This is going to be one more product that apple fanboys defend: "Oh look, they copied the iPhone's dual driver headphones!" Do some research before you make comments like these people!

2001gsr

POST ME COMMENT!

kgbrolic

Blackberry headphones work with iphone!

kgbrolic

@The Magnificen7: Wow, you folks are touchy over here. I was making a snarky joke. You know, J-O-K-E? Those things commentors on gawker network are supposedly famous for?
In case you miseed it in your apple fanboy fury, I was poking fun at the fools on the new york subway who obviously wish they had better earbuds that don't fall out of there ears, or you know, play decent quality music, but are too into being "branded correctly" with the white wire to buy better ones. But thanks for playing. All contestants will receive a $50 gold watch and a copy of our home game.

@ttech10: We'd need a full ad campaign to make them acceptable, plus pictures of size zero actresses sporting them while sipping Starbucks. Not only would I love to see black apple earbuds to go wit the black ipods, I'd also love to see bright rainbow earbuds to go with those new bright rainbow Ipod Nanos. Because that would amuse me highly.

anibundel

I agree with what several others have said: enough with the white!

StevieQ

The in-ear headphones have always frightened me just a little bit...

Schizmo

@mangochutney: I'm in total disbelief as well. But basically they just dated their 3 month old iPhone. Those volume controls look so good too! Damn you Apple!

transzoo

These look tasty, if you're into the in ear thing. I will give them a shot (usually buds don't stay in my oddly shaped ears).

Ultimately, I'm old enough to not care about how I look, so I just wear my grado's everywhere. I look like a sonar operator on some 70's soviet submarine, but the music sounds great :)

m4ximusprim3

So why are these not compatible with iPod Touch 1st Gen? That makes absolutely no sense to me. Another "screw the early adopter" tactic.

Agent-199

@ttech10: The product page shows that it has the same mic and volume buttons as the other announced headphones.

Also at the bottom of the page, it lists compatible devices and the iphone is left off.

PLUS, on the product page, it explains that the mic is used to record voice notes on compaible models. Nothing about making or receiving calls.

Lame. Especially since there is no reason for it not to work.

Kevo113

helldriver, you've never tried to buy good in ear headphone before, have you? $80 is low priced.

KHarvey16

I read the page over and over again, but you guys are right, the iPhone is not mentioned there.

Still, it would foolish - to say the least - of Apple not to make them compatible with the iPhone.
I kinda don't believe this is happening.

mangochutney

These have the mic as well, plus presumably decent audio. You'd think that if it was compatible with the iphone they would say so. Since these are listed under ipod accessories, I checked under iphone accessories to see if they were listed there as well w/ different info, but no.

bagelche

@bagelche: Maybe they just left out iPhone and said ONLY those iPods so people with other iPods wouldn't complain about it not working... who knows.

Also, I thought it was different headphones that had the mic in it?

ttech10

Why is it becoming the norm now for Apple to make something great incompatible with the rest of its current offerings? Ugh.

mcdj

@Endeavour: I hope you're being sarcastic. If that troubles you, you are a sub-human, laking the ability to click your thumb three times in under a second.

The Magnificen7

@bagelche:

wtf......

OGHowie

for that price, you could probably buy an MP3 player directly competing with the Ipod Touch AND headphones

helldiver

Quadruple click removes all bugs from the buggy firmware.

vandy1997

Something's wrong, Apple don't sell good things for less than anyone else, there's a mandatory 200% mark-up.

Onouris

triple click for previous track?

very user-friendly.

Endeavour

@anibundel: So 73% of the MP3 player market are snobs? An argument could be made for the other 27%.

The Magnificen7

I hate Apple, why oh why can't they make these work with the iPhone 3G!?!?! Don't believe me? From the product webpage: "The remote and mic are supported only by iPod nano (4th generation), iPod classic (120GB), and iPod touch (2nd generation). Audio is supported by all iPod models." Thanks Apple!

transzoo

Do these come packed in with the new iPods, or are they only sold seperately?

Derek, IN

@vasha: Am I the only one who got your sarcasm?

It was sarcasm, right? Right?

