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Binaural Beats Audio Played Through Noise Cancelling Headphones Supposedly Gives You a Drug-Like High
Posted by Jason Chen at 4:20 AM on August 21, 2008
The site I-Doser makes the seemingly remarkable claim that playing binaural beats—pulses of two different frequencies that are slightly different into both ears at the same time—can give you a high that's on par with taking drugs. The Jerusalem Post claims that the concept has been around since the 1830s, but has only been perfected with the introduction of noise cancelling headphones and better audio reproduction.
There are actually open source version of this I-Doser app (which they might have even taken a few assets from), so you can try it out before you sink some cash into this. Their shady looking site also has a disclaimer that says "I-Doser makes no medical, psychological, physical or otherwise, claims to the effectiveness of the I-Doser application, Simulation CDs, and MP3s," which leads us to believe that it's quite bogus and most likely does nothing. Don't you think that if you could get high from a SOUND, kids would have been all over this years ago? These kids sniff cat pee! [I-Doser via JPostvia T3]

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Internev
Posted August 21, 2008 10:07 AM
Oh yeah these audio files have a powerful effect, if you're epileptic...
http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2008/08/digital_drugs_emerge.html
boxheadman
Posted August 21, 2008 12:25 PM
In case anyone was wondering, the open source software mentioned is at http://uazu.net/sbagen/
whatnot22
Posted 4:55 AM 21/8/08
Binaural has been around longer than stereo. If it could get you high, I would have been doing it a looooong time ago.
It's actually pretty cool if you haven't tried it. Wait till you record a concert with in ear MICROPHONES. That's some trippy shit. When you turn your head when recording then listen to it again, you get the same affect like you were there and actually turned your head. You get the same spatial separation. The only way to experience it over again, if you ask me. I made my microphones for like $10. For those of you who want to know what binaural actually is, check out these clips and make sure you wear headphones.
[www.disp.duke.edu]
whatnot22
Alex Frickin Davie
Posted 4:52 AM 21/8/08
@Kevin: Lol I would never pay for this software. Get it elsewhere. BT. Projectw. Something.
@Everyone Else: Ah ignorance at its finest XD
Read up on these things. Maybe you'll learn somethin ;D
Alex Frickin Davie
cracksbacks
Posted 4:51 AM 21/8/08
this stuff works...at least i felt mellowed out after a few of them. If nothing else, its a good meditation with white noise.
Hand of God...i wanna try that one. I downloaded all the doses a long time ago.
cracksbacks
Alex Frickin Davie
Posted 4:50 AM 21/8/08
1- This isn't BS. 2- This isn't a drug replacement.
3- You people shouldn't underestimate what the brain can do with its input.
What this program does is generate osculating sound waves that alternate at contrasting rhythms and intervals. The result is a mild euphoria, while some of the sounds [given prolonged exposure] may give a mild delirium similar to that of a drug "high".
I burn. I do other stuff. I've tried plenty of things, but imagine this as a last resort for any alteration of consciousness when your dry. Ya dig?
ALSO- for those of you who DO try this program, you will NOT get any effect without listening to it for the full duration. Put on the best headphones you've got, and just chill for 30-60 minutes if you want to try it.
Alex Frickin Davie
Hiphopopotamus
Posted 4:47 AM 21/8/08
We all know this won't work in any way shape or form...
But after a dozen kids put up YouTube videos of them doing stupid shit while "iDosed" and Fox News will do an expose on the newest drug epidemic...
You heard it hear first!
(See: Salvia, Robotussin, Choke Parties, Whippets, Water)
Hiphopopotamus
ryno365
Posted 4:44 AM 21/8/08
i actually tried this. and its complete bs so you guys shouldnt waste ur time with it
ryno365
Hectorvex
Posted 4:43 AM 21/8/08
I burn pretty much every night. It's a social thing for us as well, plus how can I hear the cheesy one liners in Soul Caliber IV if I've got mystical Binaural beats going into my head? I don't buy it. Until a well known stoner dude endorses it instead of the smiling asian kid above, then I'll consider it's validity. Maybe.
Hectorvex
GeekyNerdGuy
Posted 4:41 AM 21/8/08
Adobe Audition (CoolEdit Pro) had binaural effects capabilities.
GeekyNerdGuy
nystreetfilms
Posted 4:41 AM 21/8/08
Is that guy asian... or just high?
nystreetfilms
lpranal
Posted 4:40 AM 21/8/08
I'm pretty certain that Aphex Twin puts this into some of his recordings, at very least SAW II is that way.
lpranal
El Frijole
Posted 4:38 AM 21/8/08
I'll pay for drugs, but not for sound.
