry did step up to the plate.
theawddone
kenleewrites
Posted 3:23 PM 8/10/08
where's the safari browser we saw earlier in the spec sheet? ^^
kenleewrites
jozen
Posted 3:23 PM 8/10/08
@jozen: i mean this phone could not be any more of a direct hit at the iphone
is it successful
is it a miss
do u think it will be able to compete with apple's firm ground + app store apps
jozen
jozen
Posted 3:22 PM 8/10/08
@matt buchanan: so its a matter of taste?
does the new clicking system work?
does it beat iphone predictive text?
jozen
rclee820
Posted 3:19 PM 8/10/08
i don't think i've ever wanted anything more! those pictures pose some questions though:
do we have the option of different color batter covers?
does it come with that nifty stand??
rclee820
matt buchanan
Posted 3:15 PM 8/10/08
@jozen: It's different.
matt buchanan
matt buchanan
Posted 3:14 PM 8/10/08
@seldon452: No word on pricing, codecs are in the spec sheet, I didn't see the app store, but I'll add a bit about their SDK plans.
matt buchanan
matt buchanan
Posted 3:13 PM 8/10/08
@sneaky: Yes.
matt buchanan
jozen
Posted 3:13 PM 8/10/08
i couldn't tell if u felt it was superior to the iphone or any current blackberry
jozen
sneaky
Posted 3:13 PM 8/10/08
so can you just touch the screen to move the cursor around and then click for confirmation? Making it essentially like a mouse or a trackpad?
sneaky
seldon452
Posted 3:11 PM 8/10/08
Any word on pricing?
Did you see any form of an app store?
What codecs does it support?
seldon452
imTheKing
Posted 3:11 PM 8/10/08
wow very nice.
imTheKing
schrosa
Posted 3:08 PM 8/10/08
I'd prefer to click through Halley Berry
schrosa
Yaro
Posted 3:07 PM 8/10/08
If it doesnt have WiFi I would not buy it ...
Yaro
jabber
Posted 4:11 PM 8/10/08
"The fact that it packs both EV-DO and HSPA into a single phone is a truly impressive feat worth marveling over, but why couldn't they cram Wi-Fi in there too?"
I thought that would be obvious. You don't need to pay anything to be on Wi-Fi as oppose to EV-DO and HSDPA but then I would think Verizon would require you to have a data plan if you get this thing.
jabber
matt buchanan
Posted 4:07 PM 8/10/08
@freakshow1: I think it will be. True, some people will never totally ditch a keyboard, but ClickThrough is visceral enough for many, if not most, to feel comfortable. I just wish they came up with a better name for it.
matt buchanan
Renegade05
Posted 4:06 PM 8/10/08
How loud are the speakers?
Renegade05
matt buchanan
Posted 4:06 PM 8/10/08
@itchytooth: Not really.
matt buchanan
ajlafontaine
Posted 4:04 PM 8/10/08
I am an iPhone 3G owner and I have nothing but respect for RIM. I don't think it's near anything worth ditching my iPhone for, but I am super glad there Apple will have an actual competitor now. I'm not praising Apple or RIM, I'm praising innovation!
ajlafontaine
freakshow1
Posted 4:03 PM 8/10/08
I'll say it again. Where is the keyboard? No keyboard, it won't be successful.
freakshow1
itchytooth
Posted 4:03 PM 8/10/08
Is the ClickThrough awkward to execute one-handed?
itchytooth
schmere
Posted 4:02 PM 8/10/08
@matt buchanan: OK good deal.
schmere
matt buchanan
Posted 3:58 PM 8/10/08
@Reilaos: Reading Comprehension is your friend!: Sure, I'll be around for just a little bit longer.
matt buchanan
matt buchanan
Posted 3:57 PM 8/10/08
@schmere: It is a dock. If it's plugged in it turns the phone into an alarm clock and charges and stuff.
