I dont get it. What has this test done compared to the other one later on this year? Why have we not died yet.

DarkHavoc99

"Later on this year". . . good, that will give me enough time, ahem, and space to take the Virgin Galactic Space Shuttle to the moon and watch from there!

**grabs lawn chair, sunglasses and pretzels**

hindsight2020

@Inepsa: I like to think jimbut just meant that his posting was the first after the world's end. Semantically speaking, this would make him no firster, but then again, I don't really care.

hanswurst0815

This is an honester to God question.

"Do you really give a sh*t?"

The very fact you're mentioning it gives the guy credit for posting that. Don't you understand? It's like calling black people Afro-Americans. That's the most retarded thing in the world. White people can be born in Africa and move to America-yet we don't call them Afro-Americans politically.

Stop mentioning the fact of it, you're giving it publicity, (aka what you don't want to give).

Damn right I told you... off.

acekrn

it looks like TRON. Is the universe TRON?

nystreetfilms

Wonder if God's equation will be solved if they find the Higgs Boson particle.

Anyhoo, I'm gonna go out and eat a burger to celebrate that we didn't die in a horrible cataclysmic event.

Visp3r

This is an honest to god question.

Why do people say first post?

Do they actually think that everyone else cares? Why the hell would I care that someone wrote first post, and why would they want to say that when we can clearly see that it was the first post.

Please tell me.

Inepsa

I should have known Jesus would ride in with his anti-hero black hat and save the day.

*Throws hand to his forehead and swooooons*

(Sorry, all these little hearts are throwing me off.)

92BuickLeSabre

@jimbut: You may be alive, but your giz account has been accelerated into a black hole.

Jesus Diaz

@Barcard: it's just their trails, they're actually perfect squares. Blue squares.

J. Nadeau

When did we stop banning Firsters around these here parts?

92BuickLeSabre

Why are they waiting until later this year?? Fire it up! Lets destroy some mass!!

JChristopher

Protons are rectangular?

Barcard

You mixed something up Jesus, this is just the new iTunes visualizer.

hanswurst0815

Nevertheless, the personel involved in the test cheered in ecstasy as the multi-billion dollar facility actually demonstrated that it was fully armed and operative

Inform Emperor Palpatine at once!

theCornerinvasion

Enough with the angst making!

Dracoster

And this image shows what exactly?

foxfire235

OMG, we're still alive.

phew!

ok, sooo
where is this macbook touch?
JOBS?

ONE MORE THING?

a day late would still be cool, right? right???

nosebleed

Explanation of the image please?

Nikuma

we're all still alive and kicking. FIRST POST

jimbut

I'm just happy that the *real* collision isn't until October. Now I get to see "Burn After Reading" on Saturday after all...LOL. There should be an international rule about prohibiting potentially catastrophic events occurring near or around any Coen Brothers movie release.

kaffeen

can I undunk and uncover now?

fernando_maciel

This is amazing. Lets get some collisions already.

dorylomorphs

@DustyButt: Thank you so much for that. *hats off*

bobojuice

@DarkHavoc99:

Because if you throw two eggs at each other you don't make an omlette. If you fire two proton beams at each other, the protons will create smaller particles, not rips in the space time continuum.

feckineejit

Wait a minute... wait a minute... These readings aren't right...

Send a low-energy pulse through the Atlas system... and make it short, it shouldn't overload the emitters. Adapt those pulse-compression routines and apply them to the power conduits to avoid EM phase rebounding.

Shit! There's been a problem!

Shutting down noncritical systems... Reducing power to the particle emitters!

E-P-S power levels rising... Emitter circuits one hundred-seventy percent over standard...

Dumping power into the back-up grid!

Particle accelerators operating normally... I've got the surge pulse now synchronized... But the emitters are out of phase and radiating at three hundred-twenty percent over standard!

You arrogant ass! You've killed us all!

*** SILENCE ***

It's gonna to play out like a bad Star Trek episode.
Can you tell I really don't feel like doing any work today?

DustyButt

My large hardon collider saw action about four hours before this one. The images weren't as colorful though.

