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Olympics Watching: Ultimate PC/HDTV Strategy Guide
Posted by Benny Goldman at 7:00 AM on August 12, 2008
The 2008 Olympics have begun, and now that we've had a few days to digest the coverage, we've found the best (and worst) things about watching the games online and on your TV. Those of us stuck here in America and not lucky enough to own Vista must deal with NBC's often delayed event broadcasts. Sure, if it's American basketball or track you're looking for, you can find everything you need without stepping away from your HDTV set. But if you've waited four years to watch table tennis or want to see how that Latvia-Angola rivalry plays out, you'll definitely have to use NBC's streaming online player. Here's a rundown of the tradeoffs between HDTV and NBC's online viewer, and some helpful tips to keep you from getting too mired in the programming.
AU: Nice to know what the US is bitching about, when all we have is Yahoo!7...
Viewing Experience
The Silverlight-based player runs well--even on a Mac--but its interface has a few rough spots. When it comes to content, there is no comparison--the web player will stream 2,200 hours of live video, where for most sports, only glorified clip roundups will appear on the actual TV. Quality is a different story, as you'd expect. The streamed video is blurry no matter what size you watch it in, even though its at 720x480--a far cry from full HD your TV can get. Also, while it's understandable that NBC wouldn't provide announcers on their streaming player for a North Korea vs. Nigeria soccer game, they don't have announcers for any USA sports online, even big ones like basketball. Watching games without commentary can be painful, believe me. One more complaint: PowerPC Mac users are left out of the experience altogether, as Silverlight only supports Intel machines. [Thanks, downbythetracks!]Advantage: HDTV - Watch as much as you can on TV itself, but be aware of the delays.

Finding Content
When it comes to searching for live broadcasts, neither the streaming player nor HDTV are helpful at all. The TiVo guide says which sports will be shown, but doesn't say if they are tape-delayed. To find that out, you'll have to sort through NBC's schedule, which displays "(LIVE ET/CT)" next to anything broadcast in real time. And sorry west-coasters; you're totally SOL when it comes to live HDTV—everything is shown for you on a 3-hour tape delay.
Then again, seeing the streaming player for the first time may tempt you to bust out the Rosetta Stone. It's actually three players in one, starting with the standard player which is stuffed with ads, tabs, lists, menus and more. For this one, you're best off browsing by channel (#1 in the pic up top), clicking the sport you're interested in and seeing what videos are offered. A button in the corner of the video section (#2) directs you to the enhanced player, which is the best way to watch--it's got a bigger video screen and is so frill and distraction-free even Frank Costanza would approve.
In the enhanced player, you can watch highlights (#3) and live content with picture-in-picture (#4), and swap between the two seamlessly. You can't search for content in the enhanced player, so you must find it elsewhere and switch over. Finally, a button on the left (#5) takes you to the "Live Video Control Room" which offers the most hyped way to watch the sports you crave--four-channel multicasting. Advantage: Streaming player - It's very convoluted, but you can't argue with the amount of content on demand.
The Multi-Cast Experience
Gambling junkies and cubicle drones alike will love the streaming player's multi-cast, which allows you to watch up to four events at once. For people trying to actually enjoy sports, the largest video is still too small to see a score, and the other three are barely the size of postage stamps. Swapping between games is easy, but if you expand one to the full-sized player, you lose your other streams, and have to to add them all over again when you return to the multi-cast. Also, sifting through content is unbearable; you can scroll through six videos at a time, but there are almost 200 up there right now, and there's almost two weeks of competition left. Furthermore, you really need to make sure what you're watching is actually live—even though the player looks like it is telling you what's live, the schedule sometimes contradicts this.
HDTV has a multi-cast of its own, and it's called "jumping from event to event". Kudos to NBC's Olympic editors—they seem to have an uncanny idea of when I get sick of gymnastics and want to switch over to volleyball. It's not perfect, but it's effortless and they do a good job with it. Advantage: Even - The streaming multi-cast is great in theory, but execution is pretty weak, though the ability to pick what you want to watch trumps HDTV.
Live Action
Figuring out what is live on TV is harder than figuring out what is live online. You generally have to read the fine print of NBC's listings to find out what TV programs will be aired live. Helpful hint: If it doesn't say live, then it's probably not live. However, one advantage to HDTV is that you may have access to dedicated live basketball and soccer channels, depending on where you live. I just saw it for myself, and it's not airing anything right now, but I have 12 hours of basketball to wake up to tomorrow and I haven't been this excited in weeks.
