What's with all the 10 year olds on today? Stop whining so much people. If you don't like the way it works then why did you buy it in the first place?

ttech10

I was lucky enough to get it, but it came with no instructions for PC users. So if anyone out there can provide some setup instructions that would be very helpful. Also I doubt it was apple who wanted this app pulled, but rather AT&T, as they stand to loose the most from tethering.

Crashdown514

@aeroworks:
"cock gobblers"??

dude, its just an app.

dogcow

argh i can't stand you

chanmoss

@aeroworks: Cydia? Nullriver? I think if anything it will be one of those things on Installer!! Oh how I miss thee installer. :(

chorx

Also, I hope they put it on Cydia just to throw dirt in those cock gobbler's faces. sorry. im just, frustrated. time for bed.

aeroworks

who the hell is apple? the nazis? what the heck does this app do that is so horribly detrimental to there company. I was just going to buy this too. Really pisses me off. Where is the "kick steve in the balls app". Id make it myself but apple makes me pay $100 to make apps for there stupid phone.. grr. android, where art thou.

aeroworks

I GOT IT!!!....yessssss

HA5TY

I going to buy it this evening and found it was gone again!

This is silly!

LittleJon

...but it was $10...

ArAcHnAdZ

The first useful app I've seen and Apple knocks it. Lame.

Metkis

@coketown: I've used this sort of thing on AT&T's 3G network in the past, both via my phone and one of their card doobers and it's pretty quick. Now Edge, that's agonizingly slow, but 3G was fine.

mhlaxp

@aeroworks: How short sighted of you. Apple makes you pay $99 to play in the game, and in exchange they give you pretty much exclusive access to MILLIONS of locked in customers just dying for some apps to put on their phone. Damn those Apple Nazis anyways, right?

Have you seen the download numbers on some of these apps. TapTapRevenge, or whatever it's called now, has had 1 million downloads in three weeks. That one's free, but people wouldn't have blinked an eye at paying 99-cents, even $1.99 I'll wager. Even if charging a buck cut the downloading crowd in half, I'd gladly fork over a $100 entry fee to make $500,000.

I suspect that most of those who post similar complaints (I don't want to pay $100 to Apple upfront, I don't think they should get 30%, etc) are either lacking in skills to create an app that would actually sell, or just as likely Apple-haters just trolling for attention.

The iPhone is the hottest developer platform out there right now, and looking at all the "no-names" with apps on the store already, looks like anyone willing to jump into the fray with a halfway decent app stands a chance to make some coin, with no retailing hassles, no hosting, no payment processing hassles, etc.

I'll make you a deal, you show me what you got that is App Store worthy, and I'll front you the $100 to join the program in exchange for a 25% cut of the action you get. Deal?

On topic, I grabbed the app the second time around. I couldn't find it in iTunes, but on my iPhone's App Store, if I searched on NullRiver, then clicked their name in the results, it showed two apps from them, the radio tuner and NetShare.

I could already do the socks relay thing with my jailbroken phones, but this was a good way to "donate" a little to NullRiver, the guys who brought us the jailbreak app installer in the first place.

distortedloop

@coketown: You should see my Macbook tethering to a LG 3G phone then. Feels just as fast as DSL for me.

yayaba

Folks, I used my phone as a modem for a while and let me tell you, this application going down is nothing to pout over. "Mobile broadband" is a myth and pages load slower than a 14.4k modem.

coketown

Yep, while I was trying to buy it, it was pulled.

The question is will ATT charge for low use tethering, or is the business grade account considered tethered accessible.

DeadWriter

would this app help my friend let him use my edge connection for his first gen iphone?

jatt510

I downloaded this app this afternoon and just followed the directions posted on appleinsider.com. Worked like a charm! I was a bit confused on how to get back to my original settings but only for a moment. Very cool app.

AJCoombs

@coketown: You need to speedtest the connection. I find it hard to believe it's slower than a 14.4 modem in 3G mode. It will certainly feel slower than a landline broadband connection, unless you're on a slow DSL line, but even EDGE should be faster than 14.4.

I just ran some speed tests comparing iPhone tethered via EDGE and via 3G as well as my Sprint CDMA data card. The Sprint card wins, which didn't surprise me.

Results on my blog post at: [thedigitaldive.net]

distortedloop

@aeroworks:
I can almost guarantee it has nothing to do with Apple and everything to do with AT&T. They thing people using this will cause other cell data users in the area to have a bad experience.

Not that I agree with them. Just saying I don't really think Apple cares if you use something like this.

TheDustball

Baah I want it back...
I was waiting to be paid..

doobiebros2two

Maybe they demoted the guy that was in charge of the MobileFail transition to an App approval processor.

