If my 8800GT dies, it better do it before March of next year, so it's still under warranty!

GeekyNerdGuy

Come to think of it, haven't they scheduled the apocalypse a few times as well? I try to keep track of the day, but sometimes it gets hard to keep up.

sqeakytoy of the apocalypse

But batboy's 8800 gts just died... it has to be true.

sqeakytoy of the apocalypse

This sounds more like the Enquirer than the Inquirer. Wonder what the truth is? Did someone see the Virgin Mary in the screen burn-in from one of these? That would be worth reading about.

ps61318

Hrmm.. hope my 8800GTS does not blow up. But I also hope AMD stock finally starts going up.. I wouldn't be surprised if they were behind this.

DMF

Something told me to hang on to my 7600 GS AGP card.

Oh yeah, it was the AGP slot in my aging computer. :(

Noted for future reference.

strider_mt2k

Doesn't the inquirer lie? Aren't they known for posting only rumors?

well, my 8800gts 640mb EVGA Nvidia card is still working great...

dan6920

Not BS. I was just about to buy a new Macbook Pro 17 incher, but cancelled my order after reading on various Mac forums about Macbooks having major video issues. The macbook has one of the nvidia graphics chips in question.

CrownSeven

Anybody actually RTFA? Didn't think so... Lots of knee-jerk reactions here -- quickly jumping to Nvidia's defense because you own one of their cards or something. Clearly it seems like there is a problem. Whether many of you have experienced it or not is another story. It seems to apply more to OEM cards.

stradric

@metalgear08: Unfortunately, there *have* been cases of MacBook Pros' GPUs failing. Mine failed about a month ago. Here's the most detailed of several related threads at Apple's Support Discussion Boards:
[discussions.apple.com]

mikejonas

Overclocked 8800GTS 640MB has been going strong for well over a year.... methinks this is bullshit.

UofITom

We're all gonna die sometime ... it's not IF, it's when.

GeekyNerdGuy

I love my x1900!

Elijah86

My 8800 GTS died a few days ago.

Elliuotatar

@schrosa:

My guess is that NVIDIA doesn't want all the details of its problems leaking out, and suing the inq would probably cause this to happen.

Doesn't mean what the inq prints isn't 95% FUD though.

Franklin Comes Alive!

i don't follow this part, "(every 8-series card up to the 8800 basically)"

so, does that mean from the 9000 series down to the 8800 or all the 8000s and all the 9000s.

i have 2 8600s that seem to be just fine and i haven't really been following this because of it.

whiplashchick

I've noticed that the idle temp of my 8800GT has slowly been rising since I got it in November... I figured it might be just dust :S

That said, if it dies on me, it gives me an excuse to get an HD4850...

Sportyboard

So wait, does this mean the GPU in my MacBook Pro ISN'T defective? Cuz I just bought this thing last month, and I really hope it doesn't die on me anytime soon. I'm too poor for another one.

metalgear08

So... first it was the 8400M on laptops (mine failed), and now this?
What's happening?

Though I have plenty of friends who has those cards and didn't complain so far.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

Sounds like someone at the Inquirer is interested in getting a good deal on Nvidia stock to me.

Monty

I feel like theres more to this story that inq is strategically not mentioning. Like "...going bad at high rates (when trying to run all of time square off of one 8800)." or something ridiculous most end users wouldn't be affected by.

kahri

The 8800GTX still appears safe, what about the Superclock edition though?

IMO, The Inquirer is full of crap, just my 2 cents.

MagnoliaBoy

How do you NOT get sued for printing stuff like this?

schrosa

You know, after the run on Bear Stearns this kind of crap must stop. I bet someone connected to the asshole who wrote the Inquirer article is tied to a hedge fund. Some funds will profit big time buy speading these dumb unsubstatiated rumors and watching their shorts and puts rise in value.

Noobs-R-Us

Who knows why, but Charlie at the inq has a major beef against NVIDIA. I would take this as severe FUD until corroborated elsewhere.

Franklin Comes Alive!

Yay, my 8800 GTX is safe. :P

NightBlade

My problem with these stories is that most of these cards have been out for a while now, and there has been little or no wailing and gnashing of teeth over cards dropping dead that I've seen.