matt buchanan
matt buchanan
Posted 3:56 PM 8/10/08
@wtf007: Safari is still better because of multitouch navigation.
matt buchanan
matt buchanan
Posted 3:56 PM 8/10/08
@wtf007: My guess is that it'll be included with an unlimited data plan, but we won't know til pricing is announced.
matt buchanan
matt buchanan
Posted 3:56 PM 8/10/08
@drewkkake: Verizon does kind of hate Wi-Fi. I think this is more important than WinMo phones, honestly.
matt buchanan
generall
Posted 3:54 PM 8/10/08
@wtf007:
RIM *always* releases different hardware versions of its devices. Each one has a different network, or a different feature such as Wi-Fi or GPS. If you hold out longer, chances are they will release a Wi-Fi one. You just have to hope it comes to your carrier.
generall
willyolio
Posted 4:27 PM 8/10/08
wow. touchscreen AND tactile feedback. brilliant.
willyolio
bracho86
Posted 4:27 PM 8/10/08
Does it use multi touch?..also what can you tell about the camera: video recording (FPS?), zoom, max res, etc... thanks :)
bracho86
vgart
Posted 4:24 PM 8/10/08
So good to see iPhone changing the whole Mobile Market..
vgart
matt buchanan
Posted 4:16 PM 8/10/08
@Renegade05: Sufficiently punchy.
matt buchanan
matt buchanan
Posted 4:52 PM 8/10/08
@bracho86: The camera takes pretty solid pics, didn't get a chance to see video recording.
Multitouch is pretty limited now, it's just the text highlight dealio, but they're looking at other options. (I'd like it most in the browser.)
matt buchanan
matt buchanan
Posted 4:50 PM 8/10/08
@Ypoknons: Lazaridis said that sliders were too fat.
matt buchanan
Justapspfan
Posted 4:46 PM 8/10/08
Pretty nice looking phone, the clickable screen has me a bit nervous but I kinda like it. I hope you can turn the clicks on and off. Im a VZ BB Pearl user and its showing its age so its time for an upgrade. Thanks for the info Gizmodo no wonder I love you guys.
Justapspfan
coketown
Posted 4:37 PM 8/10/08
@matt buchanan: Unless Verizon or Vodafone don't meet the quota set by RIM, right? I thought I heard exclusivity was voided if the carrier failed to sell a certain amount.
coketown
Ypoknons
Posted 4:36 PM 8/10/08
I could use a slider keyboard version of this phone, but I'd imagine RIM wouldn't want that eating into Bold sales.
Ypoknons
purple-pillows
Posted 5:17 PM 8/10/08
@shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog: @shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog: nice little salary reference... if before taxes... you are implying 80,000+ which is pretty good... but if you lived in a cheaper place you would probably be able to by a plasma every few months rather than pay rent... or make some mortgage payments each month... housing should be about 25% of your gross income
purple-pillows
Derek Devine
Posted 5:13 PM 8/10/08
Ok, I'm switching.
Derek Devine
purple-pillows
Posted 5:13 PM 8/10/08
@purple-pillows: not suretype... i mean click through whenever i say suretype
purple-pillows
DiscoDapper
Posted 5:08 PM 8/10/08
when docked, will it sing you bed-time stories? J/K
The other gadget site reported that the scrolling and paning / navigation / surfing were not as smooth as iPhone... what are your impressions.
