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Windows 3.11 to Sing its Last (MIDI) Song On November 8
Posted by Gizmodo US Edition at 12:40 PM on July 11, 2008

In a short and slightly poignant posting on his MSDN blog, a Microsoft systems engineer has announced that Windows 3.11 will be officially discontinued four months after XP's unceremonious removal from the consumer market. The secret to 3.11's 15-year lifespan was the embedded space, where it has dutifully provided a platform for countless low-horsepower cash registers and train schedule displays.
To be completely fair, 3.11 has only been "available" in the sense that embedded systems OEMs could buy it through limited channels, just as they will be able to purchase XP Embedded (which is a full-featured Pro version of the OS) into the foreseeable future. At least you can fudge a little and tell your kids that XP has "gone to a better place," but don't even try to pull that crap with 3.11. It's dead, and those spoiled brats have to learn what that means someday.

Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
Adam
Posted July 11, 2008 5:34 PM
Windows 3.11 .. whats that! nah just kidding - RIP 3.11, totally forgot about you since windows 98, M.E. XP and all that!
Alex
Posted July 11, 2008 5:47 PM
Wow. I got given a Toshiba Libretto 100CT with Windows 3.1 back in 2000 by my uncle. Oh my gosh, that thing got me through 3 years of high school by letting me type in class. Crappy mouse though (PSP-esque nobble on the side of the screen).
I might even boot it up today (and let my Mac laugh at it!)
radikaled
Posted 2:23 PM 11/7/08
@rahilmehta: If I remember correctly, I think Recorder was basically a macro "recording" tool. I guess somewhat akin to Automater on OS X.
radikaled
Maxxofor
Posted 2:23 PM 11/7/08
oh.. i think i just died a little inside. ~sniff~
Maxxofor
JacquesAss
Posted 2:23 PM 11/7/08
Windows 3.1? I can't muster a tear for your passing...but oh, look at the company you kept!
Netscape! Eudora! Telnet (and, thus, Pine)! Acrobat (before the incredible bloating)!
Those were heady days on the internet, when Yahoo! had a subheading for porn and was still run out of a Stanford dorm.
JacquesAss
Philnolan3d
Posted 2:22 PM 11/7/08
I never actually had a computer with 3.11 on it. I went straight from ODS to 95. I do remember when I mom got an outdated computer from a coworker with 3.11 on it. As she was learning to use it people kept telling her stuff like "close the window by clicking the X" and she'd say "what X??"
Philnolan3d
LordieLordie
Posted 2:21 PM 11/7/08
is it me? or every new MS OS gets worse and worse.. I still like NT/Win2000 the best..
LordieLordie
drywaller79
Posted 2:15 PM 11/7/08
I have an old laptop with 3.11 still on it. I didn't know MS still supported it all these years :\.
drywaller79
iCanhasLs2plz
Posted 2:13 PM 11/7/08
wow...I remember just running random apps (even disk utilities) like file manager, etc just because of how cool it was. This OS must fit on a floppy
iCanhasLs2plz
rahilmehta
Posted 2:07 PM 11/7/08
Recorder? Is that some sort of video screen capture? If so, I would really like to know why Microsoft does not include it anymore.
rahilmehta
bobide
Posted 2:03 PM 11/7/08
Oh 3.1, I remember when we first meet all those years ago. Back when computers were new and fascinating things.
bobide
bobdobbs
Posted 2:52 PM 11/7/08
Good riddance. OS/2 was so much better, never mind AmigaOS.
bobdobbs
AJ_Syrinx
Posted 2:47 PM 11/7/08
**snif-snif**
AJ_Syrinx
enchantedduck
Posted 2:36 PM 11/7/08
I remember 3.1.... wow thats scary. My uncle had it. He even had flight simulator, back when it was all flat with square white buildings. I kept hitting the keys trying to control the pain, but ultimately it just crashed and burned no matter what. And when it did, the screen would "crack" with a bunch of white jagged lines.
Thats really cool that it has still been in use all this time though.
enchantedduck
Teira
Posted 3:15 PM 11/7/08
@FrankenPC: According to wickerpedia "IBM standard support for OS/2 was discontinued on December 31, 2006", and the last stable release was Dec. '01
Teira
kentsmithnz
Posted 3:06 PM 11/7/08
@rahilmehta:
RE: Recorder
Recorder was the macro recorder I believe. You start recording, do some stuff (e.g. open 5 apps, copy a file from a one directory to another, delete a bunch of stuff), stop recording, and save the file. Then when you want to do it again, you just click on the file (or shove it in your start folder - autoexec.bat).