I'm sure some of these cards do die, but if there was an unusually high rate of failure, especially in something that sold in droves like the 8800gt, the internerds would be all over that and screaming bloody murder.

I have totally missed that drama despite spending a lot of time browsing exactly the kinds of places that would be on the leading edge of the inevitable hysteria wave that something like this would cause... if it was real...

The Inq keeps saying it, and it keeps not happening.

MartinX

@diabolusunknownTheSecond: The GTX is not included in that list.

I would venture a guess to say that this new high rate of failure coincides with the Folding @ Home GPU client being released for nVidia cards several weeks ago. I would also guess that the cards that are failing are due to heat related issues because of either cheap cooling solutions, poorly applied thermal paste, or a card bios that defaults the fan speed at something less than 100% to keep the noice down.

dicknervous

sounds like fud to me. inq is notoriously pro ATi

draiko

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Not my 8800gt alpha dog!! Please God!!! Please have mercy!!!

Please don't take Vera away from me!!! She's been rendering TES IV at max specs perfectly. Why would you take her away from me?

TendoMentis

Hmmm... Both my 8800GTS and 9800GTX run strong. Overclocked pretty solid as well. I wonder what the cause is...

Log1c

YAY!!! this means.... i could send in my "defective" 9800 and 9600 for a brand new model! BANZAI!

Nvidia- *zoink*

reiyaku

Ill believe it when my nearly 2 year old 8800gtx goes to the shitter.

Still working strong.

diabolusunknownTheSecond

If you work at NVIDIA or own stock I'd update the old resume and have my broker on speed dial. Just to be safe.

WilCon

@CrownSeven: I'll bite. So you state that its a defect that is related to heat, (now I realize neither of us know exactly what the defect is, but lets run your scenario to the end). As an avid overclocker I push all my hardware past what the factory sets it at, which will generate far more heat than the stock setting. Now as a poster on an overclocking forum, where everyone pushes their hardware past stock. You would think that if this was a problem at least someone would have had a card fail? Especially since most of us are still using the stock cooler.

@MagnoliaBoy: You'd hear it first from all the computer enthusiast forums: hardocp.com, ocforums.com, xtremesystems.org, and on and on. Plus since all those people are internet savvy... digg/gizmodo/slashdot/etc would go up in flames.

Now! This is where my experience ends, if you look at the laptops, those chips often have poor cooling and run quite hot (as your can often tell) so I don't doubt that some of those cards die, but when looking at the desktop cards... I seriously doubt it.

Log1c

@iotashan: No, because Apple products NEVER BREAK, do they?!

Collins1

I had 2 nvidia cards with nothing but problems. Random blue screen of death in xp and vista, and locks up in linux video card related. Finally i gave up and got a used ati card, that works great without issue. So they might be on to something

Digitallysick

Wait, last time they said all the cards up to but not including the 8800's were "bad." I know its the Inquirer, but how about some clarification. Are the previous ones mentioned in the last article no longer "bad?"

DashTheHand

@MagnoliaBoy: Exactly.

Consider the source. It's the freakin' Inquirer. Not to be confused with the National Enquirer, breaker of news and ender of a certain former Presidential candidate's political career.

OMG! Ponies! Deservs It

Wouldn't we be hearing from the Apple fans if this were a problem? I mean, the 8800GT was the best card available in the Mac Pro up till a few weeks ago.

iotashan

So it's a good thing that I just bought a 3870?

Xerloq

Also Nvidia's stock is at 11.10 right now. So, who knows what the InQ is up to.

DARSFOG

It seems interesting to me, after reading all the posts this morning, that only 1 person @Elliuotatar: has had a card die. Now I know Gizmodo posters, and when something like this comes up and there is an issue, there will be about hundred posts in under 30 minutes girding for the very souls of Nvidia CEOs to replace their beloved video cards. I perused the article and found it to be full of smoke and mirrors and hearsay. So without real world 1st person examples or confirmable or otherwise anecdotal evidence, this entire subject is hereby deemed FUD and or CRAP.

