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Man Commits Suicide and Streams it On Webcam
Posted by Brian Lam at 10:05 AM on August 21, 2008
A man in Utah shot himself in the chest with a hunting rifle and died while his ex-girlfriend watched over a webcamera. Watching a loved one hurt themselves has to be terrible, but watching over the internet, helpless to stop it, has to be a lot worse. Terrible. [KSL]

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ttech10
Posted 2:04 PM 21/8/08
@DMcGrew: I about halfway expected there to be a link to a YouTube video of it.
But yea, that had to suck for her to go through this.
ttech10
itchytooth
Posted 2:03 PM 21/8/08
@ps61318:
True, but shouldn't commenters be allowed to shoot themselves in the chest foot?
itchytooth
godwhacker
Posted 2:03 PM 21/8/08
the ultimate act of selfishness
godwhacker
jakebathman
Posted 1:59 PM 21/8/08
@DMcGrew: hahaha oh wow, as bad as that was it was probably the funniest thing you could have said under the circumstances
jakebathman
itchytooth
Posted 1:55 PM 21/8/08
In the chest? Jeez, what a drama queen.
itchytooth
Anrui
Posted 1:54 PM 21/8/08
;__;
Anrui
DMcGrew
Posted 1:53 PM 21/8/08
wtf? no video?
DMcGrew
xaflatoonx
Posted 1:52 PM 21/8/08
friggin dumbass -
anyone who doesn't value life and think its worthless doesn't deserve it in the first place....
xaflatoonx
Mike918
Posted 1:49 PM 21/8/08
I don't know if making a funny comment in here would get you banned...so i won't.
Mike918
GhandeezWarPath
Posted 1:46 PM 21/8/08
That's F'd up
I'm moving to Canada
GhandeezWarPath
Con Seannery
Posted 1:42 PM 21/8/08
PUT SHOE ON HEAD! SHOE ON HEA..OH MY GOD!!!
Con Seannery
ps61318
Posted 1:37 PM 21/8/08
I'm tempted to ask you to disable comments on this one. Nothing good can come of this....
ps61318
Substance_D
Posted 2:29 PM 21/8/08
Video or it didn't happen.
Substance_D
cartman005
Posted 2:24 PM 21/8/08
Is the video on YouTube yet?
cartman005
MayorBee is Haulin' Ass...Gettin' Paid
Posted 2:16 PM 21/8/08
Did he say he was hardcore first?
MayorBee is Haulin' Ass...Gettin' Paid
Pablos102030
Posted 2:07 PM 21/8/08
This is why you don't ask /b/ for advice.
Pablos102030
MayorBee is Haulin' Ass...Gettin' Paid
Posted 2:56 PM 21/8/08
@cmantito: Turned it off? But he might have done something really crazy then!
MayorBee is Haulin' Ass...Gettin' Paid
Bokusatsu_Tenshi
Posted 2:54 PM 21/8/08
Sad... "ex-girlfriend"... probably the reason why he did it.
I wonder how the whole thing went. Maybe he asked one last time if they couldn't get back together before doing it.
Bokusatsu_Tenshi
cmantito
Posted 2:52 PM 21/8/08
Moving away from the guy and to the girl watching, why did she watch? I would've turned it off and called his local police. But oh well.
cmantito
Junginator
Posted 2:51 PM 21/8/08
Fire would have really made his point better.
Junginator
Naoki - Photoshop Ninja
Posted 2:51 PM 21/8/08
simply awful... my prayers are with their families.
Naoki - Photoshop Ninja
beardedkid
Posted 2:51 PM 21/8/08
But it's okay, he used the new iSight to make it look like he did it on the moon- hilarious!
beardedkid
thechansen
Posted 2:34 PM 21/8/08
@itchytooth: you would figure a shot to the head would be the proper way to do it?
thechansen
Anrui
Posted 2:32 PM 21/8/08
Shit, when did Gizmodo become 4Chan?
Anrui
fatASCurtis
Posted 3:09 PM 21/8/08
if some hoe dumped me i'd ruin her life, not mine
fatASCurtis
pauliedanger
Posted 3:00 PM 21/8/08
the real sad part is, she went AFK right before he did it.
pauliedanger
Naoki - Photoshop Ninja
Posted 2:58 PM 21/8/08
@cmantito: yeah, maybe it was the horror of the situation that clouded her judgement? or maybe she didn't have time to?
