Phones
Hands-On With T-Mobile G1 Android Phone
Posted by John Mahoney at 2:10 AM on September 24, 2008

We just got an early hands on with T-Mobile's G1 Android and yes, it does look as nice as it does in the photos. The screen is fantastic, and it's actually not as chunky as it looks, but it's definitely not iPhone-skinny. You can see the Sizemodo here, and we'll have even more details and a more in-depth hands-on in a bit. UPDATE: Updating hands-on impressions live, right now. UPDATE 2: Now with full video walkthrough and even more impressions.
In your hand the G1 feels good. Solid and all-plastic, but not nearly as clunky as the blurrycam photos showed. Getting used to the controls takes a little bit--babies can't pick up and instantly know their way around, like on the iPhone. Control wise, it suffers from a bit of schizophrenia--with a trackball, touchscreen, candybar mode and flip-out QWERTY, there's a lot going on at once. What's nice is that it seems to not lock you in to anyone type of control interface--scrolling with trackball and touching work at the same time in many apps.
Physically, the flip-out LCD feels solid and springy. Keyboard keys are small, spongy and a bit recessed, so it's hard to touch type right off by the feel of the keys. The touchscreen is better than we had hoped--far better than the HTC Touch's slow-to-respond screen. Scrolling is smooth at times, clunky at others, depending on the app. It's not multitouch, so it uses a "long press" UI element quite a bit—like to drag an app from the pop-out menu to the desktop—but since the touch is fairly responsive, it works pretty well.
You use the menu button a lot, more than we'd like. For instance, in the browser, our instinct—kind of biased one, admittedly—is to touch the top of the screen to pop up the URL. Here, you've gotta press menu. Same with any other app, to do pretty much anything. It also pulls the Palm move of having the home button separate to the power/lock button, so if you push the red button instinctively to kill an app, you're just going to lock your phone.
Browsing: It may just be that we're not comfortable with it yet, but the browsing is kind of cludgy. Again, control is an issue - lots of UI to fight through. Scrolling and zooming around a rendered page is a bit jerky as well, but on par with Opera Mini and similar mobile browsers. The touch zoom buttons don't work as intuitively or respond as tightly as they should. Even though they're both based on Webkit, it's not as smooth as multitouch Safari, yet. Scrolling around web pages with the trackball is definitely smoother and more intuitive, immediately, than using the touch screen.
Google Apps: We didn't have a Gmail account loaded, so we couldn't see incoming messages, but the app looks minimalistic and was snappy. Text input is with the QWERTY keyboard, as it is with every app right now. It's kinda subdued, missing the colorful bubbly design of the Gmail Mobile app for other phones. Interestingly, there is a Google Talk service active within the IM app, even though we had heard from the Android Devs that GTalk was not making it into the first version of the software.
Maps is top-notch--we found our location within a few seconds indoors on Manhattan's far east side with combines GPS and cell-tower. It's incredibly optimised, perhaps the smoothest app experience we've had yet. And Compass View, which uses accelerometers to predict where you're pointing the phone to scroll around Street View accordingly, is rad--augmented reality, here we come.
There is no native Docs app in the first release.
Android Market: Android Market appears to be fully functional--we grabbed Pac Man and installed it over the air with 3G. Overall it seems like a very, very similar experience to the App Store--downloads once under way get kicked to your notification tray for progress, and they appear in your main app pull-out drawer when finished. Pac-Man started up immediately.
Here we grab Pac-Man:
Apps in the Background: Background apps are handled with a system-wide pull-down notifications drawer in the upper left corner. When we received an IM while in another app, the sender's name blinked and we could pull it down to view. Downloading apps also appear in the notifications tray.
Multitasking is handled in an interesting way - apps never truly "quit." According to Dan Morrill, one of Google's Android software guys, it seems In most cases, the actual GUI app that you interact with on the phone (say to view your IMs) runs independently of code at a deeper, service level. That way, you don't have to be running the GUI for an app to still have it function. A task manager shows you the six most recent apps, but beyond that, the system handles which apps quit and which ones stay open entirely by itself, based on memory usage needs.
