Do they have one for gramophone wax cylinders? The tonal qualities of those cylinders blow CDs and vinyl out of the water. I can't imagine how great my cylinders would sound if they were absolutely perfect cylinders.

MayorBee is getting what plants crave

@Turbo Driver: No... belt drive decouples the platter from vibrations from the motor. Direct drive is preferred by DJ's, but audiophiles prefer belt drive.

I hate belt drive because mine broke recently and I had to hunt a bit to find a replacement.

s0crates82

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s0crates82

@Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another du...: *belt

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

BTW, is the belt they use to spin the pulley a Monster Belt? B/c if not, you will never get the rotational torque needed to overcome the lack of sufficient brake horsepower, which will lead to underspin. But let's see how good this really works. And to that, we turn it over to our tame DJ's. Some say, their breath smells of mercury, and that they roam around the woods at night foraging for wolves. All we know is they're called, the Daft Punk Stigs!

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@BoinK: you need to get out more.

venomous_duck41

Laugh as you might. This jackass probably makes this contraption for <$20. He'll probably sell about 2-3 of these worldwide over the next year... you do the math.

DustyButt

P-shaw! If it doesn't mill the CD to perfect thickness at the same time, what's the point?

EricAlder

But is it made by Pear Audio? If not, I declare it inferior.

Elvisisdead

Wait a minute. I thought a CD was a perfect circle? Aren't they made by computers where they like laser accurate the CD to be a perfect circle. Maybe I'm just crazy or something.

newdeepdan

And what's with belt drive? Heck, REAL a-philes know Direct Drive's the real shizz...

Wolf

Turbo Driver

I've been doing this manually for years. It really makes a huge difference. Last year I got myself a cable straightener as well. It takes out any kinks in the audio cables so that the electrons don't bounce around too much, while small, the difference is worth it.

BoinK

You poor fools, do not know what you are missing, I'm going to buy 4 of them, one to keep in each house.

CooperDToo

@Dr.Danger, Hasta la victoria siempre!: Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

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@Xenocide: Will it work on DVDs too? I'm hoping it could help with the crappy image I get from my old Sammy DVD player...

Alex7575

The variations are meaningless. The data processors and buffers compensate for any fluctuations. No matter what happens with the disk, your hearing a steady stream. It's NOT analog, it's digital.

This is really stupid.

If there is a scratch in the CD, it picks it up on the next time around.

This is an example of the truely stupid rich people.

MadMacs

@Git Em SteveDave loves this guy-->: Oh that would be bad, especially since the first track is the Logical song. I love that one..

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

$900?? No thanks. I'll just bolt my CD's to the front of my drill and take the edge off with a belts sander...

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

c@Xenocide:
It also reduces the air drag of the cd to increase the spin rate!

I just bought a case. 12 20oz bottles for only $1000. Good deal.

LiquidGravity

Sweet, now I can get that extra uumph from my Whitney Houston album

You know, It's hard to choose a favorite among so many great tracks, but The Greatest Love of All is one of the best, most powerful songs ever written about self-preservation, dignity. Its universal message crosses all boundaries and instills one with the hope that it's not too late to better ourselves. Since, Elizabeth, it's impossible in this world we live in to empathize with others, we can always empathize with ourselves. It's an important message, crucial really. And it's beautifully stated on the album.

Dr.Danger, Hasta la victoria siempre!

And for only $100 more you get this CD oil to make your CD spin more easily. This eliminates electronic interference from the CD platter motor working so hard!

Xenocide

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$900? That's a poor man's money.

-Scrixx-

, according to idiots.

Aren't they Idiotfiles?

But seriously, and I have to ask, how does it compensate for the twitching hands? Why not make it automated? Does it have a stop to prevent you from erasing the first track of "Leonard Nemoy Sing Super Tramp"?

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because god forbid they should design progressive scanning and higher resolution CD lenses for a fraction of the cost.

Overheal

I was under the impression that jitter occurs in the DAC..

My sound design instructor did this thing where he played a sound and pretended to alter it and then asked us what he did. He did nothing but it sounded different.. So, yeah.. BS.

Ethan Halko!

I hear Monster is coming out with a similar device for $2350.

bandit

@bobojuice:
Your all idiots including me.
Okay its over.

th4tkid

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the first track is in the center. they write inside to outside.
but still, i wonder if the literature says it dampens the jitters or damps the jitters. that is still my favorite pet peeve. dampens, eh,, ya,

pacopaco

I'd like to put an audiophile's head in there, make it perfectly round.

alowishus

Sharpies, Pear cables
odd contraptions for big bucks
fools, money; parted.

prsiii

@Barry99705: Sorry there, sonny. When I was a boy, music that came on round disks had the first track on the outside, and that's the way we likest it! Too much pudding, that's you problem. My car got 40 rods to the hoghead. That reminds me of the time time I took the ferry over to Shelbyville; I needed a new heel for my shoe. So, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. 'Give me five bees for a quarter,' you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have any white onions, because of the war; the only thing you can get was those big yellow ones.

