Gadgets
Student Develops Cheap Power Turbine For Developing Nations
Posted by Matt Hickey at 2:20 PM on August 20, 2008
It's one thing to tinker in your garage to restore that old gas-guzzling muscle car that you think will get you some action. It's something entirely different to invent an electricity-generating wind turbine out of scrap parts that could revolutionise personal power in developing nations, especially if you're in college. Max Robinson has done just that, designing a turbine out of spare parts that costs less than US$40 to build out of readily available parts and can power a home's lighting for up to two and a half days or a radio for over a day. No word on how long an OLPC would last. [Daily Mail]

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Jared
Posted August 21, 2008 10:17 AM
Great, another useless "energy efficient" waste of money. Here is an idea, let those developing nations mine there own resources. I am sick of people thinking that we need to help these people by giving them useless technology that wouldn't power a torch. If we take away the restriction that 1st world countries put on these 3rd world countries and let them mine their own coal etc. They wouldn't be in poverty.
Stupid greenies and global warming preachers ruin everything for everyone.
drewls
Posted 3:02 PM 20/8/08
Way to go! We can really keep the developing nations poor as hell if we relegate them to a radio and a nightlight. Can't have em 'destroying the planet' by actually developing...
drewls
Kingteddybear
Posted 2:58 PM 20/8/08
WTF! What did the house lighting consist of, a single 7-1/2 watt night light?
Kingteddybear
gizmodohomepage
Posted 2:57 PM 20/8/08
1000 amps like the stereo Benjiman Franklin invented in Family Guy.
gizmodohomepage
XDoctor
Posted 2:53 PM 20/8/08
Hell, lets all throw up three of them and let the electric company cut US a check every month.
XDoctor
Technogen
Posted 2:51 PM 20/8/08
There's also that windbelt turbine from a ways back, shame that these sort of things cant be just thrown up in the us, think every house proving 50% of its power....
Technogen
bosskev
Posted 2:49 PM 20/8/08
@yet_another_user: Perhaps the radio to which it refers is one like this:
bosskev
yet_another_user
Posted 2:42 PM 20/8/08
"can power a home's lighting for up to two and a half days or a radio for over a day."
That must be some radio!
My radio only needs 11 watts and I'm quite sure my homes lighting load is at least 50 times more than that depending on whats turned on.
yet_another_user
johnnyabnormal
Posted 3:33 PM 20/8/08
Damn. I think I'm just going to stock up on freeze dried food and a few good guns before peak oil gets worse...
johnnyabnormal
mildretard
Posted 3:22 PM 20/8/08
Nice science fair project, college boy. Now quit looking at me like you're disappointed.
mildretard
ltethe
Posted 3:12 PM 20/8/08
@drewls:
Or we can enable them to leapfrog us, so they can get a technologically advanced society while we're still cleaning the mess created by our lack of foresight.
ltethe
johnnyabnormal
Posted 3:52 PM 20/8/08
I'm actually quite impressed that some businesses in my field are going solar:
[news.bbc.co.uk]
[www.nickphoenix.com]
[universoulproductions.wordpress.com]
Maybe if they were using some wind as well, they wouldn't have to pull anything from the grid on cloudy days.
johnnyabnormal
danjuan
Posted 3:38 PM 20/8/08
I wonder how many of these turbines it would take to power my PS3?
danjuan
Neverkilled: zombiefied, in the summertime
Posted 4:28 PM 20/8/08
is it just me or does it seem like "students" keep creating several inovations for the world.
i mean maybe the future isn't so doo-
*meteor falls on house*
Neverkilled: zombiefied, in the summertime
Neverkilled: zombiefied, in the summertime
Posted 5:31 PM 20/8/08
Is that kid in smug mode or what?
Neverkilled: zombiefied, in the summertime
LittleJon
Posted 5:51 PM 20/8/08
@Neverkilled: zombiefied, in the summertime: He's hardly a kid. He's a 22 year old university student!
LittleJon
daftrok
Posted 6:25 PM 20/8/08
I fail to see the revolutionary part. You can make a windmill out of some wood fins and a plastic stand with a little generator and some wires for around 40 bucks no sweat.
daftrok
hardtoremember
Posted 6:44 PM 20/8/08
I'm gonna make me one. Of course no one will care because I am old and most likely crazy.
hardtoremember
wchurchill1945
Posted 7:34 PM 20/8/08
If it's a "generator", what happens after 2 1/2 days that will make the lights stop working??? Maybe the blades fall off....very confusing.
wchurchill1945
dave the wet sprocket
Posted 8:08 PM 20/8/08
how much force does it take to turn that bike rotor? is wind really necessary? because if he's found a way to run the world with hamster power...well...that'd be something.
dave the wet sprocket
dave the wet sprocket
Posted 8:05 PM 20/8/08
look for gm or exxon to snake the patent and bury it.
dave the wet sprocket
markarian
Posted 8:39 PM 20/8/08
I think the key is "Developing nations." There is nothing short of cold fusion that would be a viable alternative to the coal, hydro, and nuclear power we use to satisfy our tremendous appetite for power. My home pulls about 3000 watts at any given time. I don't think even solar would power that. That turbine wouldn't even charge a Cloudbook.