-EF
El Frijole
mr30gZune
Posted 4:38 AM 21/8/08
I think i also has to do with the fact that you know beforehand what your listening to that affects you.
I wanna see some tests where someone gets to listen to a 3 song play list, 2 regular songs and 1 of the "trippin' balls" variety.
mr30gZune
lostarchitect
Posted 4:37 AM 21/8/08
headache != stoned
lostarchitect
snoop-blog
Posted 4:35 AM 21/8/08
Hmmm, I already have something to make me feel high- they are called "drugs", so should I even bother with this or is it more intense then weed?
snoop-blog
Denver_80203
Posted 4:35 AM 21/8/08
I'll be sure to remember this for my next court appearance.
The headphones made me do it!!!
Denver_80203
Jimbuck
Posted 4:33 AM 21/8/08
I believe in the idea that music has the potential to alter one's state of mind. Nazi's experimented with it, along with the russians as a medium for mind control...so what's to say that music can induce mind-altering qualities.....
Brian Eno FTW!
Jimbuck
mildretard
Posted 4:33 AM 21/8/08
If this were legit I'm sure Donovan would have come up with a song about it by now.
Or maybe he tried but couldn't find anything to rhyme with 'binaural'.
mildretard
Daisuash
Posted 4:33 AM 21/8/08
I have this program (a friend gave me a copy) , i have only used it one time and it started to make me feel dizzy after 2 minutes (i was listening to a thing called something with "bomb") then i stopped and haven“t listened to it again. I have to find the disc where i burned it...
Daisuash
seamonkey420
Posted 4:32 AM 21/8/08
i'll have to try smoking some beats later tonight. :P i mean listening..
seamonkey420
Kevin
Posted 4:31 AM 21/8/08
Actually sound CAN affect mood, make you feel ill, pain, and hell, I don't see why it couldn't get you high. Sounds scammy though.
Kevin
Saboth
Posted 4:31 AM 21/8/08
@Curves:
Lol
Saboth
mferrari
Posted 4:27 AM 21/8/08
This is nothing new, and it is way overpriced, you can download the the open source SbaGen which does the same thing and then find a torrent of the iDoser files on the pirate bay that is converted for SbaGen. It also comes out to under 1 meg for everything.
I have tried a few of them, the french roast made me super hyper and launched me into an insane CoD4 pwn spree, I haven't tried many others because they are too long (30-90 min.) but I have heard from friends that they work. Also, I use a 9 dollar pair of buds from Target, so it is possible that you may get better results with expensive headphones.
mferrari
Monty
Posted 4:27 AM 21/8/08
I can't wait to see how the DEA is going to regulate this.
Monty
DustyButt
Posted 4:25 AM 21/8/08
Yeah, but you have to be careful of the cheap stuff. Sometimes they cut it with brown noise.
DustyButt
Curves
Posted 4:25 AM 21/8/08
Dude, dont bogart those headphones.
Curves
mr30gZune
Posted 4:23 AM 21/8/08
Can they remove harmful toxins at the same time, while you tweak out.
If so then I'm sold!
mr30gZune
se7a7n7
Posted 5:16 AM 21/8/08
These are just gateway beats. First you start by listening to 2 beats, then you'll need to listen to 3 beats, then 4...
The next thing you know, you'll be putting your baby in the oven.
se7a7n7
MyquiH
Posted 5:16 AM 21/8/08
Can't I just sit and listen to some relaxing music for 60 minutes and feel relaxed?
MyquiH
Zyren
Posted 5:10 AM 21/8/08
I have tried this plenty of times and it didnt work at all. i have some pretty good closed ear sennheiser headphones and have tried quite a few of the listens, including hand of god.
Whether this works or not (i have my extreme doubts), the one this that is clear is that if you're not good at concentrating and focusing your mind on just the sound and meditating to it, you wont be able to get anything out of this.
Zyren
impliedsurprise
Posted 5:08 AM 21/8/08
If you want a super trippy version of binaural audio, you should listen to the Virtual Haircut....
+ Watch video
the first time i listened to it, I was looking around to find the person....
impliedsurprise
Hectorvex
Posted 5:07 AM 21/8/08
@NagChampa: And then - would there be different quality grades of sound? You know, like you'd drive to a record store in the hood, get some low res mp3, then go buy some AAC sound... what would the chronic be? How about some blown glass headphones...
Hectorvex
Hiphopopotamus
Posted 5:07 AM 21/8/08
@Gann: They all might work - but I don't think I would declare any of them a dangerous plague upon our children as evidenced by YouTube footage... Watch more local news programming, you'll see.