Naoki - Photoshop Ninja
MBPro
Posted 3:45 PM 21/8/08
@xaflatoonx: Or anyone who commits suicide had problems and we should sympathize. I went through a really depressing phase in my life but luckily I had my friends by my side and they helped me get through it. You might say he never deserved to live but I say if you can't feel sorry for people going through hard shit then you don't deserve to fucking live. Waste of oxygen, that's what you are.
Get a heart, you asshole.
MBPro
MayorBee is Haulin' Ass...Gettin' Paid
Posted 3:26 PM 21/8/08
@fatASCurtis: I'm pretty sure her life is pretty effed-up at this point.
MayorBee is Haulin' Ass...Gettin' Paid
Trowble (XBL/PSN)
Posted 4:30 PM 21/8/08
Sad really, there were other options he should have considered, as well as her. It shouldn't have even been a choice. I hope people are able to learn and grow from this, especially for the parties involved.
Trowble (XBL/PSN)
im2fools
Posted 4:26 PM 21/8/08
Sounds like hurting his ex was a big part of his plan. This sounds like a murder-suicide done in reverse order. Kudos to him for at least not taking his act on the road. As Dennis Miller once said, "Way to take one for the team, big guy!"
Ok, so I get how hunting rifles don't kill people, people do, but when was the last time you heard of a murderous rampage with sleeping pills and vodka?
im2fools
mildretard
Posted 4:19 PM 21/8/08
I am so happy to see a touch of decency in this thread. As for the rest of you fuckers, I hope it's under more gentle circumstances that you learn the meaning of compassion.
mildretard
wild homes loves you but chooses darkness!
Posted 5:01 PM 21/8/08
I feel sorry for him-- that he couldn't see that there were other, better choices available to him-- and for the girl. No one should have to witness something like that. I hope she can move on from it. Such a waste, it's really too bad.
wild homes loves you but chooses darkness!
krom
Posted 4:47 PM 21/8/08
f'king moron. i don't give a shit if he kills himself but hurting a person he once loved or might still love in such a cruel way is just a selfish act of stupity.
really felling sorry for the ex.
krom
SpeedyGonzalas
Posted 5:24 PM 21/8/08
Honestly, life is a tough bitch. I know. Sure, suicide is a seemingly viable option, although I encourage you to stay alive instead. Death may be a mistake.
But as for this asshole drama queen. make all the fun you want, as he is or was a selfish pussy for laying this shit off as a publicity stunt.
SpeedyGonzalas
alin0steglinski
Posted 5:47 PM 21/8/08
Can we get comments shut off on this post. I think we have had a enough nasty ones here.
alin0steglinski
HonusWScruggs
Posted 5:57 PM 21/8/08
Because it's nice to get a little insight into the people involved in these kinds of things, here's his MySpace page:
[www.myspace.com]
Beyond that, no comment.
HonusWScruggs
Kevin
Posted 6:30 PM 21/8/08
Quitter, he's a weak, selfish, coward and it's a good thing he has chosen to remove himself from the gene-pool.
As men in this day and age, I ask posters to stop being emasculated pussies, grab your pair, and call this man-child exactly what he has chosen to prove to the world that he is, a weak pussy.
At-ease men
Kevin
RebootEDC
Posted 6:58 PM 21/8/08
Most powerful pwned I've ever seen.
RebootEDC
Kevin
Posted 7:30 PM 21/8/08
The saddest part is to hear of all of the Vets that are committing suicide. Keep in mind, your average blue collar Vet has had control over $800K+ machinery, stood up when others ducked, and done things during missions that would make a normal citizen have a heart attack. (About like giving a wolverine a haircut)
Its National 'Give a Vet a hug day!'
Watch the original Rambo and hear his rant to Troutman near the end, its how we feel.
Stop being bitches men.
There are ladies in the civilian world I would rather go to combat with than some of you 'males'.