Headphone Jack: Yeah, there isn't one. You'll have to use a USB adaptor. Which isn't included. Sigh.
Music App: Not the prettiest. Integrates cover art nicely if it's there and gets the job done with sorting by album, artist, playlist--the usual. Speaker is nice and loud for when you don't have your USB adaptor. All music and media has to be side-loaded and read off an SD card, and it'll have a 1GB one included.
Amazon MP3 Store: The interface is extremely well designed, and incredibly easy to use, just as good as iTunes Wi-Fi store on our first impression. It's tied to your Amazon account, so you can buy with 1-click. You have to be connected to Wi-Fi to download it on the spot, but you can buy anytime. We actually tried to grab a song with our account, but ran into the SD card problem (as you can see in the gallery). And in some over-3G-downloading, and it'd be golden.
Dev Tools: Befitting an Linux device, the shipping G1 will feature a debug mode that, when tied to a PC via USB, allows for plenty of tinkering with apps. Security layers prevent you from futzing with the core code and application and service data, but if you have privileges, you can develop directly on the phone.
Another interesting feature is ability to install applications from a non-Android Market source. That means that it will be possible to download full applications directly from developers and install them independently from the Market. Core security again blocks apps that violate terms of services (VoIP or Amazon MP3 downloads over 3G are both confirmed no-nos), but awesome to see that the software is so accessible without any prior approval.


Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
David
Posted September 24, 2008 7:41 AM
seems it should be T-Mobile G1 beta? its cool that it has Street view built into the device from launch, the one thing lacking in the iPhone is Street View, even Blackberry now has support for it. Pity that Google Apps isnt fully integrated with the first release, a seperate Google Docs application would be something that I think most people would consider buying for $1-2 compared to running the browser version. The handling of applications such as the recent 6 seems something that may slow the phone in the future as more advanced applications are developed. Id be interested to play with one, but not sure id replace my phone yet...
MaineBob
Posted September 24, 2008 9:26 AM
Looks like a great phone... AND what about reporting on how the PHONE sounds? duh! It's a phone! Can I speak privately vs using speaker phone. Does it do Bluetooth? Is it a Quad band like my current Motorola GSM phone? Sim cards so I can use it in europe? Thanks.
Obieze
Posted September 25, 2008 6:36 AM
where can I buy the phone and how much is it in australia?
Estetik
Posted November 26, 2008 10:05 AM
Fully charge your battery to get the most out of Gogo. If you plan to be online for more than an hour, you should buy an extended battery, bring an extra battery or use a power adapter if your airline is equipped with power outlets.
phorty40
Posted 1:35 AM 24/9/08
i know what im buying the 22nd.
and yes, not getting the white one IS a deal breaker.
phorty40
phorty40
Posted 1:29 AM 24/9/08
@dnyyanks62:
agreed. this is an easy win for t-mobile customers .
phorty40
schtum
Posted 1:28 AM 24/9/08
Now that we've seen it in-focus and well lit, I actually like the white version much better than the black. The black one looks like an early 90s beeper.
schtum
mdoublej
Posted 1:27 AM 24/9/08
why is it bent at the bottom?
mdoublej
Charbax2
Posted 1:27 AM 24/9/08
Can you install VOIP applications? Can you install a BitTorrent client? Can you install DivX web player, can you play full DVD resolution videos? Can you stream as much music and video as you like? Does the browser support full flash video streaming?
Charbax2
Seinosuke
Posted 1:26 AM 24/9/08
@BanMeAgainBrianLam: It's capacitive.
Seinosuke
siville
Posted 1:25 AM 24/9/08
Well, this looks like the best place to ask...
OK, so I currently have T-mobile service on a family plan, (not likely to get rid of it anytime soon), my current phone is fading fast and I want a new one, what would be the best phone to get fairly soon?