You can sign up for alerts of both online and TV events via text message or e-mail. Those alerts don't tell you which TV event is live. (On the flipside, alerts for online broadcast are mostly live, because otherwise they would already be available on demand.) The system sadly won't allow you to set a repeating event by team or sport, but if there are games you MUST see—like USA and Spain basketball for me—this is the safest way to make sure you catch it all.
As seen with the USA-China basketball debacle, NBC has no business delaying broadcasts for Pacific time. Thanks to the internet, this old broadcasting habit looks increasingly lame. After all, even those of us without the dedicated HD channels have TiVos and alarm clocks, right? Those who were shut out are not totally out of luck though—if you tell the online service that you have an East Coast cable carrier, it will stream broadcasts in real time to you at the appropriate Eastern Time. (If you are confused, just remember to say your zipcode is 10001, and your carrier is Time Warner Cable.) Advantage: Streaming player - In some cases, the only way half the country can see things live is through the online system.
The Final Word
NBC's done a fair job with their streaming player and satisfied years of pent-up frustration by serving such an unprecedented amount of Olympic coverage. But by trying to make things easier, the network seems to have made our lives harder. Diehards of weird sports like fencing or those who need their content more live than Bill O'Reilly can get something from online that they could never get from the tube. But the quality isn't great and using it feels obtuse.
On the other hand, HDTV looks great and has announcers, which is crucial despite its lack of coverage and antiquated tape delay. While the streaming player is a revolutionary leap forward in terms of content, I can't help feeling that it isn't 100% ready for these Olympics, and that the games are still built around your TV set. To get the most complete experience you need to use both, but if you have a DVR and don't mind delay then stick to your HDTV as much as possible. [NBC Olympics]
By now you may already be an Olympic-level Olympics home viewer yourself. If you have any tips, tricks or usage scenarios that make watching the Olympics more easy or fun, by all means share them with us in comments.

Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
eddyi
Posted August 12, 2008 10:35 AM
I watched the live USA vs China water polo game on tv and when the view was extended (as opposed to close-up) the players where blurry but not anything else-same on all my tv's. If there was a lot of space between the players the water was perfectly clear. So during an attempted goal if the ball crossed paths of other players it was not visible. I don't know if anyone else had noticed this but I haven't seen another game to see if this is was present any other time. Has anyone else had the same problem. This was on standard broadcast, not HD
feral
Posted August 12, 2008 2:20 PM
My 'olympics in the office' solution consists of using videolan client (which is also a streaming server) in conjunction with an old TV tuner card I had lying around gathering dust. Anyway I transcode to about 256k and stream over the internet, where I can tune in at work thru our dsl connection..
Granted Ive had to take a bit of a hit in quality, but hey it works.
I am enjoying SBS's coverage more so than CH 7's
Red T-Rex
Posted August 12, 2008 3:00 PM
What I don't get is why channel 7 has 4 digital channels all showing the same thing. I can understand this being the case for analog viewers but why do dogital viwers have to be dumbed down as well? They should be able to have a different event on each one so you can see something like the basketball in in it's entirety instead of bits here and there in between swapping back to swimming or bits of crap about the Beijing mascots.
Thank goodness we have SBS to pick up some of the slack.
The ABC seems to be the only ones who have any clue about running concurrent programming.
lilaliendog
Posted 7:19 AM 12/8/08
@GeekyNerdGuy: nice very very nice.
@farcast: Just from glancing you can tell there is a huge difference in contrast from the two also it seems the online stream is using a different color space, srgb instead of the normal color space tv's use. To be honest the online feed seems more true to life but needs a boast of contrast.
lilaliendog
SwatLax
Posted 7:15 AM 12/8/08
Just moved to a new apartment, and the Comcast Limited Basic Cable that I have is letting the HD channels dedicated to live basketball and soccer games through. Anyone know why?
SwatLax
OMG! Birthday!
Posted 7:13 AM 12/8/08
@farcast: That's because they've got a crashy copy of Windows running in the pool.
OMG! Birthday!
downbythetracks
Posted 7:11 AM 12/8/08
Well ... it works on Intel macs only.
How and why, I don't know, but that's what the nbc error message said.
downbythetracks
GeekyNerdGuy
Posted 7:10 AM 12/8/08
@farcast: He's a big fan of Eiffel 65
GeekyNerdGuy
farcast
Posted 7:04 AM 12/8/08
I think someone might need to turn down the color on their HDTV...that just seems really blue.
farcast
Charles
Posted 7:56 AM 12/8/08
Nice.