TimurY

Apparently the mic won't work with the iphone! Here's from the info page on apple.com:

*Compatibility Information

The remote and mic are supported only by iPod nano (4th generation), iPod classic (120GB), and iPod touch (2nd generation). Audio is supported by all iPod models.

bagelche

Blackberry OEM headphones would be much better to me. Good sound quality and it has a microphone. iPhone and blackberry OEM headphones to match.

kgbrolic

@anibundel: Maybe they can put the apple logo all over them in neon green... that way people will notice.

I'm with every other person who wants a color other than white.

ttech10

@matt buchanan: You're right. I almost forgot that Shure didn't exactly cancel these phones.
Depending on your audio source and your taste I'd go for the Westone UM2 if I were you.
The latter alleviates the rolled off bass on the old Nanos and the Touch.
They create a nice and warm sound.
The E4cs play nicely with the Classic and the new iPhone and are rather linear.

By the way: I hope that Apple put this new audio-chip inside the new iPods!

mangochutney

Having tried four different models of in ear phones, I have yet to hear something I like. But, hope springs eternal, and I will probably buy these.

stretta

um, in the same breathe, how do you know these are decent in contrast. Apple has yet to prove themselves in the audio market. Right now, they're in the same class as Bose as crappy quality, and overhyped marketing.

deadhouseplantz

What a rip-off!!

th3gh05t

What a ripoff!

th3gh05t

@alukard: But a black option doesn't provide the ostentatious "I'm an apple snob" look so many new yorkers are looking to sport on the subway.

anibundel

@vasha: I have a pair of CX300s. The only thing that doesn't suck about them is that they're comfortable.

dingus

@vasha: Wow, way to make an assumption before ANYONE has had a chance to try these out. You might be right, but for all you know these could make you cx300's look like $5 headphone from a bin in Wallmart. And if you hate Apple, why bother reading the threads and commenting on them?

craig_16

@mangochutney: Scrambled wires there. I'd been heavily ogling the e4c-n buds--which have dual drives--over the weekend and they're basically the same price as the SE210s.

matt buchanan

@vasha: Son, have you ever listened to an IEM?
Even if those things suck in compared to other IEMs, they'll definitely blow away every dynamic driver earphones.
Including those fancy new Sony's

mangochutney

@vasha: It's amazing that you already know your current headphones are better than ones that haven't even been released yet!

EndlessMike

@vasha: Your other ones are better? Okay, thanks for letting us know since apparently you have already used these newely announced ones.

I wish I had the abilities you had to use products that aren't even out on the market (or even announced) yet.

ttech10

I need new headphones for my iphone. if these have the mic, they could work well. I, too, would rather have black. I look forward to hearing more about them.

bagelche

They most likely suck. My 35 dollar cx300 are better.

I hate apple and was not impressed by anything there.

vasha

I want these headphones with the iphone mic/button. Straight up headphones are useless to me.

Marcelo

today for these or when the others come out in a month?

CEOself

Gotta agree with ACEzWILD... they've progressed into the color world with the devices, now they need to get rid of the "rob me" white headphones.

PornoDaddy

black option please

alukard

would it kill them to have a black option for once??? huh?? -__-

alukard

Great idea...HORRIBLE color...

ACEzWILD

Maybe if Stevie announced they would make their armbands big enough to fit around anything larger than a male's *forearms* that would be nice.

rackley

want, but not in white.

gizak

Sorry, Shure SE210 is a single balanced armature driver setup. The SE420 do have two drivers and they are about $350,-
The Westone UM2 are dual driver IEMs and they sell for around 300 bucks.

Those new Apple in ears are gonna have to prove themselves.

mangochutney

umm so do these also include the in band control for volume and playback?

bjarnia

Want.

Blinklink11

Today is a good day indeed.

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

@gokieks: "but at $100 less, wouldn't expect them to." That's possible, but you got to know, Apple has economies of scale on their side.

I f they're not dumb, they'll buy high quality materials in large quantities and start to stirr up that IEM-market a bit.

mangochutney

These look like the terrible kind of earphones that I really dislike. Sorry.

Eruanno

Could be interesting. I doubt that they'll prove superior to the JAYS q-JAYS (yes I know, terrible naming) which I use, but at $100 less, wouldn't expect them to.

gokieks

@2001gsr: Well, I think you can rest assured, that should that ever occur at least Matt Buchanan will pull out the ban-hammer faster than you can say "balanced armature".