But for LED lighting and portable radios, it'd work pretty well. Might even charge an XO.
markarian
StarChaser Tyger
Posted 8:36 PM 20/8/08
He 'invented' something that Mother Earth News had in the magazine 30 years ago...
StarChaser Tyger
Z4N5H1N
Posted 9:37 PM 20/8/08
Wait, this seems wrong. Why would a wind turbine only power something for a short amount of time like that? Shouldn't it continue collecting wind power and generating electricity indefinitely?
Z4N5H1N
Knirfie
Posted 10:04 PM 20/8/08
Seems like a weird story. What about voltage/frequency conversion? Or batteries?
And 40 dollars for something that produces 11 watts seems really crappy. I think a small $40 solar panel even produces more energy.
Knirfie
uhm...Bob
Posted 9:53 PM 20/8/08
"and can power a home's lighting for up to two and a half days..."
That's a really weird way to measure electric output.
From original article: "It produces an output of 11.3 watts."
Though this is still vague (since we measure power delivery in
MWh and kWh), at least it gives us a specific number based on a standard measure.
Since this is a technology blog it would be nice to have technical details outlined within the body of the post. if further research or investigation is needed then please take they time do so.
uhm...Bob
UrbanAce
Posted 10:19 PM 20/8/08
So if you have a new bike to chop up, a machine shop, and a bunch of bike tools, it will only cost you $40 in materials to build a generator capable of powering a single CFL bulb. Huh. Where is the "invention"? It sounds like marketing to me, not inventing.
UrbanAce
higgy
Posted 11:03 PM 20/8/08
I guess the guys at greentrust.org have been doing it wrong all this time...
:)
The "kid" has only reproduced what amature radio operators have been playing with for 40 years :)
higgy
henhen
Posted 10:46 PM 20/8/08
looking at the pic...the gizmo that actuall converts the mechanical energy into electricity....is that round metal disk thing....
did he build that?
henhen
TheCapt
Posted 11:52 PM 20/8/08
@Knirfie: best I could find was a 6 watt for $35
TheCapt
subsider34
Posted 11:44 PM 20/8/08
@bosskev: How did you ad that pic to your comment?
subsider34
UrbanAce
Posted 12:16 AM 21/8/08
Those bike components should be good for at least 150 watts of throughput power. Why such a small rotor? Double the size of the blades and he would see a significant increase in generating capacity.
UrbanAce
Lev_Astov
Posted 12:32 AM 21/8/08
Yeah, there's something seriously wrong with this article.
Lev_Astov
Rabid Penguin
Posted 12:27 AM 21/8/08
@subsider34:

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Rabid Penguin
tabaks
Posted 12:51 AM 21/8/08
@johnnyabnormal:
Dude, you're SO right on that one it's scary!
tabaks
GeekyNerdGuy
Posted 12:46 AM 21/8/08
How long can it power the muscle car I built to get some action?
GeekyNerdGuy
toyotaboy
Posted 2:55 AM 21/8/08
11watts? pffft, nice try. At current solar prices, a solar equivalent would cost $33. If nanosolar ramps up, it would cost you $11 (less than this contraption even at high volume). Wind turbines aren't a bad idea, and can actually be more efficient than solar in windy areas, but this thing is horribly inefficient. I can buy a 400watt wind turbine for about $500 ($1.25/watt).
Quit your daydreaming melonhead
toyotaboy
Con Seannery
Posted 4:41 AM 21/8/08
My personal coal plant does just fine. I use the tears of children to run the turbine.
Con Seannery
daveNYC
Posted 4:32 AM 21/8/08
3Kw? Holy crap, I assume you have electric HVAC?
daveNYC
johnnyabnormal
Posted 6:14 AM 21/8/08
@tabaks: What, the peak oil or green audio studios?
johnnyabnormal
snowninja
Posted 1:55 PM 21/8/08
The hole is too deep. Little wind generator or not.
snowninja
gkoinm
Posted 6:31 AM 22/8/08
@henhen:
No he didn't make the generator. He just used an alternator from a car, the sprocket and chain from a bike and a propeller.
I'm guessing that he also used a car rectifier and charged a car battery. Then he figured out that the car battery would run 1 household lightbulb for 2.5 days or a radio for a day.
Seems more like an elementary school science fair entry to me.... Maybe I'm missing something.
gkoinm
FrankReality
Posted 2:24 PM 24/8/08
For a reality check, take a look at your electric bill and note how many kilowatt hours you used last month.
If that produced 11 watts 100% of the time, over a 30 day month it would provide 7.9 kwh. At my local utility rate of 11 cents per KWH, that would save a whopping 87 cents over the month. Of course, that 11 watts is most likely the peak power, so even that savings is insane.
Not even a good science fair project.
For the record, at current prices, the government agency that advises regarding such things claims small wind (< 25KW wind plants) aren't YET cost effective - you don't install them to save money, you install them because you want cleaner energy or your property is too far from electric lines or you want to do it as a hobby.
I've looked at it myself and they're right - the numbers don't work, yet. I've also looked at solar - same song, second verse. I have a perfect location for solar - a south facing roof on a machine shed and space inside the shed for the inverters, power management gear (and batteries if I wish to have them).
I'm waiting for a significant drop in the cost, or a significant increase in electric rates, or some long term tax credits or a combination of the three before I do solar or wind.
FrankReality