@the_sidewinder:

I'm a bit confused...what is "THIS"?

I didn't want to look like a spammer by putting up the artist's name or website, but they're called Junior Boys if you're interested.

jorvay

Heh, if you can't produce decent music just bitch at everyone and blame piracy.

That's got to be the reason why people don't want to buy metallica's shitty new albums. Not because they suck! Because of pirates! Damn you pirates!

wiregr

NIN are worse :P

Maracas9

Wow. What's with all the Metallica hate, lately?

aaj111

Your headline on this made my day, seriously, thank you so much.

jiffy

The people who like the black album were not fans of them in the 80's. Either that or they still have a mullet. Period.

phijef

were they ever able to afford the gold plated shark tank bar?

moose_knuckle

Sigh, where have all the good bands gone woooooo?

St Anger was shit, and i've heard the songs on their upcoming album, still just as shit.

Just quit and fucking go home, you've alienated your fans and your music is shit now. Should've retired/kicked the bucket/cocaine overdose a few years ago and save yourselves the trouble of going downhill slowly.

Fused7

@jorvay: THIS

Seriously. Plus, what's the guy's performing/band name?

the_sidewinder

@cloudnine: kaiser looks like this guy (karl malden):

[i2.photobucket.com]

would anyone date this man? i'd rather he fuck a broken bottle too.

lldsandsll

@OMG! Apple Stinks!: Dammit. See, that's what happens when you try to get some work done. Somebody else throws out your circa '98 internet reference and you just wind up looking like a some comedy bit stealing jerk.

I'm going over to Io9. I've got this video of a fat kid with a curtain rod that will just kill.

dry-roasted-peanuts

@nutbastard: Blogging is all about ambiance too, setting a tone and a mood... of disemvoweling people and replying to their comments.

OMG! Apple Stinks!

@ Unknown2U: While this is true, the music industry's handling of the situation was crap. It was clear that people weren't willing to pay the prices they were asking for the material they offered. With regular material things, this means that the product would not sell, and no one would have one, the company would have to either lower the price to stimulate demand, add free extras, improve the quality of the product, or all of these. With music recordings, which are immaterial, people could still acquire the product, without paying, though the solution to the problem would still be the same, lower costs, add extras that can't be had on line. They could have also looked at partnering with Napster to sell music online, per say through a subscription fee, and merchandise. Instead, they sued and shut down Napster, sued the fan base, which (based on studies done by the CRIA, the Canadian RIAA) even though they were pirating the music, they were also buying more music, and adding to the music industry's coffers, and at a time where music sales were on a decline.

At what did this get them? Alienated fans, a few companies that now offer online music downloads, usually filled with DRM that ignores the fact that piraters are unhindered by DRM that is not on the music that they are trading, and only hurts legit users, so they can't use the music within Fair Use. Then there is the one large one music store called iTunes, whose owning company has the music industry's balls in a vice when it comes to pricing(to our benefit), and artists are not getting the same amount of money relative to the sale as they did with CDs. So it would seem that everyone is loosing now because the music industry paniced and did not have the forsight to see how their actions would hurt them, all because they didn't act like a normal industry would to declining sales.

Capitalism is ruled by supply and demand, not copyright infringment litigation

the_sidewinder

@nutbastard:

mmmmmmmm, undercooked meat AND sauerkraut. sounds like a typical lunch at chez godwhacker

godwhacker

@MagnoliaBoy:

i know, gross right?

nutbastard

maybe if they support p2p i still would like them
but their albums from a certain year are too soft to be qualified as metal
and they are big friends with RIAA
so Metallica go to where you belong and don't bother us anymore with crap

TBM-Fan

@cloudnine: I'd rather fuck a broken bottle.

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

I dunno. I like Load....ReLoad was meh. The Black album, And Justice For All, and Ride the Lightning were great, too. And I think the current tracks I'm hearing from the new album sound pretty good - there's definitely elements of their older stuff. Oh yeah, and S&M was awesome as well.

Too many haters, listen to what you want to listen to. As for selling out...well, duh, that's the point of music, 'tards. To get rich and get laid. Anyone who says different is just kidding themselves and trying to justify why they suck and can't get any success. Pssssh.

edmicman

@nutbastard: Ewwww, Sauerkraut!!!