Slartibartfast

If we find the answer to the ultimate question of life the universe and everything, a new more confusing universe will take its place, some say this may already have happened.

feckineejit

@N@tedog:

o.o

-walk to your front door

-open the door

-walk outside

-breath

thats better :)

Jon B.

@Inepsa:
"This is an honest to god question.
Why do people say first post?"

This is the very kind of question the LHC will likely answer later in the year. I can already imagine scientists around the world cheering as the LHC smashes commenters who've posted "first" into each other at great speeds, with photographs of the collision yielding unprecedented insight.

frigg

commence drooledge.
BTW, google's front page is kickass for once

metaslugx

Are we really still here? Or are we the only universe that ws not destroyed by the start up? Think about it.

N@tedog

@nystreetfilms: hehe

mangamonster

And soon physicists will either start to cry as they realize how wrong they've been or they'll giggle like silly school girls as they are proven correct...

oh and Jesus, where'd you manage to find that image on the CERN?

saeder

@acekrn: Also, you do realize that your analogy made the same mistake it was intended to criticize, right?

Gann

@acekrn: So black people are like "first" posters? And white people born in africa are ??? That analogy was so flawed, rather than making your intended point it just let us all know you have a white pointy hat in your closet.

Gann

Looks like there was a hardon collision with the banhammer.

doh

strider_mt2k

Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle station.

Human Bomb Committed Solaricide

@Richard0Thomas:

Just seeing that makes me want to read Angels and Demons again. For anyone who hasn't, I highly recommend it. I actually liked it better than The DaVinci Code. Looks like the movie is filming now for release May of '09. I wonder if they do much on-location shots at CERN.

fsusmithc2

@Nikuma: The image represents the detector area itself, where the wire frame images are the detectors and the blue bars represent both the location of detected particles that come out of the collision and their energy (represented by the bars length). Knowing the energy of the outputted particles tells us what kind of particle it was.

PhysicsMan

Where's the "Kaboom?"
There was SUPPOSED to be an Earth-shattering "Kaboom!"
- Marvin the Martian

hakubak

So far, that's like a 7 billion dollar graphic. Let's hope the unit cost comes down a bit.

zanella

@GadgetPlay: I also hate hyphenating "American", but the analogy was at best flawed and hypocritical, at worst flawed, hypocritical and incredibly racist.

That being said, there is no Higgs-Boson. The properties they are looking for are properties of space-time itself, not some magical particle that all the other colliders haven't found yet. Trying to smash matter and find out where it's mass comes from is like popping a water balloon and analyzing the shreds of rubber to see where it got it's weight.

Gann

@hanswurst0815:

That's what I did to make it. : )

MyPetFly

@MyPetFly: I just hit print screen and mirrowed the image. That's how lazy I am.

hanswurst0815

MyPetFly

Do we know the date of "later this year?"

Wandel

@Gann: "So black people are like "first" posters?"

I don't think that's what was meant, although it was incredibly badly stated. I THINK that the meaning was that such terms draw attention to our differences, rather than our similarities. I prefer to think of us as Americans without the hyphenated Balkanization. What that has to do with "First" posters," I have no idea. Except maybe that we should ignore them. After banning them. Yeah, that's the ticket!

There is undoubtedly a "pointy hat" in his closet, but it has "DUNCE" written on it. The white robe is for singing in the choir, not for burning religious symbols in yards. Maybe. I think.

GadgetPlay

Intercom 1: "Power to stage 1 emitters in 3,2,1. I'm seeing predictable phase arrays."
Intercom 1: "Stage 2 emitters activating...now."
Intercom 2: "Gordon, we cannot predict how long the system can operate at this level, nor how long the readings will take. Please, work as quickly as you can."
Intercom 1: "Overhead capacitors to one oh five percent. Uh, it's probably not a problem, probably, but I'm showing a small discrepancy in... well, no, it's well within acceptable bounds again. Sustaining sequence."
Intercom 2: "I've just been informed that the sample is ready, Gordon. It should be coming up to you any moment now. Look to the delivery system for your specimen."
Intercom 1: "Oh dear!"
Intercom 2: "Gordon, get away from the-"
Intercom 1: "Shutting down-no, attempted shutdown. It's not-it's not, it's not shutting down!"

