@DW:
I'm holding on to a filled-to-capacity 30GB iPod until the day that the Zune becomes Mac compatible (hopefully the 120 GB on Tuesday PLEASE MICROSOFT)

hatboysam

@Ken_Darrow:

My Sansa has a radio on it and I find it handy if I'm out and I want to hear the weather update or the news, or if I'm tired of my own music and would much rather listen to John Tesh.

Kirk Douglas

"Specifications section
o Capacity:8GB
o Digital Storage Media: Hard disk drive - built-in"

Is this a mistake? It's 8GB but not flash based?

MTVAH

@mordecaidrake: There won't be an iPod killer anytime soon since too many people are entrenched in the product. Some day Apple will run out of new ideas (sooner rather than later it seems) and when there are nothing but color updates year over year they will eventually go south. Until that day though there will be people who want nothing to do with iPod for one reason or another (mine is unlimited ala-carte music for one low price, 99 cents a song FTL.) But iPod will still be king for a while, even while most other manufacturers have at least one feature that is better.

boo_radley32

I like the idea of tagging the songs that you hear on FM radio and then buying them later. Although there is one flaw to this feature:

Everything on the radio is CRAP!

I guess I'm stickin' to my iPod.

11hawkinst

Wow that is fugly.

William Hook

@DW:

Honestly, I wish Apple would put XM or Sirius on their iPod's.

yoshi

@Ken_Darrow: Well, some HD radio stations just got iTunes tagging and there's an "iTunes Song of the Day" commercial that plays each day on 101.3 Indie each weekday, so I'm guessing that at least SOME iPod users listen to the radio in the digital age (or else, Apple's just wasting their money on ads, too).

That was all sarcasm. Of course people listen to FM radio, silly! Even if it's only to connect to the television in the gym.

DW

I need more COW BELL!!!

yoshi

ipod killer? =p

mordecaidrake

Microsoft is proving the Zune as a powerful device. No one on here can say that they wouldn't LOVE to have many of these features on the iPod (including myself). I'm a music person first when it comes to my DAPs. That said: Come on, Apple. Give me some awesome MUSIC features! The song sharing in and of itself is totally awesome and would be an awesome feature for them to steal/borrow from Zune.

On the other hand, it's interesting that Zune isn't trying to compete with the iPod by holding "Make Big Announcement" Events. I did read on Cnet that a MS spokesperson confirmed that the features would be rolled out over the period of weeks. I wonder why they aren't trying to make a big splash with an hige event like Apple. Or perhaps they will. Who knows? (But the cats out of the bag now.

Also, is the "requirements" section empty because it's going to be Mac-compatible? :-)

DW

I don't know. These features are pretty lame. Who listens to Radio anymore. Teenagers?

vgart

Well now we know why it wasn't announced the same day as the Apple event. Nothing much to go on.

Ken_Darrow

Meh.

PC+Mac Coexist

Thats it? Thats new? A bunch of useless features no one would ever use? FM radio for the digital age? LOL

Ken_Darrow

I wonder if this will be another software upgrade for all the zune flavors or if I'll have to upgrade to an 80 or 120? Either way, cloud is awesome and so is the radio tagging (built in, no need for an expensive head unit, eat that apple).

boo_radley32

God dammit. I have an 80g model and it's black. I wish it was blue....

Jeice

I hate that pointless black border around the screen. Just replace that with more screen! I have a disease and my only cure is MORE SCREEN!

daftrok

i like the new features, they couldve done better with a color.

Sims2Lover24

Pretty cool.

Evangelion

OMG these features are frieken awesome I can't wait to get the new update for my 80gb and 8gb. My bro is planning on getting a 120gb, but i don't need the new hardware. Maybe next year if the blue Zune comes out in 32gb, I'll replace my 8GB red, but i don't see myself needing a new upgrade from my 80gb until it gets worn out. But this software is going to be AWESOME!

Sam_Zebian

@FredicvsMaximvs:

Depends on how ya want to share and how you want to experience your music. You can subscribe to a Zune Pass (unlimited music subscription for $15/month) and sharing really opens up. You can subscribe to friend feeds, otherwise known as Zune Cards (8 favorite songs, 8 most recently played, 8 most played artists for the month). Or you can share songs (comes with the 3 plays rule, a song/playlist will stay with you until you play it your third time) personally with someone else with a Zune.