Opinion time.
siville
Scott
Posted 1:25 AM 24/9/08
Scotty like!
Scott
ThaiGrocer
Posted 1:25 AM 24/9/08
I hope that screen is durable enough to live with the keys in my pocket.
ThaiGrocer
BanMeAgainBrianLam
Posted 1:25 AM 24/9/08
Capacitive or resistive touch? I've not seen anything about that
BanMeAgainBrianLam
dnyyanks62
Posted 1:25 AM 24/9/08
@TechnoElf: He was talking about the middle "button" on the front.
Otherwise, it doesn't look bad at all. People just too spoiled with their phones these days. T-Mobile customers don't have much to choose from.
dnyyanks62
kosai
Posted 1:24 AM 24/9/08
@TechnoElf: no there on the front, in the other pictures it looks like the stupid thinkpad joystick but it kind of looks like a trackball now
kosai
TechnoElf
Posted 1:22 AM 24/9/08
@kosai: No, looks like a "Hey don't steal this" clamp =p
TechnoElf
kosai
Posted 1:18 AM 24/9/08
Is that a trackball I see?
kosai
Kricket
Posted 1:58 AM 24/9/08
can anyone who has actually held the phone in hand comment on the wobbliness/non-wobbliness of the screen itself? in the official photos, the screen looks almost crooked - does it really look like this in the hand? does it feel "plasticky" and cheap (as the photos seemingly exhibit)?
Kricket
DarkHavoc99
Posted 1:50 AM 24/9/08
@AreWeThereYeti:
Whaaa? That cant be! I cant use it as an mp3 player with a big sd card?
DarkHavoc99
DarkHavoc99
Posted 1:47 AM 24/9/08
@Charbax2:
When you wish upon a star.
DarkHavoc99
aboriginal
Posted 1:46 AM 24/9/08
That's it!?!? Where's the Earth shattering KABOOM? Boring design and looks to break real easy-like. As big an entry as the Zune. Whoohoo.
aboriginal
ManoloDF
Posted 1:44 AM 24/9/08
I Heard it was NOT going to have UMA/Hotspot@home calling. That seems like the Stupidest thing T-Mobile could have done since they have been the ones pushing the technology and they do not release their most awaited phone with the UMA Technology. WOW
ManoloDF
danatoth
Posted 1:43 AM 24/9/08
Not too bad.
danatoth
AreWeThereYeti
Posted 1:43 AM 24/9/08
Please show us the two ends of the unit! Is it really true there is no headphone jack?? :-(
AreWeThereYeti
Playstation
Posted 2:17 AM 24/9/08
Did someone unlock this already? :)
Playstation
FatalFlaw
Posted 2:14 AM 24/9/08
@Charbax2:
It should over time - the device is completely open.
FatalFlaw
AreWeThereYeti
Posted 2:02 AM 24/9/08
@DarkHavoc99: I don't know for sure, but there was a comment to that effect on the main giz page on this. However, at some point soon A2DP is coming, so there is a workaround, but I don't want to be forced to buy stereo bluetooth headphones just to listen to music!
It's kind of hard to believe they would have missed this, given that even the iPhone, the phone with the most minimalist set of buttons and jacks in existence, has one....
AreWeThereYeti
MrBlahBlah
Posted 2:43 AM 24/9/08
meh, honestly, i am kind of underwhelmed. But i have faith that over time the platform will mature
MrBlahBlah
praevalesco
Posted 2:42 AM 24/9/08
So what your saying here is that:
1) Sub-par phone design
2) Crappy UI
3) Worthless contract on sub-par carrier
Are we talking about the Instinct again?
praevalesco
shawn_dude
Posted 2:40 AM 24/9/08
I'll buy the next-gen unlocked phone that I can use on ATT. iTunes will not run on Linux, even under Wine.