I miss that. :)
-KENT
kentsmithnz
FrankenPC
Posted 3:05 PM 11/7/08
Say....is OS2 still operating ATM's?
FrankenPC
FrankenPC
Posted 3:04 PM 11/7/08
OMFG....what a memory. You could simply copy the windows directory to another PC and you were back up and running.
Ohhhh the glory days.
FrankenPC
jmurph05
Posted 2:59 PM 11/7/08
Even More reason to keep my Windows 95 OEM disk and my Internet Explorer 5 full install CD as well... probably will still be just as worthless, but maybe, juuuust maybe they could be worth something...
jmurph05
JackMatt
Posted 2:59 PM 11/7/08
*Cry* I will miss you old buddy..... but hey, make sure Bob never comes back!
JackMatt
Mike8606
Posted 3:33 PM 11/7/08
I don't know if this is factual, did anyone SEE what OS Packard Bells gaming PC is loaded with?
Mike8606
bailey_ca
Posted 4:12 PM 11/7/08
@Erzengel:
MPLAYER.EXE C:\WINDOWS\CANYON.MID
[virt.vgmix.com]
Woo!
bailey_ca
Erzengel
Posted 3:49 PM 11/7/08
Windows 3.11 to Sing its Last (MIDI) Song...
i dont know about you, but MOD files were waaaay better than midi. and we got mp3 in that time anyway. 3.11 will always have a special place in my heart.
Erzengel
Mrrix32
Posted 4:20 PM 11/7/08
Win3.1 actualy had some features better than any M$ OS since. An example of this is in Paint you are able to seclect one colour to erase rather than all of them.
Also it's tiny! Setup on 2 Floppies! I have had a PC and Laptop running 3.1/3.11 (The laptop was within the last 5 years!)
Mrrix32
xacked
Posted 5:16 PM 11/7/08
Jayzus I was a kid in my dad's office tinkering with that version of Windows back in the day.
xacked
axiom
Posted 6:06 PM 11/7/08
Ah Windows 3.11, good times
axiom
KVirtanen
Posted 6:28 PM 11/7/08
It's really hard to believe it has been in use all these years - came as a total surprise to me..!
KVirtanen
iomatic
Posted 7:18 PM 11/7/08
Ah, college. Makes me appreciate the Mac so much more. :D
iomatic
Blakamin
Posted 7:11 PM 11/7/08
I remember the days when 3.11 had a skiing game. I used it twice...
C:\windows
WIN
Then '95 came out and I had to partition my 540mb WD caviar so I could reformat it when I got sick of windows games. (about 8 minutes IIRC)
and there was my 2 double-speed (later quad) CD-roms with the latest shareware for my BBS....
ahhh, Memories,
Like the corners of my mind
Misty watercolor memories
oh, 3.11, I shall miss you
*sheds tear*
Blakamin
shinchan
Posted 9:11 PM 11/7/08
@Mrrix32:
2 floppies? I think mine came on 8, the last two only used for drivers for printers and stuff.
But even win95 fit on 20 floppies ;)
I remember how surprised I was when win95 came out and you didn't have to type "win" at command prompt anymore; I was kinda disappointed...
shinchan
abemonty
Posted 8:59 PM 11/7/08
You guys aren't real nerds if this is your first memory of a computer.
abemonty
Mandatory_Field
Posted 9:28 PM 11/7/08
@bobdobbs: "OS/2 was so much better" Yes, right up until you got the "crash of death" (2.0), and had no recourse but to reinstall completely from scratch from 50 bazillion floppy disks. Version 2.1 didn't fix that either, and the 3rd time in one year that it happened to me, I left OS/2 behind, and never looked back....
Mandatory_Field
pharago
Posted 9:27 PM 11/7/08
lots of memories, that was an amazing OS
@aussie: id like to know the kind of compression you used, cause it never fitted on 2 disks, not even msdos (3 at least)
pharago
aussie
Posted 9:14 PM 11/7/08
How can windows 3.11 fit on two floppy disks, be compatible with all PCs yet Vista needs a DVD to install and has compatibility issues?
We will miss you 3.11!
aussie
dman0586
Posted 9:57 PM 11/7/08
I remember my dad taking lessons on how to use Windows 3.1 and then like a year later we got a computer with Win 95 and he didn't know how to do anything on it. Haha but know he is much better with computers, although it took him quite awhile. Personally, i went from Dos to 95. Although I was only like 8 when 95 came out.
dman0586
citizen.lambda
Posted 9:39 PM 11/7/08
@abemonty: Abemonty, I must oppose that. Windows 95 came out when I was 5, and I never even touched 3.11. We aren't real old-time nerds if we haven't touched something prior to 3.11, but do not insinuate the complete absence of geekdom in younger generations!
citizen.lambda
wolfenstein-3d
Posted 10:46 PM 11/7/08
awwww :( RIP 3.11
I'll miss the days of my first online experience. The battle between AOL, Netscape, etc. I'll miss my 28.8 modem, and the screeching sound that came along with dial-up.