+ Watch video
Hiphopopotamus
turi319
Posted 5:02 AM 21/8/08
can I mix them?
turi319
NagChampa
Posted 5:01 AM 21/8/08
@Hectorvex: I'm with you man. I have friends in high places (pun intended) and if those cats start to endorse this then I'm in. I will keep my eye on this though, because it could be cool.
NagChampa
stryder100
Posted 5:00 AM 21/8/08
Do they have some sound that emulates penicillin?
stryder100
RoboChop
Posted 4:59 AM 21/8/08
I-Hoser
@Curves: Listen, Listen, Pass or something like that.
RoboChop
Gann
Posted 4:59 AM 21/8/08
@Hiphopopotamus: Salvia, Robotussin and Whippets all work. Not sure what a choke party is.
@Alex Frickin Davie: The oscillating sound waves create a dissonance that first mimics your brain's natural cycle, then leads it into another state, like a dream.
Wikipedia has a pretty good description of course.
Gann
monomyth
Posted 4:58 AM 21/8/08
This all comes from Robert Monroe experiments. He himself never needed any binaural sounds aka hemi-sync to achieve out-of-body experiences. Neither do you. I guess this was an attempt to make some money out of thin air.
The idea that by listening to some weird frequencies your brain will begin to operate on these frequencies is at least silly if not worse.
monomyth
Noobs-R-Us
Posted 5:42 AM 21/8/08
@mr30gZune: Sure, it'll happen while you're spasm'ing on the floor during your seizure in the form of you crapping and pissing in your pants. LOL.:)
Noobs-R-Us
neuralien
Posted 5:41 AM 21/8/08
@whatnot22: Uhm, for binaural beats to work, you NEED stereo. Each ear much be able to hear a specific frequency i.e.: left ear hears 55Hz while right ear hears 60Hz. You also need to eliminate (or reduce as much as possible) cross-talk between ears. That's why it's recommended to use headphones.
Binaural beats work. It's just that it works differently from person to person. I've used binaural beats to keep me awake or put me to sleep when I travel, keep me focused on the work at hand or just help me relax when I've had a rough day.
neuralien
jeblis
Posted 5:40 AM 21/8/08
Hmm well it would basically be making you dizzy. Effectively creating rapidly changing Alternobaric Vertigo. I've had this from diving and you get really disoriented. I've also had a similar, much milder, sensation from my in-ear headphones.
jeblis
jfherring
Posted 5:37 AM 21/8/08
I use binaural audio almost daily. Works great for me. Check it out: [www.pzizz.com]
jfherring
johnsofats
Posted 5:32 AM 21/8/08
There is this song on Fennesz's Endless Summer album - I think it's track 3 - that has these sounds toward the end of the song that you can feel in your throat and it kind of makes you want to throw up. It's actually really cool. Great album too.
johnsofats
bodah
Posted 6:11 AM 21/8/08
I thought Apple was giving us enough placebos already, do I need more?
bodah
ideaman2020
Posted 6:09 AM 21/8/08
@Hiphopopotamus: Salvia?
Whew! For a second there I thought you were implying kids were getting high on Saliva...
ideaman2020
Rev. Eaton Yorke Hunt
Posted 6:05 AM 21/8/08
I'm already effed up on placebos
Rev. Eaton Yorke Hunt
HeyBeav
Posted 6:03 AM 21/8/08
This is your brain.
This is your brain on binaural beats.
This is the scammer who sold it to you laughing on the way to the bank.
HeyBeav
ZomBuster
Posted 6:02 AM 21/8/08
It's a placebo effect.
ZomBuster
d1gw33d
Posted 5:54 AM 21/8/08
I actually got a bunch of these last year off of OiNK. It was like a 19GB torrent. The one I actually tried in full with recommended settings (close eyes, dark room, no outside interuptions etc.) was Hand of God which was sold in the site for like $100. It was supposed to be the best.
I did it 2 different times (once you do one - others wont really have an effect untill you wait a certain amount of time.) At the time I had some basic Senhessier PC150 headphones.
With out a doubt it "altered" me in some way. I didn't feel "normal" after going through it. Towards the end of the audio file I noticed a difference in my breathing and my chest felt lighter. After I removed my headphones it (I shit you not) sounded like my brain was boiling. My hearing was altered for a good 2-3 minutes. When I was talking to my wife my voice sounded like it was crackling. I assumed this was from listing to very similar sounds/frequencies for ~30mins straight. Either way it was kind of cool. The most noticeable thing though was during my listen 2 different times "Hand of God" changed the sound instantly the kind of made me jump and the feeling afterwords was worth mentioning. My heart raced (like when something scares you) but it was more thant that. Hard to explain.