Meanwhile, openMoko, which should have been to market two (2!) years ago, is still in their pre-consumer phase, on hardware that cannot even do EDGE. Oh well.
shawn_dude
Scott
Posted 2:39 AM 24/9/08
I'm willing to bet that a majority of the people who are for this phone are also linux users. The Open Source aspect makes the phone imho.
Scott
jerfrank
Posted 2:38 AM 24/9/08
Too bad the T-Mobile limits you data throughput to 50 kbps or less after 1gb of usage in one billing cycle. [jeremyfranklin.org]
jerfrank
stopcrazypp
Posted 2:36 AM 24/9/08
@AreWeThereYeti:
Sorry about the link:
[www.htc.com]
stopcrazypp
clipseGTS
Posted 2:36 AM 24/9/08
i logged into tmobile but its not letting me upgrade or pre order it!WTF!
"Sorry, please try again later.
Our systems are currently unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience. "
clipseGTS
Pacha
Posted 2:35 AM 24/9/08
Ugly phone nice google integration:
+ Watch video
Pacha
beanPirate
Posted 2:35 AM 24/9/08
I would like to get one if i could get into the freakin SITE. T-Mobile shoud lhave known better. EVERYBODY GET OFF so i can order mine NOW
beanPirate
stopcrazypp
Posted 2:35 AM 24/9/08
@AreWeThereYeti:
It is the standard HTC ExtUSBâ„¢ from the specs page:
[www.htc.com]
Means you need an adapter for standard 3.5mm plugs (not sure if one is included). Skip this phone if you really need a headphone jack and wait for the Samsung, LG ones.
(reposting so it shows up under replies)
stopcrazypp
OGHowie
Posted 2:35 AM 24/9/08
@terebakashi:
You sure? So people can use this on AT&T? But I guess 3G would be useless since TMobile uses their own frequencies.
OGHowie
stopcrazypp
Posted 2:34 AM 24/9/08
@Charbax2:
Woah, I think you are asking a bit much for a platform that just came out. Eventually that stuff will make it on the phone if there is enough developer interest in it.
@AreWeThereYeti:
It is the standard HTC ExtUSBâ„¢ from the specs page:
[www.htc.com]
Means you need an adapter for standard 3.5mm plugs (not sure if one is included). Skip this phone if you really need a headphone jack and wait for the Samsung, LG ones.
stopcrazypp
exkon
Posted 2:33 AM 24/9/08
T-mobile? Damn it, I guess no-way ATT was going to have this and the iPhone...
exkon
berbar
Posted 2:32 AM 24/9/08
Is the LCD flip or slide?
berbar
terebakashi
Posted 2:28 AM 24/9/08
@ashamaniq:
Funny because it's already unlocked?
terebakashi
Dearhaw
Posted 2:26 AM 24/9/08
@AreWeThereYeti:
Ha! And people thought that the original iPhone's recessed headphone jack was bad ;-) (btw, it is bad)
Dearhaw
Dearhaw
Posted 2:23 AM 24/9/08
@FatalFlaw:
"It should over time - the device is completely open"
Here is one thing that, as an iPhone user, I will truly envy, if it's actually true. But I'm just wondering how T-Mo (or any other carrier) would allow that. If you can get Skype on 3G with unlimited data, then nobody would ever pay for extra minutes or international calls. People will just get the cheapest voice plan + unlimited data and never have to pay extra. Is that really possible?
If it is, then there's one reason I will truly consider switching from an iPhone.
Dearhaw
ashamaniq
Posted 2:19 AM 24/9/08
eh... looks like it's made out of cheap plastic though...
Would be funny if google shows 0 results when searching for "unlocking android"
hehe
ashamaniq
strider_mt2k
Posted 3:00 AM 24/9/08
Heeey, it looks like they left some space above the top row too! Nice!
My Samsung Glyde and my Nokia N810 both suffer from the bottom of the screen being a touch too close to the top row and it interferes with smooth text input.
