Phones
Motorola Insider Blame Game: Engineers Shoved Designers Aside
Posted by Brendan I. Koerner at 1:00 AM on August 21, 2008
These days, most in-the-know folks would sooner eat glass than carry a Motorola phone. The company has shredded its reputation by failing to address basic interface design issues: freeze-prone software, head-scratching menus, keys that demand Herculean strength. It's baffling that such a venerable company could build such frustrating phones, considering the zillions presumably spent on development. How did Motorola make such a bollocks of its wireless division? Now that the company has annointed new wireless division chief Sanjay Jha, we surveyed former staffers for the inside scoop, as well as their advice on how to right the ship.
Insiders always start by attacking Motorola's corporate culture, formed decades ago when radio was the company's bread-and-butter. Motorola made its bones building end-to-end systems--not just hardware, but the infrastructure that supports it. That, in turn, has led to a culture in which engineers reign supreme, and are allowed to sneer at their more right-brain-inclined colleagues. Marketers? Designers who focus on usability as opposed to circuitry? At Motorola, they're peons.
"There's this amazing wealth of engineering talent, but there's no system for harnessing that talent for the good of the consumer," says one former Motorola executive. The men in the R&D labs are permitted to indulge their flights of fancy, many of which centre on fine-tuning antennas to optimise reception. Meanwhile, no one pays much attention to more prosaic fundamentals such as reliable software.
Another Motorola departee told Gizmodo that the company group charged with consumer research has been marginalised by the engineers, who dismiss its concerns--and, to a large extent, its very existence--as inconsequential. "With the engineers," he said, "there's this attitude of, "I create--what do you do? You pick out colours?'"
The engineers could theoretically be kept in check by corporate managers, but few suits are bold enough to act. A Motorola insider noted that long-serving managers have "deity status" at the company--no matter how many of their products flop, they never suffer repercussions.
The RAZR, a design victory as much as an engineering one, only came about due to the gumption of chief marketing office Geoffrey Frost. Following the RAZR's overnight success, Moto commissioned an in-house team to research the company's next step. Countless hours were spent pulling together focus-group studies and carrier feedback, but it was all for naught--the research was simply ignored by Motorola's top brass. "They have this attitude of, 'Well, I've built phones for 20 years, I know what I'm doing," says a frustrated member of that team, who noted that once Frost died in 2005, there was no one left with the chops and political capital to route around Moto's stick-in-the-mud managers.
Motorola's managerial bumbling has resulted in severe cultural malaise--a condition made worse by the mobile unit's location in the deep Chicago suburbs, hardly a place awash in creative energy. (Few 22-year-old design wunderkinds are willing to forego the Bay Area in favour of Libertyville.)
Keep in mind, too, that Motorola was the birthplace of Six Sigma, a methodology meant to eliminate product defects. But Six Sigma was created in 1986, well before the era of ubiquitous mobiles; its focus is engineering, not end-user experience. The methodology is therefore unequipped to address many of the shortcomings that have irked so many customers.
Take, for example, the navigation joystick on the ill-fated first-gen ROKR. It looked cool and worked as intended, but not without minor headaches: The joystick was a hair too sensitive, making it too easy to scroll past your music selection. Or take the Q--relatively powerful, but why in heaven's name didn't it auto-capitalise address book names, or allow for copy-and-paste? Sure these may strike you as minor details, but minor details make the difference in a competitive handset market. And Motorola's aging quality-control program wasn't designed to catch such annoying foibles.
Six Sigma and its companion product-development methodology, dubbed "M-Gates," both stress caution in the name of quality. But when it comes to innovation, there's certainly such a thing as too much wariness. In planning its software path after the RAZR's smashing success, Motorola knew (to its credit) that its Synergy OS was antiquated. But instead of developing a worthy successor, the company decided to wait around for Windows Mobile, ostensibly because it was a sure thing. Big mistake, as we all now know. Motorola next turned to Linux, which has never lived up to expectations. That's left the company scrambling for replacements, a panic that has led to the striking of numerous deals with potential software partners--"throwing darts at a board," as one former Motorola employee put it. It's also meant that different generations of the same phone end up running completely different software--the RAZR2 3G, for example, runs on the old P2K OS, while the 2.5G variant uses Linux. Both are painfully slow.
