Blah... I think it's more like a v1.1. These should have been in the v1.0. A camera would have been nice. I can't justify buying it. Plus the Canadian pricing is $15 more than the exchange rate. So, I call poo poo on Apple. It's kind of an inert announcement. At least the Nano got an accelerometer. All they added to this was a speaker and volume control.

benjello

Awesome news for me, I've been considering getting an iPod Touch and now they're better and cheaper! I'm actually abandoning a Zune I got for free almost two years ago from my work (Christmas present). Not that it's a bad device, but compared to the features, games, apps and extensive support for docks, cases, etc. it's a worthwhile move.

Absent Blue

@worsethannormal: "And I can't believe that this kind of storage gives anyone enough room to store even a decent sub-set of their media."

Hahaha, what kind of people do you know with more than 32GB of media? Besides people that read Giz.

The average user has as many songs as they have purchased from iTunes. Filling a 32GB touch with songs from iTunes will set you back $8000. Us nerds who download the entire intarwebs are few and far between.

MikeSWelch

Im actually glad they didnt radically redesign the ipod touch otherwise mine would be totally obsolete. As it is, its not and stuff like a speaker or nike+ support doesnt really interest me. Don't you have to have nike+ shoes to use that feature anyways? Those shoes are ugly as hell, especially compared to my totally hot air zoom vapor v's.

snakepliskin

@Kaiser-Machead on the Edge: What a fox. Back in my day, I was cool. But then they changed what cool was, and now what is cool seems weird and scary to me.

Kirk Douglas

@MICHAELSD: read the review...i touched on this.

Adrian Covert

well tickle me pissed off, no more than 3 weeks ago I broke down and bought me an ipod touch...sonova bitch

Dreadfish

@worsethannormal:

Probably because Apple prefers rentals to purchases.

Would prefer music controls rather than volume, i think play/pause and track skip is more important than instant volume control.

Accordion

@speakerwizard: [gizmodo.com]

From Gimzodo:

"The iPhone and iPod touch are presumed to have the same screen quality. But they don't, according to some testing and reader feedback we did today. The iPod touch's screen turns black areas somewhat grayish, washed out shadow detail, with absolute blacks appearing shimmery. (The top image is the touch. Look at the girl's hair.) I was going to do some more testing tomorrow to verify with another iPod, but I just got an email from a reader complaining his touch's screen "Looks like a negative" in the dark areas. This is exactly what we're seeing."

I've seen the same thing with my friends' iPod Touchs compared to my iPhone and my iPhone 3G. The screen on iPhone and the iPhone 3G are much more vivid, brighter, sharper, crisper, and blacks are deeper and purer. It's really a huge difference when you compare them side-by-side.

I'm sure Apple improved the screen on the iPod Touch, but by how much?

MICHAELSD

So, again, Apple has failed to sell me an iPod. Where's the storage? 32GB? They have to be joking. I understand some people are happy with that, but I never know what I'll feel like listening to or watch. And I can't believe that this kind of storage gives anyone enough room to store even a decent sub-set of their media.

On the other side, this doesn't make sense for Apple. If they want to sell TV and movies through iTunes, why not give your customers the storage to carry a lot of that kind of media around with them? Seems like you'd sell more media files that way.

worsethannormal

@Kirk Douglas: I think you're just mad because your son had Catherine-Zeta Jones.

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

@MICHAELSD:

erm they are the same screen, not sure what your looking at

speakerwizard

where's the speaker on the thing i dont see it on the bottom like on the iphone

crazyindy

@attdude: 90% of the articles are apple related...oh, and because I want to.

Junginator

@daftrok: I mean Archos and Creative both do good stuff with their players, but they definitely don't put them to shame, and I personally don't think they're better.

Adrian Covert

@Junginator: why are you reading and commenting on this post then?

attdude

I don't understand how they can market such insignificant changes as a new product and have people eat them up like hotcakes. It's the same iPod that was sold before essentially, the changes are both superficial in design and include features most mp3 players have had for a long time.

Am I just cynical?

Kirk Douglas

Want one. When will it start showing up in stores?

GC

I would buy one today IF THE APPLE STORE HAD IT IN STOCK.

Guess I'll have to wait till tomorrow and get my employee discount at micro center. dang~

e-friend

Awesome. Great Review. Can't wait for Friday to update my white iPhone 3G.

Evangelion

Apple are great!

hu_hu_cool

FFS, y'll shld splt ff n "ppl Gzmd" fr ppl wh gv fck bt frt.