Kevin
Git Em SteveDave displays attention-grabbing vanity
Posted 8:54 PM 21/8/08
I just want to put forth a promise. If I ever do "have enough", I will stream it on JerseyCam, and will make sure to have my computer auto post it, and include links in my Giz profile. That's my guarantee to you. You might have to wait awhile, b/c I feel pretty good.
Git Em SteveDave displays attention-grabbing vanity
John Prado
Posted 8:39 PM 21/8/08
You can spare us about this kind of news don't you think?!?!?!?
John Prado
Curves
Posted 8:26 PM 21/8/08
The sad part is, he did it to inflict pain on her, to make her feel helpless and that she is to blame, and he has left many, the girl and his family and friends in pain. Emotional blackmail comes at a high price.
Reach out. Chose LIFE.
Curves
Aoi
Posted 9:18 PM 21/8/08
@DMcGrew: All I have to say is watch the movie Untraceable.
Aoi
kwicherbichin
Posted 9:28 PM 21/8/08
@Kevin: You fucking hapless twit.
To all you jackasses who call this guy weak and a pussy, know that most of the people in this world that commit suicide do so because of mental problems that are beyond their control. Its physiological, not bad choices on their part. So please have some fucking decency. Its sad the guy couldn't get help before this happened.
kwicherbichin
strider_mt2k
Posted 10:07 PM 21/8/08
Suicide stories with a link to technology are always going to suck from a human standpoint.
But the CLICKS the stories bring dear children, THE CLICKS!
The CLICKS make up for the fact that we're using someone's anguish and horror to further our ends, right?
strider_mt2k
transzoo
Posted 10:06 PM 21/8/08
I was hoping at first this was an invention to shoot people over the internet and that it could possibly be ported to Xbox Live, but alas this was a manual thing.
transzoo
bobojuice
Posted 10:39 PM 21/8/08
That's not funny, my cousin died that way.
bobojuice
craighyatt
Posted 10:39 PM 21/8/08
Asking for help shows confidence, courage, and strength-not weakness. No matter how hopeless and defeated you feel, a therapist can probably fix you in 6 weeks. So many people suffering for years. Hurting those around them. For nothing.
craighyatt
Kevin
Posted 10:36 PM 21/8/08
kwicherbichin, its attrition. Do I think every baby born with serious defects needs to live, do I believe every criminal needs rehabilitation, do I think every depressed self-absorbed sad pussy with a gun needs my pity?? Unequivocally NO.
Permanent solution to a temporary problem and I don't care if you are my best friend, kill yourself, and I will piss on your grave.
Kevin
Kevin
Posted 10:28 PM 21/8/08
'not bad choices on their part', I would call that the ultimate BAD CHOICE.
Kevin
UrIt
Posted 10:25 PM 21/8/08
geez, was the guy on anything, like taking a medication that messed with his head? if he had a girlfriend why not stay with her here?
and why make her watch? did he not give a crap about her?
it's just sad man, when some people die you can think "well they're in a much better place than we can get to in this life." but in this case it's just tragic, cause he's no where i wanna be right now.
prayers to his family and friends.
UrIt
Cupajo
Posted 10:22 PM 21/8/08
"To all you jackasses who call this guy weak and a pussy, know that most of the people in this world that commit suicide do so because of mental problems that are beyond their control."
That may be true, but to commit suicide on a webcam while your ex-girlfriend watches? That's a hostile act designed to make her suffer. It was a dick move and he was a weakling and an asshole for doing it. If someone is going to kill themselves I would rather they just do it. Don't take someone with you in some murder/suicide thing, don't put it on the internet so your family can watch. Just fucking do it and be done with it.
Cupajo
Kevin
Posted 10:55 PM 21/8/08
Its a black and white world. Even the word 'grey' seems like a whine
Kevin
Kevin
Posted 10:54 PM 21/8/08
No one else in the room pulled the trigger but him. Its about time people start taking responsibility for their actions.
Man with big kite. takes kite into hurricane winds. gets ass broke on building. whose fault was it??
Kevin
kwicherbichin
Posted 10:48 PM 21/8/08
@Cupajo: I am by no means making excuses for what the guy did. He unfortunately pulled someone else into the mix, which I do not condone.
@Kevin: I'm not saying you should agree with it, I'm saying its not necessarily the guy's fault.
kwicherbichin
Kevin
Posted 10:45 PM 21/8/08
Wanna make yourself tougher?? Read. Be an informed American. Make this country better than it was when you grew up.
