It is so good they should give it away. Nothing says quality like free.

Roger Huston

HELL YEAH! I already have the 24-105mm L, so now I just need to save my duckets for this baby. Anyone want a good-condition 40D?

nubbinator

@purple-pillows: The D700 MSRP at launch was $2999 for body only. This is $2699 for body only.

matt buchanan

@pdditty: i know... i'm kind of dissapointed, even though i didnt plan on buying the 900.

shorty6049

FINALLY.

Mammoth

now i'm glad that i didn't invest in EF-S lenses :D

nuance

meh I will stick with my trusty 35mm SLR

taftsearlobe33

I'm definitely excited - can't wait to see sample images get posted to see how the high ISO shots perform.

scrag

i love the d700 and the d90 but this seems like the best of both worlds... to bad its the price of those two combined, but that's to be expected

purple-pillows

href="#c7806647">pdditty: i totally agree

Holy crap, iso at 25,600?! I want to see how good or bad the noise is from this beast.@

greenleave5

damn Sony A900 gets lost in the shuffle now

pdditty

Right, my beloved 5d is officially up for sale. And I'l be either mugging or begging to make up the difference. To be frank the list price is kind of 'nice surprise' I remember buying 5d at 3000+, and I was bracing for sticker shock. Thank goodness for competition.

tdjohan

hot damn. makes my 40D looks like a toy (which it's not.. it's a really good camera!) :)

chopstickhero

The words "I want that" are repeating in my head like a schizophrenic mantra. I can't make it stop. Help me!

LoganAdams

so if i sell my new 40d with grip and 17-55 i might be able to buy the 5d body. haha dammit.

sdsviet

@matt buchanan: and what camera do you think is best?

purple-pillows

@matt buchanan: yeah thats the msrp but you can find the d700 for around $1800 now...

[lowpricedigital.com]

i dont know how legit those retailers are though

you think 5d mark II will have a similar price drop? If so i will hold out for under $2000

purple-pillows

*Cough*, *Cough*

Screen Name

@showtime775: No but I'll trade for a well used XTi with grip. :D

Mammoth

My XTi feels so, so small.

markarian

Hmm. no weather seal.

iomatic

Still love my 5D. 5D Mark II looks good though.

monkeystuff

@pdditty: HA! Sony is NOT loving this camera.

photophile

So, will this work better than my cell phone?

shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog

@bjarnia: agreed

jromine

@TorkLugnutz: You might be able to read what it does on january, but it won't be out for another year after that probably.

bjarnia

Ahh, there it is. I still like the D90 price point better, but the two are in totally different classes. Kinda obsoletes the D700.

Now, I just gotta see what the Red camera can do in January.

TorkLugnutz

@jromine: I would... It will probably fall in price in a few days, I would think. Or you could choose to go with the new version.

bjarnia

I'm wondering if this could be the beginning of a DSLR arms race. Now Both Sony and Cannon have announced 20+ Megapixel Full Frame DSLRs in the $3k range... your move Nikon.

something_unique_and_descriptive

This is nothing compared to my $120 kodak camera!...jk i would really like to buy this, but i don't know $3500 is too much for a hobby.

Mike918

Boner.

twoeightnine

damn i just bought the 24mm f1.4L today!!! now they come out with a new one the day i finally lay down a grand for the 1997 version. what are the chances?!! not sure if i should cancel my order or not...

jromine

nice post @ 12:01 am... NDA much? :o

bjarnia

@Mammoth: I know! Want to buy it?

showtime775

@showtime775: Then sell it quick.

Mammoth

If I would have known it would be this cheap I would have waited. My 5D is less than 4 months old and I would have rather spent the extra $800 to get this one.

showtime775

@greenleave5: ISO25600 is probably pretty noisy, but DIGIC has always been an amazing post-processor so you can probably get some great images up to ISO6400.

terebakashi

@emorphien: yeah that site i linked to before isnt recommended... at all

purple-pillows

man gizmodo just put me in jiz-mode-o!

please dont ban me

redkamel

@purple-pillows: That price is what I would call "too good to be true" Check out bhphoto.com or adorama for example to see real world prices (you may find lower but bhphoto is sort of a gold standard).