Motorola can still find the way forward--this is, after all, a company that's long done wondrous things in the lab. Surely it can figure out how to make its software work more fluidly, or realise that consumers actually care about such "trifling" issues as external volume rockers and intuitive menus.
Ex-employees are nearly unanimous in stating that bringing on Sanjay Jha as co-CEO (and designated handset-division savior) is a reasonable gamble. It's been clear for months now that CEO Greg Brown is in way over his head. "He has no idea how to run a consumer electronics business," grumbles one critic, adding that Brown's previous job was at an enterprise software company. While Jha is well regarded for his operational prowess and sheer intelligence, it's worth noting that he's fresh off a 14-year run at Qualcomm. Did chipmaking really prepare Jha to address the needs of Joe Sixpack consumers?
Our contacts contend that Jha's rescue plan needs to focus on two important areas--one technical, the other cultural. First, the company needs to streamline its wireless development, so that phone models are designed in conjunction with one another--thereby ending the lunacy of different generations featuring different (and inadequate) software. Second, there needs to be a reconciliation between the engineering heroes and the consumer research folks, who are currently out in the wilderness.
That can happen if Motorola opens its eyes to the very real design problems that plague generation after generation of its handsets. But does the company's leadership have the will to really shake things up? Some curmudegeonly engineers and managers are going to resist with every fibre of their beings. May the Force be with you, Mr. Jha.
Gizmodo columnist Brendan I. Koerner is a contributing editor at Wired and author of the Now the Hell Will Start: One Soldier's Flight from the Greatest Manhunt of World War II.

Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
Ram Dayal
Posted November 11, 2008 4:32 PM
Motorola is a great company. Be is Six Sigma, Mobile Phones or anything else, it inspires. I think it will bounce back in mobiles with a bang. Its products are getting better and better.
FuzzysFriedChicken
Posted 1:36 AM 21/8/08
@soulfinger: Motorola does focus on RF first. That is why their products will outperform apple in terms of signal every time. If apple had a few better RF people for iPhone and MacBooks their products would be significantly better.
FuzzysFriedChicken
soulfinger
Posted 1:30 AM 21/8/08
This is the fundamental difference between a company like Moto and Apple. Apple focuses on the design first. The user is first. That focus comes from the designers, not the engineers. It's like a broken record seeing this sort of thing go on and amazing that in spite of all the history people have to reference, they still can't get it.
soulfinger
FuzzysFriedChicken
Posted 1:25 AM 21/8/08
As somebody who worked at Motorola until last year. I think this is one of the better articles about them.
FuzzysFriedChicken
m4ximusprim3
Posted 1:24 AM 21/8/08
@enine: Umm. No offense but that doesn't fly. When you put stuff in your product, people attribute it to you. It is up to you to make sure your product works correctly and to your customer's expectations.
You're putting linux in your phone? You better make sure you make it work (It's open source for gods sake- modify it to do what you want it to do).
You're using WinMo? Bully Microsoft into making it do what you want it to, or take your business elsewhere.
In the end, it's your name on the product.
m4ximusprim3
TheDustball
Posted 1:17 AM 21/8/08
It's almost amazing that ANY company larger than 50 people ever develops interesting and functional products. In my limited experience this brand of in-fighting is the norm rather than the exception. Hopefully Motorola can get it figured out.
TheDustball
m4ximusprim3
Posted 1:17 AM 21/8/08
Interesting read, but in the end, it's too late for me. I'll probably never buy a moto phone again.
m4ximusprim3
darundal
Posted 1:17 AM 21/8/08
@Hectorvex: Gotta disagree with you there, I love my Motofone F3. I think it is the best phone I have ever had.
darundal
enine
Posted 1:16 AM 21/8/08
"Or take the Q-relatively powerful, but why in heaven's name didn't it auto-capitalize address book names, or allow for copy-and-paste"
Thats not Motorola's fault, the phone runs windows mobile so they can't really fix that, have you ever tried to get Microsoft to fix an issue like that, want to talk about the "I've been doing this for years" attitude, Microsoft is the worst.