Kevin
Benny Goldman
Posted 10:44 PM 21/8/08
@MayorBee is Haulin' Ass...Gettin' Paid: I am shocked that you are the only one who made this comment. Therefore, I'll join you and call this dude a poser. A sad, unfortunate poser, but a poser.
Benny Goldman
kevman90
Posted 10:41 PM 21/8/08
dude is there a video link. im trying to make my self tougher. body and mind :)
kevman90
diskdaddy
Posted 11:27 PM 21/8/08
@John Prado: Agreed.
Since when is a webcam a new and unusual gizmo? I come here for new and cool gadgets, not the evening news trying to fill time :P Pull up your socks Gizmodo, cripes.
Oh, I stubbed my toe and there's a TV in the room, want to post that too?
diskdaddy
Kevin
Posted 11:24 PM 21/8/08
Hahaha writing on MBPro
Kevin
Kevin
Posted 11:23 PM 21/8/08
OK, tell the next friend you have that wants to off him/her-self that you will piss on their grave if they do and see the results.
This guy was the heartless one, I am just not being tolerant of insolence. Be a man. Be a good example.
I love the weatherman bit
Kevin
Kaspir
Posted 11:22 PM 21/8/08
@MBPro: I'm sure it was a really depressing time when you realized that you were an 'in the closet' Mac user...but you worked through it, and that's what Steve would want.
Kaspir
vinnyr
Posted 11:13 PM 21/8/08
@Kevin: it was the weather mans fault the kiteboarder got his ass broke on a building, because the weather man controls the weather.
But I think you are being a little heartless about the man pulling the trigger. Some one who is suicidal is not thinking clearly, and needs help.
vinnyr
BEERxTaco
Posted 11:10 PM 21/8/08
@pauliedanger: the real sad part is, she went AFK right before he did it.
It's hard to make a funny comment about something like this, but that was pretty good...
Ya know, sometimes you have to use humor to deal with difficult things. As long as it isn't mean-spirited, I don't see a problem with it.
BEERxTaco
Shai
Posted 11:44 PM 21/8/08
Wow, the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saint's commercials are getting kind of dark.
Shai
SigmundTheSeaMonster
Posted 11:44 PM 21/8/08
Sad. But not the first case of this.
I recall watching Bud Dwyer(sp?) commit suicide at a news conference. Totally surprised as he pulled a handgun out of a bag, and pop. That was it.
When you lose someone close to you to suicide, you'll understand.
SigmundTheSeaMonster
bluebottle
Posted 12:09 AM 22/8/08
i'm surprised this hadn't happened already... i would have figured with a site like stickam out there, someone would have committed suicide over a webcam while someone capped it.
bluebottle
robo
Posted 12:01 AM 22/8/08
For those of you who want to shut off comments, you know, you don't have to read them, right?
Plug your ears, close your eyes, and go "A LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA".
robo
s8ist
Posted 12:00 AM 22/8/08
@Kevin:
If there's anything that has actually shortened the collective lifespan of the male, it's the disconnect between emotion and communication. This is partly the reason why men have shorter life expectancy. Basically, your argument for survival is nonsense. You just want 'men' to be 'manly men' by whatever standard you employ which appears to be a narrow definition. Why are you so concerned with sustaining a standard of masculinity? Suicide has much less to do with gender than it does mental problems. While I think your bravado makes for a proud tribute that others can grunt, gawk, and say "no he di'int!," or "RAAAR, Man Rule!," I doubt very seriously if you would maintain your pact to urinate on the grave of a family member if he chose to kill himself. Black and white makes you feel comfortable because you don't have to contemplate or analyze anything seriously. You shouldn't expect humanity to behave as simply as you think.
s8ist
RE-L
Posted 12:30 AM 22/8/08
@s8ist: I think you have a very good point there. Men in many cultures are taught since early age to be the strong one, the one who never cries, never breaks down. No wonder so many snap.
RE-L
RE-L
Posted 12:26 AM 22/8/08
@Curves: Exactly my thoughts. That must have been his goal. Mission accomplished.