DiscoDapper
purple-pillows
Posted 5:08 PM 8/10/08
do you have any video showing suretype in action with some higher speed typing and web navigation.. also any chance that RIM could release something to disable suretype to give a choice between suretype and pure touch interface
purple-pillows
shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog
Posted 5:06 PM 8/10/08
To put it frankly, my rent is 2300 a month which is a good 1/3 of my salary. I can't afford this thing and the data charges. I know I shouldn't be complaining on a Gadget site, but where do folks get the money to buy these things every time some do dad on it gets upgraded? Hmmpft... So how much?
shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog
sublicon
Posted 4:56 PM 8/10/08
No wi-fi...why must something always give? Why?
sublicon
shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog
Posted 5:33 PM 8/10/08
@purple-pillows: It should, but the area I live in, you can't get a one bedroom apartment for less than 1500/month even in this 'recession'. If I didn't live in this area, I wouldn't have the job. To make matters worse, 1/3 of it goes directly to taxes and another 1k to child care. Explain to me how I can improve my situation an afford this here upgrade? I would assume my salary and situation is about average.
shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog
Gilbert
Posted 5:27 PM 8/10/08
@matt buchanan: Matt, you reply to more comments than any other editor.
It is much, much appreciated. Thank you.
Gilbert
mr. Hi-Definition
Posted 5:46 PM 8/10/08
Matt, I have some questions...
1. Does it have flash?
2. Is the browser fast?
3. How does it feel in the hand?
4. Does it do anything better than the iPhone 3G?
5. Is Verizon going to cap the data on it?
6. Can you tether it? (USB/Bluetooh)
mr. Hi-Definition
Rondogg96
Posted 7:16 PM 8/10/08
This thing has great specs. The lack if Wi-Fi did shock me a little bit.
Rondogg96
NFLBLitze1
Posted 8:37 PM 8/10/08
@Yaro: well your a moron then, who dosn't buy a phone just because it doesn't have wifi?
NFLBLitze1
aside
Posted 8:41 PM 8/10/08
Matt,
I couldn't understand this part:
"Typing with it takes some getting used to, even if you can fly on an iPhone or other touchscreen device, because you have to retrain yourself to actually lift your thumb back off of the screen to let it pop back up between every single letter"
What's the difference between typing on the Storm and on the iPhone? Don't you lift your fingers off the screen on the iPhone? I thought you needed a dedicated app to type by sliding your finger around.
aside
gqcarrick
Posted 10:54 PM 8/10/08
@NFLBLitze1: ummm I wouldn't either. If it has wifi you can surf anywhere for free instead of using minutes or a plan. It is especially good if you live somewhere where cell phone coverage isn't that great.
gqcarrick
Ike_Skelton
Posted 10:50 PM 8/10/08
"blah blah blah VZW. Para espanol marka dos"
I hate those Verizon Wireless commercials. Since when did Verizon Wireless translate to VZW?! VW, yes, but where does the Z come from? Is their name actually Veri Zon Wireless? Because then VZW could be their initials, but not if their name is in fact Verizon Wireless.
Ike_Skelton
Roast Beef
Posted 11:16 PM 8/10/08
Is there any chance this will ever be available with Tmo? I'm getting kinda tired of all the cool phones going to other providers (G1 not available in my area, sorry)
Roast Beef
Wegmans
Posted 11:06 PM 8/10/08
@matt buchanan:
Amen ma brotha, amen...
plus, no WIFI? really? Really?
Wegmans
m-p{3}
Posted 11:31 PM 8/10/08
If I had to get a business phone, I'd got with a Blackberry all the way now.
m-p{3}
fastharry
Posted 11:54 PM 8/10/08
No flash on the browser might be the deal breaker for me.......
There's a full HTML Web browser (no Flash), and the Storm will also support Verizon's V Cast Music and Mobile TV services, though not immediately at launch.
fastharry
mordecaidrake
Posted 11:40 PM 8/10/08
ya ill be getting that.
mordecaidrake
axed
Posted 11:38 PM 8/10/08
@NFLBLitze1:
me, i will not buy this phone now that they confirm no wifi
axed
axed
Posted 11:37 PM 8/10/08
was planning on getting this phone until they confirmed no wifi.
axed
sharkync
Posted 12:09 AM 9/10/08
@NFLBLitze1:
Thanks for the compliment. No WiFi = NO GO for me as well.
sharkync
DustinFinn
Posted 12:01 AM 9/10/08
@AJCoombs:
Oh, Man, I guess I have all my spec sheets confused.