Jander

I wonder why Microsoft doesn't sell these in every country? They've never come to New Zealand

TailsNZ

@Kirk Douglas: Who's John Tesh?

Eh, I looked it up. What radio station would play stuff anyway. Geeeeeez..

Ken_Darrow

...and how does the sharing thing work? Is it seriously going to let me copy an mp3 to my friends device (assuming I still have any after being seen in public with it)?

FredicvsMaximvs

'K, so I'm thinkin' the Zune is looking kinda hot these days. What are the down sides? If I buy music from the Marketplace, am I only "licensing" it? Is the Man going to keep track of my every movement if I buy one of these things?

FredicvsMaximvs

Gosh they couldn't even do blue right.

MrHaroHaro

@videoCWK:

I know, sucks. I boot camp the software, virtualization options are a little too slow for me still. I know the Zune team really has no great need to add Mac support the way Apple needed to add Windows support, but the Zune team has a little edginess in them, just wish they'd just say screw it, doesn't make sense, but we're gonna pick off the few thousand who own Macs that would love to use a Zune instead.

Jander

One word....Awesome!!

I just hope these features are rolled out to all users so i can use them on my 80 giger!

pradster

Am I missing something? When exactly are these coming out? I keep seeing "spotted here" and "spotted there". Is it officially out at Fry's? Is it supposed to be out this week? I can't confirm as there are no Fry's within several states of me, and Best Buy knows nothing. kthx.

triggerx

But still no Mac support.

videoCWK

I remember that that playlist beaming was something advertised [in theory] for the original.

I might pick this one up. My Zune 30 is too large to carry around in my pocket (comfortably), especially since all I'm going is running to classes.

.endejas.

@diabolusunknownTheSecond: Because its the Zune Marketplace... nothing compelling about that crappy feature. So you can access it wirelessly...thats about it.

Ken_Darrow

Is there going to be a firmware update to include all different versions of the Zune?

I just spent money on a 30gb. I dont really have the funds to but a new one.

:(

baconfrenzy

I'm glad they acknowledge that FM radio isn't dead yet. I need my local public radio wherever I go. Wifi spots are still too, um, spotty.

ThaiGrocer

Device to Cloud
o Access thousands of wireless hotspots around the country to automatically update your collection, browse Zune Marketplace, refresh Channels, exchange favorites with friends, or buy songs you've tagged from your FM radio.

Did everyone miss this? Zune marketplace on the device. Or are you just choosing a feature to talk about that you dont give a shit about just so you can insult it, like the radio?

diabolusunknownTheSecond

@MrHaroHaro:

What it's not easter egg blue? C'mon, I happen to love the deeper colors. Still, color preference is relative. Whatever floats yer boat.

Jander

you know how zune can get more market? Take apples smartdock. Who cares if they sue, made for iPod is an enourmous market, and a big reason why alot of people buy iPods, I can't go to walmart and buy a zune alarm clock.

chorx

@snitch29: I would agree that Mac support is necessary. It would show that Microsoft is trying to reach to Mac users. As it is, it is a very anti-Apple product.

One thing they could do is make it Linux compatible. That would be a first for this type of product.

diabolusunknownTheSecond

Honestly, if there were mac support, I would probably buy a Zune. I used one at Best Buy and really dug the interface. But then a Geek Squad employee tried to charge me pair the display model and told me if I didn't then it would break and Microsoft's warranty just wouldn't cover accidental display model damage! ;)

Ethan Halko!

@Ken_Darrow: I read one page of your previous posts. Your oppinion is meaningless and skewed. Anyone else?

diabolusunknownTheSecond

There will never be Zune support for mac users, Never, this is the last thing in microsoft's mind right now, why???? cause why wold they make it compatible so 1/2 of the customers can be mac users who also run back to itunes and grab there tunes???? The zune is more aim at the very few antiapple fanboys, and that # really little, that's why they only manage to ship 2 million unit's in about 2 years. People just want a PMP that works and that if something goes wrong, you could get it swap with a new one over the counter, that's why i prefer the iPod, i just don't have the time to ship things back and forth and waiting weeks for a replacement

snitch29

Why would I not buy a touch???

BiZarRroBALlmeR

In other news, my 30GB Zune is still rockin, but a 32GB flash one would probably drive me to upgrade. Here's to progress, Zune team!

whiteknight89

No one seems to acknowlege the progress here.

Zune now has GAMES and BETTER WI-FI

I believe the zune, with just a few features, could even knock off the iTouch.