RE-L
lpranal
Posted 12:51 AM 22/8/08
@Kevin: reminds me of a quote I read the other day that really stuck with me (not sure whom to attribute it to): "America is not at war. The marines are at war. America is at the shopping mall."
Stuff like this should be a wakeup call to those who don't understand the sacrifices our soldiers are making every single day, while we're watching "reality TV" and plugging our ears. I'm not saying that being in combat caused this, but when 1 in 4 soldiers in iraq suffers things like PTSD and depression,and some people are going to take it worse than others, you have to wonder.
lpranal
wolfenstein-3d
Posted 1:25 AM 22/8/08
I'm normally witty enough to come up with something enlightening or funny, but i've got nothing here.
wolfenstein-3d
banmojo
Posted 1:49 AM 22/8/08
@xaflatoonx: umm, depression IS a disease, like it or not. it's been clearly shown time and again that when depressed suicidal patients are treated properly (with counselling/medication) their risk of committing suicide goes down significantly.
Or maybe this was a Darwin's award and this dumbnut was planning on a 'replay'?
banmojo
king_of_fools
Posted 2:33 AM 22/8/08
People and talk down about the guy but he didn't hurt anyone else and he wasn't doing something that was habit forming so its not like he is gonna keep doing it over and over; totally a one time thing.
king_of_fools
psavas
Posted 3:15 AM 22/8/08
@Substance_D: This is real. This happened. I live in SLC, and it made the local newspaper yesterday.
psavas
Delano_J
Posted 3:07 AM 22/8/08
@Cupajo:
You don't know this woman personally, why would you even care? She was probably a bitch for all you know. This is what she gets for hooking up with a psycho. This whole situation screams TV movie, to me.
A guy killing himself in front of his ex girlfriend is perfectly lulzy.
Delano_J
HeartBurnKid, creepy morbid freak
Posted 3:00 AM 22/8/08
I am so tempted to make an "An Hero" joke, but I won't.
My heart goes out to the ex.
HeartBurnKid, creepy morbid freak
aec007
Posted 2:58 AM 22/8/08
Terrible.
But if it was an IBM commercial it would end on:
"Can I get his laptop?"
;(
aec007
DeusExMach
Posted 3:48 AM 22/8/08
@Brian Lam: Well, yeah, that had to suck to watch... but imagine how much worse it would have been if she'd have caught the performance live and in person...
DeusExMach
Brian Lam
Posted 3:40 AM 22/8/08
Just think of what that poor woman is going through now.
Brian Lam
Nemesisesq
Posted 3:34 AM 22/8/08
@DMcGrew: Thank god I didn't say it first
Nemesisesq
DeusExMach
Posted 3:28 AM 22/8/08
Top ten reasons not to kill yourself:
10. It makes an awful mess, and that's just rude.
9. Death is not painless. Even though you might believe you'll have "checked out" of your body, your body is still going to feel it, and there's a chance your mind will too.
8. Ponies and rainbows.
7. Wendy's Spicy Chicken Sammich. Yum!
6. You'll never get to play Duke Nukem Forever.
5. Kevin will think you're a pussy and piss on your grave, and possibly take a dump on your headstone.
4. She's not worth it.
3. If you're killing yourself because you feel like your life is outside of your control, all you've done is prove that you couldn't control the one thing in the world you should be able to: Yourself.
2. The terrorists win.
1. Sex with every woman you have never had sex with.
To those who think people who make smartass comments are heartless: you're retarded. One of the best ways to deal with a difficult situation is to crack a joke to lighten the mood. Maybe if the guy had laughed more, he wouldn't have offed himself. This goes to those suggesting we "turn off the comments" as well. If we can't talk about it, we can't learn and grow from it. And isn't that the whole point of Giz's comment system? The free and open exchange of ideas, new tech, and dick and fart jokes?
To Kevin: You're an R-tard, plain and simple. You're lucky you've never been in this guy's place. You don't get it, and you never will. But, hey... if you're ok with it, I'm ok with it.
Despair and revenge have never made good bedfellows. Obviously, this guy wanted to kill himself, or he wouldn't have done it. The fact that he was on webcam with his ex suggests a conversation like this happened:
Douche: I can't live without you, babe. You tore my heart out, and I want to die.
