i'm ready to sell a kidney for a redesigned 17" mbp to replace mine, any buyers?

kidney condition:
-used
-the left one
-mid 80's model
-no return or refund

bishara

The best rumor is the one about price cuts. If the macbook line starts at $800 instead of $1099, that rocks. And it would probably still be an upgrade over today's $1099 model. Toss in the possibility of dedicated 3d graphics, and the $350 in Apple gift cards I have been hoarding.... world domination!

Andyr2120

@takemetoyourtoaster:
I just don't want a netbook, period. Kinda think they're a waste of cash.

Evil J

i will be the first in line if there's a macbook touch

mariathephan

uhh does nobody want a mac netbook? am i really the only one who doesn't want one really bad so i don't have to sacrifice a MSI Wind to the apple gods?

takemetoyourtoaster

I would love to see a 13" notebook that could simply (and efficiently) run FCS2.

Gilbert

@1967CamaroSS: Usually manufacturers will shape the billet so that there is minimal waste and need to recycle by melting it down. It would still be more expensive, I think, but not as astronomically high as you might think.

ezman

@smartboydan hates college: Having two models offering otherwise similar options would be even less efficient.

Gilbert

I so heart Bender...especially when he says, "I'm boned!"

KarinLovesYou

@1967CamaroSS: Unless they have two models. The folded sheet and the aluminum block. Plenty of fanboys would pay extra for the solid block MacBook.

smartboydan hates college

@bishara: I would wait til 2015 when the Macbook Super Duper Pro HD LE comes out before you do that :)

Earthslide

Has anyone stopped to think how ridiculously expensive it would be to carve MacBook case from a single piece of aluminum. Even if they recycle all the scrap melting it down and creating a new piece is simply not cost efficient.

1967CamaroSS

@Gilbert: Also, 8GB RAM, anyone? Anyone?

(And yes, I would use it.)

Gilbert

i'm ready to sell a kidney for a redesigned 17" mbp to replace mine, any buyers?

kidney condition:
-used
-the left one
-mid 80's model
-no return or refund

double post: the new thread discussions needs getting used to

bishara

@bishara: 10 bucks.

NeoXY

If there is a $800 MacBook...there are going to be ROITS. And dell might as well just pack up. 800 for a fashion accessory is nothing at all =p

NeoXY

Nah, this is the event where Steve walks out," and one more thing..Brick." flips off the crowd and 'bricks' everyone's iphones.

kahri

@1967CamaroSS:
yes, yes i have. i have been waiting for someone to bring up the waste and machining expense of making a case out of billet. as far as i know, you would have to mill out the center of the case. now, you could have the blank forged to have the pocket 90% cleared, but the time to finish it would be pretty heavy, and cutting all the outer holes even with a water jet would be a programming challenge. i would even venture that a laser would be hard pressed to keep the tolerances you need for mass production.

godwhacker

My guess: the picture on the Oct. 14 '08 invitation, it's not a laptop but the back of a multitouch tablet. Brick means 3 things: the tablet weighs as much as a brick, the manufacturing process only took one wide brick of aluminum and a tablet is essentially a wide brick. It'll be called Mac Touch and will replace the Mac Mini, the Apple TV and the MacBook and MacBook Pro.

It will have a: 7"-10" LCD, next gen CPU, non-desktop hardisk (tiny) and next gen GPU, will introduce a new typing method on the virtual keyboard, will have all the iPhone feature except the cellphone feature (two uniquely designed speakers, iPhone batteries grouped together), will make way for desktop apps to be downloaded to App Store (compatible with both desktop apps and iPhone apps), will also be a controller for other equipments with partnership (including house security, Macs and vehicles), will have biometrics for security (not a palm scan but a face recognition), optional iPhone piggyback adapter for cellphone function and mobile internet (3rd party for other phones to follow).