"Motorola next turned to Linux, which has never lived up to expectations" Linux has far exceed anyones expecations. Its a free OS that people develop in their spare time as a hobby which rivals OS's that cost millions of $ and require thousands of developers from companies like Microsft and Apple.
It appears a certain columnist doesn't know the tect industry very well.
enine
Hectorvex
Posted 1:14 AM 21/8/08
Motorola hasn't made a good phone since the Startec (Startac? I can't remember.) Since then it's been nothing but LG for me.
Hectorvex
chefsami
Posted 1:14 AM 21/8/08
great read thanx. I still remember my startac cell phone that thing was awesome totally indestructible and great reception would receive calls in the subway from it.
chefsami
robot-shmobot
Posted 1:13 AM 21/8/08
Companies better realize the value of GOOD design, whether it's Industrial or Graphic, or they are going to start to tank.
I'm not saying everything has to be bubbly, aqua, web 2.0.. but for christ sakes, STOP LETTING ENGINEERS DESIGN PRODUCTS AND INTERFACES.
robot-shmobot
aec007
Posted 1:12 AM 21/8/08
Engineers make things happen. Designers make them pretty, ergonomic and work with customer feedback. Marketing people sell the stuff and do the PR bullshit.
When any of them tries do each others work the product they make is crap, works like crap and smells like crap.
You don't need a PHD to know that.
aec007
jscseattle
Posted 1:10 AM 21/8/08
that is exactly what happened to us at Aldus. By the end the engineers had locked themselves on the top floor of the building with a card key system that only let engineers on. They called the shots. We had a photo editing program half done in conjunction with the design group that killed Photoshop today. The engineers came back with a product steering committee that said a photo editing tool will never sell. The irony is that Adobe bought us with proceeds from Photoshop.
jscseattle
MayorWest
Posted 1:09 AM 21/8/08
Hey, I happen to live in Chicago and wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
I agree with all the other crap though.
MayorWest
DucatiGuy
Posted 1:04 AM 21/8/08
And at the end of the day, the bottom line for the exec's at Motorola... what time is tee-off?
DucatiGuy
Norcross
Posted 1:58 AM 21/8/08
@enine: My WinMo phone (HTC Excalibur / T-Mobile Dash) auto-capitalizes names in the phone book and sentences. Since it's not a touch screen, there isn't a dedicated copy / paste, but there was on my old PocketPC that ran WinMo 2003.
Norcross
enine
Posted 1:57 AM 21/8/08
@m4ximusprim3:
Sure Motorola could have picked a better os, but the same issue applies to the Palm 700w since it runs WinMo or the phones by samsung, etc so its not a fault of just Motorola phones.
You can't just bully MS into fixing issues or take your business elsewhere as long as corportate America uses Microsoft your stuck with it if you want to sell to that market.
enine
savedsoul
Posted 1:51 AM 21/8/08
Many of you forget that Motorola is NOT a consumer electronics company. That's just where they make their capital for other interests. They do so much other *cough* more important *cough* stuff out of the public eye, most people don't even know. The real issue is two-fold.
1) Motorola is a big company prone to the pains of being in a big company. They are bigger now than they were in the 80's, thus more bureaucratic problems. Deal with it.
2) The economy has changed. Back when they got popular, they had cutting edge stuff. They have not adjusted to the economic climate sticking to what they know, and have fallen behind the pack. Bad move by the big heads here, and if they were a smaller company, they would surely have gone belly-up by now. This is a common problem in post-bubble tech companies, just the good ones reacted when they knew they had to without much hesitation.
Is it too late? No, but that's only because their name is good enough to keep them afloat. They need to catch-up, diversify, or move out of the way.
savedsoul
frigg
Posted 1:47 AM 21/8/08
@FuzzysFriedChicken: I'd expect that to happen. Poaching isn't just what happens to salmon at the Google Café.
frigg
zsleek7
Posted 1:45 AM 21/8/08
these features are very good btw
zsleek7
TommySez
Posted 1:45 AM 21/8/08
@soulfinger: "Apple focuses on the design first. The user is first."
Close. Steve is first. If user tastes align with him, everything is swell.
TommySez
rallycar27
Posted 1:44 AM 21/8/08
that was interesting. I enjoyed that article.
rallycar27
Joseph
Posted 1:43 AM 21/8/08
Seems like bad managers as opposed to bad engineers. Aren't the managers paid to manage the people?
