Zune > iPod

wazups2x

@Groggy Banana: Did you notice that the Pink Ranger has a cod piece too?

myotheralt

I see Mr. Roy G. Biv has visited Apple and molested several of their workers....

nocturnus

I want an IR iPod.

myotheralt

Took me a second but nice.

robpruitt

You know, they know.

REVENGE TIME!

Groggy Banana

I have a current Zen. It's pretty great and has more feature than the nano for a cheaper price.

toolverine

WOW! You mean Creative invented colors!? Who knew?

nightsky

Man I hated the controls on that Zen. The ZVM will always be the greatest Creative player I've ever used, though I haven't used the new X-fi yet.

Kaiser-Machead on the Edge

Anyone who complains about the abundance of apple news is retarded. Plain and simple. You clicked on the news story!!! Ignore it if you don't like it..

...but, who are you trying to kid. You do like it, don't you. Why else would you click it and read it. Its because all you 'apple loathing' whiners secretly like reading about this stuff.

ferrdidly

@gothamdarkknight:

I think its GizzyModos™ attempt to show they are not bias (pro Apple) on every post

but I think this is silly and pointless

Sam43054

Good artists copy, great artists steal.

Joseph

This is suuuch an informative article, I shall bookmark it. I think they got'em from the color wheel though, y'know like in photoshop? As you know Apple is the first company to release a product in different colors :P

cowpop

i don't know what the big deal about the fm tuner is? is not the idea of the portable mp3 player that you control the music and not some commercial laden radio station?

boofighter

HAHAHAHAHA

andthepickles

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Wow at all these pointless ipod/apple/teh steve articles.

gothamdarkknight

Yea, those fuckers think they invented colors. Screw the visible light spectrum I say.

hotmeatinjections

Oh shit, AND the ZEN Micro has an FM Tuner. Eat that Apple! ..Seriously, not having an FM Tuner in an MP3 player is a deal breaker for me.

Ike_Skelton

Apple said on the CNBC interview the iPod nano 'fatty' was liked but not 'loved' .....that people gave feedback that they like the long & narrow format .... I think they are after more market share. You have to keep in mind Apple has sold some 160 million iPods..... each year it's going to be hard to not only sell as many iPods as last year but sell MORE

Sam43054

lol, I knew Creative was capped for a reason. On a side note, that X-fi player rapes. (that means good, I swear)

Substance_D

also: 2500 songs, removable 12hr battery, fm radio, feels, looks and plays like a brick.

robot-shmobot

I saw a quote on the giz the other day for the PSP: (paraphrased)

"When a product receives new colors, it is at the end of its device lifecycle."

I'm holding this to be self-evident. This nano is fu-hu-gly.

shiftyeyedgoat

they are true graphic designers at heart.. they included magenta in the spectrum.. i shudder every time i see a colour spectrum and there's no magenta between purple and red

robot-shmobot

Haha,

from the Rainbow? No?

Derek Devine

@JCM1223: Maybe if they did a version of the colour sequence in the same order as the classic logo?

twilight-arc

Apple's pretty "creative" in the fact that they're very successful, and people still purchase their products. Does anyone even still own a Zen?

JustEaton

@tkohrs2002: yellow*

tkohrs2002

heh.

Pablos102030

the only new color is orange. The rest have been seen on either shuffles or 2nd generation nanos

tkohrs2002

Enjoy: [en.wikipedia.org]

twilight-arc

LOL, I didn't get the joke until I clicked on the article. Great punchline!

AJ_Syrinx

lolz.

This is very interesting Giz.

Cursemaster0

But this is a NANO, those are just micros. NANO get more news on giz!

Wess

Hell, even the Micro had an FM radio.

ViolenceMan

The colors are also very similar to Apple's old logo...

Teh JCM

yea, but those arent legitimate, or even respectable media players.

otis123

Funny, I had more this on my mind:

[mb.softbank.jp]

Ycare

now that you've gotten this out of the way, time to write about another for every other "new" feature announced yesterday.

jbhitter24

These are the standard YB colours, plus pink, black and silver.

[upload.wikimedia.org]

Leonard Nimrod

wow this is probably the single most incredible discovery ever!!!! "CREATIVE" created colors!!!!

actionofmann

Yea, I'm not sure when colors were invented, but I think both Apple and Creative owe us an explanation on this little bit of shenanigans.

hotmeatinjections

"Apple copy someone else's idea ?
Oh never... "

^Ditto

Gizmodo Is So Smart

caliaa

are you insinuating that Creative created the colors of the visible spectrum?

Average-Dudes

@DisposableInterloper: It's a joke, people, for your lulz.

matt buchanan

Apple copy someone else's idea ?
Oh never...

ai.scorp

Man, if this isn't flamebait on Gizmodo's part, I don't know what is.