This MacTouch is essentially a bigger iPhone; having some of its parts from the LCD, to the camera, to the battery without the cell features. It will also be able to detech more than 5 multitouches. It is targetted for the house, as Microsoft surface competitor, as an Eee PC competitor and is meant for one hand computing (the new typing method will make it as fast as typing with two hands) that will replace the clamshell design for laptops, netbooks and the like but typing with two hands is optional. It is also meant to replace the mouse, stylus and keyboard combo. The MacTouch Pro (will replace the MacBook Pro) will have the MacTouch features but with pressure sensitivity. The multitouch design will also make way for different GUI (current GUIs are designed for the mouse/keyboard/stylus combo and is limited to one at a time system) which, for gradual transition, will start to evolve after Snow Leopard then come OS 10.8 (two years after Snow Leopard) to OS 11, it'll be completely different, no more Dock or Menus/limited menus (like what you've seen in Jeff Hahn's system). For the most part icons (which is actually a command in picture without the menu hierarchies) and gestures will be the new menu and commands.

MacBook Touch haptic to follow that will make it accessible for the disabled and for the rest to be able to do things better without looking, if you're using it as a controller for your Mac and other equipments for example. The Pro version will of course be a little bigger (10" at most) and more powerful. The screen size in years to come will not change- these are essentially meant to be light and portable, 17" laptops proved to be too big.

Apple just says notebook but because a notebook should literally be like a notebook which you use with one hand to hold and write. It did say months ago that there are really innovative things to come, it won't be innovative if it's another clamshell design which Apple is trying to get rid off and instead is shifting the way we interact with gadgets through the flexibility of a multitouch (by multitouch it means 5 or more detection) screen which the iPhone started.

alvin777

@alvin777: You've looked way to into this. Why waste all that energy analyzing this thing when waiting for guaranteed info is so much easier?

Toastie

What is apple hosting these events every year hoping that you follow their ipod model of buying a new laptop every year too?

Aturayd

@KarinLovesYou: I'm more partial to, "We're doomed! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMED!"

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

@NeoXY: $2500 and its yours, take it or leave it :)

bishara

@Earthslide: i have plenty of toes to give up, these things will be fashion statements then :) i'm not to keen on my pinky either, useless little thing.

bishara

"Some really really crazy people have been dreaming about tablet Macs."
..So freakin help me, if they build it, I will come.

Miranda Kali (Desperate But Not Serious)

@kahri: He says, "Brick" and then he takes a dook.

D.E.P.C.

@Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another du...: especially in the parabox episode, with metal and gold benders both shouting it in unison.

mferrari

1) New Macbook 1@Miranda Kali (Desperate But Not Serious):
That's what she said (sorry it was too easy)

daftrok

1) New Cinema Displays
2) Macbook Air bump (hopefully discontinued because it just sucks so much ass. Seriously ITS NOT ULTRAPORTABLE, ITS ULTRATHIN. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. If you make a notebook with a bigger frigging footprint than a Macbook 13 its just a bulimic Macbook that think's its worth something when its NOT)
3) Mac Mini bump
4) New Macbook and Macbook redesign all around
5) iPhone and iTouch firmware upgrades

daftrok

@alvin777: With all that time and energy, why not do something useful and try curing cancer or something.

chizelord

People have been dreaming of a tablet Mac since 1993.

dingus

My prediction

-Macbook and Pro line keeping their names

-Macbook getting an aluminum interior, white/black (customer's choice) plastic exterior. Staying with Core 2 Duo, up to 4GB of RAM. Possible SSD option.

-Macbook Pro becoming one piece of aluminum. Removable back to easily replace hard drive (possible graphic card slot also). Comes in regular and black aluminum. Still 1" thin. Option to upgrade to a Intel Quad core, and up to 6GB of RAM. nVidia graphics will be the higher mobile 9 series. Possible SSD option.

Jon B.

@KarinLovesYou: CHEESE IT!!

smartboydan hates college

@mariathephan: I will be right behind you! If it's like/better then the iTouch I'll be there with cash! :)

Hershey

@godwhacker: Perhaps this is why it's supposed to be "game changing" and "revolutionary".

Gilbert

@NeoXY:
Dell already has performance laptops at <$700. Not everybody cares about their laptop being a "fashion accessory".

terebakashi

Know what I want? I want a "web tablet" with a ~7" screen and the multitouch interface of the iPhone/iPod Touch, but a full-blown Mac OS X on it. That would just rule to control everything in my house.