MagnoliaBoy

@OMG! Not-My-Birthday!: Scratch that. GeForce 8400 GT may have problems - at least according to disreputable source The Inquirer.

OMG! Ponies! Deservs It

@diabolusunknownTheSecond:

Someone already pointed it out but the GTX wasn't included in the story. Oddly enough, my 8800GTX broke in June. However, everyone I talked to had never experienced problems with the 8800 cards and were a bit surprised.

Luckily that break down was well timed since nVidia launched the GTX 200 line a couple weeks later and the manufacturer of my card sent me a GTX 260 to replace my 8800GTX since they stopped making them in favor of the new series.

Aside from my card that isn't actually included in the story I'd say it's bogus.

Shavo

My 8600GT XXX is going strong, and so is the free copy of Company of Heroes it came with. Long live the 8600GT.

Kirk Douglas

my 8600 is just fine.... runs all my games top notch with no problems...
I call shenanigans!

DARSFOG

that isn't alot of Graphics cards.....it's all the ones they make except the 200 series. I'm going to have to call BS on this one. Maybe Nvidia paid for the story to sell the 280GTX?

Ryanraven

It's ironic that I'm reading this today, because last night I'm pretty sure my ATI card went to silicon heaven.

Navin R Johnson

@CrownSeven: sorry that was meant for Log1c - need more coffee.

CrownSeven

@stradric - You said it, 'they are dying'. The issue is the material they used to build the chips, there's a defect in the processing that causes it to wear out faster due to heat.

So it may be fine today, maybe even a year from now, but it will not last as long as it should.

Which is why there is no way I'm plunking down 3 large on a new macbook, knowing that it will fail sooner than it should, and who knows what Applecare will do for me when it does.

CrownSeven

Well my GeForce 8400 GT seems to be safe... except from me.

I did a dumb thing and installed Vista Ultimate 64 (was running Small Business x68) and while Vista 64 makes some 64 bit programs run a lot faster, NVidia doesn't have 64-bit drivers yet.

OMG! Ponies! Deservs It

@stradric: Er, I won't defend corporations just stating facts. But if his article were true shouldn't my card have died? Hell, shouldn't the computer enthusiest forum I post on be up in flames! because all their 8800's are dying?

Log1c

my baby is still running beautifly, 8800 Ultra. I dont buy this.

TinyLightning

@GeekyNerdGuy - don't worry, i'm sure in the next driver update nvidia will turn down the performance, and increase the fan speed in an attempt to try and get your card to last a little longer so when it does fail, it'll happen out of warranty.

Oh don't think so? Its already been done.

And for those who don't believe the inquirer, check out these statements from HP:

[news.cnet.com]

and

[www.techspot.com]

CrownSeven

I knew there was a good reason I stuck to my 7800 (aside from the lack of funding).

ripfire

@stradric: Yeah because having a card that hasn't died on you doesn't count. Good luck believing what the Inquirer states on anything.

@Franklin Comes Alive!: Too low, more like 99.9%

Log1c

Pretty sad. Nvidia, even if the cards aren't nearly as defective as purported, is handling this situation wrong. Manufacturers of machines are outing their problems (like Dell a few weeks back) instead of them just being upfront with the consumers who are sinking a lot of money into their products.

What's even worse for Nvidia is that ATI is looking rock solid right now, comparatively. With this news, I'm sure a lot of new buyers are passing on Nvidia and going with ATI cards.

michaelportent

We have a number of 2.66 DC Intel Xeon MacPros where I work. So far, we have seen a number of NVidia GeForce 7300 GTs hat have failed with same symptoms: artifaction across the screen, resembling the old "game screen sprites" from the Atari days. They would multiply, start pulsing, strobing and finally lead to the incessant kernel panics or inability to boot. Some machines even went into a constant rebooting loops. When opened to take a peek, all looked the same, the two capacitors adjacent to the processor heat sink would be blown up like a paper bag. Had to replace them all. Our service rep basically has a standing order for adapters so they can replace them as fast as they fail, or so they say.

tabaks

@lilaliendog: Damn it you beat me to it! It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was just that.