Here's the thing though: it's great that there's more choice of color. So others had more before. It doesn't mean Apple copied them, especially considering the hues don't even really match up, and doubly so if you factor in, as others have noted, that these colors are basically Apple's retro logo color scheme.

On a more personal note, I can't decide between blue and orange. They're both my favorite colors, which makes this so hard. Input, anybody?

DisposableInterloper

@myotheralt: Good God... but wait.. so does the yellow one. For symmetry I guess.
Shucks, Apple copied even THAT!
Screw the revenge, it's time for a Mighty Morphin Lawsuit!

Groggy Banana

@paja:

Yep here are the colors

[www.apple-history.com]

Sam43054

FM radio?

every time i try and listen to the radio i miss my ipod.

i don't know what stations you guys get, but the ones here booooreee meeeee

endless

I don't think anyone has a patent on colors.

BTW didn't Apple have iPod Mini's and Shuffles in a wide range of colors.

I recall Apple had iMacs in a wide range of colors some years ago when just about every PC was a bland beige or a shocking black. Of course Gizmodo wasn't around then to piss on that.

paja

@ferrdidly:

I LIKE THE NEWS AND THE PRODUCTS, but every other post is new iPod touch and Nanos etc. don't get me wrong I'm a fanboy, but seriously. And you are right I DID click the article so touché! ;-)

Faslane66

Things I notice: there's no green Zen, and there's 2 white Zens.

Wtf?

Avielus

OMG THEY BOTH USED....COLORS?!?!?!?

"bring the lulz" is a stretch

tsvb

So Creative is color-blind. What's so funny about that? Geeze....

cyclonus5150

ahahahaha, well done sir.

Zing!

DestroyerMTL

ZEN AND ARCHOS! HAHA THOUGHT I WASN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING, HUH?!

daftrok

Thank you Gizmodo, for bestowing this article of great importance upon us all. Let us now bask in the wisdom of this article...(major sarcasm)

qwertyfreak69

There is absolutely nothing original about these new nanos. Everything is stolen from something (colors from micro, as you point out. design from zune), or recycled, which is everything that isn't stolen is just recycled from the ipod mini. Try again Apple.

TheDoomer

[www.wired.com]

Crash Override 777

So Microsoft has a patent on colors now? This is moronic.

Gafoto

Umm big difference, its not thick as a brick. Please the color used on these metal shells are much more sophisticated that piece of junk there. Also if you want to follow this theme, then who copied who? I remember seeing Gay Rainbow colors on cars way way back. ;-)

Ken_Darrow

I think these colors might be a mistake. Because it is going to be very hard to predict the right number of each color to produce. The result of failing to predict the right color means they are more likely to have too many of a certain color, which means left over unwanted colors. Left over colors will mean a loss to Apple as they try to unload those colors when the next update comes along. Maybe we can play a game predicting the color that will be last and left unwanted in the discount bin in about 9 months. I'm also predicting no updates for a longer than normal period of time because that will give them time to sell through the losers.

I'm probably buying the iTouch anyway. Winter is coming and with large coats and clothing to wear, the space saving of a Nano becomes less important than the added functionality of the iTouch. Price is basically the same for both of these products as far as I'm concerned. But I'll check them out in person at some point over the weekend and maybe I'll feel different once they are in my hand.

TallManNY

Took me a little to get it, but then I noticed the Creative image (mistook it for an ad at first :x).

Kymeira

Im surprised Apple didn't make an ad making the older logo out of these colored nano. Even when you look at nano from top the curved shape looks like the leaf part of apple logo. ) GET ON IT Apple marketing team

vgart

Giz do your research before bashing Apple the iPod mini had colors like that before the Zen Micro was released... I had a blue iPod mini when it first came out.
[en.wikipedia.org]
[en.wikipedia.org]

Crash Override 777

@Ike_Skelton:

And just the fact that Apple's been able to sell 160 million iPods, none of which had an FM tuner built-in, pretty much proves that FM is not essential, and that Apple is smart to leave it out.

Dearhaw

OH NOES THEY COPIED THE RAINBOW?

Blinklink11

@matt buchanan:
Ah, but loud and bloodly flamewars between fanboys and haters can get really lulzy, wouldn't you agree? There's no doubt you did it for the lulz, but that doesn't preclude it being flamebait.

@daftrok:
Do you honestly have to spam every Apple-related article about how much better the half-assed competition is? Seriously, this is Gizmodo, and even the Apple haters love Apple here. I truly hope you get a disemvowelment.

DisposableInterloper

LULZ WHERE'S THE LULZ?!?!