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This will go really well with my Monster Brand coat hangers.

Barry99705

@LiquidGravity: That's a bunch of crock if you ask me. I bet it's all the same oil in the end...

Alex7575

@Lokiprimary: @venomous_duck41: you guys are both idiots.

bobojuice

there should be a course in high school teaching the difference between analog and digital.

k4ffy

@Git Em SteveDave loves this guy-->: The first track is in the center. That some serious palsy.

Barry99705

And what is with all the white stringy stuff all over the machine, are those really Porn DVDs ?

throwinglittlepickles

Funny, the only CD I've ever heard that said "A Perfect Circle" on it sounded like shit.

m4ximusprim3

@BoinK: I hope that there is sarcasim in that comment

Lokiprimary

@Alex7575:
Sorry CD oil only works on CDs. Different formats require different solutions. They do have DVD oil, XBOX disk oil, Wii disk oil, PS3 disk oil, Game Cube disk oil,... So you should be able to find the right one for each of your formats.

LiquidGravity

@BoinK: It's always a challenge getting the last kink out of the coat hanger wire.

balloondoggle

Do they also make one for mini CD's?

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

@CooperDToo: Are you sure four will be enough, Senator? Or do you only need three?

balloondoggle

@Purple Dave: Or you could attach 4 to an RC car in place of the wheels. Five minutes on the driveway should do it...

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

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balloondoggle

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x23

This is going to impart an incredible magnetic field on that disk, you know that?

Then those thingies won't go as well into the doodads that make all this shit work!

They probably also haven't even heard.

You mean...you haven't heard?
(Brian DON'T!!!)

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strider_mt2k

Hmm. I need to develop a device that then takes and eliminates the microscopic-level debris that would collect on a CD after being used in the above device... because as any idio-- erm, audiophile would know, all that debris must be causing jitter and instability and ruining the audio quality.

LoadStar

@Elvisisdead: The Anjou CD re-roundifier will be on sale next week for the bargin basement price of $10 Gazillion dollars. The are offering a $40 Bajillion dollar prize to anyone who can tell with an unaided eye the CD is less round. The 'Amazing Randy' need not apply.

Maxxofor

I don't know, I have a number of out-of-round disks I'd love to trim just so they don't shake the snot out of my laptop drive (or xbox 360 drive, that thing is bloody sensitive to disk balance). The vibration noise alone is certainly annoying for music/movie enjoyment, jitter debates aside. In audio players though the disk spins slower than in pc drives, so the vibration isn't as loud.

The problem isn't really the concept, the problem is the price. Anyone who would spend this much, already has a nice quiet, expensive, buffered cd player that just isn't going to get much benefit from the trim.

devwild

@Ethan Halko!: He was probably teaching you how to "fake out" a future client.

johnnyabnormal

@Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another du...:
I prefer to nibble at the edges with my teeth until they're perfectly smooth...

Purple Dave

What's a CD? Does it work on an iPhone?

Duke

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johnnyabnormal

@throwinglittlepickles:
Ewww...CD spooge.

smegz

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smegz

@s0crates82: pfft! All true audiophiles know that belt drives are crap.

Suspender drives are the only way to go!!

ideaman2020

You need to put it on $900 wood blocks to reduce the quantum vibrations...

Con Seannery

@Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another du...: Are you kidding? With this contraption, you can actually MAKE mini CDs from your full-size CDs!

lankysob

@CooperDToo: What, McCain has more houses than you? I personally have 72...

Con Seannery

@MayorBee is getting what plants crave: Just be careful when handling:

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They'll also be releasing the new CD Smootherizer. It'll smooth those annoying imperfections on the cd surface to give you the crispest sounding digital signal around. Only $1200.

Invisobel

@smegz: The best part of having BBCAmerica is mini Top Gear marathons every weekend.

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free monster cables in the bundle?

Ariel_Wollinger

I take it none of you has had an out-of-round CD shatter in their drive. I have, scared the crap out of me when it blew. Of course, it took the drive w/ it.

The ONLY thing I could see this being good for is if you had to move data off of a CD in a real hurry. But, I think you could probably do it faster than w/ a slightly slower drive if you had to "correct" your cds/dvds to achieve said speed in the first place.

Those 4x, 6x, etc write speeds are based upon the tolerances in which a disc is manufactured. Exceeding this in a write environment could yield less than optimum results obviously.

And, playback is the same rate. They stopped advancing CD-ROM/DVD speeds hugely because past a certain point they couldn't get the medium to spin smoothly enough. In some cases the discs would actually shatter inside the drive.

Pretty much anything over 52x (~20k rpm or so) in a CD-ROM drive will shatter a disc.