Joseph
europria
Posted 1:41 AM 21/8/08
Leadership Leadership Leadership
A leader cannot be an expert in everything ( design, development, production or marketing) but also cannot isolate himself from any of these.Organizations need leaders with vision, management skills, guts to stand against political pressure, smart enough to know what s/he doesn't know, confident enough to delegate.
Steve Jobs for example: He doesn't design, code or develop brand and marketing but he has certain skills in all of them. He is a strategic thinker, he has vision and achieves his vision with people.
It looks like Moto did not have any true leaders.
europria
zsleek7
Posted 1:40 AM 21/8/08
proper management and well designed culture are the only ways around ivory towers
zsleek7
hagrun
Posted 1:36 AM 21/8/08
I have an idea. Listen to what people bitched about on your previous phones, and avoid the previous problems. History teachers call it learning from your mistakes.
hagrun
sisedi
Posted 2:24 AM 21/8/08
Geniuses live in the Bay area? I didn't know all the hobos there had degrees... i joke
but yeah, Chicago boy here and we have plenty of creative folks, especially in marketing.
sisedi
europria
Posted 2:22 AM 21/8/08
@kaffeen: So Kaffen, are you saying not everyone needs IPhone? Blasphemy !!
Actually I think there are two kind of cell phone users:
1. Who know they need an IPhone
2. Who don't know yet that they need an IPhone
europria
DorkRawk
Posted 2:17 AM 21/8/08
@MayorWest: Yea, I live in Chicago now, but I actually used to work at the Libertyville Motorola. There's nothing interesting going on around there. Believe me.
DorkRawk
FuzzysFriedChicken
Posted 2:15 AM 21/8/08
@frigg: While I was working at Motorola, I got calls with job offers from Apple to leave to work on the iPhone. The compensation was not high enought to make it worthwhile.
A couple months ago, Apple has a big engineering recruiting day in Mundelein, Illinois about 5 miles from the Motorola mobile devices HQ.
FuzzysFriedChicken
asten77
Posted 2:10 AM 21/8/08
@MayorWest:
Yeah, but Chicago != Libertyville.
asten77
SigmundTheSeaMonster
Posted 2:08 AM 21/8/08
@DucatiGuy: At the end of the day? you give them too much credit. Where I work, the two owners start blabbing (@9:30am) about tomorrow morning's tee-off time.
SigmundTheSeaMonster
kaffeen
Posted 2:03 AM 21/8/08
I have an iPhone. My wife has a Motorola Z9. I'm a geek and love my phone. My wife just makes calls and could care less about the internet/applications/multimedia. I gotta say, for doing the traditional job of a mobile phone, Motorola does a great job, sound quality is amazing. I've played with the Z9, although not eye candy, it is pretty intuitive and easy to navigate. Perfect for those how really use their phone as a phone (imagine that!).
kaffeen
MayorWest
Posted 2:49 AM 21/8/08
OK...Chicago yes. Libertyville no.
Maybe they should move back downtown to their roots. Infuse the company with new energy?
MayorWest
Kaiser-Machead's WALL-E fetish
Posted 2:48 AM 21/8/08
Sorry Moto, my SE scoffs at thee.
Kaiser-Machead's WALL-E fetish
enine
Posted 2:45 AM 21/8/08
@Norcross:
I didn't say it didn't the wirter of the article did. my Winmo phone capitalizes as well. Since the writer said the motorola Q and not the Q9h/m/c its probably a bug/feature of winmo 5 which was on the original q.
Mine converts letters to numbers even, I can dial 1800byteme and it converts them for me.
enine
bluetoothguy
Posted 2:33 AM 21/8/08
I think this is more the case that the accountants took control... not the engineers. Ed Zander was focused solely on numbers and profits margins. This is the typical case for most publicly traded companies. It is a short-term solution (which is all he cared about).
Yes, I used to work for Motorola. I quit after the Galvin family lost control.
bluetoothguy
kaffeen
Posted 2:28 AM 21/8/08
@europria: I didn't think people existed that *only* used their mobile phone for, gasp, talking to people.......until I married my wife :)
kaffeen
J.T.