Doesn't look like problem here!
strider_mt2k
sumocat
Posted 2:54 AM 24/9/08
"can't pick up and instantly know their way around, like on the iPhone" -- I would point out that Apple does a great job of demonstrating how to use the iPhone in their marketing. People think it's intuitive, but there's some subconscious instruction involved. Android hasn't had that yet.
sumocat
chiieddy
Posted 2:51 AM 24/9/08
1 GB internal memory, is there an external card slot on top? Hard to tell. Is the thing Bluetooth enabled? Not even the CSR at T-mobile could answer these questions.
chiieddy
ALT
Posted 2:50 AM 24/9/08
@stopcrazypp: That sucks!!! Whatever other android phones WILL have a 3.5mm jack, so its no biggie for the platform, just this phone.
ALT
jibbly
Posted 2:45 AM 24/9/08
What's up with that weird angled bottom part?
jibbly
DJJS
Posted 2:44 AM 24/9/08
The only think I might of Liked was Street View,
Other then that im sure that App can Be Ported to Apples app Store.
or Just Jail Break = )
DJJS
paulnptld
Posted 3:22 AM 24/9/08
'doing myriad other things.' Oops.
paulnptld
paulnptld
Posted 3:21 AM 24/9/08
Am I the only one yawning here? I'm no apple fanboy, but I just purchased the iPhone 3G. I'm already using it as a mouse for my home entertainment center, using it's VNC features to log into remote computers, and doing other myriad things using the slick interface.
I'm saying 'day late, dollar short' on this one.
paulnptld
DMcGrew
Posted 3:20 AM 24/9/08
This has epic fail written all over it.
DMcGrew
newgalactic
Posted 3:18 AM 24/9/08
While I'm very excited about Android, that is one ugly phone. I'm eagerly awaiting Android being loaded onto a nicer phone, like the HTC Touch HD.
newgalactic
JrezIN
Posted 3:15 AM 24/9/08
They didn't say GTalk wouldn't make into the first Android version... they said the the GTalk/XMPP *presence* API wasn't making into the first version... this one could be used for apps to create Xbox Liveish services... in the end, the security team didn't liked it too much and they needed a lot of re-enginering...
JrezIN
bobdobbs
Posted 3:15 AM 24/9/08
Designed by committee and it shows.
bobdobbs
OGHowie
Posted 3:11 AM 24/9/08
@sumocat:
I'd have to agree. My bro got the 3G and didn't even know you could stretch to zoom in because he didn't read the manual or watch any videos. He just thought you double tapped everything....
OGHowie
Sean Robertson
Posted 3:09 AM 24/9/08
@Pacha: Jesus, he's cute. Too bad the phone is so ugly. I think I'd be tempted to toss it just like he did.
Sean Robertson
jhcovert
Posted 3:07 AM 24/9/08
@siville: I hear StarTac is making a SICK comeback any day now!
jhcovert
ArakniD
Posted 3:41 AM 24/9/08
@Charbax2:
No flash support currently as seen in the screenshots,
no ad on Gizmodo.com
@Dearhaw:
You still have to pay skype or whatever to call landlines dont you??@Charbax2:
ArakniD
ManoloDF
Posted 3:39 AM 24/9/08
I cant believe the G1 does not have UMA capabilities, that seems ridiculous.
ManoloDF
ArakniD
Posted 3:39 AM 24/9/08
No flash support as seen in the screen shots.
when on the gizmodo page, the ad doesnt show up
:-(
makes me sad
@hofodude:
im pretty sure you can turn all that off.
ArakniD
hofodude
Posted 3:33 AM 24/9/08
Login to Google means ... using internet data connection.
If everything is synched via internet data connection, then this will be very expensive while roaming ... let say going to other country.
Even worse, if we have to login to Google just to use the phone!
Fail
hofodude
rexplex
Posted 3:26 AM 24/9/08
@Dearhaw:
During the event that introduced iPhone 3G, Jobs mentioned that a VoIP app would be welcome if it did not transmit VoIP traffic over the at&t networks, IIRC.