...h, h..Th ppl Tch sr s bg ss mp3 plyr.

Tht s ll.

Junginator

How does the screen on the new iPod Touch compare to the iPhone 3G and the first iPod Touch? The screen on the first iPod Touch looked like **** next to an iPhone, and especially the iPhone 3G.

MICHAELSD

The new Archos players and Creative player put the Nano and Touch to shame and this refresh doesn't change this fact.

daftrok

But is it as wonderfully crashtastic as the iPhone 3G?

Mandatory_Field

@Kirk Douglas: But she's got a new hat! :p

HeartBurnKid, creepy morbid freak

@Miranda Kali (Desperate But Not Serious):

You know it, 32GB not BAD, but 80!! that would rule to have a crap load of movies and music, especially if you travel a lot!!! I'm with ya! ;-)

Faslane66

@Absent Blue: I say hang on to that Zune and don't blow your wad on a new piece of hardware.

A new firmware update for ALL Zune users is coming soon... just wish it would get Mac support, but hey that's what I use Parallels for.

chasen54

@MikeSWelch:

I know alot of people that NEVER read Giz, not geeks persay either. But 32GB is mighty tasty if you travel alot especially for adding 30 or so movies to choose from and still have plenty of space for music as well.... the more the better I say, especially since there are apps out that allow you to store files on them as external drives ect. Do You Have GB's or something? Everyone i know gladly always welcomes more storage, especially in this digital age. seriously.

Faslane66

@Adrian Covert:

I second that! not bad, but certainly aren't going to sway an apple fan by any means, some are very nice I agree, I've almost purchased one a few times

Faslane66

@Kirk Douglas:

Not cynical, but for those who don't have an iPod touch these are welcome additions for sure.

Faslane66

Gimme all that plus at least 80 gigs, and I'm in love. Cash committing love, baby.

Miranda Kali (Desperate But Not Serious)

@MICHAELSD: I agree I am a video type of guy. I need more than 32gb more like 80 or 160 would make me feel comfortable. I mean I want every episode of like 6 TV shows plus every movie I have ever liked. 32GB = not enough.

jakeyjohn1

@Adrian Covert:
They have more functionality, more format support, better sound quality, more storage options and a more affordable price tag (and can play iTunes). So...yeah.

daftrok

I wish they would change the back from aluminum to what the new nano has, my touch looks like I took a chainsaw to the back of it.

gamecrazychris

*So I was wondering if we can get some kind of comparison.

MICHAELSD

@Adrian Covert: Thanks for replying, Adrian. I did read it, you only mentioned that it had the same yellow tint. No reviews really compared the iPod Touch to the iPhone when it came out and they all said that they had the same screens when they really didn't in person.

MICHAELSD

Holy Applefanboycoveredpageofgizmodo batman!

notwhoyouthink

I would love this if they put in a FM tuner. IT is small and has practically every feature the other guys do (excluding codec support although the touch is still pretty good in that area) except for a radio.

jakeyjohn1

why no info about the sound quality? for some of us (those of us who enjoy listening to music over playing inane spore promos) this is a fairly critical aspect, and is ultimately what is keeping me from buying this product. As long as apple continues to ignore this fact and chose style over substance, there will be those of us who will continue to shop in the "other" column...

510DustMite

@nightsky:

/slaps face

lol seriously? Everybody has one. You just dont see yours because you cant add yourself as a friend

Jon B.

Oh, it is the new friend thingy. Sorry for the outburst.

HOW COME I AIN'T GOT NO LITTLE STAR!

nightsky

Hey! How come I don't have a freakin little heart!? Am I not a man!?

nightsky

@wookiepeasent: Welcome minion,

Lesson 1: Call the iPod Touch by its proper name

-Lord Jobs

Jon B.