I'll miss you my first graphical interface, where you showed me that i can stop learning command prompt lines. I could then click an icon to open up Wolfenstein, instead of typing in:
c:\win\prgms\wolf_3d\wolf.exe
I digress...
wolfenstein-3d
dallasmay
Posted 10:43 PM 11/7/08
@ Abemonty and all
I can understand where you are coming from. I grew up with an Apple II and remember trying to dial up to BBS. We had a SUPER OLD MODEM that required you to dial the number yourself on a phone, then lay the headset down on the modem and a speaker literally beeped and squeaked through the phone. It was music.
That and I remember playing "Sticky Bear Basket Bounce" and "Burger Time" from Walden Media. Those were the days!!
dallasmay
dallasmay
Posted 10:38 PM 11/7/08
Lets all petition Microsoft to not kill off this too soon! With all of the trouble with Vista, I'm sure there are some people who would still like to use this time proven OS(ish).
(By the way, Windows 3.1 was never an OS, it was just a windowing system for MS-DOS. If your interested.)
dallasmay
Viva La Volvo
Posted 10:37 PM 11/7/08
@rahilmehta: it was a macro recorder.
Viva La Volvo
Erzengel
Posted 10:28 PM 11/7/08
@abemonty: it doesnt mean we are not real nerds, it just mean you are old :D
Erzengel
joel_roberts
Posted 11:05 PM 11/7/08
Windows 3.11 - Microsoft's high water mark.
joel_roberts
dallasmay
Posted 11:00 PM 11/7/08
"c:\win\prgms\wolf_3d\wolf.exe"
Uh, could you run Windows programs from the DOS prompt? I don't think you could.
dallasmay
Mooby
Posted 10:55 PM 11/7/08
Damn. I was a just-out-of-college store manager at a Babbage's (remember those?) when 3.1 came out. I remember having to open the shrink wrap off the boxes to get at the upgrade form that had to be filled out when the purchase was made. That sucked hard.
I also seem to remember that the 3.11 upgrade disk came out very soon after 3.1 because of some fairly big bugs in 3.1. (Wasn't there a major problem with the compression/drive space feature?) I think that the charge for the 3.11 upgrade was $1.99. No downnloads back then!
Mooby
Ajax
Posted 11:32 PM 11/7/08
@bobdobbs: Just let the poor thing die with some dignity, bob. I know you might be sore about losing the OS war to Windows 3.1 so many years ago, but it is all water under the bridge now. Plus, I don't see a new version of either of those gracing 90% of the market.
Ajax
feckineejit
Posted 11:23 PM 11/7/08
@feckineejit: I'm a dumbass.
feckineejit
riflehunter
Posted 11:22 PM 11/7/08
@Blakamin: The skiing game was "Ski Free." I still have it and it runs on XP just fine - although the monster is a heck of a lot faster on a 3 GHz machine...
riflehunter
feckineejit
Posted 11:22 PM 11/7/08
@rahilmehta: sound recorder.
feckineejit
Shub-Niggurath
Posted 12:20 AM 12/7/08
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! 3.1, YOU ARE MY EVERYTHING! *weeps*
No but seriously 3.1 played a big part in my childhood, and probably made me the hunky geek I am today.
Shub-Niggurath
N@tedog iiinnnnn spaaaaaaace!
Posted 12:16 AM 12/7/08
RIP
N@tedog iiinnnnn spaaaaaaace!
lburgguy
Posted 12:15 AM 12/7/08
One random memory I have with Windows 3.1 is how long it took to load Word, just to type a letter. 1 minute, 45 seconds on my then not-too-shabby 486/25.
Those weren't the days!
lburgguy
Usama
Posted 11:52 PM 11/7/08
My first visual OS (as DOS was my first ever). I loved that Gateway so much. I remember we had a computer but I didn't know anything, and neither did my parents. My dad got it just so we wouldn't be left behind I guess.