Mr.SithNinja

@El Guano: What?!! Macs are superior machines and don't crash ... EVER.

GeekyNerdGuy

There are a lot of posts here saying that the inq only posts lies. You guys seem to forget that they've called many of the big tech sector happenings for the last few years.

Battery epidemic...you saw that first on the inq.
DAAMIT merger...you saw that first on the inq too.
XP SP3...first on the inq.
Vista SP1...first on the inq.

I could go on, but the inq is notorious for ending up with the big stories way before anyone will admit it.

For the last 5 years, it's been the first site I read in the morning, and though I realize that a portion of what they write needs to be taken with a grain of salt, they are usually right.

RamV10

sounds like one dude at the inq fried his vpu trying to overclock and is blaming nvidia for his own mistakes.

lilaliendog

my friends 8800 mobile crashes his computer if he runs a game anything more powerful than Counter Strike source, but outside of that i have never heard of an 8800 of anykind crashing, i had on in the worst case possible for a short time and it never even overheated.

stryker1800

I could see this one coming. The mobile 8800gs in my iMac will crash my machine just on heavy aperture usage. At first I suspected the lack of cooling in the chassis, but a defective video chipset would cause the same problem.

El Guano

@Digitallysick: Well, not to be totally declarative, we don't know for sure--this is the Inquirer's word and apparently holy mission.

matt buchanan

@DashTheHand: They're bad too. The Inquirer is saying every G84 and G86 plus every G92 and G94 based card is bad. Which is like, most of the 8 and 9 series cards. Before it looked like the G92s (the 8800 and 9800 cards) weren't affected.

matt buchanan

IDK, maybe 10yrs ago when we didn't know about every products' problems way before any media 'reported' it. Nowadays, we don't hear about product failures from the media. The media finds out from us. I call shenanigans.

kahri

@jkr's bold comment: You do know that the National Enquirer broke the John Edwards story, right?

Since John Edwards admitted on Friday that he did, in fact, have an affair largely as reported by the National Enquirer, I'm not so quick to dismiss them.

OMG! Ponies! Deservs It

@Log1c: Don't get me wrong, if my card dies and its nvidia's fault I'll be pissed!

Log1c

Yay for me being poor and having integrated graphics!
I actually don't even have any graphics since my monster 13 year old CRT monitor fried yesterday (literally, with sparks, fire, and smoke) I am still trying to figure out how to get this shitty laptop's screen hooked up to my less shitty Dell.

mferrari

BTW, since the Nation Enquirer, I don't trust anything that uses the word "enquirer".

jkr's bold comment

My 8800GTS died last month.

spenc938

@Noobs-R-Us: "...I bet someone connected to the asshole..."
I see what you did there.

jkr's bold comment

well..hopefully bfg's 10year\limited warrenty should cover any issue i have with my 9800 gtx..

brodie123

@Joseph_Shaw_520: It depends. Did you buy the computer with a credit card? If so, look to see whether your credit card doubles the warranty. Many do.

OMG! Ponies! Deservs It

@OMG! Ponies! Deservs It: "The Enquirer makes no secret of the fact that it will pay sources for tips, a practice generally frowned upon by the mainstream press. At least one prominent story, connected to the Elizabeth Smart case, had to be retracted after it was revealed that two informants had fabricated false information. The informants had been paid a large sum for the story. Allegations have been made that various false stories ("Trojan Horses") have been sold to the Enquirer in order to compromise its credibility.
In recent years it has sought to establish a reputation for reliable journalism and had some success, often scooping other media on the O.J. Simpson and Monica Lewinsky stories" [en.wikipedia.org]
Yeah, I know, but what is this world coming to if you can't make fun of the National Enquirer, what's next, no making fun of tabloid journalisim like "I had an aliens baby, and need them to pay child support".

jkr's bold comment

I bought my girlfiend a Vostro 1500 (on the cheap prolly off the back of a truck) with a 8400 in it. Gets really hot, but hasn't died yet. Fan hardly ever runs though. Warrentee's up in like 15 days though, so I'm prolly screwed if it dies. Gonna have to ebay another defective video card.

