Gadgets
SVATS Anti-Theft System Bands Cars Together to Fight Crime
Posted by Sean Fallon at 5:20 AM on July 30, 2008
What if all of the cars in a parking lot were wirelessly keeping an eye on one another just in case a member of the "herd" was damaged or stolen? Sencun Zhu, an assistant professor at Penn State University, wants to make this concept a reality with his new Sensor Vehicle Anti-Theft System (SVATS). This is how it works: each car is given a coin-sized sensor that wirelessly calls roll with other cars inside a certain range. If one of these cars fails to respond to the roll or issues a "goodbye" signal when it is unlocked, the system will assume that the car has been stolen and would respond by alerting a base station.
Zhu believes that the best solution would be for each car to have a master sensor that draws power from the car and backs it up using a series of battery-powered slave sensors hidden throughout the vehicle. If the master sensor was defeated by the thief, the slave sensors would jump in and take over. Mass produced, these sensors would be cheap enough for owners to hand out at commercial parking lots as a preventative measure. Again, the SVATS is only a concept at this point, but could it make it as a real-world product? The system is designed to prevent theft, not stop a theft in progress. In my opinion, it probably wouldn't be much more effective than a built-in alarm--and a lot more complicated to boot. [LiveScience]

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Dickey
Posted 8:46 AM 30/7/08
It would be awesome if someone was breaking into your car that your car talked to all the near by ones, then all the alarms on all the cars near it al went off at the same time. Might be a little noisier then one alarms, upside can't just clip the wire and have the noise go away.
would only suck when people got used to hearing them go off, and ignore them like they do right now when a car alarms goes off.
Dickey
craighyatt
Posted 8:19 AM 30/7/08
@RigorMortis: Beat me to the punch. :) Sounds like the prof zhu needs to get out of the lab more. What fun it would be to drop a jammer in parking lot and cause a siren-pede... and pretty soon nobody would answer it. Reminds me of those "brilliant" ideas i have that my wife shoots down in about 5 sec. Need a word for ideas thought up in a vaccum that get defeated by common sense. Maybe NTBI pronounced "en-TIB-ee" standing for "Not Too Bright Idea". "OK, daddy. I'll listen, but i hope not another one of your brilliant entibees."
craighyatt
RigorMortis
Posted 8:07 AM 30/7/08
Good god. I've been woken up at six in the morning often enough to know that car alarms have a ridiculous number of false positives. Hell, I've even seen car alarms randomly go off in the middle of parking lots with no one around, or on ferries a mile out into the ocean where you couldn't steal a car anyways. The last thing we need is have police running around as well every time this happens. Well, not like they'd respond to more than a few of these calls before giving up permanently and making this whole invention nothing but a useless annoyance.
RigorMortis
nutbastard
Posted 8:02 AM 30/7/08
@Log1c:
no, the body design. newer cars are fugly.
nutbastard
atomx
Posted 7:54 AM 30/7/08
Just pop a Michael Bolton CD in the player and turn the knob to 11 (after you turn the car off). Anyone starting it will run screaming and never dare to steal a car again!
atomx
Log1c
Posted 6:50 AM 30/7/08
@nutbastard: You mean the lock?
Log1c
Silver_Back
Posted 6:47 AM 30/7/08
Oh that's just great. I wonder what would happen if someone decided to make sweet sweaty love in the back seat of their car and the alarm starts beeping. "HELP! Someone is being murdered in me! HELP!" The Police arrive to find an embarrassed pantless couple sitting the car as it refused to open it's doors to contain the "threats".
Silver_Back
GeekyNerdGuy
Posted 6:45 AM 30/7/08
@nutbastard: I did pull the wire from the coil to the distributor on my old 66 once or twice when I got really worried about it. That hood of that car could be opened from the outside -- not to mention it could be started with a screwdriver.
Cars I've owned since then have had starter kill in the alarm system.
GeekyNerdGuy
nutbastard
Posted 6:25 AM 30/7/08
@GeekyNerdGuy:
but most cars made in the last 10 years came standard with some sort of theft deterrent device. brand new cars are stolen much less frequently than 10-15 year old cars.
@IphtashuFitz:
seen it, phil hartman narrated, right?
worst combo - expensive stereo in a 70's or 80's car.
nutbastard
VideoVampire
Posted 6:23 AM 30/7/08
Might work, sort of "little brother"-ish, to coin a term, meaning not quite big brother looking over your shoulder but, well ...you get it.
VideoVampire
ziggieboi
Posted 6:16 AM 30/7/08
@IphtashuFitz: I remember the trunk monkey. Thats classic!
ziggieboi
gizmodohomepage
Posted 6:15 AM 30/7/08
Why don't all the cars just autonomously move around and block in the car being jacked! Imagine coming out to find your car surrounded by its herd, safe and protected.
gizmodohomepage
IphtashuFitz
Posted 6:10 AM 30/7/08
@nutbastard: Reminds me of an old Saturday Night Live parody ad for a car called the Chameleon. On the outside it looked like a piece of crap, with rust holes, one door covered in primer instead of paint, missing hubcaps, one white-wall tire, etc. Inside it was the most luxurious car you've ever seen.
IphtashuFitz
Hvedhrungr
Posted 6:10 AM 30/7/08
This is the first step to making our cars behave like those stupid robots in the Star Wars prequels.
"Roger roger"
Hvedhrungr
GeekyNerdGuy
Posted 6:07 AM 30/7/08
@nutbastard: Sorry, I see that Darkest Daze already pointed that out.