MagnoliaBoy

@lldsandsll, @Kaiser-Machead on the Edge:

watching you two go after each other is SOOOOO adorable! You two should totally go out on a date... it would be the cutest thing EVAR!

cloudnine

@cygnusx8:

that's skulls with a K, FYI. And so what? Metal is all about ambiance, setting a tone and a mood... of disemboweling people and eating their organs. Raw. With sauerkraut.

nutbastard

@Unknown2U:

The problem was that they were a bunch of hypocrites about it. They made it big thanks to the mix-tape scene, then came down hard on the mp3 scene.

Frankly, the record industry is out-of-date and out of touch. I have a neighbour who writes/performs music. Tours a lot, and has had some music on some major television shows as well. He has a laptop, some keyboards, a nice mic, a few guitars, and a living room. He hires a promoter on contract. He hires a tour manager on contract when he needs it. He retains all the rights to his music and has taken advantage of the illegal distribution of his music to sell out shows around the world. Sure he doesn't sell as many records, but he gets a mugh larger cut per record, and he makes a good bundle playing live.
The best part, he writes and performs music that no record company would sign because it was too far from the mainstream, but as an indie in the age of the mp3, he has been able to make a healhty career out of it.

So how about it? A business model that adapts to the market instead of a business model that tries to force the market not to change.

jorvay

@OMG! Apple Stinks!: yes, i remember now. money sure is good...think of all the money i save using p2p.

lldsandsll

F*ck Metallica.

Seinosuke

@nutbastard: AMEN TO THAT NUTBASTARD. Use to love-em. Now, I have my back to them with my middle finger high in the air! DAMN YOU LARS!!!!!

shaithis

@Unknown2U: When you sell out your fans and cut your hair to go Pop and please Record Execs with movie soundtracks, you have a problem. Metallica = Sellouts

(accept Lars, he's still cool)

MagnoliaBoy

I was a on the road crew for Metallica's tour in 2000 ; I can personally say I have never worked for a bigger bunch of douchebags in my life.

LA_Longhorn

@Kaiser-Machead on the Edge: don't flatter yourself, and in the event that you aren't, leave me out of your sick fantasies. you're one fugly human being, but i'm sure you already knew that.

lldsandsll

Just another one of my teenage hero's turning there back on me. Cliff Burton must be spinning in his grave. The day that Metallica went all corporate on me is the day I cut off my long hair.....DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU LARS!!!! YOU STOLE MY CHILDHOOD!

shaithis

Can it get any more redundant? Out of 1000 metal albums 900 have a scull(s) on the cover in one shape or another. We get it already, you're dark and you kill people and save their sculls. I guess it would be more intimidating if your band's name didn't sound like a nail polish color from Hot Topic.

cygnusx8

@lldsandsll: Twas I good sir. And Napster still BAD! Money still GOOD!

OMG! Apple Stinks!

@Unknown2U: You're living in the 21st century homeboy.

RoboChop

@dry-roasted-peanuts: Tinnitus BAD!! Money GOOD!!

OMG! Apple Stinks!

I think that anyone who says that Metallica is a bunch of dicks because they were mad about people downloading their stuff, should also be mad at Dr. Dre. He was a part of the whole thing as well. The cartoon video was wrong, it was not "Untill it Sleeps", the song that started it was "I Disappear". Now, the reason why they were mad is because the version that had be downloaded was not the complete and final version. That is what started the whole mess. It was stolen or leaked from the studio, before it had been mastered. Their argument was that it wasn't what the artist (them) had wanted the released version to sound like. Also, who on this board works for free?

jaredluse

@dorylomorphs:

it's not an album. it's headphones. RTFA maybe?

nutbastard

@lldsandsll: This isn't an M4M site, so move along junior.

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

We just lost the whole Metallica demographic, I'm afraid.

scarbrtj

@Unknown2U:

There's two kinds of people who hate metallica:

1. People who used to like metallica

2. Everyone else in the world.

nutbastard

The sad thing is when this album eats a dick and doesn't sell 1000million copies, they will blame it on piracy.

dorylomorphs

@nutbastard: I believe Butthead wore the AC *lightning bolt* DC t-shirt, so I guess we're stuck.

Also, LOL@Metallicats. Brilliant.

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

ass holes
they are so assholes, but the design is cool

anyway, i only use earbuds...

AndersonBMX

I don't see what the problem with Metallica is. Everyone deserves to be compensated for their work. Theft is wrong.