Anyway I'd fool around in Paint a lot and whenever I would exit it would always ask, "would you like to save the changes you made?" and well I was learning English still so I thought it was asking me if I wanted to save the charges (?) as in electrical charges, save my dad from paying for them? (I was an idiot, I agree) and so I would always hit yet. Looking back all those .bmp files I must've saved on the 170MB 486 must've heart us a lot. It was fine later though, as we upgraded from a paltry 4MB of RAM to 8MB at a cost of $120 or so.
Windows 3.11 was rock solid when I would play Skifree or Mario Teaches Typing or Doom (1 and 2). I miss that computer.
Usama
Kevin O
Posted 11:49 PM 11/7/08
Yes... I could probably list the files needed to split user and system files for lan boot right now. Novell lan of course.
More useless knowledge.
Kevin O
Glaiel-Gamer
Posted 12:54 AM 12/7/08
My memories all come from early versions on Mac OS. I specially remember version 7, but I'm sure I used it before then, just I didn't pay attention to numbers.
Ya that's right, I was an apple user before it was cool. Go me.
Glaiel-Gamer
KStrike155
Posted 12:42 AM 12/7/08
I remember getting our first computer. We also got some sort of manual with Windows 3.11. When my Dad turned on the computer for the first time we were trying to figure out how to get into Windows. My mom was reading from the book and said: The book says: "Go to File, Run and type: "win", then hit enter."
My dad's response: "Those books are never right, that can't be how you do it.
I, too, remember "Ski Free". So great.
KStrike155
Ubik2501
Posted 1:54 AM 12/7/08
"Later that night, alone in the backyard, he buried it next to the garage. Now I could never be sure, but I thought I heard the sound of CANYON.MID being played, gently."
Ubik2501
maven2k
Posted 1:28 AM 12/7/08
Oh man, that was on my first "real" PC "clone" that I got as a Holiday present for the whole family (I was married and had kids at the time). It was a 486 SX 25 which I eventually added a "doubler" to to speed it up. I loved learning how to use that damn thing. Commander Keen, Ski Free, and Wolfenstein, loved those games. I thought I was big $#!* when I finished Wolfenstein and none of my friends could! Remember how cool it was to resize a window and make it just the right size and arrange them on the screen just the way you wanted them?
maven2k
lilaliendog
Posted 1:26 AM 12/7/08
sadness I remember the good ol days of loading the OS via WIN
lilaliendog
KristenBal
Posted 2:39 AM 12/7/08
Man, 3.1, I can assure i had been using a computer since Win 1.0, still, I never liked it. I'd always turn on my pc, and shutdown windows (the bitch entered by tiself, just like any actual OS does)
I only used windows for paint, and I filled a package of 30 5 1/4 floppy disk with my drawings. I can remember my dad was pretty pissed because I filles his 25mb hard disk, jajajajaj, still, he was amazed that I was able to draw something good with the mouse and save it on different dated folders.
Man, 3.1, i won't miss yous, still, I salute you
KristenBal
Dont Know Me? You Are Me.
Posted 2:25 AM 12/7/08
@dallasmay: You still can, even in Vista.
Dont Know Me? You Are Me.
Vexorg
Posted 3:48 AM 12/7/08
Although it was far from being the first computer I worked with, my first PC was a 386SX/20 with 2MB RAM (later upgraded to 6MB,) an 89MB hard drive, DOS 5 and Windows 3.0. That one got superseded by a newer system (486SX/20) a couple of years later, and eventually we had a LAN of 3 (or more at times) PCs in the house that me and my brothers would use to play multiplayer Descent and Descent 2 over IPX LAN.
Eventually, when my Dad was working on a Novell Netware certification we got a Pentium 75 with 32MB of RAM and a 400 megabyte drive, and man, that thing flew (it could boot to Windows 3.11 in six seconds flat.) By the time we upgraded to the next system in line, we had moved on to Win95 though.
Vexorg
EBone
Posted 3:40 AM 12/7/08
I remember the first time I had to use 3.1.1
I still get a little sick to my stomach just seeing those screenshots.
//I Love you Mac OS 6
EBone
twilight-arc
Posted 3:26 AM 12/7/08
Oops, pasted in the wrong window :(
twilight-arc
twilight-arc
Posted 3:21 AM 12/7/08
Other maps here: [www.gsmworld.com]
twilight-arc
capitalass
Posted 3:17 AM 12/7/08
It all seemed to make so much sense when there was a real command line.
@Glaiel-Gamer: Apples were garbage before they were cool (unless it was an Apple II variant). You should have had an Amiga. Go me!
capitalass
Cetrian
Posted 4:47 AM 12/7/08
@Ubik2501: Hilarious! I just listened to it again and recalled old times. *tear*
Cetrian
cynep
Posted 5:24 AM 12/7/08
P.S.
