sonsabitches!!

ferrdidly

@Monty:

As a computer tech I have to agree with Monty. The vast majority of laptops today run on Intel Centrino platforms. This designates not just the processor but most of the chip-set (graphics, sound, wireless) needs to fall under its designation. This makes producing a stable laptop easy for computer companies, but if there is a flaw, it affects a great number of people.

Also keep in mind that hardware is very evolutionary, not revolutionary in design on personal computers. Mostly new features are just tacked on as chip-set manufacturing shrinks. If there was an inherent design in one generation of Intel audio chip, there's actually a fair chance it carries on for a while before people make a big enough commotion that it is caught. Not a high chance, Intel prefers its equipment works as advertised (business customers have as dim a view of false advertising as consumers) but a fair chance if it is not a consistent or major problem in Intel's eyes.

jeffimix

I got a Dell notebook with Xp about 4 years ago with stereo mix. Last year and I got a new Dell notebook with Vista and no stereo mix. It has nothing to do with Xp.

There was a soundcard driver going around last year that restored stereomix on Dell's but it's hard to find now.

Unless the RIAA wants to offer a subsidy on my computer purchase I say they get their grubby mits off of my options and features. I used steromix to record talkradio....nothing at all to do with commercial music or anything the RIAA would care about.

redpeppers20xx

This cannot be said enough "FUCK YOU RIAA,PLEASE DO US ALL A FAVOR AND DIE IN A FIRE YOU CREATIVELY STIFLING SONS OF BITCHES!" I fell better now

SirNirian

I say RIAA sucks, and should be stopped.

Mr.DuckSauce

I hate the RIAA as much as the next guy, but the fishy smell probably is the halibut leftover from dinner last night. What is the simplest explanation:

1. The RIAA has been secretly meeting with laptop manufacturers to get them to turn off a feature on their laptops to stop people from doing stuff they want to do -- and no one at any of these companies leaked it in any way shape or form.

2. These manufacturers are using similar chipsets and there is a driver problem for one of the chips.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I am putting my money on the latter explanation.

Monty

Why would hardware manufacturers listen to the RIAA? None of them are in the content delivery business. I can understand Apple, Microsoft or Amazon listening to them (Surprisingly they all claim at one time or the other to stand up against RIAA for consumers ;) )

SowndOfDeth

I mean seriously, I think we can all agree on a "Go fuck yourselves, RIAA."

They've gotten so ridiculous. In fact, we wouldn't have Girl Talk if this happened.

HotFootMcCook

Seriously, I'd like to see anyone stop me from recording anything. Those RIAA goons, especially. They can suck on this:

[www.varasoftware.com]

Btw, RIAA is run by a Republican douche bag lobbyist: Mitch Bainwol

johnnyabnormal

It honestly sounds like a drivers issue to me because the RIAA has no legal right to make laptop manuf to disable certain features at this time.

TLC-BobTheBuilder

Pookie says the RIAA is sweet.

By sweet< he meant awful.

manosanta

@redpeppers20xx:
Um, I think it was that people downgraded to XP on computers that came with VIsta.

ItsRabid

whoa. hold up. they still make packard bell?!?

the_amazing_doug

@johnnyabnormal:

So, you have a Republican douche bag lobbyist fronting for a bunch of Democrat douche bag artists. Just proves that neither major party has cornered the market on douche bags. Douche bags for everyone...I'm buyin'!!!!

yelraf

1) I'm all for blaming the RIAA even if they weren't involved. The deserve all the hate they get. Past and present wrongs make them guilty until proven otherwise in my book.

2) If our government cared about consumers at all, they would make a simple law: if a device or piece of media is designed in a way that limits its functionality relative to what this type of device/media has been historically capable of, it needs to be CLEARLY LABELED AS SUCH!

EQC

It's an XP driver issue and not just confined to laptops. I noticed it after an "update" a couple years ago. Whether it's on purpose or not...you'd have to ask Microsoft and/or Creative Labs.

If it bugs you, you can probably poke around the web and find drivers to fix it.

WMyers

@the_amazing_doug: Yeah, surprisingly they do.

Hell, my first 2 PC's were Packard Bell's. Man I miss those!

xAnarChisTx

I once bought a cassette.

manosanta

The RIAA positions itself like an agency of the government. They are obnoxious impeders of technological advancement. My vote is to destroy them.

PC Tonic

super duper.

Take care, brush your hair, and don't forget to change your underwear.

manosanta

steel dildo

manosanta

Gotta love those conservative's over at the RIAA....

Vote OBAMA!

Jimbuck

I don't care if they're behind this or not, I still fucking hate this superprick organization. Fuck them in the ass with a steel dildo.