MikeK

@alvin777: I will laugh at you when NOTHING of this happens and they show just a slimmer macbooks.

I know you will be dissapointed.

the iPhone is the mac tablet. the next version of the iphone will have a better screen resolution, and maybe will be a little bigger, gradually it will be more powerfull and do what a laptop can do.

Why create a phone-less tablet and then merge their tablet line with the iphone line ( after some time ) , it makes more logic to evolve the iphone gradually

lolec

My Guess Follow up: Hi. More clues that it'll be a multitouch tablet. The Apple Ad says: The spotlight turns to notebooks. But why would Apple make it obvious that's it's a really small notebook or a netbook- that would affect the interest of attendees a bit coz' there's nothing innovative about a small clamshell notebook form factor with faster/efficient things; other companies had done it. The ad could have just said, spotlight on netbook or cloudbook. Notebook form factor is something you generally use with one hand which to do things quickly with one hand in the current GUI we have is to use multitouch (at such a small screen your fingers will be able to click faster compared to a trackpad if the pointer has to go from the Dock to the menu for example).

Last clue is the price. If you take away the bottom part of a MacBook and just cram everything using iPhone/iPod Touch parts to the screen part (giving you a tablet form faster), add the iPhone/iPod Touch features and make the screen smaller than the MacBook at Eee PC screen size, add a slim blu-ray drive then the sub 1000 dollar is possible- it also saves a lot of materials especially the aluminum. It makes no sense that it's a thinner MacBook (the Air version) coz' Apple usually will price it the same as the last offering of the Mac model it upgraded which would be more than 1000 dollars. Also if you calculate the price of the iPod Touch into 4 you'd get around 916 dollars which is still 1000 dollars. Come to think of it the screen size of the iPod Touch is 3.5 diagonal if multiplied by two = 7" (since you need two more to form a rectangle the MacTouch's screen would be equal to four iPod Touch/iPhone screen). But this is only good for the MacTouch's screen size, it doesn't have to have four of every part of the iPodTouch/iPhone (though it could if it's offering higher models, two to four hardisk for backup or two to four batteries grouped). Since the base model could have just one next gen CPU and GPU, it could bring the price equivalent to only to 2 iPod Touch at around 399 to 459 dollars (or 499 knowing Apple's pricing strategy).

alvin777

@Gilbert:

check this
[gizmodo.com]

i am leaning towards a thick stamping with waterjet cut-outs

godwhacker

@alvin777: they have so many problems with mobile me to really be serious about cloud computing. the fact that macbook pro hasnt been updated (physically) in more than 5 years its enough to say something about them in the slogan (just like when they updated the iMac white to the aluminium or the powerbook to macbook pro)

esh-satril

@MikeK:mmm..mmm..... yeha... i have one already i call it "samsung Q1 ultra with leopard thanks to x86 project" mac

esh-satril

Apple's going to need to bring the specs up on their MBP to get to Dell's level these days. They're getting left in the dust. I'd hope they'll bump them up to match the Dell M6400:

Quad core extreme edition processor w/ 12 meg cache
1920x1200 LED screen (like the MBP)
16 gigs of ram
RAID 1 Solid State Drives
Quadro FX 3700 with a gig of ram
Built in GPS and mobile Broadband
8-in-1 card reader; ExpressCard 54; PC Card
2mp webcam with stereo mics
fingerprint reader
shuttle touchpad
backlit keyboard (like Mac's)

I took shipment of one today, same specs, but with 4 gigs of ram

Sure it weighs a ton, but when it comes to doing 3d and CAD work, it runs circles around anything Apple offers (other than the Mac Pro), using 1/2 the energy. Pretty impressive stuff. That's what I expect Apple to release.

geekpi

its just going to be a new keyboard like the macbook and better guts, and some little things, just like all the other upgrades, from the transparent keyboard to titanium then to aluminum and 3 different sizes (12,15,17), etc. etc. so lets not get exited, there is not going to be a big differences unless its a totally new family but then again they like to keep it to a minimum, no more than 3 similar things, ipod touch- iphone, ipod nano- classic, macbook- pro- air, imac 20- 24 inches, so there.

esh-satril

As a recent traitor to the PC world, I bought my first Macbook last week and NOW they are coming out with new ones? This pisses me off. I hate this whole notion of perceived obsolescence which Apple is unfortunately so good at doing these days. As a tech geek I love having the best and newest but now it seems like I just got screwed...

coverofnight

@coverofnight:

That's why with Apple products you ALWAYS have to keep an ear to the rumors. We heard back in late July and early August that resellers were stocking up on current MacBooks and MacBook Pros. This is generally what they do before a new release is expected.