I could have sworn it was mentioned that the EVDO REV A allowed for data & voice at the same time.
Must have been for the GSM/3G then ?
Uhg!
DustinFinn
f0rge
Posted 12:20 AM 9/10/08
will the battery suck? my gf's Bold is flashing low batt after 1 day of use, and she has to charge it every night.
our iphones on the other hand have 1/2-3/4 battery left with similar if not more use.
f0rge
Elijah86
Posted 12:41 AM 9/10/08
what the hell no wifi! No sale.
Elijah86
generall
Posted 1:16 AM 9/10/08
Great looking phone!
What I find interesting though is how similar a ClickThrough is to a ClickWheel, as on the old iPods. I'm really astounded that Apple didn't think of it first -- it's really kind of the same concept, only with a screen and not a wheel.
I wonder if other companies will try to copy RIM now?
generall
Ron-Mexico
Posted 1:24 AM 9/10/08
@Yaro: It would definitely be ideal, but since it'll be on Verizon (and maybe eventually Sprint's) network you it won't be a drawback NEAR as much as it would be if it were on AT&T.
Ron-Mexico
justsomereportingguy
Posted 1:55 AM 9/10/08
I am very impressed. BBerry actually broke my loyalty to Moto/Nokia phones and did a good job of it.
The BBerry OS has its troubles but so do all OS's (phones, PC etc). For the most part it is intuitive and does what it is supposed to do. I was frustrated with reboot/boot time on my Pearl so I hope they have that cleaned up for the Storm.
I HATE Verizon so I could never consider switching just to get the Storm but I am very impressed and just a little jealous of those Verizon customers. This is a nice looking phone.
justsomereportingguy
Noobs-R-Us
Posted 1:47 AM 9/10/08
this will only prolong the thumb injuries that crackbery users have experienced. By going to a touch sensitive panel like Iphone, Apple will avoid this type of injuries to their customers.
Noobs-R-Us
danishh
Posted 1:44 AM 9/10/08
need the wifi. Way to usefull when i spend my entire day on the McGill campus with ubiquitous wifi.
danishh
ALT
Posted 2:27 AM 9/10/08
Awesome! I can't wait to play with the screen.
ALT
onekny
Posted 2:22 AM 9/10/08
Wow, just wow! I was nervous about the screen clicking thingy but almost every review has been positive. Why are we still in October? I want this yesterday!
onekny
jackster
Posted 2:51 AM 9/10/08
No WiFi, No buy buy.
My Verizon contract is almost up, time to leave the Dark side for the other Dark side.
jackster
carsly
Posted 2:45 AM 9/10/08
Can you do a size comparo shot with another phone? Say an iPhone, curve or whatever you handy so we can get a better sense of visual dimensions.
carsly
Roggin
Posted 2:41 AM 9/10/08
What about HTML email? Any update on that for the BB?
Roggin
12-Inch Idongivafuck Sandwich
Posted 2:57 AM 9/10/08
Wow, I really want this. I just dumped my Pearl and purchased the iPhone, but would gladly return it for this phone.
Too bad I have to stay on ATT and can't jump to Verizon...
12-Inch Idongivafuck Sandwich
purple-pillows
Posted 3:32 AM 9/10/08
@shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog: you an do what just about everyone else does... credit card debt
purple-pillows
analyticalmind84
Posted 3:26 AM 9/10/08
@gqcarrick: ummm then get a unlimited data plan. You will need one for a BlackBerry anyways, it's pointless not to have one.
analyticalmind84
matt buchanan
Posted 3:48 AM 9/10/08
@aside: The whole screen is a button, so for it to register the next push, you have to let it physically pop back up before pushing it again for the next letter.
matt buchanan
gqcarrick
Posted 4:17 AM 9/10/08
@analyticalmind84: It doesn't help if you can't get reception in some places where I live, but thank you captain obvious. I am sure they won't sell the Storm without a data plan.
gqcarrick
PollockRoc
Posted 4:07 AM 9/10/08
Since it doesn't have a glass screen, how scratch resistant will it be? Will I need to get a protective cover?