Posted 3:08 AM 21/8/08
Great column, Brendan. Thanks for the insight.
J.T.
djfoxx64
Posted 3:04 AM 21/8/08
TL:DR Moto = fail.
Always has, always will. There's many many many other worthy handset makers that have my full attention (trying to break eye contact from my iphone)
djfoxx64
lastpulse
Posted 2:52 AM 21/8/08
I've been using a Motorola RAZR since it came out and I haven't had any problems with it. I've actually been thinking about getting the Z9 with navigation. I only use my phone for phone calls, and as far as that type of phone I think Motorola's reception is one of the best.
lastpulse
anatak
Posted 4:05 AM 21/8/08
"I create-what do you do? You pick out colors?"
this isn't just at moto. But the article is right - the attitude is one thing, but allowing the actions is another.
anatak
twilight-arc
Posted 3:52 AM 21/8/08
@soulfinger: The engineers play a major part, but it is in line with what the people talking to the customers ask for. Does that make their life harder? Sure it does, but getting to do engineering within the bounds of the impossible to get a product out there that stands out must be a reward onto itself.
I am constantly amazed as to the level of engineering that goes into some of the Apple products and yet they are designed with the user in mind.
twilight-arc
otis123
Posted 3:52 AM 21/8/08
it made the original V3 razr which i bought for $500, and it was a piece of shit that looked cool and did nothing. then along came apple...
otis123
Bachblast
Posted 3:42 AM 21/8/08
I am on my 4th Motorola V9m since November. Every one having software problems (freeze ups on start). This was my 1st and probably last Motorola phone. What a disappointment. I would like to buy from an American company (keep the money here and all that) but when they continually abuse the consumers, well, who can blame anyone for going elsewhere?
Bachblast
M.A.S.
Posted 4:23 AM 21/8/08
@MayorWest: I live here too and I can tell you, Libertyville and Chicago are two very different places. Libertyville is as about white bread as any Chicago suburb.
M.A.S.
kaffeen
Posted 4:08 AM 21/8/08
@anatak : definitely not just a Moto thang. I work in R&D. This happens all the time. I'm one of those "I create" guys (lol).
kaffeen
str88f
Posted 4:42 AM 21/8/08
Guess many companies have similar problems, Philips springs to mind: stellar tech, moronic marketing. Many companies are capable of creating great technical feats, only a few are able to make technical feats that are actually usable (Apple, of course, Nokia ...err... there must be more)
str88f
NagChampa
Posted 5:44 AM 21/8/08
I wonder if an engineer designed those gargantuan radio headphones you see NFL coaches sport on their craniums? Talk about obnoxious design.
Anyway, this was a great article. I hope Motorola gets their shit together.
NagChampa
chrism123
Posted 5:30 AM 21/8/08
The IPhone has massive 3g problems. My girlfriend's iphone gets 49k/s in Manhattan. You still can't replace the battery without the jaws of life. The first phone they even soldered in the battery.
In my book, Motorola puts too much emphasis on engineering and Apple (much like microsoft) too much on the marketing.
Ironically, Motorola made the CPUs for Apple's PC's for years. Too bad Apple didn't partner up with Motorola on the Iphone.
I'm a happy HTC customer (Mogul on Sprint). Before that I was a Treo user (300/600/650). I'll probably get the Touch Pro on Sprint when it comes out.
chrism123
kaosfere
Posted 5:51 AM 21/8/08
@enine: "Linux has far exceed anyones expecations."
I don't think the article meant Linux in general, just Motorola's Linux Java platform, which has been a sinkhole of time and effort that will never recoup the costs put into it.
And yes, the general thrust of this story is absolutely correct. The company has kept itself mired in the engineering-only mindset, and has suffered for it. I work in the group that does UI and human factors for mobile devices, and believe me: there are a lot of smart and creative people here who *know* what consumers want and *want* to produce it, but the gap between low-level creative management and the upper echelons has just been much too large. I hope that spinning off Mobile Devices will help this. I hope the damage done and the loss of creative capital -- really, who *wants* to do user experience work for Motorola any more? -- isn't too great to recover from.
I suppose time will tell.
And yes, Libertyville sucks royally.