Cursemaster0

@Ken_Darrow: You sir, are a complete tool. Please remove yourself from the gene pool.

whiteknight89

Didn't the Zune Guy say that Zune is dead and he went out a purchased an iPod? I wonder if he had the tattoo removed from his arm yet?

mrtech

<3 zune

ZetaCrossfire

@boo_radley32: This is all software stuff, so it should be made available to all existing Zunes -- even my original Zune 30.

Rhainor

what the zune really needs is a touch screen...until that happens im not even thinking about buying one

ndziotog

but the zune guy said microsoft was abandoning the zune, guess he'll have to get another tat to make up for it

gg101

Hm... the Zune is slowly getting there. I don't know what's wrong with it. I just don't want one for some reason. I want a new nano!!! lol and a radio adapter. Dang I can't wait until tuesday, excited.

And a touchscreen Zune would be amazing.

Adisah

@BiZarRroBALlmeR: A fucking subscription model would put alot of people over the edge for the touch (if not the jesus phone), but APPL would need to renegotiate all their contracts with the industry... We'd probably see that shit coming miles away.

I do think that the wireless and subscription make this waaaaay better than the nano, but I dont think it holds a candle to the Touch just yet either from the software side or capacity side.

ALT

What more do you people want? Everyone complained about how wi-fi was a waste, and now there are actual FEATURES that make use of the hardware!

@vgart: Radio is honestly the best thing about the Zune (and Sansa, Zen, etc.). It is unfathomable that Apple has not yet been called out for continuing to leave that feature out. I have a flash Zune and have to be choosy about which songs I put on there - as a result, sometimes I just want to listen to radio (and the reception is pretty good). If I didn't have radio, how would I keep up to date with new songs? Now I can TAG them!

@MrHaroHaro: Are you blue colorblind or something? Looks perfectly fine to me.

@BiZarRroBALlmeR: Price?

Seriously, I'm sick of this Zune bashing from people who clearly have never used one. These features might not be mindblowing, but they are indeed impressive additions that should alleviate any doubts the Zune Guy had about Microsoft's dedication to the project. Also, we have to keep in mind that it's all free for every Zune owner - essentially we just keep getting more than what we paid for, which can never be a bad thing.

drewkkake

@BiZarRroBALlmeR: wrong post!

hindsight2020

really nice!
i wish they release a 32gb flash

keyjey

@whiteknight89: That's.. rude. What he was saying was quite a bit more compelling than what you're saying..

Ethan Halko!

Haters of the Zune Marketace?

The ZMP does what it should do. Give music and video (and podcasts).

I mean, iTunes isn't even really that good, so, they're all just remotely acsessed music servers.

Cursemaster0

Remember these are just some of the features of the Zune player that were written on the side of the box. I expect to hear more about Zune software enhancements and a little more about the Zune player itself.

danielsmi

@drewkkake: Terrific post, and excellent points. I don't quite understand the need to bash a consumer product that people haven't used. An objective comparison of where the Zune was two years ago and where it is now shows that it's a far better device and a much better value. And, as you said, if you bought the Zune 30 (especially at $99, like many of us did), you continue to come up roses.

I'm excited about the integrated Zune Marketplace (can I subscribed or update podcasts from there? Wouldn't that be something?) and the updated games features. The Zune continues to impress.

DGUW

I love some of the new features for Zunes, but what they really need is to replace the current software. I swear to god, that it is the one thing that is making me regret my Zune purchase.

And I do have to agree, accessing the zune marketplace wirelessly isn't that great considering how much it sucks...

Jeice

Make the 80GB/120GB Zune blue, and I'll give apple the finger.

ViewtifulJason

@Jeice: I like the software a lot. It took about a week of getting used to but I love it now.

I can't wait till the rest of us get these updates. Best part about the Zune.

I totally agree with the other comments on here. There really is no point bashing it. The users tend to like it just fine.

egyptomix

@diabolusunknownTheSecond: You don't need to be an Apple Fanboy to not like the Zune. I dislike each equally.

Kspraydad

I truly love these Zune posts. The short attention spans of Apple Fanboys assure that by the bottom of the comments section, the people that actually should be commenting on this story are commenting.

I cant wait for native support for Zune games. Ive been playing quite a few of them on www.zuneboards.com and they are all fantastic. Theres so much potential in XNA games, and the attachment and versioning of XBOX Live games to Zune games. It will be a few years, but soon the Zune will mold into a viable gaming platform.