@Dreadfish: Um, you can return for a full refund within two weeks?

nightsky

OK Giz here is my story, i have always been a die hard Microsoft fan i have a PC i own A zune. But something happened one day, and i crumbled. I commited sin and i crumpled to the all mighty Jobbs. i am sorry to say but i have broken down and decided to buy an Itouch, the first piece of apple mind control i will own. I am sorry Bill. But you just cant match the awesomeness of the Itouch, apples single greates piece of machinery finely crafted bursting, secreating, amazing features, for a non kingly sum. There i got it out. The itouch. Dont get me wrong i will never abandon my beloved Quad Core Gateway with 8800 GT glorious graphics, and the zune really is an amazing little buddy better for music......but it cant match the wi-fi and the speaker, and the apps. and touchscreen. So there it is in all intirity.

with all due respect,

wookiepeasent

Tuesday, september ninth, two thousand and eight

wookiepeasent

My 2 cents.....(hit ENTER again on accident...again. haha)

mstolfe

i seriously cannot wait to get the money to replace my old one. im extatic about this new iPod touch. (sorry i hit ENTER on accident.)

mstolfe

you know something weird? where are the people who a week ago were practically shitting themselves because the new iPod touch MIGHT have volume controls, and speakers seemed unlikely? i mean my god, ill just do it myself:

OMG IT HAS SPEAKERS AND IT HAS VOLUME CONTROLS!!! and holy shit ive been waiting and waiting for iPhone headphones to come out for the iPod touch!

and lets not forget the years of people asking and asking for voice recording. Apple can never please people...(IMO)

mstolfe

Why isn't there any coverage on the major new feature: voice recording?

brutek

@daftrok: Are you kidding me? What a thing to say, since these are two different markets. Fanboys...I swear. Ragging on the zune is one thing, but saying that Archos and Creative are putting Apple to shame? Haha. Oh man... what a thing to say.

What a DUMB thing to say.

andthepickles

I was kinda hoping for a black anodized aluminum backing and bezel, like the 1st Gen Touch bezel.

krispykrink

Come on, guys. At this point, it's probably difficult to put more than 32GB in this form factor. To achieve that, the bulk would have to be increased. Then you would all be complaining about how thick the device is. I am sure that the Archos and the Creative players of the world are thicker than the iPod touch. I would love to have 32GB on my iPhone, and I look forward to that day. If you guys want more storage, go for the iPod Classic. Of course it would make some sense if Apple came out with an iPod touch with a hard drive option, but it would need to be much thicker, as it would need a bigger battery because of the greater battery drain caused by the hard drive and the touch screen. I'm sure that all of these higher capacity units will appear in due time (especially as solid state storage capacities increase and such technology becomes more affordable). Actually, there are tons of netbooks being sold with less storage capacity than the iPod touch; and these are much larger devices! The other thing that Apple needs to keep in check is price - a 64GB SSD is much more expensive than a 32GB SSD; therefore, if 64GB iPod touches were sold at a much higher price, there would be fewer people buying them, and Apple's overall profit would highly likely be detrimentally affected. I'm sure that Apple would love to put out a 128GB iPod touch - wouldn't that be awesome? - but that will take a while to offer such capacity in this form factor and at these prices! Of course, Apple could have and should have offered a camera, maybe GPS, and definitely A2DP. I'm not sure why it's holding off on A2dp. I know that the sound quality may not be as great as listening through wired headphones, and it will drain the battery, but people truly want it, so Apple should really offer it! I don't get it - but that's why Apple stock took a hit. Hopefully Steve Jobs and company will wake up. If not, then the stock should keep taking a hit until they do! Enough of this pompous attitude. Give the people what they want!!

vandy1997

@510DustMite: If sound quality is such a critical aspect of your purchase intention, you should not be considering ANY MP3 player.

Reason being that audio compression and headphone quality are the two biggest items that will affect perceived audio quality. There actually are only marginal differences between various well-known MP3 players' hardware. An MP3 player is by nature a compromise. It allows you to listen to gigabytes of music all without being tethered to your audiophile quality, $10,000 home stereo. It's like comparing a colorful EeePC with personality to a desktop graphics workstation powerhouse: one may offer you all the capabilities, performance and expansion options under the sun, but which is more appropriate for traveling and use at a picnic table on a nice day?

chonnes

Well the games alone thats coming should be enough. Did you see Philler crash and burn.... that was hilarious.

Ken_Darrow

@biscuit2001: Good points. I agree.. although some of the upgrades are still nice. At least they are better than the old iPod touch.

pardyhardy

@Kirk Douglas:

Because its cheaper, has more features, and looks nicer?
Because not everyone bought the previous ones, but were waiting for the 2nd, improved version (which Apple delivered)?

Nothing cynical about it. It sold like hotcakes before this change, it will sell like hotcakes after it. It's not like Apple ever keeps the old versions around anyways except in the refurb store.

dogcow

Vandy1997: Rehhhhrrrriittt!!! (That's frontier-speak for "I agree!")