(Although it should be noted that a good chunk of the designers in my group work out of Chicago proper, not the L'ville campus.)
kaosfere
eliblack
Posted 6:29 AM 21/8/08
@soulfinger: Seriously? :)
Come on - Apple focuses on UI, but they certainly don't listen to their customers. They make products according to what Jobs thinks should be in them, and so far he's done a remarkable job, because he's an absolute visionary. But after he's gone...they'll be left with no direction, and terrible customer service.
eliblack
cduran02
Posted 7:26 AM 21/8/08
I happen to think that the modern engineer should be able to design also.
I'm a software engineer, but I happen to think I have a pretty good design sense. There have been plenty of times where suggestions I have made in user interface design have made it into products. I'm always brought into design meetings and give my input in design and engineering matters.
The way I see it the modern engineer can be a designer with engineering being the tool of the trade. Think of it like a painter, they know all the technicals of color mixing, lighting, etc. yet they paint wonderful things. In my case engineering is my brush and paints.
Motorola was just full of old school engineers, engineers that became engineers because they had little or no creativity in them. I became an engineer because I wanted to design and create cool stuff and had many ideas I wanted to see come to life.
cduran02
iomatic
Posted 7:12 AM 21/8/08
People don't get that design is not decoration.
iomatic
altus
Posted 8:13 AM 21/8/08
In phones, industrial design is critical. That's a discipline in itself. Software design is functional, user experience design is a combination of both.
To converge there needs to be one strong visionary leader like at Apple or so much market momentum (from the past) like at Nokia that you can try anything and see what sticks (n-gauge....).
What's tricky for Motorola is that they are in neither position to do this.
The new CEO comes from the semi-conductor industry. They need to complement with that visionary leadership. But where and how do you find it?
RIP?
altus
rospaya
Posted 8:19 AM 21/8/08
I love this kind of articles, that bring some in-depth insight into corporations who make the gadgets we love or hate.
Two good examples are the articles from Wired about making the iPhone, and BusinessWeek's "Building the perfect laptop" about the Lenovo X300.
Make more of those pls k thx bye.
rospaya
godwhacker
Posted 10:48 AM 21/8/08
startac
startac
startac
get me a new startac!!!!
godwhacker
skiplightly
Posted 11:38 AM 21/8/08
I'll take a zack morris phone with multi touch, k thx
skiplightly
enine
Posted 12:32 AM 22/8/08
@kaosfere:
Not the way its worded there. Thats why I say it wasn't a well written or researched peice. Same with the OS comments, those apply to other phones besides motorolas, anyone who used winmo on their smartphones.
enine
lead-balloon
Posted 4:42 AM 24/8/08
This article doesn't match the reality of it as I knew it. Mechanical (cellular handset) development engineers at motorola are the peons of the development process. Ask one why a button doesn't feel the way you think it should and he might tell you a story of how marketing wouldn't let him make the phone the 0.1mm larger for button travel and the EE's wouldn't find a smaller capacitor or move it to make space and how industrial design wouldn't let him move the key over 0.5mm or bump it out to avoid the capacitor. Meanwhile the testing requirements and subjective opinions of it had to be addressed. After the story you'll find it amazing that the button even works at all.
lead-balloon
silly_rabbit
Posted 1:08 AM 22/8/08
@J.T.:
Gizmodo got it wrong. Ralph Pini challenged his engineering team to make a 10mm clam/flip. When his engineers figured out enough of the puzzle for a thumbs-up, then the top brass got involved. Mr. Frost didn't even know about Razr until it had been vetted by the "we create it" people. True, he and others did run blocking so that it could see the light of day. But even StarTac started life the same way: Marketing doesn't come to engineering and say give me the next best thing - engineering (some of the most creative engineers anywhere) have internal shows for Marketing and Sr Leadership.
While we're on the subject: Chicago vs Libertyville? Many folks commute from Chicago, to the extent there is a shuttle bus between the Libertyville facilities and the train station.
Lastly: Shaddock was not run out. He was one of the people who ran blocking on Razr so it could see the light of day. Sr Leadership tried to keep him.
silly_rabbit
UziEpaphus
Posted 1:49 PM 21/8/08
It's always lovely when somebody shows their ignorance by making a stupid statement like "the deep Chicago suburbs, hardly a place awash in creative energy." Get over yourself Koerner...there's as much creative energy in the Chicago area as there is in NY, LA, SF or any other big city. The numb-brained people aren't the ones who aren't in the Bay Area, but the ones who think you have to be to be creative.