Where am I living where this wouldn't be true?

Unknown2U

i still find the 'metallicats' picture to be hilarious though.

nutbastard

The title of this thread is very appropriate.

RE-L

@dry-roasted-peanuts: yes, that was posted this morning as well. it was in regards to napster. did u do that?

lldsandsll

Attention Metal Fans of Gizmodo.

You NEED Spawn of Possession's album Noctambulant. That is all.

nutbastard

Frucci: ahahahahahahaha I can't heheheheheeh stop hahahahaahh hehehehe laugh heh he laughing.

Brilliant good sir. Perfect headline.

zenpoet

@Kaiser-Machead on the Edge: ouch, sounds like u got a monkey on ur back

lldsandsll

Ahhh, Metallica dickery. Anyone remember this?

+ Watch video

Some days I do miss the glory days of MP3s where you would spend hours hunting through ratio FTP sites just for that one damn obscure song only to find out that that the file was actually a crappy RAM file that some jerk had just renamed to MP3.

Good times...

dry-roasted-peanuts

before reading the headline all i saw was the logo and I thought that it was like a new badass version of firefox. Sadly I instantly wanted it. Untill I read it was headphones... metalica headphones

lazerpenguin

@Kaiser-Machead on the Edge:

so we're down to AC/DC, Megadeth, and ...?

nutbastard

@Amsterdaam:

Yeah i can't believe he said 'right the lightning'. i hope thats a joke...

nutbastard

One less t-shirt for Beavis to alternate.

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

@nutbastard:

Truest. Comment. EVAR!

Drummer_Boy

Right the lightning, bro!

Ride = Right

Amsterdaam

I've taken to referring to them exclusively as, "Metallicunt".

nutbastard

@Kaiser-Machead on the Edge: *steal*

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

@GadgetGhurl:

it's poor form to just barf the internet all over a thread.

nutbastard

But if I steel them, what's worse than being humiliated if I get caught trying to steal them, is if I got caught stealing shitty headphones.

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

...or before the Black Album, anyways.

Never has there been a more aptly named album than "Load". Because that's what it was - a big, loafy, load.

nutbastard

ROFFPNMFPLMFAO

GadgetGhurl

This is a very good product and obviously made for the loyal fans of Metallica. No one wants to be caught listening to Metallica because you probably will get the hate from people, not to mention they will see you as a loser for sticking with them after the mass effect they had on the internet-related lawsuits.

While everyone deserves ti get paid for their stuff, suing a granny or a little kid for $10,000 a song isn't how you make people understand your point. Besides, they haven't had a good song in almost 20 years.

VakeroRokero

@zenpoet: I agree. Best headline ever!

FredicvsMaximvs

Too true! Metallica forgot their roots and who their fans were. While I can't say I totally blame them for their myopic view regarding music downloads, I think the way they went about it was absolutely asinine and they ended up coming across as such dicks.

Meursault

@nutbastard: I prefer some fava beans and a big Amarone myself.

Ubik2501

@dry-roasted-peanuts: I hear they having dancing hamsters fighting Dancing Jesus.

OMG! Apple Stinks!

What a bunch of douchebags Metallica is. How dare they expect people to pay for music. How dare they get pissed off at thieves ripping them off.

I have tickets to see Metallica in a few months... Metallica ROCKS!!! Or at least I hope they still do. I've never heard their new album.

Rabid Penguin

People... Metalliwhat? Just forget them and it's cool.

rospaya

@jorvay:

he's new to the internet, doesn't know that flipping off the monitor doesn't actually transmit

nutbastard

Ummm...Metallica Who?

Benf13

@monkeybars:

Yeah they are really uncomfortable. But the skull design is cool.

kalashnikov

@monkeybars:
I have no idea what your talking about but every set of skullcandy headphones have been fantastic. I've only had one pair break on me but that was my own stupidity. I dropped my ipod and the pulled the wires right out of the left side. took them with me to get new ones (at a skullcandy booth in the mall) and they took the old ones and gave me new ones at no charge.

Skullcandy rocks. That aside, I still have a hard time believing that they would team up with such douches and brand headphones for them.

phate

Skullcandy's are such garbage.

monkeybars

@jorvay: It means I agree with what you said wholeheartedly

the_sidewinder

@nutbastard: Beavis could always wear his "Death Rock" shirt...the one used in non-MTV materials, such as the books and whatnot.