I know for a fact that the BB Curve (T-Mo) will send VoIP traffic over Wi-Fi & then hand off to the cellular network when you leave the house. T-Mo also offer unlimited Hot-Spot calling.
[www.t-mobile.com]
rexplex
Sasquatch
Posted 3:47 AM 24/9/08
The home screen looks a lot like a Gnome desktop to me. This is a good thing.
Sasquatch
jTexans
Posted 3:47 AM 24/9/08
@beanPIRATE
just got off....
....of your mom!
bwhahahahaha
jTexans
qrius
Posted 4:20 AM 24/9/08
android is cool - phone is not. The menu button is ugly.
qrius
iPhoneGroupie
Posted 4:15 AM 24/9/08
@ManoloDF: Is this really true? what a waste if they don't support UMA.
iPhoneGroupie
onewiththewurlitzer
Posted 4:14 AM 24/9/08
someone needs to clip their fingernails, gotdang dracula!
onewiththewurlitzer
Sasquatch
Posted 4:11 AM 24/9/08
@DMcGrew: Can we please retire this idiotic phrase? It makes you sound like an adolescent.
Sasquatch
laiten
Posted 4:29 AM 24/9/08
Unfortunately, I'm a little bit disappointed with the G1. I was hoping for something that would compare well against the iPhone to force Apple to push the envelope. The android platform certainly has the foundation and has the functionality. What's missing in spades is the lustiness factor and a little bit of "je ne sais quoi".
Take a typical teenager who listens to pop music on the street. Would the G1 be on their list for Santa?
laiten
ppiddy
Posted 4:26 AM 24/9/08
I'm liking the idea of Android a lot more than the reality, so far.
The lack of a headphone jack is like some sort of cruel joke, and perhaps exactly the sort of omission you'd expect when the software and hardware developers ain't across the hall from eachother.
ppiddy
tileeater
Posted 4:25 AM 24/9/08
the first person who will call you on this will be the 90's, they want their UI back.
tileeater
EBone
Posted 4:56 AM 24/9/08
@jerfrank: That blows if it's true.
EBone
ripfire
Posted 4:54 AM 24/9/08
@kaizoku80: Yeah. Now you're holding a slab of phone with a bent bottom against your head.
ripfire
kaizoku80
Posted 4:52 AM 24/9/08
@mdoublej:
So it doesn't feel like you're holding a slab of phone against your head.
kaizoku80
kaizoku80
Posted 4:51 AM 24/9/08
I'm digging the slight bend at the bottom to help put the mic closer to the mouth. I HATE phones that feel like you're holding a slab of plastic/metal against the side of my head (iPhone, Instinct, etc.)...it's a nice touch IMO.
kaizoku80
rudez90
Posted 5:22 AM 24/9/08
the phone itself look fugly but android looks pretty cool. too bad its on tmobile.
rudez90
mricpx
Posted 5:05 AM 24/9/08
Kate's so getting laid.@Pacha:
mricpx
newSeasons
Posted 5:38 AM 24/9/08
wow seriously? YOUR JOKING RIGHT?
newSeasons
ifstone
Posted 5:27 AM 24/9/08
Here's the ultimate test of openness: will VOIP/Skype ever run on this? Can I just get a data plan with no voice plan? :)
ifstone
Xenocide
Posted 6:00 AM 24/9/08
@jhcovert: HA!
Xenocide
avconsumer2
Posted 6:16 AM 24/9/08
@exkon: Yeah... bummer. I don't get crap for Tmobile reception where I'm working/living. Meh - HTC Pro/Fuze is coming soon.
avconsumer2
avconsumer2
Posted 6:13 AM 24/9/08
@jhcovert: I was the first person I knew to have a StarTac - MAN that thing was awesome.
avconsumer2
MichaelScrip
Posted 6:08 AM 24/9/08
@laiten: "Would the G1 be on their list for Santa?"