Joseph_Shaw_520

Relax guys . . these boards are not going to burn and blow-up! There are minor manufacturing defects - nothing to do with performance that any human would notice.

JJ910

@Joseph_Shaw_520:
oh yeah- all of these laptop graphics cards are soldered to the mobo and are not replaceable.

iSmithx

I have a 8400 gs in my lappy... i'm such an Nvidiot to have gotten this graphics card, but then again, i only lad nvidia graphics cards to choose from.

iSmithx

Oh good, I was needing to sell my 8800GTX anyway, think I'll raise the price by a hundred, sell it as "not one of the defective cards"

bitgod

This is a bunch of BS! I have tons of these cards deployed and so far not a single problem with any of them.

JEmlay

Anyone know if this includes the Quadro line. I just spent too much on a Quadro 3700. Also looking into purchasing another one. Should I hold off?

taciturnforsale

I changed the crappy cooler on my 8800 GT with a much superior one and now it is out of warranty! DAMMIT! If it dies on me, NVIDIA dies for me.

KroKan

Humm.. this is from the Inquirer. People you are 95% chances that this is wrong.

The problem with the mobile laptops version of the Geforce 8000's series is that it was overheating.
I never heard of such thing from the desktop video cards. I mean all of you that has one, did you notice that it overheated and it shut-down on you?! No.

Beside, don't we all have like at least a 10 year warranty on graphic card, so what is to worry about.

GoodBytes

It's total bullshit. I've been running an 8800 gtx for like a year and a half and its still running strong.

Priest

I did the BIOS update on my daughter's Dell m1330, and it's running noticeably cooler.

CSX321

I'm watching this issue because my Dell XPS M1530, only four months old, has the 8600M GT nVidia GPU.

Perhaps the issue is this: Somehow, nVidia got or used crappy materials in the construction of the affected GPUs, so it is not sure whether these GPUs will live up to the performance and life-expectancy standards that nVidia has for its GPUs. Maybe the quality of the materials in the GPUs is such that some of them might fail quickly no matter how they're pushed, some might fail more quickly than expected if they're pushed too hard, some might not live to their warranty date, and some might not live X years past their warranty date -- but the issue for nVidia is that there's no pattern to the failure of the GPUs (so, maybe some overclockers are not having any issues, while some Notepad users are having quick crashes).

While it might be best for nVidia to work with the OEMs to offer replacement GPUs for all of the affected systems, maybe the uncertainty of the failures is such that nVidia thinks it can just handle the failures on a case-by-case basis as they happen. Almost certainly, anyone who has a failure during his/her warranty will be covered, and perhaps even for some period after the warranty expires. Maybe the rest of the affected users will never have an problem because either the failure occurs so far past the warranty expiration that the customer can't really complain that he/she didn't get his/her money's worth, or because the power-users will be upgrading their systems so regularly that they'll never make it to a nVidia GPU failure.

Certainly, nVidia will have hell to pay if *I* have a problem with my system during its warranty or shortly thereafter (although, with a four-year warranty, I may very well end up replacing my XPS before I ever have any GPU-related problem, knock on wood). But maybe this is just a wait-and-see situation for all affected users (who would be well-served to back up all their sh*t at the first sign of a graphics-related glitch).

Just my $0.02.

BugDude10

@mikejonas: Damn. Well it's been fine for the last month, hope it continues that way. *knock on wood*

And if worst comes to worst, I do have a 3 year Apple Care plan, so I could just get a replacement.

metalgear08

How does something like this happen? I guess I always assumed that companies that sell any product in large volume have extensive quality control that includes the years of simulated usage. Is it possible that they don't have this type of aging test? Does anyone know if other large companies lack this type of QC? I'm just curious. . .

chonnes

If the Inquirer wasn't full of shit, I'd be kind of worried. Does it sound like The listed chips DO have higher than usual defect rate? Yes. Does "higher than usual" mean 100%? Only if you work at a sensationalist tech blog that can't get any scoops themselves.

e-friend

This is BS. Where I work we use these card by the bushel, from all vendors and are NOT seeing this.