I got it yesterday when it hit the first time. I wonder what Apple will do if they decide to lock it out of the store. Are they going to issue everyone a refund (or the typical Apple Store credit) and forbid the app from running on your phone?

krispykrink

Should have bought it when I had the chance...damn it.

Dudemeister on the Run

still a bargin at twice the price. come back, netshare :(

rudeadly

I got mine downloaded and installed on the second go-round. If Apple/AT&T somehow disable what I've already paid for, then I'm seriously going to look into jailbreaking my iPhone.

corpus_goatse_tx

@chorx: Do all these asking for it to be placed on Cydia or Installer realize that NullRiver were the ones who gave us Installer.app in the first place?

I don't think they'll release the same thing on Installer as long as it's in the Apple App Store...that would be a violation of the SDK license wouldn't it.

All those so desperate for this that are jailbroken already, just use Cydia to get the SOCKS proxy stuff and you can set this up with a few easy commands anyways.

This app is for those who don't want to jailbreak or are afraid of any command line work.

distortedloop

screw NetShare. when can I get iCall?

jfj

@ttech10: "If you don't like the way it works then why did you buy it in the first place?"

We're not "whining" about something we bought. We're whining about something we are not able to buy!

LittleJon

I saw it just as it was taken down...when I clicked on it I got a notice saying it wasn't available. :(

thor79

Will Apple still allow updates for this software? Or once pulled, no more updates? That seems a bit unfair...

sirtalis

i liked the idea of apple offering applications and how "easy" it works with the app store. but the more I think of it, the more it gets scary: apple has the total control, we are all depending on their will no matter if we are developers or buyers/users. it scares me a bit that there is no (legal?) alternative, the concept is like a dictatorship and i start to get the feeling that with every apple product their "net" of control gets tighter and tighter. am I wrong?

Bodypainter

@distortedloop: If you think Apple has anything in mind other than separating people(including developers) from their money, you've got rocks in your head.

@Bodypainter:
money = power
power = control
control = money

soggy_cheerio

Or windows instructions at [www.forums.macrumors.com]

Inepsa

@Crashdown514: Look in the reviews of the app, their were detailed instructions.

Inepsa

oldest trick in the book, they and not apple removed it from the store, and you all fell for it :).

everybody buys it even when they don't even know what to do with it, they are making a ton of cash.

this is gong to happen to more apps, trust me !

xenoastro

What, so you can't do this without this app? With my non-iphone 3G phone, all I have to do is click "connect to network" on the bluetooth menu on my mac and I'm online. I actually spent ages trying to find settings/software to do this, because I didn't realise it could be so simple and built-in!

treetrunk

@treetrunk, so you don't have an iPhone ?, wow good for you :/

xenoastro

Just so you guys know. It doesn't matter if you grabbed it the first time or the second time. Apple requires all developers to get a digitally signed certificate to deploy their application. That means if they revoke that applications deployment certificate it won't run on your device no matter when you bought it. All they have to do is revoke it, credit your account for the purchase and it's over--Apple FTW.

Joseph

On Rogers? On man, I feel so sorry for that guy when he sees his data bill.

Darcy

As usual every phone since the dawn of time could be used as a modem.
Apple suck balls.

My free on contract Samsung Soul looks better and better and even lets my macbook connect to the internet at 2Mb

Fourthletter

Wait a sec. Is this the $10 app that nobody actually got working?
Could it be that Apple pulled it because they were charging for an app that didn't work?

CaptCaveman

@marm0lade: Reguardless of how you feel about what Apple is doing for development of the iPhone, they are still in full control. My point is that it doesn't matter if you already downloaded the app, Apple can still disable it on all devices.

As far as my sentiments on the development side. None of what they are doing affects any software I'm working on, but there are a ton of great apps that I think are being held back because of some of the restrictions they have in place. I really think that Apple is trying to do too much with too few. Their market cap is about 130 Billion and Microsoft's is about 100 billion more, but when you look at company size, Apple only has ~18,000 full time employees while Microsoft has ~90,000. Microsoft has five times as many employees, barely twice market impact. Apple is running too lean and they need to expand to be able to provide their customers with adequate services. I'm with you 100% as far as how they are running the business/consumer shop speaking from a developers perspective, but from a technology/infrastructure perspective, they still hold all of the cards.