Bag: I want you to die, too, Douche.
Douche: Really? 'Cause I have this gun, and I'm going to kill myself with it.
Bag: Yeah, right. You're a fucking pussy, and you don't have the balls. If you had Hair-1 on your sack, you'd pull that trigger
Douche: Knock knock.
Bag: Who's there?
Douche: Brian Lam.
Bag: Brain Lam, who?
...and the rest is history.
DeusExMach
robinandtami
Posted 4:15 AM 22/8/08
@s8ist: *Clap Clap Clap*
At first I just thought Kevin was an ass.
Then I got to his "life really is black and white" comment and realized he was an ignorant ass.
robinandtami
orphic1
Posted 4:07 AM 22/8/08
@DeusExMach: Speaking as someone with experience (I lost my last girlfriend to suicide in June) I was thankful that it didn't happen at my house and especially that I did not witness the act. I can't even imagine how much more traumatized I would be if that had happened (though I am still pretty messed up as it is right now) so my heart definitely goes out for the girl.
Suicides a fucked up thing and humor is good to help express emotion but people really need to lay off attacking the dude even though it's pretty messed up the way he did it. Not one person on this site knows what he was going through and who are we to judge him and call him names.
Yes he did a fucked up thing, many people every year do, show some decency. This was a man with a life and friends and an ex girlfriend who will "probably" never forget that day.
orphic1
ichi1
Posted 4:03 AM 22/8/08
Why did she watch???
ichi1
Kevin
Posted 5:33 AM 22/8/08
This is not an argument for survival.
All that I was saying is that this guy decided to off himself, quit, give up. I think it was a pussy way out, cowardice. I also think the world is a better place without him in it.
For those that think I am an ignorant clod. I don't care what you think. Stop making excuses for this guy and be glad it wasn't your daughter or sister on the other end of the video.
Btw, I do not grunt, I prefer the backhand to the sternum.
Kevin
Human Bomb
Posted 5:27 AM 22/8/08
>_< Every aspect of that event sucks. From the guy killing himself and no one intervening, to that girl who -regardless of whatever she may or may not have done to exacerbate the situation- didn't need to see him do it. Sure, act tough, judge the guy, make fun of him/her, and talk about how you'd do it, but your only making it a more ridiculous suckfest and ruining other people's ideas of how a normal person should respond to a tragedy.
I saw a friend the day before he shot his head off standing in front of his girlfriend's house. Dude seemed fine then. No one who knew him, and I mean even the most jaded asshole, made fun of his death. He was just a good guy who did something unanimously thought by us to have been a bad move. Comedy is a great way to deal with suicide or anything you fear, but we just moved on.
Human Bomb
Kevin
Posted 5:22 AM 22/8/08
I doubt very seriously if you would maintain your pact to urinate on the grave of a family member if he chose to kill himself. Black and white makes you feel comfortable because you don't have to contemplate or analyze anything seriously. You shouldn't expect humanity to behave as simply as you think.
Black and white, right and wrong. I have no respect for quitters and that goes for family members as well. I have had both friends and family off themselves and I choose to tolerate nothing about it. Stop making excuses for cowardice.
To Kevin: You're an R-tard, plain and simple. You're lucky you've never been in this guy's place. You don't get it, and you never will. But, hey... if you're ok with it, I'm ok with it.
I have been in this guys place many of times. Depression is a normal human emotion. I got over it and moved on. You actually sound as though you are sorry for this guy that decided to off himself in front of his lady/ex-lady trying to hurt her.
At first I just thought Kevin was an ass.
Then I got to his "life really is black and white" comment and realized he was an ignorant ass.
People make thing complicated however things, most often times, can be reduced to black and white, right and wrong.
Kevin
Hamburger-helper
Posted 5:58 AM 22/8/08
@mildretard: Coming from "mildretard" i couldn't really say your a hypocrite
Hamburger-helper
adocious
Posted 5:51 AM 22/8/08
@Kevin: This post proves what a complete and utter fool you are. Thinking of the world as black and white to justify your behavior and your words is a cop-out. Part of being a man is being honest with oneself, and if you're honest with yourself it's pretty difficult to see the world in black and white because reality isn't that simple.