Charles
GRocker
Posted 7:45 AM 12/8/08
oh yeah and I'm American
GRocker
sebas0069
Posted 7:45 AM 12/8/08
Are there any other country playing besides Americans?
sebas0069
GRocker
Posted 7:44 AM 12/8/08
Just a note, This NBC streaming video is limited for American internet users only, I'm one that is stuck in Germany and noticed that I can't watch any of the video, plus my slingbox is shitty quality when streamed, so I'm gonna miss the olympics totally for the next couple of weeks, bummer
GRocker
tuckertuck
Posted 7:43 AM 12/8/08
A tip for people watching CBC.ca coverage on a mac. Click on the drop down menu to the right of the controls and click on Save As Source (need flip for mac plugin of course)
Then you can open the .asx file you saved in VLC player and watch the broadcasts in full screen. rather than in the tiny window they give you... Works for HNIC too!
The .asx file will expire so you'll have to repeat the process if you leave your comp and go back to it.
tuckertuck
hebrewhammer770
Posted 7:41 AM 12/8/08
hey this is offtopic but can someone please tip giz that gmail is down (for obvious reasons i can't do it myself and i'm too lazy to make a hotmail account just to send one email)
thanks
hebrewhammer770
ronnsprocket
Posted 7:36 AM 12/8/08
this is great. but I want Giz to get me details on the tech behind opening ceremonies. like that "worlds largest led screen"
...if there is a link, please direct me.
ronnsprocket
bitgod
Posted 8:20 AM 12/8/08
Ironic that you used those pictures. Have you tried watching the water polo in HDTV? Using DirecTV, the compression made everything look blurry, and my friend in Charlotte using whatever cable company they have there said the same thing.
bitgod
phoomp
Posted 8:20 AM 12/8/08
"We're sorry, NBC is required to restrict this video to viewers within the United States"
*What* requires NBC to restrict content to viewers within the United States?
phoomp
shinchan
Posted 8:08 AM 12/8/08
@GRocker: There is live coverage of a lot of olympic stuff on german tv (ZDF;ARD and all their extra channels). You'll have to make do with the german commentators though.
shinchan
marc_wtih_a_c
Posted 8:06 AM 12/8/08
@sebas0069: There are other countries? Yeah it would be nice if they showed some clips from the best people.
marc_wtih_a_c
Elly
Posted 8:03 AM 12/8/08
The broadcast delays don't bother me, but I thought I'd try this out anyway. It works well on my Mac and the expanded coverage is really nice. Also, it's much easier to watch while doing work in my office. If I turn my head to watch something on the TV, I end up in a trance and nothing gets done.
Elly
man in gauze is king ramses II, silly.
Posted 8:03 AM 12/8/08
It would help to know what channels are showing the Olympics; MSNBC, CNBC, and NBC, yes, but Universal HD also seems to be showing some stuff. I watched badminton there; Taipei got annihilated.
man in gauze is king ramses II, silly.
itchytooth
Posted 7:57 AM 12/8/08
I'm not sure how this relates to the options mentioned here, but you can also watch the Olympics footage directly in Windows Media Center. The quality is okay-ish, the interface is confusing and the Lenovo dancing troll commercial is at least 3 times louder than it should be and repeats about every 7 minutes.
itchytooth
ChoadNamath
Posted 8:41 AM 12/8/08
Watching games without commentary can be awesome. There are plenty of Olympic announcers who are just inane. It's nice to be able to just hear the organic sounds of a sport and crowd noise without some jackass blubbering on about the intricacies of some sport you only watch once every four years.
ChoadNamath
Charles
Posted 8:31 AM 12/8/08
@man in gauze is king ramses II, silly.: USA and Oxygen are also showing stuff.
@phoomp: They only have the rights to broadcast the games in the US.
Charles
jamar0303
Posted 9:00 AM 12/8/08
I'm in China, but not Beijing. The HD channel (yes, only one OTA HD channel, but at least it's 1080i) is 24/7 Olympics coverage. My god.
jamar0303
Charles
Posted 8:56 AM 12/8/08
As for the lack of commentary, it's a mixed bag. Watching the mens 4x100m relay last night made me glad I could hear grown men completely freak out about swimming, but at the same time both the announcers assumed the US had no chance of winning.