PollockRoc
DustinFinn
Posted 3:59 AM 9/10/08
Has there been any mention of the GPS/aGPS and if VZW will indeed cripple the GPS?
I assume it will; VZW seems to hate WiFi and GPS and DataTx via BT...
I understand why they hate the WiFi - but i don't get the GPS and BT when the other carriers allow it...
DustinFinn
shifty_276
Posted 4:30 AM 9/10/08
@PollockRoc: reviews around the internets says it does have a glass screen.
shifty_276
Jkuhn
Posted 6:24 AM 9/10/08
@matt buchanan:
uhhhh, they've kinda never removed or "crippled" wifi on any of their devices, just bluetooth, which was, oh yeah, 3 FRICKEN YEARS AGO!
Jkuhn
jeepingeek
Posted 5:44 AM 9/10/08
@maven2k: I believe you'll only have to wait a couple more months for that. I'm pretty sure Verizon is just finalizing their purchase of Alltel now.
jeepingeek
RyaninCalgary
Posted 4:59 AM 9/10/08
No WIFI! WTF!
I've been holding out for this phone. Forget it.
RyaninCalgary
maven2k
Posted 4:56 AM 9/10/08
Great article on a really sweet looking phone. From this I think it is the first "real" alternative to the iPhone and on a decent network, too (sorry Gphone). Can't wait to try one. I just wish Alltel had it, they have every other Blackberry.
maven2k
RE-L
Posted 8:25 AM 9/10/08
The only thing that bothers me is that extra charge for data service every month. I spoke to some VZW reps today at my job (they gave me a 19% discount on my bill every month yay). I mentioned the BB storm because they had a bunch of phones on their table but no BB. They smiled and said OOOOH YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT, YES VERY SOON! But then I asked about the data charge (or whatever it's called) and it's $29.99 a month. Pleh. I don't need more charges. It's tempting but I don't know.
RE-L
RE-L
Posted 8:19 AM 9/10/08
@freakshow1: I do agree with Matt. The ClickThrough is a good middle ground between touchscreen and keyboard.
RE-L
Captain Angry
Posted 8:30 AM 9/10/08
@jozen: Predictive text on blackberry is awesome. If nothing else you can edit the library to change whatever you commonly mistype to whatever you want.
Captain Angry
ExNinja
Posted 9:17 AM 9/10/08
Question on the GSM aspect as this phone supports both CDMA & GSM. Do you know if it comes with a SIM card slot for use on GSM networks or would the owner be forced to have a roaming plan with Verizon for use on partner networks?
ExNinja
ford4life
Posted 9:39 AM 9/10/08
@Gilbert: @matt buchanan:
that is badass! exactly what i was hoping for when i heard about a clickable screen.
ford4life
matt buchanan
Posted 9:46 AM 9/10/08
@ExNinja: It's a SIM slot, though Verizon is obviously most happy to hook you up with Vodafone.
matt buchanan
ryanruff
Posted 10:07 AM 9/10/08
Aw, man! I love how this looks and the features look great...but I refuse to leave my old SERO sprint contract. Damn you verizon!
ryanruff
ibelli
Posted 11:50 AM 9/10/08
In your opinion, What is better the HTC Touch HD or this? Do you think that the HTCTHD will ever come stateside?
ibelli
mordecaidrake
Posted 11:35 AM 9/10/08
how was the internet browsing fast and smooth similar to the iphone?
mordecaidrake
rezin khanz
Posted 1:09 PM 9/10/08
ahh yes so its more like my 3 year old iriver clix
so revolutionary
rezin khanz
PollockRoc
Posted 12:08 AM 10/10/08
@shifty_276: Oh, really? Great. I was taking what Lazaridis said about not being able to type on a piece of glass to mean that this doesn't have a glass screen.