IndyJaws

@J. Nadeau: @Barcard: Only the 8-bit ones are... They're hoping to upgrade to 16-bit protons by the end of the year.

AmishJohn

There is a leaked video on You Tube from CERN (LHC Black hole simulation Large Hadron Collider CERN) there is more to this than meets the eye, the black hole is not the concern, it is the revelation that may shatter our perception of reality.

The link is on [godparticle.net] which has insight into the revelation. Do you really think they would spend 6 billion dollars just to find a particle? The truth is related to energy, the ability to turn mass on and off, and the revelation.

+ Watch video

Richard0Thomas

@Inepsa: I just read your post. Sorry to the thread.

D.E.P.C.

@jimbut: Can you explain to me the appeal of doing that? I'm serious. Is it to be annoying and to know that you're being annoying? Is that a thrill? Do you feel special for pounding on your keyboard and clicking on your mouse a few times before anyone else has? I honestly don't get it. Are you really old and are trying desperately to act young, however think that means you have to act disabled? Explain this to me. Really. No sarcasm.

D.E.P.C.

@fsusmithc2: Hopefully Mr. Hanks isn't the main character again...

D-Rock78

My guess is that the picture is a simulated result from the CMS detector. The different resulting particles from the collision penetrate to different depths of the detector. So one particle would pass through the Lead part of the detector, but not the liquid water part, etc etc..

Log1c

pew!^42,037

hakubak

@fsusmithc2:

it was good, but i dunno if its "recommendable" good...

nutbastard

Awesome graphic. I didn't realize they had a grenade launcher on that thing. Sweet.

Phenostar

Makes me want to play Rez.

J4ck 0f h34rt5

So does this mean that the collision that's supposed to create the earth-destroying black hole hasn't been done yet? Too soon to relax?

bandit

The image of the collision needs to be composed of LEGOs. And have thom yorke singing out the side of it.

@Gann: I have a feeling that there won't be a higgs-boson particle found either, but finding evidence for string theory is way, way more enticing.

But, just to play devil's advocate, I would consider something that "just is" with no further explanation to be equally troubling as a god-particle. Something makes space-time "tick" and it's not the Force.

lpranal

i knew the universe wasn't destroyed when my alarm still went off this morning (damn!).

"So there are an infinite number of paralell universes?"
"No, just the 2."

next up will be the xLHC for the Xtreme! Large Hadron Collider. It will be built along the entire equator, and it will operate at temperatues of nealry 10 below... absolute zero.

tegronin

@RG_Shrike: No, that would mean admitting they were wrong, something real scientists would never do.

/sarcasm

AmishJohn

@bandit:
They haven't crossed the streams yet. We don't get total protonic reversal until they do.

Vulcaex

Hope the morons who started the lawsuits realize how stupid the really are.

RG_Shrike

Apple sues CERN over resemblance of 'god particle' to the apple logo.
higgs boson discovered to be at the core of iTunes and origin of the click-wheel.

tegronin

Found an extremely interesting post on somethingawful by one of the experimental particle physicists working on the LHC.

[forums.somethingawful.com]

there's also an image of the emergency shut off switch in case of strangelets/black holes...

[void.printf.net]

LOL

bobojuice

► OK DORKS & GEEKS!...

Your "last-chance-for-sex" line won't work anymore...

Now you will have to wait the "next generation" supercolider to get laid.
That's one frikking long wait....

aec007

@Human Bomb Committed Solaricide: Dammit! I didn't read down far enough...

CmdrHunt

@theCornerinvasion: Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!

CmdrHunt

the lhc is just a big waste of money and time. we could have solved world hunger, but we decided to make a peice of metal that produces visualizer images. Great job!

livinzlife

@Inepsa: So that awesome people like Jesus Diaz has accounts to toss into the black hole that these things make. (The black holes are tiny, but more then big enough for little accounts like those.)

:) Hope that helps. :P

And woooo!!! We're still alive! You owe me $100, Mr. Hawking. Pay up. And no checks, cash only.