Chromeo

I had a chance to listen to the album. Lars still sounds like he picked up drum sticks for the first time yesterday.

Has there ever been a drummer who has degredaded in skill throughout the years?

Apparently, there is still only one answer.

diabolusunknownTheSecond

@nutbastard: Dude, the new album is way better than Black Album.

Some of you may be trashing it, but like it or not, it is A) Fast, B) has guitar solos. St Anger had neither and they hadn't displayed A in 20 years.

b33rl0rd

This new album is better (now that the snare is tightened and there's a few god damned solos). Not awesome, just C+, which is a hell of a lot better than I was expecting.

It's almost like they didn't die in that plane crash after Master of Puppets.

Human Bomb Committed Solaricide

I still love Metallica. That's all I'm going to say.

singlecoilpickup

@nutbastard: Or perhaps Sons of Poseidon? A similarly named band, but just as metal.

Human Bomb Committed Solaricide

@nutbastard (or anyone else that thinks music should be free): would you explain why music should be free. I made a decision a few years back that if I like a band's music I want to pay them for it and don't want to give it away either. Before I buy music I listen to it and decide if I want to pay for it. If I don't want to pay for it, I don't listen to it.

I don't understand this debate. Someone please enlighten me. I really want to know if there is something I am missing.

Siouxperman

double dog fuck those a$$holes...

bflorin

*booo hooo* I hate Metallica *whine* *whimper* they expect me to pay for stuff and not steal it *sniffle*

It's you guys who are the douche bags. If you want something get a job.

Rabid Penguin

Screw Metallica, I want Dethklok stuff. Everything is brutal.

strife1012

For as great as their new album is I still hate Metallica. They are never getting a dime from me because they side with the RIAA.

nitromic

@Siouxperman: Some would argue that a recording should be just another form of promotion. Touring is where you make your money. If you suck live, you don't make money. This holds ground in the traditional music industry where record labels make money on albums, but artists make shit on them.

I'm not saying that should be the way things go. I too think there's a way to reward ARTISTS for their work without so much money going to record labels. Doesn't anyone else remember how little variety in music there was in the 90s before the internet provided a cheap distribution model for indie artists?

If you research the origins of copyright and/or patent law, you learn very quickly how poorly modern implementations of these laws reflect their intent for the good of the art community. CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) has a good discussion on this if you have an hour to kill: [www.cbc.ca]

I'm not trying to spam here, just providing some food for thought.

jorvay

Every Metallica album from the 80's was, of course, killer. The new album is the best stuff they've produced in 17 years. Sad But True.

Also, they seem to have learned their lesson w/ the whole P2P thing. The latest album was leaked online about a week before its retail release. When asked about it Lars was non-chalant, saying he was happy that it happened only a week ahead of schedule.

For those of you who were big fans of 80's Metallica, you'll be happy to know they are planning to play the entire M of P album during their shows this tour.

Jackhole

@b33rl0rd: Indeed. It is worth the five minutes spent downloading it from The Pirate's Bay. Not that I would know anything about that.

OMG! Apple Stinks!

best heading EVER!

ruindpzzle

Adam, Gizmodo:

I love you.

strider_mt2k

Best Article Title of the Month! (so far)

ZukeZuke

@Siouxperman:

Why should music be free? Well… duh!!!

There are many reasons why music should be free. I mean, aside from the obvious, like since movies, TVs, cars, computers, and English muffins are free, music should be free too. See, unlike those other things, it costs absolutely nothing to record, mix, master, and distribute music. So since every amazing album that's ever been made has cost nothing at all to produce, why should anyone pay for them?

Also, musical instruments and recording gear is free. Spending years of your life getting good at music is free. Studio time is free. Studio musicians play for free, and audio engineers work for free. Actually, all this works out pretty well since musicians don't have any bills of their own. Everything they would ever need to buy turns out to be free too!

More importantly, however, is that music should be free so that there isn't any monetary incentive for talented new artists to devote themselves to creating amazing new albums. Taking away the ability of musicians to profit from their work, or even break even from investing every shred of their time, energy, resources, and life creating recorded music spares the rest of us from having to listen to it. With less incentive, there's less material, which means less new good stuff, which is always a good thing.