Maybe if they have a Sidekick on T-mobile... although I've only ever seen one person with a Sidekick.
MichaelScrip
RoscoPeeholePain
Posted 6:30 AM 24/9/08
no headphone jack? as someone with a 2year t-mob contract about to expire THIS doesn't make me all that excited to renew. looks like i'm gonna be jailbreaking an iphone 'cause this def ain't no iphone killer
RoscoPeeholePain
metaluna21
Posted 7:26 AM 24/9/08
Is the screen optical glass or plastic? That would probably be my biggest question or concern. No sense in having a huge screen that scratches easily.
metaluna21
bandit
Posted 7:34 AM 24/9/08
No headphone jack? Wha? That's even worse than Apple's original decision to create the recessed headphone jack on the iPhone.
bandit
Wicked1
Posted 8:01 AM 24/9/08
@siville:
That really depends on your needs. Do you like to browse the web? IM? Text a lot? Do you want a keyboard or not? Go to a TMobile store and check out a sidekick and other phones similar to it
Wicked1
jrghoull
Posted 8:45 AM 24/9/08
no voip?!?!? F**K!!!!
jrghoull
Mr.Purple
Posted 9:09 AM 24/9/08
What is the screen like? Is it glass, plastic?
Mr.Purple
SpcmnSpf
Posted 8:54 AM 24/9/08
(VoIP or Amazon MP3 downloads over 3G are both confirmed no-nos)
But we could still do it over wi-fi, so not that bad.
SpcmnSpf
Kuroyume
Posted 9:22 AM 24/9/08
i can't believe i'm the only person that thinks the phone actually looks nice? it may not be flashy, but it doesn't look ugly to me.
I just hope it doesn't take as long as it did for the iPhone for a carrier here in south america to pick it up...
Kuroyume
Ike_Skelton
Posted 10:05 AM 24/9/08
I'm a t-mobile customer and I'm wholly unimpressed with this phone. I was waiting to renew my contract to coincide with this phone's release, but maybe I'll go somewhere with good phones.
Ike_Skelton
vgart
Posted 9:56 AM 24/9/08
Its a good start, but its far from competing with Apple
vgart
ejl10
Posted 10:29 AM 24/9/08
I really like this. I recently left T-Mobile to get the iPhone 3G, and it is far from perfect. I hope that once competition from the open Android platform starts to come alive, Apple will feel compelled to keep up and offer us some really ground breaking improvements. I'm what you'd call a fanboy (since I have lots of iToys), but I'm increasingly disappointed in Apple's competitiveness. Next up... AppleTV killer!
ejl10
Dearhaw
Posted 11:05 AM 24/9/08
@ArakniD:
Well, two things. One, if I already have a Skype account (I do) with a one year unlimited plan (I do), I wouldn't be paying any extra to have Skype on my cell.
Two, if you're calling international, then a pay-as-you-go price of Skype to most countries in the world is a fraction of a fraction of what you would pay your cell carrier. On top of that, my yearly plan with Skype includes unlimited calling to landlines in all the countries I'm interested in calling (UK, France, Japan), so it would be a dream for me to have Skype over 3G on my cell. Again, I think that's unlikely to become a reality on any carrier regardless of OS.
Dearhaw
Dearhaw
Posted 10:59 AM 24/9/08
@rexplex:
Ah, sorry, I should have made it clear that what I meant was "Skype over the 3G network", which, Apple/AT&T will not allow. Yes, there most certainly will be a VoIP app or 2 coming to the iPhone that will be restricted to WiFi access.
The point being that while some people, understandably, are creaming their pants over the potential of this "completely open" platform, I would be very surprised, and very envious, if that really meant that you can have a VoIP app on Android that will use the 3G/cell network.
My guess, however, is that any and all cell carriers will explicitly prohibit such apps.
Dearhaw
MINI Driver
Posted 10:52 AM 24/9/08
@aboriginal: Harsh, but fair!