This combined with a lot of the other rumors was too much for me to dive in and by a new one. And we'll see what they release. If I'm totally thrilled with the new one, I'll buy it. If the older one is enough for me, then I'll be able to save some cash.

Apple used to have a price break for people who purchase "old" models 30 or 60 days before the release of a "new" model. Not sure if they do this or not, but would be worth looking into - could soften the blow a bit if you save a few bucks with your purchase...

bsbeamer

@coverofnight: I'm pretty sure you could return your Macbook for the new one if you purchased it 30 days in advance. Though I could be wrong, it may only be a 14 day policy. Worth looking into either way.

youngcap

@coverofnight:

As an Apple product buyer, you'll get used to it. I recommend going to...

[buyersguide.macrumors.com]

...before buying anymore Apple products.

That being said, if you just bought it last week, at a retail store, you should be able to take it back if it's still in perfect condition, once the new one is released. Apple stores that are nice usually allow 2 weeks if a new product comes out and you want to trade.

Jon B.

well i think it's saft to say that the Macbook Air will get a hardive boost, remember the 240gb 1.8" HDD's that came our after the last apple event.

My guess would be that the whole macbook family will switch to 1.8" HDD's and SSD's as a setup option, with 2.5" if wanted for 250gb+. Claiming that it's 'Greener' to use the 1.8" but if you need more space you can have it in a un-green 2.5" retrofit

Multitouch tracker pads on the whole family but not in glass

MB/MBP will get a makeover to look like fat versions of the air

Backlit LCD screens and maybe keyboard aswell

New graphic card

Wishfull thinking: Blu-Ray drive, better battery, glass track pad, webcam upgrade, speaker upgrade, touch screen or 7"-10" Touch-netbook.

Coppers15

@Hershey:

see you there!!

mariathephan

@alvin777:
Nice of you to pull all of that out of your ass !
Why would a tablet mac have a glowing apple on the back ?
Where would you set it ? it would have rubber feet on the bottom like the base of a notebook.

Also how would a tablet mac replace the mac mini, apple tv and MB(P)? It would be a new product and would certainly not replace a mac mini or an apple tv.
This is basically a description of what happened in your head after you last masterbated over your iphone
(wipe clean just like a macTouch)
Another factual come down would be that Snow leopard is 10.6 so 2 years after that we would have 10.7 not .8

I do love reading this kind of shit though, reminds me just how stupid diehard mac fans are.
They live outside of actual present day technology much like startrek fans. WARP FACTOR OS11 STEVE

Fourthletter

@Gilbert: Here here!

Schalliol

Ihope it will at least come stuffed with good amateur porn

faunaman

@geekpi:

But will it blend?

artvanderbilt

@mariathephan: There will be no MacBook "Touch" if apple is smart. Macbook "Digitizer" maybe. OS X is about content creation, a Pen-Based tablet is one of the best ways of doing that, fumbly fingers because all of your fans want it? Nuh uh. Not a big business decision for Apple ;) The studios that use these still far outnumber the regular users. And they're always purchasing the biggest and the best.

FadedSpark

My two favorite things summed up in one single post at Gizmodo:

- Bender
- Macs (as well as rumors about Macs)

Eruanno

A mac mini refresh would be welcome also but Im not holding my breath.

h0mi

@esh-satril:
And that would make you a pirate.

DisposableInterloper

@Earthslide:
Needlessly complicated naming schemes are in everyone's domain but Apple's.

DisposableInterloper

@Gilbert: (It could always be two pieces...

Gilbert

@godwhacker: Interesting notion, for sure. I wonder how they would get the water jets to "stop" halfway without cutting the underside of the case when carving out those keyboard key-holes.