Also, make friends with resellerratings.com to find out how bad some of the other photo retailers online can be. You'd likely never get the D700 from them at any price unless it was more than B&H charges.

emorphien

Amazing, except for the 9-point AF(6-assist), and still the spot-meter isn't linked to the focusing point.

Honestly, this would be the perfect camera if it could have a AF half as good as the 51-point AF in the D700.

Scaramanga

Great camera, but my last 10 cameras went to mortgage bailout taxes.

heroineworshipper

this is very exciting! I have been shooting 1ds mark II's for a few years now and didn't buy the 1ds mark III because of the the tethering problems. I have my fingers crossed that canon put a firewire out like the 1ds mark II. or something that works with a frickin computer... if they did, this could be the nikon killer - not to mention kicking phase one, leaf + hassel-bad a good one in the balls

kungfugrip

so: 5d mk II + hdmi capture card + external boom mic and recorder = the new indie hotness?

burningsensation

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES x1000

rudeadly

@burningsensation: As an addendum to that, for some cases maybe the hdmi capture card's not necessary, DPreview quotes this spec for video capture mode:

1920 x 1080 (16:9) up to 12 mins (Quicktime 1080p H.264; 38.6 Mbits/sec)

38.6 mbits/sec is greater than the max bitrate for hd-dvd (yeah i know it's a dead format, but its picture quality was always great)

burningsensation

Canon's posted two sample images to their Japan site:

[cweb.canon.jp]

Soundman1402

This thing is gonna sell a bazillion bodies, people have been waiting for a 5d update forever.

I'd be happy if this forced the whole ef-s lens market to drop in price as well!

15sunrises

thank goodness.. i've loved my 5d for four years.. but i've been ready for this for two.. and it's cheaper by 1300$.. niicccee.. so excited

LostAtoll

@Scaramanga: Agreed...

@something_unique_and_descriptive: The number of megapixels a camera has really is over rated, it may sound like a great thing to cram more in there but if they don't manage the noise well it'll be a mess. What I wouldn't give to see Sigma's sensor technology in a Nikon body like a D300 or D700!

saeder

@shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog: No, your cell phone will have better reception.

theimmc

"It'll be $2700 for the body or $3500 with the 24-105mm kit lens, ..."

Correction, guys, come-on, the 24-105L is $1059 by itself, with "L" being a "pro" lens...not a "kit" lens which means "Throw-away-plastic-lenses".

The 5D is a full-frame camera and will make nice use of the 24mm wide in that lens, which is about as wide as you can go without any extra work.

loslosbaby

@loslosbaby:

I think they simply mean that it's included in the kit, regardless of L or not.

Also, the 17-40mm doesn't really need extra work when being shot ast 17mm.

15sunrises

Wow, it's everything I was hoping to be...
I have to have it! NOW!

ellito

Finally! All these years of holding off on buying the 5D and it's in the price range I have saved up for (plus the price of the vert grip and L bracket). I can now finally stop shooting 35 film to get full frame! I'm sure I will still feel like going through a roll or two of PAN-F or Velvia for old times sake or at least until the bricks in my fridge are gone.

I may actually get it with the kit lens. Been looking for something in that focal length range as a "street" lens. As loslosbaby pointed out it is $250 less if you buy it with the kit as opposed to buying it separately.

@iomatic: I was thinking the same thing. From the pictures I think there is a chance there may be some weather sealing but it's probably wishful thinking.

spaceman37

Yawn. I know it'll be a bit of a wait, but
the Red DSLR, er, DSMC, will blow away what
Nikon, Canon, or [cough] Sony have to offer.

[www.reduser.net]

mjtobler

Two things to remember about the video recording.

If you can't attach a directional mic, then the fact that it records in stereo is worth nothing. You'd be far better off with one channel of sound, and the ability to attach a directional mic. Otherwise all you get is stereo atmos and lots of camera noise - not so good for voices, and not a match for hi-res pictures.

Picture quality on video is unlikely to rival a decent HD video camera. Too many compromises made with the still CCD for that.