Either way - it does SOMETHING. It's not like dropping a pill or lighting something up at all though. I can safely say that if you listen to them as suggested you will feel... something different.
Since then I have gotten some Senheisser 590's with a headphone amp. It's probably worth checking out again.
d1gw33d
strider_mt2k
Posted 5:48 AM 21/8/08
I learned it from listening to YOU, OKAY?
strider_mt2k
chuchi78
Posted 5:46 AM 21/8/08
Bullsh*t! There go 35 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
Now where's my bong?
chuchi78
yertle
Posted 6:37 AM 21/8/08
I tried this in CoolEdit a while ago... maybe 10 years ago? It was interesting, but nothing mind-blowing.
yertle
Cultivar
Posted 6:32 AM 21/8/08
If this worked we'd all know about it. Doctors would recommend it for stress, your friends in high school would have tried it, Fox would have run a report on it, there'd be studies run.
Seems to me the people here talking in support of this quackery waste most of their time on altering their state of mind already anyway, so I wouldn't trust them to know what has an effect or not, and frankly I'm not interested in what people like that recommend to begin with.
Cultivar
origamimavin
Posted 6:30 AM 21/8/08
i have this, and have used it. it's placebo, for the most part. there have been times where after listening to it, i do in fact feel more mellowed out or excited. they they don't tell you is that some of the files are up to and over an hour long, and you're supposed to sit, with headphones, with your eyes closed to get "the effect". after a while of sitting, listening to a set of high frequency buzzing, you do feel a little off, but it's nothing like being on that drug.
origamimavin
mr30gZune
Posted 6:28 AM 21/8/08
@impliedsurprise:
WHOA!!
I'm totally tripping balls right now you dont even know!!111
*sniff* *sniff* you got any more *sniff*
mr30gZune
IMWylde
Posted 7:03 AM 21/8/08
If it worked as advertised it would cost 50k. Seriously some company would create the entire experience in a portable form and it would be selling high.
IMWylde
mbac
Posted 6:55 AM 21/8/08
@jfherring: I've used it to get asleep, and it's fine for me. But does the Energizer pack give you the advertised energy/concentration boost during the day=?
mbac
lldsandsll
Posted 6:51 AM 21/8/08
And there off...to the refrigerator!
I love how this here stupid thingy brought together all the opinionated po-theads. All the REAL burnouts are so high they don't know where they are right now.
lldsandsll
Turing_Machine
Posted 6:44 AM 21/8/08
I've been using SBAGen for years. Some of them really do encourage a very intense meditation state, which might provide euphoria, etc.
I guess give it a try:
[uazu.net]
Turing_Machine
hebrewhammer770
Posted 7:09 AM 21/8/08
free on thepiratebay (search i doser in audio)
hebrewhammer770
jfherring
Posted 7:08 AM 21/8/08
@mbac: I don't know if it is the software that gives me the boost, or just the fact that it helps me get to sleep for a mid-afternoon power-nap. Either way, I feel better afterwards. Plus, with the energizer pack, you set it, for example, for a 25 minute energizer nap. After 25 minutes, it wakes you back up, not like the sleep pack which just lets you go. So I can actually wake up and get back to work.
jfherring
RG_Shrike
Posted 7:44 AM 21/8/08
You can make your own binaural sounds using audacity.
Binaural sounds help with hypnosis and self-hypnosis.
as far as inducing a drug like effect I tried the opium one and got bored.
RG_Shrike
Holyelephant
Posted 7:43 AM 21/8/08
(Relax don't do it,
when you want to go to it)
KILL THE PRIME MINISTER OF MALAYSIA!...
Holyelephant
sonny411
Posted 7:36 AM 21/8/08
i think its fake...
i know i-doser since 2years... and its only fake
sonny411
Jomi294
Posted 8:42 AM 21/8/08
A friend of mine told me about this like maybe 10 months or a year ago. He said they worked pretty well, and convinced me to download the program. But I just couldn't stand it, some of the .drug files he sent me required around 30+ minutes of listening without doing anything else, so I just uninstalled. But I've heard from various friends it does work.
Jomi294
oCfuu
Posted 8:31 AM 21/8/08
Try it for free:
[www.i-dose.us]
Don't know why anyone would pay money for it?!
Have tried it before, but didn't really notice anything. I'll go for it again right now and get a energy boost!
oCfuu
MarkB
Posted 8:21 AM 21/8/08
I know a busy signal tone and my alarm clock make me angry. Is that a binaural high?