I suppose they could turn the jets up just enough to get through the first layer an simply splash away upon reaching the second...

Of course, my only real knowledge of this process stems from American Chopper, so I really don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

Gilbert

When the tablet mac comes out you owe us "really really crazy" people an appology

bwilliams18

If it's a quad-core macbook pro, I will poop myself. That is a promise.

bnsqueak

@Gilbert:

looking at the drawings that were on the patent form, i would say that there will more than likely be an upper and lower tray, with the sides mechanically fastened or perhaps welded. robotic welding is becoming pretty advanced, and as long as you have a good jig setup you can have the kind of repeatable result production requires

godwhacker

@bnsqueak: You of course realize you will need to provide photos.

shockwaver

@Earthslide: It's obvious that bishara is planning on that... why else would he be holding back on selling the other kidney?

morcheeba

@bwilliams18: The event is "Spotlight turns to NOTEBOOKS." A tablet is not a notebook, I am terribly sorry. Also, something as big as a tablet would likely be held for Macworld. If it exists, I would expect to see it then, not at a special event.

bnsqueak

@takemetoyourtoaster:

I'd love a Mac netbook. I need a light weight laptop to take to school occasionally. I've been looking at the many netbooks out there. The only netbook I would consider buying is the Dell inspiron mini since it has a lot of nice features. Plus it can run OSx fairly well.

Jonathan21

@FadedSpark: Nothing to say they couldn't sell a special pen to go with it for the ones who need it, and give me my touch for the ones who don't need it yet ;)

SnakeDiver

@mferrari: YESSSS!!! Oh man, he's so good.

KarinLovesYou

@kahri: NNnnnooooooo not my iPHONE!!!!! Jobs is becoming senile enough to do it though =/

SnakeDiver

brick is wireless usb "docking station" in the power brick that also supports displaylink

AugustJalopy

"-Macbook Pro becoming one piece of aluminum. Removable back to easily replace hard drive (possible graphic card slot also). Comes in regular and black aluminum. Still 1" thin. Option to upgrade to a Intel Quad core, and up to 6GB of RAM. nVidia graphics will be the higher mobile 9 series. Possible SSD option." If this happens, I will be a very happy man. Quad core is a little bit of a stretch but all of the other options is pretty reasonable.

WalterThallo

Even though it is wishful thinking, having the iphone touchscreen track pad would be AMAZING!!!!! I mean come on, you cant say that you've tried to get from one corner of the screen to the other just by going to the corner of the trackpad...

sabz333

So - I hadn't really thought about this form factor as a possibility before, but maybe....

What's to hate about a touchscreen Apple netbook with CPU/GPU, SSD, and motherboard behind the screen so that the screen is detachable to act as a tablet?

I'm not talking about a wireless touchscreen; I'm talking about a tablet that docks into a netbook. The lower half "dock" is a backup battery, keyboard and multitouch trackpad, an HDD (for backup and for large media storage), a disc drive (CD/DVD/BluR), and a plethora of extra ports. The tablet could charge from the base or through an additional charging port. Naturally, the tablet could function in landscape or portrait mode when detached.

This would incorporate/allow for concepts like this patent: [www.macnn.com] as well as providing a real workable tablet. Students could carry just the tablet part to class for taking notes (a stylus probably wouldn't be necessary if Apple used concepts from this patent: [www.engadget.com]), but if they needed to write a research paper they could snap the tablet into the base, fold it up, and carry it to the library like an ordinary (albeit touchscreen) netbook.

SSD and touchscreens are both pretty expensive, but not prohibitively so. With this setup, you are looking at an Apple Tablet (every Apple geek's nerdgasm) with full notebook capability. Priced sub-$1000, these things would sell like mad. Applications for students, graphic designers, audio/video editing, and business.

What's not to love?

appleeinstein

I, for one, could care less about rumors (Apple or otherwise), but I'm grateful for this idea of centralizing all related rumors onto one page. Keep it up!

EricAlder

@esh-satril: correction: ipod is four (iphone, touch, classic, nano).

srdailey

Tablets, shmablets. List of the obsessions of the long-winded and delusional:

1) Linux
2) Tablet PCs

List of what no one else cares about:

(see above)

Jesssssse