I'd be happy to be proved wrong on both these points.

xThadd

Amazing, but I think I'll stick with saving up for the Nikon D90.

I have college expenses people :(

Jon B.

@xThadd: man, I hate to say it, but ZIPIDEE DO DAH! It's a still camera! A freaking sweet,slap my ass and call me sally awesome still camera that "happens" to be able to record awesome video. It's not a video camera that grabs stills...

sqeakytoy of the apocalypse

@sqeakytoy of the apocalypse: Exactly. I for one was skeptical of HD Video, but you know I am actually looking forward to playing with it. Can do artsy stuff with a fisheye or a lensbaby. I was thinking of getting a vixia or something just to shoot small clips to tie my stills together on a DVD presentation. This will be perfect for doing just that. Don't care for audio as I use music anyway and if I wanted to get fancy I could brush the dust off my M1 DAT and mics.

spaceman37

I look forward to the many comparisons between the D700, A900, and this new Canon. They each have pluses and negatives so it will be interesting.

JChristopher

I wasn't planning on upgrading because I love my 5D. But this camera is amazing.... I'm feeling some G.A.S. coming on...

Dirk

I'm going to cry...I've waited so long...

thetickler

Neat, too bad its burst speed is that of the D80.

archercc

this camera...is goingto change the world

evolutionvintage

Holy shit. How large will those picture files be?!

Ike_Skelton

@spaceman37: Microphone input!

[www.dpreview.com]

photophile

@photophile: thats what the Pro bodies are for. You want a brick, you buy a 1. everyone else, you get the rest.

sqeakytoy of the apocalypse

@iomatic: DPreview.com mentions some Environmental Sealing, but not how much.

photophile

@nubbinator: I do!!

dandaman247

@loslosbaby:

Uh, NO! This is the 24-105 L series pro lens. The current 5D also had this good of a price for this lens in the kit, about $800. This is the real deal.

gre9del

@xThadd: P.S. dear god man, the RED video camera only has an 11 Megapixel sensor! this is 21!

gre9del

@xThadd:

Well, be happy then, because you can attach an external mike to it, and the CMOS chip (not CCD) used in this camera rivals anything used in hi-def video. One frame of hi-def almost always looks terrible, one frame from this camera=awesome x 29.97 :]

gre9del

@archercc: Perhaps it can handle higher shooting speeds if you lower the res to 10mp. I guess it depends on if it's a hardware limit of the shutter/mirror or processing limit of handling all those megabytes.

WiwiJumbo

Wow, it's got a microphone jack. It's a mini-plug, but a microphone jack nonetheless....

Dirk

It'd be great to see some samples of it's video ability like Nikon did for the D90...

And the Casio model is the EX-F1:

[exilim.casio.com]

howdytex

what was the name of the new casio slo mo cam for $600? i cant find it by search, i want to show a friend.

takemetoyourtoaster

@gre9del: Sure, but the RED uses all the pixels for video, and the 5D MKII "down samples" it to 1080.

photophile

@kungfugrip: What tethering problems? I've tethered a 1Ds Mark III in studio no problemo over Wifi and USB. Just curious as to what issues you're referring to?

gre9del

@saeder: Sigma's sensor is terrible. The amount of pixels makes a huge difference with a sensor this large. Do you think Canon could charge $8,000 for the 1Ds if this was too many pixels to "manage the noise" properly?

gre9del

@loslosbaby: P.S. I'm dumb and read what you said wrong, sorry about that!

gre9del

Rock the Freak On!!!!!!!

ralfhutter

this is quite amazing, I'm a D90 shooter, but if I was pro, or had enough $, I would totally switch to Canon for this. Don't plan on this dropping in price for a looong time.

westonalan

best. Canon. Ever.

DeanOfAllTrades

Sweet Jesus, finally!! Fucking FINALLY!!!!!

gloveofpower

You know, I realize that built-in flashes pretty much suck, but they can also be really handy to have when you need just a bit of fill. It's really disappointing to me that Canon didn't add a built-in (as on the Nikon D700). There are times that I want to just attach a versatile zoom lens and carry the camera around without having to also tote an external strobe. Sigh.

MikeK

My god, Canon is back.