Re-hashed iPod Touch is still missing:
- Higher storage (64 GB minimum if not 128 GB)
- Camera/Video recorder
- Capability to crossfade songs
- Capability to create playlists on device
- More like 2above that'd come w/FULL version of itunes
- GPS? Sure

Therefore, there's nothin' to see here folks --move along, move along...

biscuit2001

@wookiepeasent: "Dont get me wrong i will never abandon my beloved Quad Core Gateway with 8800 GT glorious graphics"

Do you want to bet you will? This is how we get you man....We first find our way into your mind with the lowest of the low....The iPods...The iPhones...And then, you realize just how sweet Apple shit is, and how much better it all works TOGETHER.....Once you get that iPod Touch, you will want to populate iCal with everything. And then, you will succeed. And then, you will wonder how awesome it would be if it synced to your calendar on your computer. And then, you will try syncing with Outlook Calendar, and realize how crappy it is, simultaneously understanding how much better the whole experience would be with iCal, and hence a Mac. And that's just once example. This is how we get you man......This is how we get you. Your Gateway's days are numbered. You know this. I know this.

TheSonOfKrypton

Is it really 2.1.1? I just got the 2.1 update, haven't applied it yet but it looks like that's the only thing available for the original touch so far.

awdark

@Jon B.: woops, posted too late :)

Jon B.

@godwhacker: Isn't there a "No Apple" feed for you trolls somewhere around here?

TheSonOfKrypton

@TheSonOfKrypton:

so, an ipod is a gateway piece of tech. to a new way of thinking.that will lead me to abandon all the cool stuff i have for a bunch of stylized, just-like-everyone-else-who-is-different/tragicly-hip-stuff?

just say no

godwhacker

@MICHAELSD: Sounds like the problem they had with the very first lot of the first gen iPhone and Touch. Manufacturing fuckup. If it is widespread we'll get an official... something... in a few months (minimum).

I kid... it'll be 6 weeks.

jbang

@biscuit2001: wait, can't create playlists on the Touch like on nano or classic? Really? Are you sure? If so... FAIL

brutek

Know what I want for Christmas,,,or sooner...touch!!!

BiZarRroBALlmeR

@Kaiser-Machead on the Edge:
k (pull)
better now?

@TheSonOfKrypton:
no troll, just stirring the pot, glad to see you take it so well.

godwhacker

I'm one of those people who are "on the fence" about buying a new iPod Touch. My iPod with video 30Gb works just fine so I don't really need a new one, but I do like the features on the Touch. This is a good review because one you said that this is more like a version 1.5, it made me think that maybe I can (and should) wait. Thanks.

RE-L

@godwhacker: Pull my finger.

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

VoIP!!!!
microphone, check
speaker, check

I would love 64Mb of memory, but this thing looks like a real "must buy" when someone jail breaks it to include VoIP. That is the killer app.

And, I mean generic VoIP not "locked to a specific provider" (akak Skype) VoIP. I have 2 VoIP lines with two different providers (1 work got me; the other is my own business). Once I can use VoIP with them, I am set.
Especially, if the VoIP app lets me do recording (interviews).

ahbi

24 blog posts on Apple and ipod alone in the first two pages? Couldnt this whole event been summed up in 1? Okay.. maybe 1 for the news, 1 to review nanos and 1 to review touch. Seriously 24?!

Aturayd

this is what the touch should have been to begin with

rudez90

@Junginator: Hahahaaa, disemvowelled! (did I spell that wrong?)

Drvec

@Jon B.: That would be iPod touch (small t).

Tank

Hmm Apple's new in-ear headphones aren't too bad. Shame they're white.

Mammoth

@biscuit2001: @brutek: Yes you can make playlists on any iPod or iPhone, idk what you guys are talking about. There called "On the Go" playlists and you can make them right from any iPod/iPhone although I must say its kind of a pain on the regular iPods but with the touch and iPhone its much easier

ab3

@ahbi: I hope you can settle for 32 GIGABYTES instead of 64 MB ;) I'm sure a 64 GB is coming sometime in the year.

The Magnificen7

@biscuit2001:

Re-hashed iPod Touch is still missing:
...
- Capability to create playlists on device

bungee

Damnit. -_- I want the Speakers and the Volume Buttons. No Lie. >_> You think ebay would want a jailbroken 2.0 iPod Touch 8GB? I have the purchase the 2G just for the speakers alone. Wait... any word on the speaker quality like hz and exact db?