ViperBorg

@livinzlife:
Well... it seems your ranting on this blog is completely out of place.

You see...
- First, this is a gadget blog. So you must've been reading it for your love toys. Toys you most likely can do without. So next time, use the money you spent on toys to stop world hunger.

-Second, you should notice that your rants on the web are possible by the billions of trillions of dollars spent in R&D since the begining of knowledge about electricity to today... (include all physics, chemistry and every other discipline you can think of)

- Third, we need power. What we learn today from the LHC most likely will give us the knowledge for future power sources (like fusion reactors), so in the future we do not run out of energy. Energy = Food. No energy... NO FOOD.

- Fourth, World Hunger IS NOT my fault. World Hunger is attributed to BAD GOVERNMENTS plain and simple.

And while I (and many others) have donated several times to world hunger causes, you are not going to make me feel bit guilty if some poor chap happens to live in Africa, in the middle of a desert run by poachers gans, or a military dictatorial government that doesn't give a crap about it's people, and he cannot feed his family...

We can't keep feeding people for free, you know?
We will all run out of food when we run out of energy.
The LHC is a good bet into the future of energy for the rest of us... the ones that keep feeding those that cannot feed themselves.

aec007

Do realise that the collision or the big experiment does not until after 21st Oct 2008.

See PashaLaw.blogspot .com for more

tvinstall

@buddyd:
Vacuum. The hole thing is chilled and vac'ed out.

aec007

One question how did they accelerate any protons in the tube without colliding with the protons of the air molecules in the tube? Sure the air molecules are all constantly moving but statistically you would think there would have been at least one collision in that 16.7 mile stretch of pipe.

buddyd

To be frank i dont think that much is likley to happen once the actual experament takes place. However as we all know History shows that Scientists thru their arrogance and quest for answers seem to forget the little details.

I beleive that we should move all scientists working on experaments such as this to the other side of the planet as to where the experament is taking place so they at the laeast have a few nano or mili seconds to contemplate their stupidity and possibly utter the words "Oh Crap"

I dont care how good your theory is the OOPS factor will allways prevail. I beleive that NASSA were warned that there was an 11% chance the O'Ring was going to fail. They were told that a peice of foam would not cause too much damage.

And for older examples, I beleive it was a german scientist that set off a mechanical/air high frequency whistle and prety much turned himself to a mound of jelly when it was fired.

So is a catastrophic event likley to happen, I dont think so!
But do we want to trust these guys laying with toys that could cause such an event. Definatly Not.

We Live, We Breed, We Eat, We Die... Simple... what more would you want? Oh, other than fast net :)

ShadowX

@aec007: It is near impossible to create a vacuum on earth and the cold temperatures only slow down the molecules of the air.

buddyd

this is the best pic

Joseph

@Joseph:
LOL!

DarkHavoc99

Meeeh! Now how do I explain fondling that random at 1028h Europe time. Damn.

DJTripleRRR

@foxfire235: The image shows the side effects of the beam being stopped right before (around 150m) CMS (one of the four experiments) in CMS itself. What you see in particular is the energy deposited in the hadronic calorimeter (one of the parts of the detector) by the "debris" particles that get produced when the LHC beam gets "dumped" against a tungsten(IIRC) stopper. This was actually the first picture which we managed to get this morning.

ktf

@ktf: Thank you. I read through 100 posts of drivel, and yours is the payoff.

Enochrewt

@Joseph:

thank god freeman is there, we at least have a chance now if something does go horribly wrong.

spider2544

FACT:

If they did get the proton spinning around as planned. It should have been going near the speed of light. Which means that the proton would have have made eleven thousand circulations around the LHC in just one second.

Yes, that is OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!

Jitty

Pew, pew!

I understand what they're doing and why, I just don't understand how it all works.

But as long as we can get cool, snazzy pictures like this one out of it, I'm all for it!

FritzLaurel

BEST.DESKTOP.EVAR

mattxcorePOP

@92BuickLeSabre: Yeah, wtf are those hearts there for?

Pablos102030

@acekrn: I was asking a question douche.

Inepsa

I hope it doesn't blend.

CapitalC