VakeroRokero

I took a look at the specs on the canonusa web site and am somewhat confused. They confirm the obvious for a camera of this level, that it has a full frame sensor; however they then indicate that it has a 1.6 effective multiplier, as with the smaller sensor models. I'm hoping that this is just an erroneous oversight.

aventheusiast

No weather sealing has sealed the deal for me. I will either buy a 5D MK1 and save money (More megapixels mean nothing really) the other features are nice, but not for that price. Or research a good weather sealed Nikon.

ShriHumphrey

So I guess I'm one of the only unhappy fools. My 1DsMarkIII just took a major hit on the resale value. Why oh why did Canon chip directly into their 1D line like this?

On the bright side, now we can see superhigh megadetail in those mediocre shots of our pets & stuff

Pezmanb

The lack of information re the 'new' sensor is disconcerting. The PR says it's the same as the flagship 1ds3, which means it doesn't have the gapless microlenses that the 50d has. If this is true...boo

cpthook

The non-information re the 'new' sensor is disconcerting. The PR says it's the same tech as in the flagship 1ds3, which means it doesn't have gapless microlenses ala the 50d. If that's indeed the case, boo.

cpthook

5D only does 30 fps. D90 does 24 fps at 720p. If they can only delivery 0-60 fps at 1080p then you can start to make movies with it. Just 24 fps at 1080p would be a good start.

bigbaddaddy

*drools*

KLanD

No seriously, how large will one image file be? Anyone have an estimate based on 5d Mark I?

Ike_Skelton

@gre9del:

and

squeaky toy of the whatever...

Glad about the mic. But the video output is likely to be much more compromised than people are assuming - it's not just a question of multiplying the sensor's still capacity by 29.77 (or 25, as we say in Europe and Australia).

The market for the stills bit of the camera is pro-sumer. Probably not true of the video bit.

As said, glad if I'm proved wrong again.

xThadd

@photophile: Who cares about the pixels. Shooting video using EF lenses is the major factor here. If I were shooting using a standard definition XL2 and compare it to a Sony Handycam HD, I would still get better creative quality out of the XL2.

ripfire

Or based on a more comparable size I guess.

Ike_Skelton

@ShriHumphrey: Actually my hunch was right. This body does have weather sealing (per dpreview). The way the flash mount was situated is what hinted at the possibility of weather sealing. It is designed to work with the weather sealing of the 580EX II flash.

[www.dpreview.com] <-- Description and illustration of the weather sealing

spaceman37

I hope video in D-SLRs dies a very quick and horrible death and that goes for the D90 as well.

It's pointless. Now we're going to have microphone wars, and then the flash hot shoes are going to get complicated because they'll stick contacts on them to allow shotgun-mics to "improve the sound" blah blah blah.

At a basic level, even the ergonomics of a D-SLR are wrong for a video camera. Pretend anyone is going to hold it up and record 90 minutes of video. Bring on the next round of useless feature creep and let cameras be cameras.

Maxwells_Nylon_Hammer

This is very exciting news for me... and I'm a Nikon shooter! Maybe it's wishful thinking this early on, but I'm hoping the competitive pricing of the 5D Mark II will force Nikon to lower prices on the D700. Even though the D700 is more expensive, I'd still want it over the 5D Mark II because of its 51 AF assists, built in flash commander for remote strobes (I don't need triggers because I'm not that far along yet), and Nikon's attention to ergonomics which you can't appreciate unless you've shot with both. I can't wait to check out the 5D Mark II though which I'm sure will be a fun camera to shoot with.

dissonance

I believe Sony already has a HD cam out with CMOS sensors by they way...3 of them over 3 CCD...not as good in low light though, but a nice image when well lit.

I've been shooting on my 5D for about 2 and half years so this is good news. Sold my backup 30D and now just can't decide if I'll trade in my current 5D for a 50D or have a 5D backup to my MKII...

Paul

pcypert

Good thing i had my chin strap on ... it would have hit the floor. Simply amazing.

VSGinc.

Don't like the back, reminds me too much of my first D30. Wish their higher-end "prosumer" cameras would borrow more from the 1Ds line.

ghmlco