It's The Inquirer. WTF do you expect? A few years ago they reported MSFT canceled Media Center. They're 'tards.

banned4life

Is nvidia a publicly traded company? If so, this may be someones chance to make big $$$. Spread a rumor, buy stock when the price drops, wait for fear to pass and price go back to normal, sell and make $$$.

bolomkxxviii

Thankfully I have Evga card (and a GTX 280) so I don't have anything to worry about.

gamecrazychris

CLARIFICATION:

The 320MB and 640MB 8800GTS boards use the G80 chipset, which is not included in the supposedly affected chipsets. Only the new 8800GTS cards (512MB and 1024MB) are affected. This wasn't clear in the article, so I thought I'd go ahead and post this.

To see what chipset your card uses, go to [en.wikipedia.org] and look up your card in the chart. Remember, it's the G84, G86, G92, and G94 chipsets that are supposedly defective.

kylenalepa

You mean to tell me that the 8800 gt I bought 5 months ago will probably die out around the same time I have to upgrade anyhow? Noooooo.

Saboth

@dicknervous: Thanks, i didnt see it initially, but after reading @Shavo, i really wish mine were on the list, since i could send one back to XFX and one to EVGA and get two 260's, assuming both are willing to offer the same exchange, and assuming this story from the tabloid of the tech world is true.

diabolusunknownTheSecond

@RamV10: They get their share of "right calls" only because they'll publish every damn rumor under the sun. (And predicting a Windows SP is like predicting rain in Seattle.)

The Inquirer proved its lack of trustworthiness when they pounded the "Nvidia Cheats On Rydermark Image Quality" story into the ground.

Le Légende de Vincent Tremblay

My G92, overclocked, 8800GT AlphaDog never give up on me...

Still, as a preventive measure, I would not risk making any comments about this matter in front of it.

I don't know, say that once aware of the problem, it begins to fail....

mSiqueira

The blog [direct2dell.com] has a post regarding this. Dell is offering BIOS updates on select models, which updates the FAN profile

[direct2dell.com]

The direct2dell post references this post, directly from the NVIDA website [www.nvidia.com] in which NVIDA specifically states:

"Although the failure appears related to the combination of the interaction between the chip material set and system design, we have a responsibility to our customers and will take our part in resolving this problem."

-Eric

ericsprojects

I recently worked at one of the companies The Inq likes to write about. And I can assure you that their rumors were frequent topics of lunchtime conversations. Knowing what they wrote that was right, and what was totally made up was enlightening.

Basically, when they had a product 'leak' a month or so in advance of launch, they were usually right, or pretty close. Everything else was just throwing sh-t against a wall to see what stuck.

Franklin Comes Alive!

Matt why would you bring the value of Gizmodo down like this...?

LOL - Charlie D is the author of those crap stories. You can't take anything he says about nVidia as serious. His head is so far up AMD's butt it isn't even funny.

If that weren't bad enough go check out Charlie D's story about the Spam King who killed himself and family. Charlie D is a twisted person who does not have a firm grip on reality.

It is really a shame that Gizmodo would even publish this.

Geesh...

glennforum

Seriously you can't expect Charlie D over at the Inquirer to report anything accurately in regard to nVidia. His head is so far up AMD's butt it isn't funny.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out his house or car were paid for by Charlie D.

And if that isn't bad enough go look at the post he made about the King of Spam killing himself and his family. Charlie D is just a twisted and sick-minded individual and nothing he says should be taken seriously.

IMO he hurts The Inquirer.

I have several nVidia cards all over clocked and all working like a champ and some have been running 24X7 for years. The only problems I have ever had with nVidia products is from eVGA.

glennforum

My 8800GTS has been working great for about a year so far, though I have had some really odd artifact/texture screw ups with Team Fortress 2 on occasion, though Im not able to really troubleshoot this to see if it really is the card, or something else. Just once in a while it will freeze up for a minute and then come back with the screen and textures garbled.

Makes for a real acid trip of a game though..

Hope that is bs though, would be bad for nVidia, more so for all of us who have their cards.