Joseph

@xenoastro:

No, that's why I said "non-iphone". With my current phone I can get online on my mbp anywhere - it surprises me Apple wouldn't automatically support such a feature on their own phone!

treetrunk

@Joseph: Apple FTL, actually. It's bad enough that developing apps for the iphone is a joke, in the sense that Apple makes Microsoft look generous when it comes to restrictions. Now they can't get a grip on what apps are acceptable before making them available. Just because Apple CAN revoke the app doesn't mean they win anything. You fan boys are so silly.

marm0lade

@soggy_cheerio: Dude, the average developers are making a little bit more than $2k a day on some of their bullshiet Apps being sold though the app store, so i don't think they should be to worry about paying the $100 entry fee if that's what you mean, see the link [www.9to5mac.com]

snitch29

Some people make no sense at all, why would anyone wanna tether their iphone to a laptop if you already know AT&T is going to terminate your contract if you get caught doing it, Why???? so you could blame Apple later????? Same goes to Bluetooth stereo Support, why make it happen??? so morons can complain about battery life then. Am pretty sure Apple will lift some restrictions on the SDK but you have to keep in mind that they have to start from the bottom up and correct issues along the way and not from the top to the bottom

snitch29

Maybe Apple/ATT are trying to sell the application in small lots as a test, to see how much additional data traffic the application generates?

liquidsoapdispenser

@soggy_cheerio: Don't be droll. Of course I know Apple is in it for the money, they're a frickin' business aren't they? Businesses exist to generate profits for the shareholders, END OF STORY. Why can't you Apple haters get past that? If Apple didn't make a profit, they'd go out of business and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

That doesn't change a single thing about my comments. So what if they charge you $100 to get in the game? They give you the software you need for free. Other platforms you have to buy the development tools, evens the entry fee a bit there, doesn't it?

So what if they charge $100 to get a slot in the App Store and take a cut? Look at the potential market. There will be 10 million iPhone customers, most of them locked in to the iTunes Store to get their programs; outside of the kind of people who read this blog, the vast majority of iPhone owners don't know about jailbreaking, and wouldn't attempt it even if they knew it existed.

$100 and 30% gets you access to 10,000,000 potential customers. That's hard to get any other way.

The 30% sounds steep, but big deal, pass it on to the customers, that's what every other industry does, and at the low prices . You want to pocket $5 per license, charge $6.50 for the app; you might lose a few sales at the higher price, but you'll maintain your desired margin. That decision is one best made after considering the higher margins vs. greater volumes equations.

You write a program, put it on iTunes and let the checks start coming in. You don't have to worry about hosting a site, getting a payments system in place, advertising, refunds, bandwidth, accounting, any of the aspects of going it alone. None of that stuff's hard to do, but not bothering with it all must be a nice benefit.

I guarantee you, everyone who has released a 99-cent or more application that isn't clearly garbage software on the iTunes Store has made back their $100 entry fee many times over, probably in the first day of release.

Have you got anything useful to add to the conversation, or you just going to sit there and insult people?

distortedloop

it's online again!

smokeonit

Those directions are from a forum (they are not mine). I just added that you could use FREECAP instead of paying for proxified.

tineras

@Crashdown514:

+ Watch video

or

First off,you need to download (FREECAP is free - Aaron) or Proxifier from proxifier.com

Here ya go:

1) Setup a new network on windows(call it netshare)

a. To do this you need to go into your network connections and right click on your wireless connection. Then click the wireless networks tab. Click add. Name your network whatever. I call mine "netshare." Set net authentication to open and data encryption to disabled. click the box on the bottom that says "this is a computer to computer ad-hoc network"

b. You may need to click Advanced and change to ad-hoc to get it to connect to "netshare"

2) Connect to the ad-hoc network by disconnecting all other connections.

3) Go to the wifi networks on your iphone and select netshare. Set the IP address to 192.168.1.1 and the subnet to 255.255.255.0. Use Static

4) Go to the TCP/IP settings and set your computer's IP.
a. To do this you need to right click on your wireless connection and click properties.
b. left click on Internet Protocol TCP/IP and select properties.
c. select the use the following ip address box
d. set your ip to 192.168.1.2
e. set your subnet to 255.255.255.0
f. select ok

5) Run the FreeCap or proxifier program

6) click the proxy settings button on the tool bar

7) Click Add then enter 192.168.1.1 in the address and set the port to 1080. select Socks ver 5 and click ok

8) Open netshare on your iphone

9) Run Firefox from FREE CAP or if using proxifier test your connection using the proxy checker

tineras

@TheDustball:

Considering AT&T sells devices that allow tethering (all Blackberry devices as well as the new LG and Samsung smartphones), I'm pretty sure Apple is pulling the app on their own.