/rant

Puck

Todos mis pensamientos no son muy bien formados.

manosanta

I use Vista.

manosanta

I read www.minutouno.com for all my music related news.

manosanta

@ItsRabid

As I said,it's a soundcard DRIVER issue. There was a soundcard driver going around forums last year that when installed RESTORED steromix to your soundcard options list.
By the time I got around to it the links had gone dead but people posted before and after screen shots and it worked. It was an older LG driver that worked on Dell's newer Sigmatel audiocards that had stereomix disabled.

It has nothing to do with either Vista or Xp.

redpeppers20xx

Let us focus on what matters most to us.

manosanta

I want to be an agency of change.

manosanta

Totally Hack.

manosanta

Hey, do you feel that the future of music as we know may have changed a bit in the last ten years?

manosanta

sounds like i need a tinfoil hat. But if this is in fact true, the it's bullshit.

James

Yet we can still get this at wal-mart

[www.walmart.com]

Y2KGTP

@Puck: Make sure that steel dildo is sharp and pointy and spiked all the way around and down.

Things I hate about the U.S.:
RIAA
Bush
That new bill that violates Fourth Amendment Rights.
Fear of terrorism. (Boy, that's redundant.)
A lot more things. Still a good country, but we'd be better off without them.

nintendude

@yelraf: Pretty true. Douche bags transcend all business trades, age, race, political party, IQ level, even species. I've got proof: Almost all cats are douche bags.

johnnyabnormal

"manufacturers like Dell, Gateway and Pac Bell"

Pac Bell? What decade are you people reporting in?

zach

So, this is confined to Windows machines? Good.

xenti

I seriously doubt the RIAA is involved here. They've got bigger and worse things to worry about than the stereo mix driver on a latop computer; computers that make up only 20% of the PC market (though that % is growing). Their biggest problem is prerelease albums being leaked before the release date. This is small potatoes for them. I call FUD. Though I agree with almost all of you that the RIAA is a thorn in the consumer's side.

N@tedog

@xenti: It's confined to machines with enough market share to bother trying to influence, yes.

Bluesk1d

@entropyman: Lenovo ftw

Bluesk1d

being an electronic musician I would be pissed if this happened to me- glad I am using a lenovo

entropyman

People were complaining about this issue on their Lenovo's too, over on notebookreview

keh

"RIAA has put pressure on laptop manufacturers like Dell, Gateway and Pac Bell to remove it."

add apple to the list there buddy. mac book pro (2.1ghz core duo) + bootcamp + xp = no stereo mix recording. i found that incredibly annoying as working on multimedia using a laptop that people tell you is good for multimedia, and they remove some basic functionality out of it. very very poor.

jethrobrewin

@HotFootMcCook:
But that'd be a good thing. :P

Overall. RIAA just can't accept that artists don't need them anymore, and they can't make billions of other peoples talent any more. They're not taking it well.

WEGGLES90

RIAA to World: two ears, one source. We've decided the 1930's were right. No more stereo for you.

CapitalC

@nintendude: Personally, I'd rather fuck them with the ol' "Cactus Jack Special" -- an aluminum baseball bat, wrapped with an oil-soaked rag, wrapped again with barbed wire, and set on fire.

They deserve nothing less than the best.

HeartBurnKid

In 2006 I purchased a Toshiba M105 S3021 laptop w/Intel Core Solo T1300/1.66 GHz.

To my dismay, there was no stereo mix, wav, what-u-hear, or internal option for recording on the record console. I scoured the web for drivers and found others with similar complaint. There was no software or driver solution at the time. the only workaround I found was a suggestion to get a patch cord and hardwire the audio out to the audio in in order to record something.

ShakeelaAkuma

So, if everyone is so against the RIAA- what do you suggest they do? Only the super famous can sell records- and thats with MILLIONS of dollars in promo budget. Even then- those artists are losing millions of dollars in record sales because of the various means of illegal distribution of pirated materials. All the record labels are suffering from this - therefore ALL the artists are suffering from this. The artists on the fringes of success are being swatted down by THEIR OWN FANS- because they refuse to pay for original art- they choose to steal it instead. I am in the industry and have had fans ASK ME TO MY FACE if my record is on LimeWire yet so they could get it. People don't make the connection that downloading is like reaching into my wallet and stealing from me. How do we get people to make the connection and stop doing it?? Because the consumers refuse to be responsible the RIAA is forced to implement some crazy drastic measures. Granted - I'm a little close to the problem to be unbiased, so I bring my frustration to you consumers. What should be done?

NateAustin

So it's only a windows problem then?

skulldriveshaft