LMMacAO!
MINI Driver
Mister Cow Pnoy
Posted 11:14 AM 24/9/08
@Charbax2: Why the hell would you want a BitTorrent client? that'd just bog down your phone, and there isn't nearly enough space on it for any useful downloading.
Mister Cow Pnoy
Zencyde
Posted 11:56 AM 24/9/08
@kosai: That is indeed a trackball.
Zencyde
Spaz6to8
Posted 1:57 PM 24/9/08
@mricpx: He should have put "Stickin' it to kate" in his calender instead
Spaz6to8
Anticitizen
Posted 2:56 PM 24/9/08
I'm only really phyched for Android because it'll push other platforms (Looking in your direction, Apple) to further open up their devices.
Android will only get better and better in time. I only wish it came on a better piece of hardware though; the G1 doesn't look too great, on top of the fact that typing on it must be a royal pain since the right side of the phone is higher than the rest of the keyboard.
Anticitizen
science vs romance
Posted 4:25 PM 24/9/08
am I overly brainwashed by apple, or is the UI other than streetview really not at all pretty?
science vs romance
Carbon
Posted 4:19 PM 24/9/08
Papi Like!
Carbon
ibelli
Posted 11:40 PM 24/9/08
Not. Sexy. Enough.
ibelli
Jraktal
Posted 12:05 AM 25/9/08
this looks like a public paid beta of a not ready for actual use phone and OS.
looks like I am going to wait for the HTC Touch HD
Jraktal
Jesssssse
Posted 2:37 AM 25/9/08
WTF with the mobile version of Gizmodo on my iPhone? Stinking ugly and harder to read than the real version to boot. Shouldn't the point of a mobile version be to make your site look better on mobile phones? This looks a thousand bazillion times worse, and will drive away iPhone traffic guaranteeds.
Jesssssse
Unkn?wnGh?st
Posted 3:44 AM 25/9/08
I Just got to see this device in real life. I went to the tmobile store at 57st and 7th ave in Manhattan. The managers Alex K****r and some other guy were outside smoking and playing with it. I asked them if I could see the G1 and they said they didn't have it yet, (even though it was right in their hands) I said its in your hands right now, they then said we can't show they phone until 10/22.
What!? I see it right now. :( I think its safe to say that you should stay away from this store they don't really seem like they want to make the customer happy, and would most likely treat you like you stupid for even asking to see a new product. HOW RUDE!!!
Unkn?wnGh?st
Dearhaw
Posted 4:26 AM 25/9/08
@Mister Cow Pnoy:
Uh, when you have 16 or even 32GB of storage, I can see plenty of cases where I'd want to download a movie or a TV show on the road. But asking "why the hell would you want to do X" in this context is silly, because the whole allure of Android -- at least to the geeks within us, is that theoretically "We can do with it as we please!"
Dearhaw
im_here_for_the_food
Posted 5:28 AM 25/9/08
I pre-ordered me a black version yesterday. I'm excited about this phone and am anxious to see what it can do. I will be leaving my t-mobile Wing behind. I'll get the G1 delivered on Oct 22.
im_here_for_the_food
NigelPaddock
Posted 2:17 AM 25/9/08
What about call quality? has anybody tried to make a phone call with this device? it is funny that everybody is talking about maps, and internet browsing, but nobody has mentioned anything about how easy (or difficult), or well integrated is the dialer program. It is a phone after all, we want that to make phone calls, you know?
NigelPaddock
Greasybaz
Posted 8:49 AM 24/9/08
A nice overview but there's one function I'm interested in that he seems to have missed... the... uh... phone.
Greasybaz
icebearii
Posted 2:54 AM 24/9/08
@ManoloDF: I have no use for this phone unless they implement @HOME UMA service, way to drop the ball. Tmobile's wonderful ;) reception won't even work at my home without the @HOME service plan I have for my BB Curve.
icebearii