There were a few other music players that match the colors on the iPod Nano a lot better...

The point of this article is...?

MICHAELSD

@DisposableInterloper:
Fuck you.

daftrok

I just think of the rainbow every time I see them all together...

ttech10

@Ike_Skelton: Not having an FM tuner is a deal breaker? Seriously???

If it had Sirius/XM on it would be nice, but so would be having some doughnuts too... mmmm...

quiksilver180

@Groggy Banana:

Hmm, you know, If you give them a whip and a spiked collar, that rainbow ensemble will really get some peoples juice going.

Ken_Darrow

@The Magnificen7: Sorry, I meant pink, not green.

The Magnificen7

OK, Giz, I'm fine with Apple coverage, it doesn't bug me, but this a pathetic attempt to appease some whiners. What about all the devices that used the iconic Apple white after the iPod was introduced? And just a tip, you CAN'T STEAL COLOUR! They have every colour of the rainbow up there (green replacing indigo), plus silver and black. Stupid post.

The Magnificen7

so insightful. i can't even believe this got posted to giz. um...have you heard of the rainbow? it was around long before creative (don't tell the rainbow lady though). time to step up your game guys.

chrisrosa

@Avielus: Are we looking at the same picture? I see a light green one, and a white one and a gray one that may be mistaken for a white one.

qwertyfreak69

I'm yet to see the new Nanos in person. But i've seen those creatives. They looked like an inkjet print left in the sun for 12 months.

And I always wonder why people want an FM radio in something that is ostensibly meant to be all about your music. Is it because your music is not enough like homogenised dog's leavings? You need a fresh, random dose of it to get through the day?

jbang

@Groggy Banana: Taste the rainbow indeed...(crap, did I say that outloud?)

@THE ALL CAPPERS: What's with the breakout of 1996 all over the place these days, with the FIRSTers and the All Cappers and trying to be the funnyboys and make it ironic with the Oh Noes and the whatnot...

Stop it, yo.

On a more serious note, I found this old picture of the iPod nano dev. team that may explain a few things.

92BuickLeSabre

Worth repeating for all you FM trolls:

Who needs FM Radio on the go when you have Podcasts without commercials and the Pandora app (assuming WiFi or iPhone)?

Radio is for:
1. your alarm clock
2. your shower
3. your car
4. your apartment
5. your boombox
6. your headset walkman
7. your desk/waiting room
8. your hold music
9. your kittylitter box
10. your gym

Radio is not for walking. BUT if you really need radio with you on the go, AND you want an iPod, of course there's the iPod Radio Remote. IF you want radio on the go, and you DON'T want an iPod, get a Zune.

Puhlease - STOP bitching about FM Radio and the iPod!!!

trendspotter

@DisposableInterloper: My immediate thought is that you are overly broad in the number of colors you consider your favorite. I'm afraid you must choose one. I understand... you love them both. But that's not what favorite is all about. Favorite is facing your own private "Sophie's Choice" and making the hard decision. Blue... orange... orange... blue.... It's not so much the color itself as much as the importance of wholeheartedly embracing one. It must be one. Then, and only then, will it truly be your favorite. And, as you bask in the radiant afterglow of unequivocal clarity, I believe you will find that you don't choose your iPod, it chooses you.

/go speed racer... Go!!!

frigg

@mmeister:

Maybe you should leave then, if you don't like it. No one's forcing you too look at these posts you know.

dead_red_eyes

iPod Nano Story: Gizmodo is So LAME!

The colors they picked. This is what you're focused on?
This site is going downhill fast.

mmeister

yeah i was attracted by the colors but im content with the zune i found

koeramco

Yeah, but the Zen ones are fugly.

Narfmaster

@boofighter: well, not all stations aren't about music. besides: i'm an estonian and last spring we had the crises with the soviet war monument and rioting crowds. it felt really good to have radio on my player so that i could tune in every hour to get the latest update (all that while drinking beer in a pub :)

ilmarine

@Average-Dudes:
Clearly not. The forgot green, and had two different shades of blue. That, and they couldn't figure out how to put them all in chromatic order.

Purple Dave

Weren't the very first coloured iPods very similar to a range of pocket radios from the 50s or 60s anyway?

I remember seeing a picture of such a product, a row of colourful small rectangular radios, an analogue interface front and top and a round speaker front and bottom.......now doesn't that sound familiar?

DelSource

@frigg:
Ah, but it's the contrast that matters. You cannot have light without shadow, yin without yang...