seizure

I'm allowed to tether with my $30.00 6 GB data plan on Rogers HSPA/EDGE network. Problem is Apple appears to not want anyone to have this app which makes no sense since it doesn't harm the iPhone EDGE or iPhone 3G models. Apple can if they wanted to filter apps in the App Store based on country so they don't upset specific carriers that don't allow their customers to tether the iPhone. Apple is not just upsetting their developers but also their customers by censoring apps without any notification to either developer or their customers as to the reason why it was pulled. The NetShare app was available when I was at work but I was to busy to download it though I thought I would be able to download it after work. I was wrong in that assumption since Apple's goons monitoring the App Store pulled the app again. Actions such as this are contradictory to fair business practice and will leave customers with more reason to not buy from the App Store and instead hack their iPhones to use installerapp 4 when released.

imagine-engine

I guarantee you it's AT&T asking Apple not to support this app. Why would Apple care at all?

nadime

I wrote up some workarounds for issues using netshare and further details on the instructions that nullriver provides for those of you still having trouble. It's on my blog -[jphone.wordpress.com.] Its too long to post here. No ads or anything not trying to drive traffic for any devious means just trying to help.

Jimmy M

Thou shalt not tether thy iPhone. So says the word of Jobs, so it shall be.

BanMeAgainBrianLam

I'm sure someone else has mentioned this, but it specifically says that its against AT&T rules to tether your phone if you have not paid for the service. What they should do is offer the developer of the program the right to sell a tethering program and split the royalties... Or they should just offer their own program for sale.

mistamc

Apple Gestapo! YAVOL!

It all starts with one App and then it'll be 2, 4, 8, 16...

and so on and so on...

This is why I'm not too fond of Apple.

draiko

@treetrunk:

@seizure:

ATT is clearly to blame. In a statement made by ATT's CEO, it was revealed that the iPhone would not allow tethering and that the regular unlimited data plan would be the only option for iphone customers. ATT has a lot to lose here so I'm not quite sure why everyone is jumping down Apple's throat. This app would only help Apple sell more phones.

justinpe

It's appearing and disappearing at the same time from the UK AppStore, so either it's not AT&T or them and O2 are holding hands and are subscribed to each other's twitter.

Onouris

Ahh... so this would be a bad time to tell you all that I'm posting this from my laptop over NetShare, eh?

Best $10 ever spent!

mcdonnr

@justinpe:

Because AT&T are not the only licensed carrier to sell the iPhone 3G. Here in Canada our $30.00 6 GB data plan can be used on any smartphone for tethering, including the iPhone 3G.

imagine-engine

@krispykrink: That's an interesting point, I would've thought that Apple would've implemented a means of disabling any apps that have been pulled.

Although the outrage would be phenomenal - considering the general response to Apple simply halting sales of the app. There would be riots if Apple did reach into your device and kill code. But still, i'm surprised they haven't tried.

tokiwartooth

Like all other Australian iPhone plans, my downloads are capped (500Mb is not a whole lot of data). If I want to tether my iPhone to my laptop and eat through all of my downloads, why can't I pay yet more money for the privilege to do so?
I'm just going to hang on to my cheap little 3G Nokia for the times I want to do this.

reckless_inoz

Problem: I bought the app directly to my EDGE phone. I'm buying a 3G today so I want to load it onto that, but the app won't sync to itunes from my first phone. Any thoughts?

EmSquad56

I bought the app directly from my EDGE iphone and now that I'm getting a 3G today I want to copy it to that....only problem is that the app won't sync back into itunes.

ANY THOUGHTS?

EmSquad56

I found it unfortunate that I am not able to tether my new 3G iPhone when I had been using my Cingular/ATT/HTC 8525 for fast 3G data access for over a year now. I really don't understand the problem (whether it's an Apple control issue or ATT revenue issue), but both parties should fix it if they want to see the product thrive on a long term basis. People take their laptops everywhere these days (not just geeks, mind you), and want ubiquitous access without paying another $50/month for a cellular data card/plan, especially when they are already paying $1200/year for what they thought was unlimited data access on their phone...

psghosh

so do i get my money back? i just bought it today when it came back on knowing it would be taken off again...anything that seems to good to be true usually is

reas0n

@Metkis:
I was lucky enough to get it but now I'm SOOOOOOO worried that there going to remove it from iTunes the next time I check for updates.

ajmernone

@ttech10: we're on edge because the phone worked better before the 2.0 update. Since then, the phones mostly unusable. I'm honest to God amazed safari hasn't crashed as I type this.

beefsuperior

..or maybe AT&T wants us-NO! Dares us to use this app to tether, slamming us with overages, and apple took the app down to protect us. WHO KNOWS!?

Cock gobblers.

beefsuperior

Is someone working on an app to pwn the app store for non-jailbreak phones? AKA, app store at home? If they are giving you the program to upload to a phone for free why hack the phone when you can hack the uploader?

harry_craft