I h8 ph15h with a passion

anyone tried adding the old nike+ thing to a 1G Touch running 2.1?

VakeroRokero

apple didn't say anything about genius for iphone 2.1. does this mean it's not going to have it?

gamemaster0821

@radbmw: There is no recessed headphone jack, where did you get that idea from? The only iPod/iPhone with a recessed jack was the 1st-gen iPhone.

ab3

The free PocketTouch app has solved the volume control problem and is easier to use than physical buttons: just swipe up or down over the cloth of your pants pocket rather than fiddle with volume buttons.

I have never had the need to play a song on the go for others to hear, and I would feel like an complete douchebag if I did. I also spent a lot of time jailbreaking and hacking my 1G Touch, and I'd hate to have to do it all over. No sale.

elgilicious

I'd say the recessed headphone jack was a mistake and I would also like to see a 120GB hard drive version.

radbmw

I think this article may be misnamed, calling it a review. I know it's sort of off the cuff, but it comes of as having been written by someone who liked it before they tried it. All it does is list the features and why they're good with the occasional "this wasn't great" but none of the real critique or analysis that I'd expect from a product review. And the only comparisons made were with the older version.

I'd definitely say this comes off more as a sales pitch than a review.

mhlaxp

@mhlaxp: so you're saying this is a bad product? It is a refined version of a great (selling) device... it doesn't matter if you like it or not.

sos10

I love the latest reviews on items, but really gizmodo, this is the *24th* posting with related to today's fairly lackluster Apple event. I know on any other day you'd have dozens of other non-apple related products, features, and stories. Yes I know I can view everything with a non-apple related tag, but then, I'd only have 5-6 stories from today.

I'm not normally one to say that you've gone overboard with fairly shallow Apple 'sales pitches' (as mhlaxp stated), but in this case you absolutely have. If you're going to review something, at least put a little effort into it into being objective and insightful, versus appearing more like an alternative outlet, advertising cheerleader for a corporation's products.

geekpi

It's pretty and has some new features.

And that's it really.

Drummer_Boy

will it be compatible with my existing Bose Sound Dock ? I know my iPhone 3G is not compatible :(

plwh888

"You could get a case for it, but that effectively negates its anorexic shape, not to mention its aesthetic value. "

oneword: invisibleshield.

thetrystero

It's a shame they didn't really improve upon anything other than the absolute basics. Pretty disappointing, really. Not a single "major" new feature, just two extremely minor ones (3 if you count nike+ -- which I choose not to).

Faxmonkey

It's apparent that Apple has a firm grasp of its customers. They always something to be desired out of their devices and still they sell millions of units. Next they add another tiny upgrade and people rush to sell their "old" iPods on eBay to quickly buy the new one.

KVirtanen

It's amazing how Apple gets so much attention by incorporating volume buttons and a built-in speaker to its new iPod :)

I wonder what they'll do next. A physical keyboard? Video recording? A flash?

=0

KVirtanen

@Faslane66: "Do You Have GB's or something?"

Thanks, that's the greatest thing I ever read.

MikeSWelch

The best gets even better: [www.pcmag.com]

CorinneI

only if they added a camera to it

insomniac

the thing i dont like about the iphones is that they tend to look more like remote controls than phones. and id feel like an idiot holding a tv remote up to my face

pevans34

I see a lot of people in these comments getting really excited about this. I personally can't see the appeal.

I mean i like the idea of it, but it just makes so much more sense to get an iPhone without Dataplan. That way i don't have to carry/charge two things all the time.

Optimus-Prime

@MikeSWelch:

Some of us have several hundred disks of a forgotten format, 'CDs'. Remember them. Oh and yes once i imported all of them I have 40GB of music. Add to that video, books, and podcasts and my 60GB iPod is nearly full most of the time.

MacBandit

useless without a radio.

dhaberer

@chonnes:

Wrong. I have tested my iPod against a very good CD player and DVD player using the line level output via a dock, and it deliversthe same sound quality.

Who uses the stock earphones? When not in my car or connected to my HiFi, I use a very good pair of cans and the sound quality is very good.