What i was really hoping for were 640x480 screen on the 120 and video out on the 8/16. I could really use a beater flash player, which i could hook up into my car's video in port. The 80 works, but sometimes, i would prefer something smaller.

And im really hoping for a WM Zune client. That would basically be a replacement for the 8/16 option.

diabolusunknownTheSecond

Only Chubby Lovers need apply apparently.

Jackson the Narcisisst

This is all nice and everything...

oh right.. Tuesday.. nevermind

lucky_you

@ab3: Note to self learn to spell/check grammar...

ab3

I'm sick of people saying the Zune is so good. The Zune sucks, people only like it because they are losers that want to "go against the trend" and get an iPod. On a more objective note, the interface is horrid and is a pain to use along with the software. Probably one of the worst purchases I have ever made. Not to mention the Zune is just plain ugly (the blue is a little better though). Microsoft, stick to making reliable video game consoles, o wait you can't do that either. Then stick with your operating syste...wait nope. Wow I just realized that Microsoft has failed miserable in the past few years. The 360 sucks (the games are the only thinging keeping that piece of crap afloat), the Zune only sells a fraction of what Apple sells for iPods, and Vista had to be one of the most hyped-up flops in software history. Keep up the good work Microsoft!!

/ducks

ab3

Bye bye ipod. I currently have a zune 8gig and an ipod nano 2nd gen (for running with nike+). My wife also has an ipod classic. She's been bothering me to get a new Zune so I can give her my old one. She's sick and tired of Apple's bullshait and loves the zune. I greatly enjoy listening to NPR live on FM while riding the train in the morning, or if they're not doing it for me, I listen to my music or watch a movie I stored. These new features will prompt me to buy one of the 120 units, and in turn my wife will get a 'new' zune to replace her crappy ipod. Apple better announce something big, or else they're getting the boot in this household.

geekpi

@Kaiser-Machead on the Edge: *big* romper room font...sheesh

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

What's truly unfortunate about the FM radio is that, while it's nice to have, FM radio is complete fucking shit. So many ads, so many repeated songs, I can honestly say that I will never use an FM radio ever again. That said, iPods should still have them. Some people actually like this complete fucking shit. With the exception of the aforementioned NPR, it's a wasteland out there.

@ab3: I have to disagree on the interface. I actually think that it's not bad. My only complaint about it is that gib romper room font that they use on the home display. It shouldn't be so large that a few menu items run off the display. Another problem is that they don't seem to change contrast with the background you set.

Other than that, I found the device's interface pretty fluid and easy to use. Once you get the hang of the twist, it's a comfy transition. Another thing that the Zune has that the iPod is in serious need of is a reassuring mount and dismount. You don't have to worry about prematurely disconnecting your Zune, because it won't corrupt like an iPod can (eventually if you do it too often). It's pretty reassuring.

However, the tradeoff with this is no external disk support, and no TRUE manual syncing. I hate the fact that I can't manage the content on the Zune like I can on the iPod. I can't rename tracks and rearrange data.

The software is not bad, but I personally find it ugly. The themes available are not my cup o' tea, but it's livable. I wish Microsoft just threw in a feature with their UIX architecture that allowed me to just set my own background "out-of-the-box".

I think it still has a long way to go before it can make me consider it again, but so far it's a solid offer compared to the likes of SanDisk and Creative.

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

@ab3: For me, navigating through the Zune interface is logical and pain-free.

I came upon owning a Zune because of three things:

1. Hardware - This thing is rock solid. I've dropped it plenty of times and there's nothing but a small scratch near the top-right corner. Plus, the screens on the new, second gen, Zunes are amazing.

2. Not iTunes - Pain in the ass. Even the Zune 1.0 software handled better than iTunes. And the damn thing couldn't edit metadata.

3. Timing - I was a little pissed with my iPod Nano (1st Gen) bending in the center. The battery life sucked. Honestly.. I couldn't get more than 3 hours. MS came out with the Zune right when I was in the market for a new player, and they got my vote.

Something that disappointed me with the Zune was that it is what it is. It's a music player. It didn't have those little neat surprises that Apple built into its iPods. Maybe I had followed it so closely that I wasn't surprised by anything, but it did everything well.