Systematic rhythm in control
Has left me in a world without emotion in my soul
And my desire, oh, it feels like fire.
Electrifying energy of life
Generates a power to a beat as cold as ice
And my desire, it takes you higher, higher, higher
Oh yeah yeah yi
Automatic songs that fascinate
Dancin' in a trance, my mind and body activated
My desire, oh, it feels like fire. (yeah !)
Accelerate the feeling everywhere
Electronic pleasure makes the music fill the air
And my desire, it takes you higher, higher, higher
Get ready ta flex,
I'll make you bounce to these rough raw rhythm
in your mind and the galaxies.
Cause in the '95 season size in a roll,
Pass the remote control.
So I can change it up,
I get a ten'n'a half for mashing the bass up,
And it don't matter what they say
I'm like a Pentium chip and every line carries 8 k
I come with the digital, electric pleasure,
Here comes the pressure.
Known to be the man on the jams I'm the Street Fighter 2
Coz my style kicks like kung fu
Or you can get open, I got a fat PC with a 14,4 modem
Now here comes the pressure,
My interpretation of electronic pleasure
cynep
infmom
Posted 5:19 AM 12/7/08
@abemonty: My first memory of a computer was an IBM 360 mainframe...
infmom
cynep
Posted 5:14 AM 12/7/08
*Proudly polishes the dust off his Windows 1.0 5 1/4 floppies, gently strokes the sleeve on Windows 2.0 floppies, gives a near and dear hug to Windows 3.1 and WFW 3.11 and even!!!! NOT VERY WELL KNOWN 3.12!!!!*.
Still got every single MS OS since MS DOS 4.0, even my boot floppies for various games. EMM386? Maybe... IF YOU'RE A TOTAL N00B! STACKER BABY, STACKER! DOUBLEMEM! All the fun little things you used to be able to do to WFW 3.11 :)
Did you know that Windows 95 OS was also included on Windows NT 4.0 Installation CD? He He He He.
Yeah, those were the glory days. Back when I had a 2400baud modem. Downloading 1 pr0n pic from BBS - 4 hours. 1 short .GIF? 8 hours. Fapping several times while the niple loads? PRICELESS.
I still remember the confusion of seeing a 14.4 modem sell for "only" $99, while 2400 were selling for $149.99! WTF?
And to the guy who worked at babages: yeah, I worked there too. I also witnessed MS Bob on those Packard Smell computers. I almost bought one - it had a 486 DX4!!!!! with 128MB of RAM! WOW! That was a killer gaming box :-/
And to think that my iPhone could run circles around my first 5 computers.... :oD
cynep
zhouec
Posted 1:27 PM 12/7/08
MPLAYER.EXE C:\WINDOWS\CANYON.MID
i can never forget the song
zhouec
Barion
Posted 9:23 PM 12/7/08
My first PC, bought in 1994, had Windows for Workgroups (3.11) pre-installed. It was a 486DX2-66 with a whopping 8 MB of RAM, which was pretty good for the time, but as the first Pentium chip had already been released, I quickly learned I had bought into dead-end technology. Still, I had that thing for four years before the hard drive died and I moved on to a newer system using Windows 95 (of course, Windows 98 was out by then, so I was still behind, but catching up). Good times, good times.
Barion
CrashingOut
Posted 3:33 PM 14/7/08
@citizen.lambda:
and I firmly oppose what you say, because I have vivid memories as a 3 year old I played prince of Persia on a b&w mac.(And beat it) And I was born in 88! From OS/2 and DOS to 3.11 to even a trial of BOB, I had seen much by the time Windows 95 hit computing on head. So yes, your nerdiness is in question SEIZE HIM.
Funny that someone mentioned Packard Bell, that was the first computer that I HAD to upgrade from, 100 mhz didn't cut it for mech commander!
CrashingOut
masterthundar
Posted 3:20 PM 11/7/08
Awww...had an old Packard Bell with Windows 3.1, that was the "game" PC. Oh Chip's Challenge, we had so many good times...
masterthundar
lupka
Posted 2:30 PM 11/7/08
I can't stop looking at that screen shot. I had my dad's old laptop with 3.1 when I was a kid. For some reason I remember being scared of the MS-DOS Prompt; I never had a clue what it did.
lupka
headc4se
Posted 7:30 AM 16/7/08
All this talk of 386es and 486es...what happened to good ole 8086es with DR-DOS? Hercules "graphics" that rocked for basically playing Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and Wishbringer? All those classic Infocom games that ran off the floppy? Wow what an upgrade Win 3.11 was.
headc4se