Lots of people who speak of "being a man" don't know the first step down that road.
adocious
fatASCurtis
Posted 5:44 AM 22/8/08
fact of the matter is, people commit suicide for more reasons than being weak and sad, and more reasons than having a chemical deficiency. the deed is done. you arguing is doing nothing but create negativity. either make a witty comment to lighten the atmosphere or quit analyzing why he bucked himself.
fatASCurtis
yashichi8bit
Posted 6:41 AM 22/8/08
@Kevin: Yeah, first time I submitted a story to Giz and its got nearly 100 comments.
I didn't know the guy myself but I have known someone that killed himself in front of his wife in similar fashion. It has brought back memories of that friend when I read this story.
I still don't understand when people like this who are so sad, that somehow they can justifiably force someone else to feel 'their' pain.
Fuck'd up way to go.
yashichi8bit
Kevin
Posted 6:26 AM 22/8/08
I likey this thread, its con-te-ro-ver-si-al
Kevin
Kevin
Posted 6:23 AM 22/8/08
come on now, you KNOW you want to 'back-hand' someone
Kevin
DeusExMach
Posted 6:16 AM 22/8/08
@Kevin: Dude, that'll just hurt the back of your hand. Palm-heel-strike, yo. Just be careful on your angle of attack... the last thing we want is to argue over why you decided to off yourself by slitting your wrists with some other-dude's sternum...
Suicide's easy... Comedy... now THAT's hard.
DeusExMach
DeusExMach
Posted 6:11 AM 22/8/08
@ichi1: Two words: Train. Wreck.
DeusExMach
craighyatt
Posted 7:47 AM 22/8/08
Seriously. Two common illnesses need a trip to the doctor *now* ... if you think you feel chest pain or you think you are depressed, just go. Nobody will think you are foolish. A doctor visit is way cheaper than a funeral.
craighyatt
ShabazOSU
Posted 10:11 AM 22/8/08
Break.com had a suicide like this posted last year. Cops had arrested a guy & in the process of getting him situated in the interrogation room, he grabbed the officers gun, put it in his mouth, and voilĂ ...
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vinnieg
Posted 11:25 AM 22/8/08
Yeah i saw the one on break a while ago, the cop one with the fat guy who looks kind of like saddam hussein,
there's also one when a guy drops his girlfriend off at her place, they hug, then when she goes inside, he pulls out a gun and BOOM, headshot!!!, all caught on CCTV, talk about stink for the chick involved
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Edi_bOMB
Posted 1:10 PM 22/8/08
No footage?
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kathartik
Posted 3:03 PM 22/8/08
@Kevin: whoa whoa whoa. let's not be presumptuous. not all of us are americans. this is the internet and I'm sure we represent just about every developed country in the world.
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Kevin
Posted 6:52 PM 22/8/08
Everyone deserves liberty, even all non-Americans
Kevin
s8ist
Posted 2:22 AM 23/8/08
@Kevin: "Black and white, right and wrong. I have no respect for quitters and that goes for family members as well. I have had both friends and family off themselves and I choose to tolerate nothing about it. Stop making excuses for cowardice."
Did you piss on their graves? What exactly did you do to show that you didn't 'tolerate' their suicides?
It's obvious that you've been hurt personally, so I'm not going to prod any further, but I think it would serve you well not to write off those who've been close to you as a matter of some arbitrary ideal of whether or not they were manly enough. It would at least honor their memory better than labeling them pussies.
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ichi1
Posted 4:11 AM 23/8/08
@DeusExMach: Ok I read a story where this guy filmed himself die. He tied a rope round his neck and the other round a tree he then got in a convertible and accelerated ripping his head off. He had ran up a shite load of debts so his wife had no money and cancelled his life insurance.
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Kevin
Posted 4:46 AM 23/8/08
Did you piss on their graves? What exactly did you do to show that you didn't 'tolerate' their suicides?
I showed no pity for the cowards.
It's obvious that you've been hurt personally, so I'm not going to prod any further, but I think it would serve you well not to write off those who've been close to you as a matter of some arbitrary ideal of whether or not they were manly enough. It would at least honor their memory better than labeling them pussies.
I never wrote them off, they did that when they gave up. I am a big fan of life and hate to see people waste theirs.