Charles
pdditty
Posted 8:48 AM 12/8/08
@phoomp: NBC paid almost $900M to have the rights to show the Olympics in America.
pdditty
BiZarRroBALlmeR
Posted 9:34 AM 12/8/08
SilverLight just gave me the scariest computer crash in many years. Had to force shut down. I'll be avoiding online Olympics. Yikes. Yes I have an intel mac.
BiZarRroBALlmeR
jimmyJAKE!
Posted 9:16 AM 12/8/08
it's not that bad. watched archery at like 4 this morning. just kinda sucks getting a commentary from a black box that some guy types into.
jimmyJAKE!
Dancing Milkcarton
Posted 9:59 AM 12/8/08
Sorry NBC, no online Olympics for me - there's no way I'm putting your plug-in on my computer.
Dancing Milkcarton
Dreamwriter
Posted 10:22 AM 12/8/08
You should see the Olympics via HD broadcast (over antenna) - where there is no extra compression added at all like satellite (and some cable providers) give. It's just pure amazing. Yes, you actually get better than cable/satellite quality with an antenna with HD!
Dreamwriter
nuclearlove
Posted 11:14 AM 12/8/08
Glad you pointed out the lack of announcers on the online player - all they have is that little "Commentary" box that occasionally has feedback in unedited English using really poor grammar, (like jimmyJAKE says) if anything at all. Personally I like hearing the commentators' inside knowledge on events and their explosive reactions to results. I don't know jack about the world championship ranks in swimming, for example, but I love watching the Olympic events, so they really help in catching me up and putting competitions in context.
Second disappointment is that occasionally I can't even tell what sport is showing in the menu. All I see a tiny little thumbnail and a description that says like "US vs. Korea in Group B." For what?! I've gotta click on it, sit through a low-budget GE commercial, and see what pops up. That's annoying. Why don't they just overlay the sport's icon on it or something? The titling is inconsistent.
I don't understand the lack of a full-screen mode either. The video quality is pretty good, buffering is minimal, and overall the Silverlight player works well on my Intel Mac in Safari, but the design and functionality are still lacking.
nuclearlove
ThirdType
Posted 1:16 PM 12/8/08
I personally LOVE not having to listen to commentary. It feels more like I'm actually there, hearing only what the players hear. After watching hours of Judo like that, I later saw a bit of it with commentary and actually found it pretty annoying.
It would be ideal if there was a separate audio track just for the commentary, which could be disabled. That way, everyone is happy.
ThirdType
bbfreak
Posted 3:16 PM 12/8/08
commentary or all = commentary at all
bbfreak
bbfreak
Posted 3:13 PM 12/8/08
"weird sports like fencing" Since when is fencing weird? Its freaking armed combat without the dying, what's not cool about that? Granted its not very popular in the US, probably because we loose more than anything. Then again, we did sweep in womans saber so that's something! ^.^ Anyway as for the NBC online player, I'd have to say its fair. Though I really haven't been drawn to that many sports (A combination of the late hours, and my general not dislike really but apathy for some sports). Usually what I want to watch is on TV, so whoo!
Still, its a far cry from the best streaming video player ever. Its really annoying that it can't automatically switch from the small preview in the control room to what isn't even full screen without buffering again. NBC's coverage overall is just okay, it isn't great so hopefully after 2012 we'll get a better broadcasting company to take the reigns. As for the commentary, I have to agree with ThirdType, I don't miss the commentary or all. Or the commercials and the bio pieces that I could care less about.
bbfreak
bbfreak
Posted 3:34 PM 12/8/08
@itchytooth: I'm not sure how this relates to the options mentioned here, but you can also watch the Olympics footage directly in Windows Media Center. The quality is okay-ish, the interface is confusing and the Lenovo dancing troll commercial is at least 3 times louder than it should be and repeats about every 7 minutes.
Yes but as the article mentions, that only works if you have Vista.