Though these days w/ flash drives able to store MORE information than a CD, no reason to not just send them back and forth instead. Less delicate anyway.

Lite

@throwinglittlepickles: JiTTer... it's supposed to be about jiTTer.

Dave!

@m4ximusprim3: LOL. I like that band but that was funny.

Zlevee

@devwild: Or they could pay the local precision engineering company to do it for them.

Theophilus P. Wildebeeste

i definitely need one of these for my bathroom!

fuzzymuffins

@Con Seannery: Or two feet of water. That's what they needed to shield the astronauts when they went to the moon!

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Super. So what you have done now is exposed the edge of your CD, DVD whatever to air and started the oxidation process that will, eat the 20ish micron layer of vapor deposited metal that was nicely sealed before some TOOL invented this. Not only that but you are very likely promoting surface de-lamination. I worked in quality control for a CD manufacturer and witnessed un-coated disc oxidation. Enjoy your disc lathe and the ruined Disc's you will make with it.

jsaint

Jitter in the digital stream? Bullshit!

It's the clams that make it hurt.

BeautifulAgony

@lankysob: Oh well in that case I will have no trouble saving the first track of Leonard Nimoy sings Supertramp then...

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

@Dooosh: It's like a record, only smaller shinier...

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

WTF is a cd?

Dooosh

@DustyButt: I'm sure he's making a lot of money, but I really doubt it costs less than $20 to make this. Think of material costs (aluminum), parts (motor + electronics), as well as labor to assemble the thing.

japroach

@BeautifulAgony: "It's the clams that make it hurt."

Yes, those clams do have a mean bite...

Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude

@ideaman2020: I thought hydro-drive was the only way to go for the aphile with more money than brains...

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bpapa9013

i have one of those. its called putting it on a Dremel and holding a file to the edge

enchantedgoose

"Dude! You can't put that CD in my CD player!!! You have to use mine!"
"Whats the difference bro? They're just CD's!"
"No! Mine is rounder."

mrtallbones

wobble in a CD has no effect on sound quality.

It's not an analog record.. It's digital.. the digital packets are read in decoded and clocked out at a regular speed. the most you would get is skip if a packet could not be decoded in time to be clocked out. But that is what the buffers are for.

Wobbly ones and zeros .. bah..
Monster should buy this and try to seel it with their over priced cables.

PocketLint

We are all idiots...because we didn't think of it and sell it to the other *real* idiots out there.

DG

@Maxxofor: I would recommend you charge 10 BRAZILLIAN DOLLA, on account of the economy and all.

10 BRAZILLION DOLLA MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!1!

bpapa9013

@Xenocide: it would be cheaper to just use ballsauce

winmac

@MadMacs: Jitter is a real problem that produces audible effects in some cases, but I'm not sure if unbalanced CDs are one of them.

That said, there are better ways to deal with jitter. Like ripping CDs to a hard drive. Or buying a CD built to handle jitter, as you suggest. But not every CD player can handle it.

Ward

This thing is useless, we all know mini-disk is the purest audio source.

LankySean

Woah..that is awesome. I just might get one of these, but first I have to find that black marker to write a big fat black "L" on my forehead.

1nut

Has anyone here listened to a disc processed by the CD Sound Improver? Maybe we could here an improvement. It's been around for years with most audiophiles I know refusing to believe that it could work. But several have been willing to produce a sample CD for comparison claiming the difference is clearly audible. I've never bothered to test it because 90% of my music collection is still vinyl.

Could be worth a test?

saronian

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shakes

Why oh why did I click on your Furutech tag? I have spent the last 20 minutes of my life reading a year-and-a-half thread old and freaking replying. I knew it was old, but I just couldn't contain myself in case some sap stumbled into it.

One thing to say about this BS here, though. At least it does something.

andyo

@LiquidGravity: FAIL -- You bought the off-brand stuff. Only the MonsterCable oil works.

Hyman Decent

I believe this about as much as I believe people can see a graphical difference between 720p and 1080i.

justhesh

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bucho54

I think the real question is, does it make my CD's more "danceable"?

Crim Law Geek

holy crap, a 900 dollar desk lathe? Insanity.

Too bad it wasn't priced at what it's really worth. It'd be a cool toy to reeingineer for other interesting things.

plastikwaren

So if the CD is imperfect to begin with, wouldn't it make sense to assume that the data would be "jittered" while the CD was being burned? This would make the refining kind of useless, right?

mobiusmind

Who still uses CD's?!?!

VivianCyparissus

Wow...

MadMonkey572

I am currently in possession of a bridge that improves your CD's audio quality as well. I am willing to sell this bridge to someone who is truly concerned about getting the most out of their digital media.

RosaliaHaole

@Alex7575: It's even more insidious than that. The oil is really just emulsified suet. Pork fat makes everything run better.

obeisance