Death is a different animal for me altogether, I have seen so much of it. For people to choose death without some heroic reason, (saving someone else) in fact choose cowardice. Coward = Pussy
Kevin
Barion
Posted 9:40 PM 23/8/08
@Kevin: Depression is not a normal human emotion. Sadness is a normal human emotion. Clinical depression is a biochemical and psychological disorder that affects more than just mood. It affects how the mind processes information, it affects metabolism, sensitivity to pain, and a host of other things. Depressed people simply don't live in the same world as the rest of us. The same goes for all kinds of other psychopathology, like bipolar or schizophrenia. Would you call someone weak for having paranoid delusions and hallucinations stemming from brain chemistry defects? These symptoms can lead to some extreme behavior, including harming self and others. But we can't hold them personally accountable for their behavior while under the effects of their disorder. If one has full control over one's actions, that's one thing, but even today, too many people want to dismiss mental illness as a deficiency of character...which I liken to someone saying color blindness is a character flaw...and if you had backbone, you really could see those colors.
Does this mean that every suicide should be held blameless? No, obviously not. Some people who kill themselves aren't beset by a mental illness that interferes with their ability to function reasonably. That's why you have to take each case individually...hence the lack of a true black and white, which implies an all or nothing rubric. One size does not fit all.
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lynMp
Posted 7:21 PM 25/8/08
I am soo shocked that this is even on this site. I know that I shouldn't be reading stuff like this but I can't help it, I loved Brent and he's not here to defend himself. Let me start by telling by saying a little about Brent, he was a former CDF firefighter, he ran into many a fire without looking back, to save lives, a coward he was not. He even wanted to join the military to support and protect his friends that were there. I stopped him from doing this but the point is that he was a loyal friend and was willing to do anything in his power to save his loved ones and any he could from pain. How many of you can say that you did so much? Look Brent saved lives, that was his profession, not because he was some suicidal psycho but because he was a great guy with a heart of gold. And for all of those people that feel it necessary to pity me for what I saw, which by the way, wasn't AFK at all. What I saw was someone who for one small moment of an outstanding life lost touch of reality, what I saw wasn't the Brent we all knew and loved, it was someone who had no grasp on reality, just for long enough to make one bad decision. There was no reason, this wasn't planned to hurt anyone and I called the cops and did everything in my power to stop it but it was all very fast. I have no regrets and know that for the short amount of time it took him to do this, he was ill and that's not cowardice people, it sucks but some of have weak and dark moments where we can't see beyond what we feel and he was beyond himself at that point. I am not traumatized or ruined my only pain comes from the lack of my best friend in my life and that sucks but all those that loved Brent are getting through this time together, his family, my family and myself have become closer than we ever thought possible. So before you think of accounting blame to anyone, or saying something stupid, like "where's the you-tube video" try to have some decency and be humble enough to acknowledge the fact that you are ignorant to the many circumstances that led to this and that there are many people out there trying to defend this outstanding guy just like he defended us a billion times over.
-Lyn
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DeusExMach
Posted 8:29 AM 26/8/08
@lynMp: Right on. Stay strong.
DeusExMach
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Posted 3:59 PM 22/8/08
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itsme010709
Posted 3:57 PM 22/8/08
ok all i have to say is NONE of you personally know brent or lyn (the ex girlfriend) well, i do. she did everything she could to make him stop what was going on. she is the one (tons of miles away) that made the call to the police, she is is one that stayed on the webcam for over an hour trying to talk him out of doing what he did. none of you know the dynamics of their relationship and who (if anyone) was to blame. i just dont understand how so many people can make assumptions on him or her when you dont even know them! this is such a sad event, nobody is even talking about the effects it will have on her, his fam etc. and btw the comments about 'when is it on youtube?' 'where is the videofeed?' grow up people! if this were to happen to someone in your family you wouldnt say such stupid things! people always have such ridiculous comments on things they know nothing about.
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ilovewebcams
Posted 3:42 PM 21/8/08
idiot: please can we give it one more chance...
ex-gf: i keep saying no, you are so emotional! i just wanna be friends.
idiot: :~( i guess i have no choice
ex-gf: brb
idiot:
ex-gf: hey you spilled kool-aid all over yourself again idiot!
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