That said, my iPod isn't a touch so I cant, vouch for it being as good.

cnocbui

a nice move from apple.
now it is cheaper, and it has some (minor) upgrades. Not bad!!

bencahyadi

@worsethannormal: "I can't believe that this kind of storage gives anyone enough room to store even a decent sub-set of their media"

Right!, when I'm plugging my Touch to my HiFi system, I prefer to listen to WAVe files (LPCM, 1440kbps) - so a much more capacity would be great!

xsprt

@worsethannormal: Right! When using the earphones for listening, 160kbps MP3's quality is just fine. But when I'm plugging my Touch to the HiFi system I'd like to hear only WAV (LPCM, 1440kbps audio) files, so a much more capacity would be great!

xsprt

Is flash memory still that expensive to warrant the price differences in the different versions?

buzztechyear

@Mandatory_Field: my iPhone has only crashed once; otherwise is my favorite gadget currently, hands down.

banmojo

Couple of questions:

*) Does this support audio-in, like a "built-in" microphone?
*) Has anyone used this for browsing the web? How's the response, like how long do usual web pages (say giz) take to load on this new ipod touch?
*) How much memory (RAM, not FlashROM) does this thing have? Can the memory be upgraded? (I am guessing the answer is "it doesn't have much RAM" and "NO! The RAM cannot be upgraded", but, I still want a confirmation)

srmdesi

@Cyclokitty: But then you'll forget it in another dream!

MikeSWelch

@MacBandit: "Hahaha, what kind of people do you know with more than 32GB of media? Besides people that read Giz."

Besides people that read Giz. Being that you posted this comment on Giz, I assume you also read Giz.

It seems you are suffering from an epic burn.

MikeSWelch

This is the first time I've looked at the ipod touch. I was leaning towards getting the iphone without the data plan since I can get free wifi in tons of places, but now that I've read the ipod touch has email, aim, and safari I'm rethinking the iphone.

I barely use my cellphone (it helps that it works sporadically), and spend more time texting and emailing. But the cellphone is my main phone. Hmmm, downgrade my current plan to a prepaid, get the ipod touch?

Decisions decisions. Maybe I should wait until the solution comes to me in a dream.

Cyclokitty

@dhaberer: Not to be a fanboy, but I think podcasts cured my need for the radio. But I'm a talk radio/NPR guy.

(And I can at least get the pandora app on it too).

Daveed

@Kirk Douglas: I feel like plenty of times they offer refreshes to their lines, they just make them bigger, give it longer battery life, maybe a bit smaller...I don't think people should expect them to revolutionize a player every single time.

That being said, they offered improvements while taking down the price. I think that's a good thing?

Daveed

My question is, why did the press release trumpet "immediate availability" from the online store, Apple Retail Stores and Apple authorized resellers, when as of 11:30 EDT today, I was only able to find it online? Both Apple Stores in my area, and the two Best Buys in a 20 mile radius of my home said "Nope, we don't have it, and we don't know when we're getting it."

They're apparently using some new definition of "immediate" that I'm not acquainted with in Apple's PR office.

StrangeTikiGod

Where is the speaker? I can't even get Apple Service to tell me.

FutureMedia

@TheSonOfKrypton: Beautiful, funny, and oh so very true...!

Gessho

Looks nice, and improved battery life is a bonus. Hardly earth-shattering news though! I'll skip this one though as my Touch is only a couple of months old and I love it to bits. Funny though, I only use it as a web browser/email/calendar/toy. I actually have 0 (zero, count 'em) songs on mine and zero videos. I do have some photos though. My Zen 16gb (+8 SD) is better for music.

Hopefully Touch v.3 will add GPS and TomTom will release software for it. Then my credit card will come out to play. Unless iPhone v.3 has some compelling changes, of course.

robman84

Where the hell is the speaker?

piano08man

@biscuit2001: It's still missing Ogg, lossless FLAC, and a lot of other stuff like a smaller formfacter.
It's like carrying a whole DS Phat in your pocket, with less functionality and more eye candy.

kanon

My major disappointment with this ipod touch was the lack of a GPS. Not many folks seem to put much a priority on a GPS (I only saw 2 comments which mention it). But many of the most interesting new apps are based on GPS (or at least some location pinpointing) functionality. I would like to know what location technology the touch uses (Skyhook? wifi towers?), how good it is (if I bring up a google map will I know where I am?), and how well it works with the apps (like YELP) which rely on location to do their thing.

mclurman

dont forget that the 8GB costs only $230 now. thts what i like about it since i dont actually own one yet. i planned on getting the original a week ago, but it was pretty late, and the second version of the ipod touch hadnt come out yet. i assumed it was going to come out soon, and i made a good choice, didnt i.

howheatthin