"Those of us stuck here in America and not lucky enough to own Vista must deal with NBC's often delayed event broadcasts."
bbfreak
bbfreak
Posted 3:55 PM 12/8/08
Also one other thing, if your going to have a comment box in what is the enlarged version they could at least make the comment box dragable so I can move it out of my way (Did they even test this thing before they put it out there?).
bbfreak
bbfreak
Posted 5:43 PM 12/8/08
I blame Gizmodo, instead of going to sleep I decided to test out the streaming video player again to get a better handle on my gripes and got caught until 3 AM watching double trap shooting. Whoo-hoo, American finally wins a medal in the event after winning notta since it was entered into the games in 1996. It was totally worth it to see the Italian guy crying like a little baby after too (I guess that's better than going Postal with a live gun). Anyway, now I'm going to sleep.
bbfreak
Barcard
Posted 11:02 PM 12/8/08
Time Warner Cable in my area seems to have thrown up three extra HD Olympic channels (OLYM1,2 and 3, or something like that), but only one of them was showing Olympic content at the time I was watching. Watched a boxing match between Cuba and the Ukraine, the screen had the MSN logo in the upper right corner. I got the impression it was definitely not live.
Barcard
huevos
Posted 10:56 PM 12/8/08
was anyone else puzzled or upset that they had to disclose their ISP and zip code? Is this a form of bandwidth allocation, have NBC and the ISPs gotten together to make streaming faster? Ive been watching quite a bit of content, and there is very little lag.
@Dancing Milkcarton:
You dont need to install the plug-in. When you go to the site and start to launch the player, it will ask you to install the plugin, just below it is a little link that allows you to view content without the plugin...works great when youre at work and cant install anything!!!!
huevos
phoomp
Posted 12:37 AM 13/8/08
@pdditty: "@phoomp: NBC paid almost $900M to have the rights to show the Olympics in America."
Fair enough. But, if they only have the rights to show the Olympics in America, why am I able to see them on NBC over cable in Canada? Shouldn't they also be blocking international TV broadcasts of their Olympic coverage?
phoomp
RamV10
Posted 2:41 AM 13/8/08
I would have loved to have an XMBC script that streamed the olympics.
Sadly there's none yet that are worth a shit. Maybe that will change before they're over, but I'm not holding my breath.
RamV10
caption
Posted 7:16 AM 13/8/08
"Powered by Microsoft Silverlight"
That is why its crappy quality....
caption
Ariel_Wollinger
Posted 9:05 AM 13/8/08
Brazil flag FTW!
Ariel_Wollinger
Posted 6:22 AM 14/8/08
NBC has a 66-page PDF available for download that lists every event on every channel, and which will be live on the East Coast.
[awfulannouncing.blogspot.com]
Posted 11:54 PM 12/8/08
FYI concerning live broadcasts...
USAToday.com put together an article about TV coverage of the Olympics. Not only does it show what is playing on each of the channels at what times (NBC, NBCHD, UniversalHD, USA, MSNBC Oxygen, etc.), but it also shows which events are aired LIVE.
[www.usatoday.com]
Very convenient.
Posted 11:10 PM 12/8/08
Is there anyway at all to get around the fact that NBC's online player wants Vista, XP, or Windows 2003 to run? I'm painfully stuck with Windows 2000.
earthling
Posted 11:42 PM 17/8/08
The quality of the video on NBC only sucks because you can directly compare it to the HD source. If you were stuck with SD (standard def) and you had the online content as it is you would feel differently, you might still think its a bit soft but you would *not* be trashing it. Try watching SD sports on your 46" flatpanel and then compare that to the streaming player..
The silverlight player on the other hand seems to be a bit painful, partially because of the way it is integrated into the website (afterthought) and because browsing sucks.
As for the lack of commentary.. welcome to television. Television production is a fairly rigid process requiring lots of preparation for any given event, there is really only time for the 'experts' to prepare for the broadcasts they are working on, they need to get background material, do their hair, do interviews, do their hair, do some editing, read some scripts, memorize some stats, do their hair, etc.. they couldn't possibly comment on all of the available channels but hey, they aren't commenting when you are at the event either.
I think there are a few things that could be improved for the 2012 olympics.
1. Get guest commentators on by syndicating the feeds (allow them to be embedded in other websites). This would give expert guest 'color' with live comments/blog entries bringing a better experience to those who want commentary and it would help expose the video more.
2. Give us the option to listen to the event audio (the announcer at the event). This would go a long ways towards making the event feel more live.
3. Allow video / audio mixing so that people can do their own highlight reels, add their own commentary tracks, this would increase online participation exponentially.
4. Give us a viewer which is more 'channel' driven. Give each sport its own channel so people can refer to it in the terms they are used to when talking to their friends.. interested in fencing? Tune to NBCOlympics.com/336
5. Publish an RSS feed of the event guide so people can put together favorites, build alternative viewing guides, etc...
There is a lot more but thats a start.
earthling