Now, my Zune 30 is updated into a new firmware, and it looks like there's a new version on the way. The Zune software is miles ahead of where it started. It's honestly gone from my least favorite part of the Zune to the feature that I can't live without. WMP11 and Songbird are nice, but damn Zune's got a nice handle on things now.

.endejas.

@FredicvsMaximvs: Just like iTunes, if you buy songs it has DRM. BUT the Zune Marketplace also DOES sell MP3 non DRM music! And the Zune Pass, nothing beats that. For $14.99 a month you get complete access to the Zune Marketplace (99.9%) free.

nXt

But I left with so much more.

joebobfunguy

I just hope they have more than one colour in the 120 GB zunes, although i still have 20 gigs left in my 80 the 120 looks temping.

I'm all smiles Christmas came early again, new features and mac fan boys are pissed.

wetworker

Last black friday the wife and I camped out at Toys R Us, and they were selling those 80 GB refurb zunes for like 80 bucks (ala woot). There was literally a push fight with screaming and clawing when a lady tried to sneak in front when they opened. Best lines ever: "Don't push me Bi*ch I'm pregnant!", "I'm pregnant, too!". I was there for the pirate train set.

joebobfunguy

I just noticed that certain songs like Christina Augilera's Beautiful are currently Free on Zune Marketplace. Check the Top 100 Songs... no worries about getting charged later as this account doesn't have a CC attached.

LJKelley

mmmm....cloud.

sexyrobot

Great addition to a great device. I love my White 30GB Zune and my BF loves his Black 8GB. I truely do love the UI on the device. Games are an awesome addition, I hope there becomes a store on the marketplace for them.

The only negativity right now is the Software on our computers tends to hog the CPU. Any update that tamed this would really make me like Zune 100%.

LJKelley

@Ken_Darrow: Uhh Device Cloud, you can Browse the Zune Marketplace and BUY songs you tagged via the FM Radio. Not interesting???? Can the god iPhone do that? F no. Not even the iPod Touch can do that either.

nXt

Whoa those ideas sound original! Haha just kidding. I have gained respect for the Zune when they re-released it. But, the iPods are still on top.

qwertyfreak69

Im sure new iPods will kill it in a day. All those useless features gotta go.

vgart

what's a zune?

NCMO

the next ipod nano is going to look like the zune. isn't that weird from apple???

Bodypainter

@Crash Override 777: still not a good commenter.

yesthisisapc

Me too....

altus

I love it. They give you the zune store on the wifi link and people whine. Take your ipod to the a hot spot and buy music with it.

Oh. Wait.

H8ers. Lol. Zune uber alles.

And it'll be a free firmware update for existing users too I bet. Suck it apple fanbois.

commentotron

Still not an iPod...

Crash Override 777

@nXt: Because you said FM radio. What normal human being can stand to listen to FM radio for more than 30 min. By the time I force myself to go through the 8th commercial I'm ready to up chuck. FM radio.... so so old... Pandora is the way to go.... Simplify is simply killer also...

Ken_Darrow

@Ken_Darrow: A large amount of people listen to FM radio. You'd be surprised. Remember, we (meaning: myself included) tend to think inside of our own little worlds. The average person doesn't read tech blogs and have never heard of Pandora or Grooveshark, etc.

Top 40 is the biggest selling music largely due to radio sales. Apple uses Coldplay and U2 in their television ads because it's what so many people like. Apple has commercials on FM radio stations (like Kiss 100 in LA) because that's where the listeners are. If I don't necessarily like much Top 40 music/radio stations, so what? I'm not a good representation of most of the world. However, the FM radio feature is very useful to most. Remember that Katy Perry of "I Kissed a Girl" fame and The Pussycat Dolls are in the Top Selling acts in the iTunes Store right now. They are FM radio superstars!

P.S. It's actually even useful for those who don't listen to mainstream music, also. I can't count how many times I'm listening to my college station's somewhat obscure music and think "Who the heck is that? I want that song."

DW

@nXt: Incorrect, iPod touch and iPhone users through the Last.FM app can create radio stations based on an artist - it creates a playlist of similar artists (based on the style/genre of that artist you created) and allows you to tag and download music direct through iTunes) from the "cloud" via WiFi or 3G on your iPhone.

Vestan_Pance

@Jander:

Just to clear that up, it's ZunePass is an even better deal because you can share it among 3 Zunes so it works out to $5/month per Zune. I'm a "Zune Broker" for quite a few of my friends, and charge them $6 a month...and most pay for an entire year in advance = free loan + profit for me!