PollockRoc
matt buchanan
Posted 12:45 AM 10/10/08
@ibelli: This doesn't run WinMo.
matt buchanan
shifty_276
Posted 1:02 AM 10/10/08
I have a question that no one on any other site has asked. Matt if you would be so kind to answer it, I would most appreciate it.
When using ClickThru, you said it was about the equivalent of pressing a mouse button. My question is, when using the confirm click, does it actually make a click sound? I hope not as that would get really annoying when typing emails, etc.
Again, if you are still answering question, THANKS!
shifty_276
Benn00
Posted 5:42 PM 8/10/08
In landscape mode with the full keyboard. Will it autocorrect spelling if you type a wrong letter like the iphone or suretype?
Benn00
johurimam
Posted 4:30 PM 8/10/08
Sorry I lost all respect... What made blackberry so good is that it didn't have to copy, it had the power to set standards in the industry. But hey Apple hasn't patented glossy plastic products with shiny touchscreens.
Oh my this thing has features that are 5 years ahead of iPhone though ah MMS, 3.2MP, Bluetooth Stereo Audio!!
johurimam
DillonSketch
Posted 12:41 AM 9/10/08
Is verizon going to diable the GPS in the phone so that you have to pay for VZ Navigator, or wil the GPS feature work in free Apps like Blackberry Maps and Google Maps.
DillonSketch
OtisAnt
Posted 11:35 PM 8/10/08
I can't answer for Matt, but.... 1. it looks like there is a LED flash on the phone, plus the leaked specs indicate it has one. 4. assuming it can run all of the old BB software, the IM clients on current BB phones are really nice and are generally better than anything available on iPhone. Plus it does push mail better than iPhone. 5. does a bear poop in the woods? 6. assuming all of the leaked specs are correct and Verizon continues to suck their customer's wallets empty, then yes you can tether it for a fee.
OtisAnt
OtisAnt
Posted 11:31 PM 8/10/08
I agree...I like suretype for my fat thumbs moments and doing quick sms messages, but it'd be nice to have the option of turning on a full qwerty keyboard in portrait mode. My wife's name is Kim and for some reason suretype always autocorrects and puts in Jim, so now she's starting to think I'm having some gay fling with a guy named Jim.
OtisAnt
OtisAnt
Posted 11:29 PM 8/10/08
So you have an extra $4600 left over for other expenses.....I'd hope you'd be able to afford the phone and data. Verizon's training materials said it'll require a $30 or $45 unlimited data plan depending on whether or not you need corporate access. I was also told by my company's Verizon rep that it would cost $399 and include a $100 rebate for new users.
OtisAnt
OtisAnt
Posted 11:25 PM 8/10/08
I think they already announced that it'll have simultaneous voice and data for all networks.
OtisAnt
OtisAnt
Posted 11:23 PM 8/10/08
The clicking is mechanical, so you won't be able to turn off....but I hope there is a way in software to make it optional (ie touch the osk w/o clicking)
OtisAnt
santamaria14
Posted 2:11 AM 10/10/08
@DustinFinn: I think it has vz navigator. It was finally made available for blackberrys....
santamaria14
santamaria14
Posted 2:07 AM 10/10/08
@RyaninCalgary: Is wifi that necessary with Verizon??? Do you have verizon??!!
I understand the data charges, BUT if you have a Blackberry with Verizon you have to get a data plan anyways. Don't count out this phone because of wifi... In my experience with Verizon, if you don't have signal, you're probably not in a wifi hot spot either. In fact, if you can't get a signal your probably in an area that can barely get dial up....
santamaria14
matt buchanan
Posted 7:38 AM 11/10/08
@shifty_276: Um, it clicks like a button would.
matt buchanan