Science
Carbon Nanotube Supercapacitors May Replace Clunky Car Batteries
Posted by Kit Eaton at 11:00 PM on September 22, 2008
Carbon nanotubes are one of the surprising new carbon supermaterials, and it looks like their application in supercapacitors may have a role in replacing clunky old car battery tech. Scientists at the University of Texas at Dallas have invented a technique to make supercapacitor "paper" made from randomly tangled carbon nanotubes embedded in a polymer. Both chemical batteries and capacitors store electrical charge, in differing ways, but nanotech supercapacitors could store more energy in a smaller space, without the dangers associated with chemical systems. Potentially excellent news given the rise of the hybrid car. Better yet the new technique is "easily scalable for device fabrication on an industrial scale," so it might end up in real products sooner rather than later. [Physorg]

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Killjoy
Posted 11:48 PM 22/9/08
Combine this with e-paper for killer tech.
Killjoy
godwhacker
Posted 11:43 PM 22/9/08
how do you regulate the charge coming out of a super capacitor?
godwhacker
lldsandsll
Posted 11:31 PM 22/9/08
@Joseph_Shaw_520: prolly has great recycled uses
lldsandsll
Joseph_Shaw_520
Posted 11:28 PM 22/9/08
@Themindtaker: Don't get me wrong, I'm excited about the tech, but what about disposal? We need to be thinking about that nowdays too.
Joseph_Shaw_520
Themindtaker
Posted 11:24 PM 22/9/08
@Joseph_Shaw_520: one would hope that since they're going to be holding onto extremely large (at least to our squishy bodies) charges, the tubes should be well protected from us (or us from them). Being suspended in a polymer matrix should also keep them from getting out also.
Themindtaker
closhedbb
Posted 11:17 PM 22/9/08
Yes, but how fast can it absorb a charge, and how much can it store?
I wanna see something that can capture lightning!
But my obsession with lightning aside, this seems pretty freaking cool, and definitely a needed technology.
closhedbb
Joseph_Shaw_520
Posted 11:03 PM 22/9/08
YAAY Carbon Nanotubes!!!
They still worse than asbestos??
Joseph_Shaw_520
dingus
Posted 12:22 AM 23/9/08
@godwhacker: The same way that you do with NiMH or Li* packs: a motor controller for speed control and a big fat fuse for when something goes wrong.
dingus
dingus
Posted 12:20 AM 23/9/08
If these have the ESR needed to drive an electric car, there's nothing safe about them. Safer than maybe lithium-anything, since it doesn't contain a metal that combusts on contact with air.
dingus
helldiver
Posted 12:19 AM 23/9/08
great! I can finally build my riverboat.
helldiver
sold2early
Posted 12:06 AM 23/9/08
But wait, won't these create miniature black holes?
sold2early
Joseph_Shaw_520
Posted 11:54 PM 22/9/08
@godwhacker: Magical "little people"....nah same way you do with current caps, based on the property of the materials. They'll have ratings, and devices will be engineered to use em.
Joseph_Shaw_520
dingus
Posted 12:54 AM 23/9/08
@Slartibartfast: And an overabundance in Terminator populations. You didn't think the world's production of coltan was going into tantalum capacitors for a technical reason?
dingus
Slartibartfast
Posted 12:47 AM 23/9/08
After building all these nano-tube batteries (with carbon) for the sake of reducing green-house-gas emissions (of carbon), there won't be any carbon (carbon) left in the atmosphere. This is going to cause a catastrophic reduction in global sea level.
Has Al Gore been informed?
Slartibartfast
krystar
Posted 12:29 AM 23/9/08
oy. the production of the space elevator is gonna take up the entire world's supply of carbon nanotubes. we won't have any left over for hybrid car batteries.
krystar
darthuv
Posted 1:33 AM 23/9/08
Awesome, and given the fact that they are produced in a lightweight layer sheet technology means they are more open to being formed and shaped giving them more freedom to where they might be placed in a device.
darthuv
ripfire
Posted 1:18 AM 23/9/08
@godwhacker: "how do you regulate the charge coming out of a super capacitor?"
Here's a hint: You have to somehow resist the flow of electric charge.
ripfire
crazydave_w
Posted 2:00 AM 23/9/08
Well, I won't hold my breath, but here's hoping it pans out.
crazydave_w
GadgetPlay
Posted 1:47 AM 23/9/08
@helldiver: + 12 for "River World" reference.
@ripfire: "You have to somehow resist the flow of electric charge."
But resistance is futile!
GadgetPlay
Tank
Posted 2:32 AM 23/9/08
@closhedbb: The guys at MIT last year said they could use this tech to make a cell phone battery that lasts about the same but could charge in 5-10 minutes...and no battery memory problems.
It sounds like the holy grail.
Tank
rubicon_65
Posted 2:26 AM 23/9/08
@krystar: Right... since carbon's so hard to find these days.
rubicon_65
Jafro
Posted 4:57 AM 23/9/08
Silly closhedbb, lightning can only be stored in DeLoreans. Everyone knows THAT!
Jafro
danatoth
Posted 1:31 AM 23/9/08
Roll up your "grass" with some of this paper, you will go places I tell ya.
danatoth
PDO
Posted 6:49 AM 23/9/08
@Joseph_Shaw_520:
The hell with disposal,,, anything with NANOTUBES gets my vote.
PDO
Daimyo Nintendo
Posted 9:02 AM 23/9/08
god I love technology...and the advancement of.
Daimyo Nintendo
ripfire
Posted 10:07 AM 23/9/08
@CrashingOut: I heard that the reason technologies such as this never sees the light of day because our government is afraid that our enemies might be able to get a hold of this and take out our advantage.
Take for example Raytheon's XOS Exoskeleton. Now pair that with EEStor's battery (which happened to garner Lockheed's interests). And what do you get? This.
ripfire
CrashingOut
Posted 10:00 AM 23/9/08
JESUS CHRIST NOT THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN. Didn't we all just go through a rant aobut supercapacitance and how the best of the best in farads is F$@#ING 1/10th A BATTERY?!?! Unless we see 1000% improvement f$#@ you. Really, I'm getting sick of having my hopes jerked on a chain. I've heard of NOTHING more vaporous and out of reach touted so much before in my consciousness. I'm fed up with everything except the result, which NOBODY has given, with these new battery technologies. WE'VE HEARD THIS DREAM FOREVER, can we get a ban on anything short of a result? I hate to be discriminatory but it's almost like spam to me at this point.
/rantedout
CrashingOut
rockntrumpet
Posted 2:41 PM 27/9/08
Seriously, enough of this crap already.
rockntrumpet