MarkB
Ethan Allison
Posted 9:05 AM 21/8/08
My friend told me about this not too long ago and it apparently worked. Of course, knowing my friend she was probably high already.
Ethan Allison
beefsuperior
Posted 9:33 AM 21/8/08
Ive always thought there was a lot of correlation between the effects of certain drugs and meditation, and a lot of similarities between the reasons for people doing either, eventhough the stigmas attached to either are so opposite each other. Sure, this has been around for a long time, and it sounds scammy to try and make money off it, but to hear that kids are getting into it sounds more to me like kids are getting into meditation than "Oh, they'll just do anything they can get their grubby little hands on to get fucked up."
@Holyelephant: Awesome!
beefsuperior
godwhacker
Posted 11:44 AM 21/8/08
@Holyelephant:
frankie goes to hollywood?
damn.
during my altered decades (late 60's to late 80's)
i subscribed to the DuPont theory.....
better living through chemistry!!!!
godwhacker
ijuleguy
Posted 1:32 PM 21/8/08
@Holyelephant:
ROFL!
Zoo Lander FTW.
ijuleguy
krom
Posted 6:28 PM 21/8/08
brain wave generator and huge library. choose from lucid dreams to LSD trips: [www.bwgen.com]
krom
kevman90
Posted 6:18 PM 21/8/08
Im so torrenting this
kevman90
Th3Chos3n0n3
Posted 7:30 PM 21/8/08
Yeeeeehaaaa, I just listened to the whole "Hand of God", incredible, buy or torrent it!!!
Th3Chos3n0n3
UrIt
Posted 10:38 PM 21/8/08
the picture on the left looks like Sylar...
creeeepyyyy
UrIt
whatnot22
Posted 12:42 AM 22/8/08
Next thing you know they'll be selling us super potent vitamins and saying "man I got F*cked up on that potassium. Best trip ever! Whatever you call it, someone's going to say it works. Altering your state of mind is a matter of choice, not external influences.
You can make yourself feel all sorts of pleasure and pain by just thinking about it. To slow your heart rate, just breathe slower. Want to get excited, watch a slasher movie and watch your heartrate go through the roof. I'd imagine sitting still for an hour listening to music and closing your eyes would be good for anyone. Most people don't take enough time to relax anymore, so this can be a good thing. Binaural "drugs" are all about the hype.
whatnot22
whatnot22
Posted 12:35 AM 22/8/08
neuralien
Binaural and stereo are two different things. Check out [en.wikipedia.org]
whatnot22
Feigr
Posted 10:29 AM 22/8/08
Absinthe? So it will give you the feeling of being drunk? Absinthe does not have any other effect on you, that absinthe has some sort of psychedelic or mind altering properties is a myth.
Feigr
mrbob1000
Posted 5:08 AM 23/8/08
eh... i used these before. lots of kids at my high school use them.
mrbob1000
RG_Shrike
Posted 10:40 PM 26/8/08
@Feigr: Actually absinthe contains Thujone - which in very large quantities is a hallucinogen.
You'd have to drink about 20 bottle of absinthe to get any effect. Of course you'd probably be dead by the 2nd or 3rd bottle since most of the absinthe i've had was like 70% alcohol.
RG_Shrike
logantrox
Posted 11:16 AM 22/8/08
Sounds Like A great Idea for a SP episode. what do you think? Kenny would Love it.
also i believe this is just placebo. if not they could work wonders in the medical field via painkillers and what not.
logantrox
logantrox
Posted 10:57 PM 21/8/08
Sounds to me like this would be a great topic for an episode of southpark.
also i believe that this stuff is all just placebo. but hey, that's just me..
logantrox
gexor
Posted 8:51 AM 21/8/08
Why does this remind me of the Q Ray bracelet. Just remember everyone the ionized metal the bracelet is made out of will balance your Chi and make you a more healthy person.
gexor
QamraBuffalo
Posted 4:54 AM 21/8/08
BTW, this will work with even the cheapest of headphones. It is the difference in the two tones that matter as that is what your brain registers. These notes are not at the extreme ranges of headphones ability as it would make them less effective. The "you need x headphones" is a marketing gimick.
QamraBuffalo
QamraBuffalo
Posted 4:44 AM 21/8/08
Binaural beats have shown effectiveness over placebo in peer reviewed studies. These studies mostly targeted anxiety. You can find them in pubmed.
QamraBuffalo
hds272
Posted 4:24 AM 21/8/08
I have tried the trial of this with no results, its phoney!
hds272