Of course, there are always going to be those musicians who do what computer scientists, doctors, and just about everyone else who's spent years and years perfecting their craft does to maintain an income… they sell T-shirts. And while there are those musicians who still make money from performing shows, perhaps if we put our minds together, we can figure out a way to make those free as well!

In the Medieval period, I believe musicians were also required to juggle. Perhaps not paying musicians might encourage more to juggle, which would be sweet.

Actually, the more I think of it, not only should music be free, but musicians should have to pay to produce it. I mean, even more than they already do!

Anywho, anyone check out those new nanos?! All those tasty new colors… which to buy... which to buy? Hmmmm….. I just may have to buy one in each color!

frigg

The only thing good I can find in Metallica anymore is the fact Pushead is still putting out amazing pieces of artwork for them.

Spaztrick

Everyone hates metallica because thats the cool thing to do right now. Actually they encourage people to download their new album for free. I personally like the older stuff more than the new stuff, but still people and times change, I mean come on who has long metal hair anyways? But go ahead people, go with the mob mentality and hate away.

notwhoyouthink

hahahahah couldn't agree more with the post

mpar

hahaha the comments are the beasts lol

killermicrobe

@the_sidewinder:

Jesus Sidewinder, that was a very well-put and articulate essay.

Seriously, I enjoyed it.

I think Metallica's PR problem was they ACTED like dicks instead of coming to with "yeah, this is a problem & a change in our industry and we want to help solve it so it serves everybody."

Bruhaha

Is anyone else in love with the name Lars? Seriously, if a hot guy was named Lars, I would totally...hit that.

But yeah, Metallica is okay, the last album sucked monkeyballs, hope the new one is not so full of monkeyball suckage.

KarinDiscoGirl

Seriously, get over it. Metallica is better than fucking Radiohead which everyone seems to go gaga over because of their internet downloads, yet their music still sucks.

I though Gizmodo was a gadget site. If I want asinine opinions I can go to Digg. Why don't you stick more to gadgets and less to idiotic opinions. Maybe spend a little more time looking for new gadgets to write about before Engadget gets there first. Crap, I saw these on Amazon a couple of week ago.

Oh, and the new album rocks.

joejance

@frigg: I get it now. Because of your insight, I am going to ask my company to stop paying me. I look forward to comments from others that think music should be free. :-)

Siouxperman

I was going to get these headphones the other day... but then I saw the Metallica logo on them and decided against it.

Good move Skullcandy.

ttech10

Perfect title.

Crowbot

Wow, I can't get over the amount of hate here. You do know that it's JUST music.

I'm a huge fan of their music, and I don't care if they are a bunch of hypocritical douche bags. It just doesn't matter. If you like the music, listen to it.

It's not the end of the world if someone you don't know, never met and never will, "sells out", so stop crying about it.

Hell, if Nickelback came out with a good song, I'd listen to it. They won't, but I'm just saying.

photophile

@photophile: nickleback did come out with a good song (if you're into whining shit), it was their first one. Then they just remade a coupla hundred times;)

j/k... they suck monkeyballs too.

Blakamin

Metallisux are fine... until lars starts drumming and hetfield starts singing... and hammett...
I actually listened to the new album at a friends. He was saying "wait for it" and then the vocals started and we pissed ourselves laughing. It sounds like bob rock is still around!
And no, I'm not going to put any of their names in caps coz they suck!

Blakamin

@photophile:

metallica : p2p sharing
as
airplanes : twin towers

game over, man, game over.

jovien

@frigg: +1,000,000,000 and an AMEN, bro.

I just can't fathom the logic that I should actually have to PAY for something that someone else took the time to create. I mean, seriously. What kind of backwards communist logic is that?

/sarcasm

Incidentally, Metallica rank among the pantheon of great rock pioneers regardless of what the current popular opinion is. And if Skullcandy thinks they can move a few more sets of headphones by branding them with some Metallica art, more power to 'em.

Saint_Imrahil

sigh, I was just talking about this earlier with a co-worker. The intro to the song Master of Puppets is probably one of the best metal intros IMO, back when Metallica weren't choads.

Duc

@Siouxperman:

Who said I thought music should be free??

My argument is one of exposure - if a song plays on the radio, and i could have conceivably recorded it, then i should be privy to a recording of that song. If you purchased an LP in 1978, you should be able to download mp3s of that music. that's my argument.

nutbastard