UziEpaphus
sauveterre412
Posted 10:59 AM 21/8/08
this sounds like neither the designers nor the engineers are as good as they think they are.. agree with the comment about engineer being designers and designer being engineers. that is the way palm worked when i was there and we rocked.
sauveterre412
yepiworkatmot
Posted 9:54 AM 21/8/08
As my username states, yep, I work at MOT.
This is a VERY fair article, one of the best and most insightful I've seen in a while. We're actually set up to fail given all the processes and double-checks, none of which actually do anything close to what they were intended to do.
We're overrun by project managers and know-it-all engineers who really don't understand jack-squat about what they really need to get working on.
ARRRRRRRGHHHHH!
Brownie isn't helping anything either, he's clueless. Sanjay might have a chance.
Also, a lot of the comments above are also spot-on. I really liked the "design isn't decoration" comment.
Oh, there's so damn much I could post about, but for now I'll just say that this is an insightful piece, but it only scratches the surface.
Now, having said all that, these are problems that a lot of big companies have, so we're not alone there, but the bumbling is a bit over the top at MOT.
yepiworkatmot
silly_rabbit
Posted 7:45 AM 21/8/08
Libertyville vs Chicago? I hope you're kidding: a huge portion of the folks working at Mot LV take the train in from Chicago every morning: there's even a shuttle bus from the station to the front door.
silly_rabbit
anonyengineer
Posted 5:25 AM 21/8/08
As a former Motorola employee and product design engineer, I have to say that half of the claims of this insider are incorrect. His/her qualms about software are dead-on, Mot never made a compelling effort at software, SW was primarily focused on making the HW work. This is one of Mot's biggest problems.
That said, although I am speaking as an engineer and thus biased, I find it appalling that he would single the engineers out as being prima donnas that stifled innovative development to the chagrin of marketing. And now here is where the left hand criticizes the right hand.
In my experience, it was more often than not the marketing team that dropped the ball and led products down the road of failure. I have seen too many cases of the marketing team "working closely" with the individual carriers to get product requirements only to realize that they did not get the full picture and forcing a last minute re-design. At that point, your prototypes are mature and if you want to ship when marketing wants to launch the products AND you want to design in all of these new features marketing "didn't know were requirements", the decisions you are forced with are unrealistic if you are trying to ship a good product.
There have been many ideas from engineering regarding UI, human interaction, ID, usability, that marketing took a look at and just said N-O. The idea of partnering with slingbox for use with next-gen products, immediately shut down. I would say that Motorola's problem is that the marketing department is full of people who have no technical understanding whatsoever and don't come up with their own ideas about what is innovative. Did engineering stifle them? No, they saw their jobs as getting customer requirements and doing what the customer wanted (customer being the carrier).
The other major contributor is executive management. This is more of a strategy decision, if you look at the products that have come out, it's obvious that Mot is just trying to stay afloat, keeping market share and the name brand by offering lots of low-tier free phones. The complaints on gizmodo and engadget of people seeing leaked phones and saying "booooring"... yeah that's not the engineers' fault, that's marketing and finance saying, you must make this much margin and you can only spend this much money on your BOM. Who is stifling design again?
If you asked me, marketing and management were driving the bus and made a big contribution to driving it off a cliff.
anonyengineer
Larry-Horse
Posted 5:01 AM 21/8/08
Libertyville is an awful, awful place. Chicago is fantastic, though. I've lived here all my life and don't want to go anywhere else.
I would love to work for Motorola, but I am not buying a car and commuting an hour each way for ANY job. I'm sure I'm not the only creative type here in Chicago, or across the country, really, who feels the same way.
True story: Someone I knew interviewed with Motorola about 5 years ago. She was excited because she thought she would be able to work on a cool new UI or something. No, the job was to design keypad lettering. That's it. Not the keypad itself, or the case around it, just the letters and numbers on the keys themselves. If the design team is that segmented, no wonder most Motorola phones look like they were designed by committee... because they were.
Larry-Horse