:)

Seriously, I think there are many Giz readers that use IEMs.
That won't happen too soon.

mangochutney

I hope they sound good. I just can't bring myself to spend $100 or more on good earbuds, but other types either hurt my ears or fall out. I have big, sensitive ears. :(

robotrousers

Should do, but I just read this on Ars:

"The headphones, which let you skip/pause/play with a click just like the iPhone headphones, also let you adjust volume up or down. I asked whether they would work with the iPhone, and the Apple rep said the company doesn't claim that they're supported. "It will work with skipping, pausing, etc. but I don't think the volume will change. That's not supported on the iPhone."

WTF?!?

Here's the link:
[arstechnica.com]

mangochutney

so does this work as a headset on iphone?

chickdigger802

@lunasdude: You live in a ghetto? WTF r u so afraid?

Noobs-R-Us

I have to agree with everyone about the white color!
these might be GREAT sounding headphnes! but the SHOOT ME for my ipod white has got to go.
I bought some nice Shure black Headphones for better sound and to live a little while so i can enjoy my ipods.
As for the sound I have NEVER wanted to buy major $$$$ Headphones for my ipod! why? it's not like there capable of doing justice to major $$$ headphones!
my shures were just under a $100 bucks and sound great!
But please all you AUDIO snobs who want to spend $300 or $400 dollars on headphone for your FREAKIN IPOD then please don't let any one part a fool from there money!

lunasdude

I will echo other comments....how about not white? Black would be better.

RE-L

Hifi audio for lowfi compressed audio am I correct?

SeattleTed

@anibundel: Listen, if you wanted to make it a joke, make it funny. These people aren't worried about being "branded correctly," they use them because they are included and don't feel like spending a bunch of money on different earphones. The earphones in the box are adequate. That is not a fit of fanboy fury, it was me pointing out that lots of people who use other MP3 players like to criticize the iPod in every way and stick up their nose at it, like you just did. That, my friend, is the definition of a snob.And for the record, O would rather listen to an Apple fanboy than an anti-Apple hater any day. (Wow, lots of 'an' there)

The Magnificen7

I understand why the mic doesn't work with the old iPods, because the earbud jack needs to have the extra connector for input, which would be a hardware change. I don't get why they can't get it to work with the iPhone, especially the 3G, because the iPhone already has the input connection for the mic and the button presses. Volume control, I don't see why they couldn't maybe update the firmware/software to handle the signals coming in from those commands either.

Also, why not black, and/or any other colors Apple makes the iPods in so they match.

aquajaws

wtf Apple's flagship iPod product the iPhone doesn't even work with this. Why does the mic not work? the regular iPhone headphones have a mic so wtf apple. Im just pissed cause these actually sound like a decent sounding/somewhat cheap headphones and that new iPhone 3G of mine can only play the audio with no mic or remote

ab3

@Noobs-R-Us: no, acctualy i live in a relatively small, safe city in the south west but i do travel to big city's (NY, LA, SF) etc and you do hear about people getting shot and robbed for there ipods and OVERWHELMINGLY when they catch one of the little bastards that did it, they say they saw the white headphones and knew the person had an ipod!
So no im not totally afraid but i would be stupid to simply ignore the very real danger for just having ...what? bragging rights? no thanks!

lunasdude

do they work with the 1st gen iphone?

sibbe

@everyone having a go at vasha: yes, he's making an assumption that the new 'phones will suck but, to be fair, he's making no more of an assumption than Matt did by saying this:

The first iPod earbuds that don't suck-amazing.

Step666

If you want black, buy a Sharpie. You could even color them green, red, orange, yellow, blue, purple to match your new Nano!

RiceBandit

WTF is the god damn microphone for if it doesn't work with the fucking iPhone. Damn you Apple. If you hadn't enticed me with your skittley good Nano's I'd be screaming out the window right now.

You seriously need to make this work with the iPhone. At least the 3G. The earbuds you pack in make my ear canal hurt after about 20 minutes and these looked like they would be all buttery goodness at first glance. Then I realized that butter was laced with metal shavings.