It would be nice if Music Videos were added to the Pass program, however...

RedwoodFlyer

@RedwoodFlyer:

Ah yeah, one of the better aspects of the Pass that not many know about. You can share the cost, and distribute the unlimited goodness down three ways. It was a year in till I tried the Pass, and discovered I could use it on up to three computers and three Zunes, so I let some members of my family use it on their computers. That sold a couple Zunes right there. The Pass is fantastic for families, great for friends who want to share the cost and benefit from the service. Cool thing about the Zune service is it ends up becoming inclusive, kind of like how cell plans work (unlimited calling between users of the same network).

Everybody made fun of the ol' Welcome to the social phrase and wifi sharing when the Zune first came out, and it *was* stupid if that was all it had been, but the Zune team had far more in mind than passing temporary songs to random users, tip of the iceberg now that I've seen what they've done two years in, with the Social site, subscribing to friend feeds, sharing Passes, and now sharing favorite tracks from your Zune from anywhere from the cloud. That's damn cool.

Come to find out, that Welcome to the Social tagline was serious. It really was a welcome mat to a bigger idea. And yeah, hope video makes it on the Pass too, think it'll work well with video actually.

Jander

@videoCWK: Mac support?? Microsoft doesn't even support their own feaking OS'...i'm sure this thing still doesn't have support for the x64 versions of XP and server 2003.

leaverus

@leaverus: iTunes isnt supported before 10.3 anymore. That was released in 2003.

xp64 was a failure of a consumer OS for Microsoft, and Server 2003 is extremely old. Sometimes, you just have to let go.

diabolusunknownTheSecond

"Send your favorite songs, albums, playlists, pictures and even audio podcasts freely between any Zune® devices."\
no limitations? yay!

jewsrock

The blue Zune looks pretty nice. I didn't really like the old blue 2G nanos so if Apple goes back to that color blue, I'll end up buying the Blue Zune 8gb. Plus I like listening to the radio and the idea of wireless synching.

dark_quota

@Jander: Dude I have to agree with Mr.Haro; it looks like plastic trash... an Easter Shit Brick if you will.

On the software side, sure a lot of the features encourage "sharing," but first you have to find people who own the device and be willing to pay for any subscription service. Truth be told people who buy pmp's other than iPods tend to be of the illegally downloaded variety.

And to the folks who've mentioned xm/sirius radio tagging for iTunes/iPod, I think that's more xm/sirius appealing to iTunes owners than the other way around.

enosone

Dallas Cowboys Fans rejoice.

sharmanova

@sharmanova: ?! Oh, the color.

It's true; you could sell poo on a stick if you could somehow work the Texas state flag onto it. ;)

(Fred, in Dallas)

FredicvsMaximvs

@Jander: Edge and camp are pretty much the same anymore.

willyboy

Sweet updates. Can't wait for these to hit my 80. Might finally subscribe to Zune Pass. I love my Zune, and this will make it even better.

TurboFool

I use the radio feature every Saturday during College football season.

Hyruu

Device to Cloud, Buy From FM (in conjuction with the ZunePass), and Channels. Damn, that's pretty sweet. Good thing those features will be free and available for my 30GB Zune.

How do iPods update their firmware to the latest features? ;p

witnessx

There's nothing I don't like about my Zune. Radio for NPR, traffic, and new music. Great screen, light smooth software. New features every year. Awesome.

Xenocide

It all sounds awesome. Glad that MS is still fighting for this device, albiet not a swiftly as some would like. Nice to see Zune people on here as well.

Vidic15

"• Supported Digital Audio Standards: WMA, AAC, MP3"
Ogg yet?

kanon

"Zune® Players now come with a selection of fun free games to choose from"

fun-free games, yay!

Someone needs a COMMA!

Valicore

Let's see apple try to top this!

3eyes

It seems like they've added some innovative features. If the software is not buggy, this Zune will be better than the iPod touch - that is, until Apple finally gets back on track...

vandy1997

I am seriously impressed with these new features! I was planning on buying a new iPod when Apple releases the new one on the 9th, but now I may actually have a tough decision on my hands! Besides, I am loving that blue! It matches my car :D

I really hope iTunes 8.0 includes a subscription like the Zune Pass. I think that feature will make or break the deal for me!

I guess we will see come September 9th! ;D

XBudd