Breach

I have 4 PC's with 8800's and none have had problems over a 3-12 month period.

scarbrtj

@Breach: A G80- or G92-based 8800GTS? I'm curious, 'cause everyone reporting Nvidia problems in the thread is with cards OTHER than the ones with the reportedly high fail rates.

matt buchanan

Inq = BS. Someone got a little press over the bios fan settings and now like some 4chan baaawwwwfg they want more.
When you get to the Xbox360 first gen epedimic levels then call, until then go merge w/ The Enquierer

Sixxtwo

My 8600 card is still ticking after 2+ years. Failure rate not hitting my house (yet).

Spotz

i had a nvidia 7900GT go funky on me... it was a buy.com PNY special.

i learned my lesson.

i got my new 8800GT from BFG on sale at best buy.... i figure i paid probably 50$ more than i could at newegg. but with the 10 year warranty and since i can just take it to BB (they will honor MFG warranties, or at least ship them off if its repairable... since no one would repair a GFX card, it should become just an exchange. yeah i have to deal with customer service, and paid a bit more.... but after PNY completely screwed me over. i'll be content with this.

endless

A quick troll of the buyer comments at NewEgg seems to debunk the Inquirer charges. Big surprise.

RowenaOrpheus

I have 2 8600's on my PC and... yeah, I've been having some issues. recall plz

ScreaminAsians

From nvidia's quarterly earnings report:

"For one thing, says Pacific Crest Securities analyst Mike McConnell, the damage stemming from Nvidia's defective graphics chips appears to be under control. Nvidia took a $196 million charge in the second quarter to cover warranty costs -- which was within the range it predicted last month -- and Nvidia said it didn't expect the charges to re-occur."

[www.thestreet.com]

CrownSeven

Mine kicked the bucket in my MacBook Pro after having heat issues. Applecare replaced it. I was told at the genuis bar I would have been SOL without apple care.

killthepoodle

My 8800GT (G92) died over a month ago :(

A couple of days before it died random stuff started happening, lockups, losing displays etc... I've put a 7900 in for the moment which is working well.

And I've been going through hell trying to get a replacement since... For reference it was a Zotec 512Mb 8800GT factory overclocked to 660Mhz

quadfour

My 8800GT died over a month ago. Before it died it started doing very random things and locking up the PC. So far it has been hell trying to get a replacement from the manufacturer :(

I've got a 7900 drop in replacement at the moment which is working well.

For reference, I had a Zotec 8800GT 512M factory overclocked to 660Mhz

quadfour

Well, my 8800GTX always has problems with flickering textures while my AMD cards don't exhibit this behavior. Is this stopping me from running my games? No. Do I think there could be a defect somewhere, hell yes!!!

nuggetz

So, that is why my 8800gt was so cheap. I believe a lot of the issue with the cards is related to the high temperature on the cards reach during game play. Excessive heat + electronics = bad. However; if one did their due diligence by reading widely available reviews you would likely know this and simply add a few more fans to your case. My case even has a temperature sensor for the video card and cpu on it and I think I paid a massive $60 for the whole case with sensors.

robpruitt

Getting bored with Nvidia FUD from the (St)Inquirer. 1st Nvidia were leaving the chipset market (They arent). Now every blood y card Nvidia ever made is going to murder your firstborn (They dont)

Can someone catch up with this guy and give him a slap plz.

Degriz

The G84 and G86 hardware issue is REAL (backed up by major OEM partners). G92/94 (which does not include the 8800GTX and first gen 8800GTS) might possibly be affected by the sub-standard substrate issue that is causing these failures. The Inq might be a somewhat shady site but I applaud them for giving us (the end users) a heads up on this situation. We all know that Nvidia is trying their best to keep this all hush hush.

stryderxx

Oh, this could be why Nvidia is buying back 1/3 (at current market price) of their stock. They raised there buyback plan from $1 billion to $2.7 billion. If this is that serious of a problem, than they're going to buy back a ton more shares (from share price being cheaper) or be able to keep the price from tanking anymore.

ugar

@: So, basically you're saying you call bullshit until something reaches more than a 30% failure rate?

Had you bothered to read the article, the issue occurs mostly in laptops due to heat dissipation issues.

Xavoc