GRRRRRR

BigPanda

Whyyyy Apple, why? Why do you tease me with your microphone-volume-control-laden-earphony goodness only to crush my dreams by making them incompatible with my 3G iPhone? This is just massive, utter, epic fail.

sunnybunny320

Yeah we will see how good these are. Nothing from Apple has amazing sound quality so I don't have much hope in these. Also making dual driver headphones that cheap smells fishy to me.

nitromic

WTF? Not iPhone compatible????? ARRRRGGHHH

narcolepticdoc

"Cable length: 1065 mm from audio jack to splitter; 330 mm to earpiece"

WTFS is this??? Stupid Apple did it again! They didn't make it exactly how I wanted it!!! It should be exactly 1100mm from audio jack to splitter!!! And there should be three drivers, DUH!!! Actually, they should be BlueTooth!!! With 123146 hours of playback!!! And mind control!!! In flesh colors!!! With spinners!!!

haha Just breaking the repetitious comments.

DurfDiggler

They will work with iPhones. The device end plug is the same as my 3G headphones.

CEOself

Solution to the rob-me-headphone white, dont be a complete sheep.

smeee

I bet that these will work fine with iPhones once the 2.1 firmware is released. Suddenly we'll all end up with controls.

winter_in_asia

A tip for anyone that buys these: Check out the memory foam ear tips from Compyfoam.com - I have some for my Triple.Fi's and used to use them on my Zune Premium headphones when I had those...much better seal and MUCH more comfort vs. any OEM tip (Actually..they are OEM for Westone).

RedwoodFlyer

I can haz headphones that work with the iphone regardless of the product page?

Renegade05

@RedwoodFlyer: That's something interesting you say here. The Nose looks more like the ones UE uses. Maybe Apple takes Advantage of some kind of dual-bore-system like UE.

As for the Complys, it's a good tip, though I'm no fan of them.
IMO, they make most IEMs sound mushy.
The TF10pro are an honorable exception, though.
Your lucky that they fit well in your ears.
I couldn't get the left one to stay in place.

mangochutney

Dual drivers? Then they must be a close comparison to the audio quality of Shure's, Ultimate Ears, or Etymotics; you know, the same way a Pinto is really close in comparison to a Bentley, because they both have 4 wheels and an engine.

WiZZLa

@lunasdude: you're an idiot. do you seriously expect all the NY'ers, who probably do more walking on the streets than in any other large city in the US, are fearful for their lives when listening to their ipods.

they're more worried about getting hit by a cab they can't hear coming, than they are about the color of their earbuds

jcy

Forgive all the parenthetical comments, sometimes happens when you construct the paragraph non-linearly.

andyo

@matt buchanan: None of the E4 earphones (they're all the same, diff. colors/cords/etc.) are dual-drivers (unless you mean dual as in one for each ear). They have a single driver with "Tune Port" (for whatever that's worth). From that generation, only the very expensive E5 was dual-driver (which was pretty much one of the pioneers). Now the SE420, at a similar price point that the E4 had, does offer dual drivers, and the next below, the SE310 offers the Tune Port thingy.

andyo

@jcy: Yea you may be right i may be an idiot but i would rather be a live idiot than one who get jacked for his stupid white headphones or for flashing a lot of cash, credit cards etc.
just a little precaution does not make you an idot but if it does then - DURR!

lunasdude

That is really upsetting, I'd love these, but there's no way I'm giving up my iPhone.

pzich

SiliconE. With an "E".

Geesh, people. Is it really that hard to keep it straight?

SiliCON is the hard, brittle stuff that computer chips are made out of.

SiliCONE is the soft, rubbery stuff.

sremick

i still don't know what would make more of a difference, listening to lossy (ie mp3) tracks with a good set of headphones, or having lossless tracks on my mp3 player, but listening to them with standard headphones (i assume the latter, but am not too sure)
obviously a combination of the two would be better still, but just wondered really.

mr_bigglesworth

@mr_bigglesworth:
With most good earphones, the likes of UE TF10pro, Shure SE420, Westone UM2 (just to name the better universal ones) you won't stand listening to low quality mp3/aac/ogg-files.
You can here every error and more easily pinpoint the things that were cut out.

As far as universal IEMs go, the Triple.Fi 10pro are the most revealing.
A bad recording can turn out to be unbearable, as well as low-bitrate audio.
But if you have good quality mp3s/FLAC/ALAC/... you'll love them, because those little buggers show you the music like it was intended to sound.

mangochutney