DisposableInterloper

@shiftyeyedgoat: not in this case, not on gizmodo's time...when apple uses multi-colored offerings, its innovation...can't you read? matt said "apple was the first to bring out five colors"

...that's innovation, man

...and they look better in the marketing shots

stupidjerk

worst news ever.

sibbe

The Zen has 7 colors (black, white and gray are not colors). The iPod has 7 colors. It's a tie. Everybody is a winner!*

*except those who actually bought a Zen

ObtuseGoose

it's all the colors of the rainbow and the obligatory black and silver (for those of us that hate all the colors in the rainbow).

so if they ripped off anyone it was Lucky the Leprachaun.

foolmartyr

Damn, i forgot the /tag/not:apple this morning.

asten77

I don't want to be captain obvious, but I think mother nature came up with Apple's color scheme before creative did by refracting light through water droplets...you know, a rainbow!

clearthumbtack

God should sue...

silence04

What good is a radio on an MP3 player?! Man I'm sick of this apple-fanboy response to ipods lack of a radio. It's called new music! I for one cannot afford to purchase every new album that comes out. I have an assload of music on my Zune80, but sometimes I wanna see if the local rock station is playing any good new music, or listen to a morning show. Having a radio in an MP3 player is not a bad thing at all, unless your corporation of choice refuses to, then it's for the knuckle-dragging luddites and commoners.

RobotVampire

@Ike_Skelton: Come on RADIO!!!!! Who listens to radio these days!!! What do you do to keep warm? huddle over a fire??? Radio a deal braker????

digicatz

You call that creative???
A 5 year old is that creative!!!!!

What would have been creative, if they made the entire surface touch, like the Iphone, and the backs colored. then it would be usable as a 16x9 movie viewer..

Loremaster101

@Groggy Banana: I thought the yellow ranger was a girl?

WHAT'S GOIN ON IN THOSE PANTS

nachobel

you can pretty easily find a slew of new music podcasts that will sync to your ipod ever week. there's also music blogs, etc. I for one don't think that listening to a radio while on the go is really the best place to discover new music anyways,

i tend to be more pro-active in finding what's out there and new rather than listening to the same bland 50 song playlist that most corporate radio has nowadays.

i guess you're right about the morning show thing though.

props_nyc

@digicatz: Some of us listen to public radio stations. Others listen to jazz or classical music on the radio. Still others listen to progressive and experimental music.

Here in NY, we have WNYC, a public radio station which also offers a BBC radio feed every morning. There's also WQXR which is NY's only all-classical music station which is respected nationwide for its playlists. Additionally, there's WFUV, NYC's leading college radio station.

There's also the benefit of getting weather, traffic, and news updates for free - which you can't get from a Genius playlist.

WTF?! Ponies!

@digicatz: well with this hurricane bearing down on Houston the radio on my Zune is going to come in handy... Weather reports public radio and news alerts.... for all your glitz and glamour and hype you lack essentials..

Cordfucious v 2.0.1

We won't point out that the only reason ZEN came out with 10 colors is that Apple had a few with their original MINI-now NANO ... so of course, Zen's response was:

ADD FM! - what people want is commercials and static!

If they can do 4 colors, by golly, we'll do 10!

Or in Zune speak - what colors haven't they done? Brown? Brown is Bill Gates shoe color! Delicious! Brilliant!

That's why some companies have 3% of the market.

jbelkin

FM is for losers who can't afford to own their own music.

Noobs-R-Us

There....I said it.

Noobs-R-Us

Zen doesn't even have GREEN!

Glare

@jbelkin: No-one can ever win, can they? But what is this? By your rational, Apple are just rip-off merchants of every manufacturer who made handheld music players before them. Suits me!

DelSource

@clearthumbtack: True. But someone also came up with the word "pod" long before Apple came along with their new toy, AND appended it to an electronic device linked to music (Line 6) before Apple. But that doesn't stop Jobs et al suing every company in the world who even think about using the name in their products - even those which have nothing to do with audio/visual electronics.

Indeed, Apple threated a small company with legal action after they called a product "Profit Pod". It was a freaking infrared data collection system for arcade machines! Yet Appple had no problem giving a new handheld device which plays music, video, displays internet, pictures etc etc the name "Touch". HTC Touch, anybody? Handheld device which plays music, video, displays internet, pictures etc etc. But the HTC is a phone people say? Yes, but the iPod is a music player and the Profit Pod was nothing remotely similar. And what about the Creative Zen "Touch"?

One rule for Apple, another for the rest of the world. And money buys good lawyers for dictatorial, messianic assholes. In this case and others, Apple are fair game I say.

DelSource

As others have noted, the original Apple logo included the colors of the rainbow. It's easy to see the link between the colors of the new Nano line and the original rainbow colored Apple logo. Now as for the Creative colors, what do they harken to? Is there some original Creative logo with all those colors?

beetlebug62