GeekyNerdGuy
GeekyNerdGuy
Posted 6:05 AM 30/7/08
@nutbastard: Dude, most things made in the last 10 years don't have a distributor cap.
GeekyNerdGuy
Anomynoose
Posted 5:59 AM 30/7/08
@nutbastard: haha, nice. and after that, i have a new assault missile for those idiot bikers who think they are in cars and are biking in the car lane.
Anomynoose
regexp
Posted 5:55 AM 30/7/08
My expensive german automobile has the ultimate in theft protection: a manual transmission
regexp
nutbastard
Posted 5:53 AM 30/7/08
@Anomynoose:
a rubber band and a plastic produce bag make for a decent DIY non-invasive catheter. just blow it up first to make sure there's no holes in it.
nutbastard
nutbastard
Posted 5:51 AM 30/7/08
one last suggestion - just drive a car no one would ever, ever want to steal.
another thing is (im assuming) some crooks dont know how to drive stick - and certainly a slipping clutch can be very frustrating when attempting to flee.
nutbastard
aec007
Posted 5:48 AM 30/7/08
@HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!:
What if your karate chop guy has had too many chops to his noggin himself and has short term memory problems...?
aec007
Anomynoose
Posted 5:48 AM 30/7/08
@Chromeo: i need to work on a patent for a toilet in my car. or at least a drain in the floor so i can take a leak without having to pull over or open a window.
Anomynoose
nutbastard
Posted 5:47 AM 30/7/08
@Darkest Daze:
mines 13 years old and no problem accessing it. it takes one screw.
nutbastard
ExNinja
Posted 5:47 AM 30/7/08
Why not just install Kitt.
ExNinja
Anomynoose
Posted 5:46 AM 30/7/08
@HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!: i heard not only are his offspring born with beards and chest hair regardless of gender, so are his sperm
Anomynoose
Platypus Man
Posted 5:45 AM 30/7/08
@spenc938: No need to be a jackass about it. I had to read the article 3 times before I finally saw that the car tells the "herd" goodbye when it's unlocked, so they don't freak out. You could have, you know, actually been helpful and told me anyway. Either that or, you know, not said anything?
Platypus Man
Darkest Daze
Posted 5:44 AM 30/7/08
@nutbastard:
Pulling the distributor is great and all, unless your car was made within the last 15 years....
Darkest Daze
Chromeo
Posted 5:42 AM 30/7/08
I just fill my car with feces before leaving it unattended... hasn't been stolen yet, so it must be working!
Chromeo
IphtashuFitz
Posted 5:41 AM 30/7/08
Trunk Monkey to the rescue!
+ Watch video
IphtashuFitz
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!
Posted 5:41 AM 30/7/08
@Anomynoose: Flexin? that is too much work
he just blinks and BIM BAM BoOM! baby 9 seconds later...chuck norrises off spring waits for NO ONE
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!
Valicious
Posted 5:40 AM 30/7/08
@nutbastard: Towed is yet theft in my book; epoxy which is kept temporarily concrete-solid by encrypted nanobots ,that while parked ,good for extreme breakage too while you loose them little fellas on the way and they crawl back to the pile.
Valicious
Anomynoose
Posted 5:40 AM 30/7/08
@Emiat: i thought they had died and then out of nowhere my brother sent me an email with all of these chuck norris jokes that he apparently had never heard. he said people at his work were going crazy over them. i was shocked and appalled and shocked.
Anomynoose
Anomynoose
Posted 5:39 AM 30/7/08
@HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!: how could i make fun of chuck norris? he probably is my father somehow. that man is powerful enough to impregnate women by flexing.
Anomynoose
Emiat
Posted 5:38 AM 30/7/08
@Anomynoose: Finally died? They died the best part of 2 years ago, anyone making Chuck Norris jokes now are basically digging up the corpse and proceeding to strip it bare while been unoriginal and unfunny.
Emiat
spenc938
Posted 5:36 AM 30/7/08
@Platypus Man: If you had read the article, you would know the answer to your question.
spenc938
Valicious
Posted 5:35 AM 30/7/08
@bpapa9013: That would just cure hangovers.
people are paying to get car battery shock in Mexico , five bucks man.
Valicious
nutbastard
Posted 5:35 AM 30/7/08
best solution to car theft:
do not park it anywhere it could be easily towed. there are people with tow trucks who just hook up and drive off with em that way.
install a solenoid that interrupts the starter line that is hidden switch activated.
as a last resort, you can always pop the hood and take the distributor cap with you.
nutbastard
Charging_Mooses
Posted 5:35 AM 30/7/08
@HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!: that could prove problematic, for instance, what if the karate-chopper thought you didnt pay them enough? then you know what if the person you hired is a car thief?
Charging_Mooses
Valicious
Posted 5:34 AM 30/7/08
GTA would be like Final Fantasy: random encounters with vigilantes.
Valicious
bpapa9013
Posted 5:33 AM 30/7/08
I've always been a big fan of electrifying things in this context, car seats, door handles, etc...
bpapa9013
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!
Posted 5:33 AM 30/7/08
..whoa there..don't you dare make fun of chuck norris
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!
Anomynoose
Posted 5:32 AM 30/7/08
@HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!: word. i'm pretty sure chuck norris is available for work since the chuck norris jokes have finally died.
Anomynoose
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!
Posted 5:29 AM 30/7/08
How about just hiring someone to stand by your car and karate chop the shit outta anyone who isn't you trying to touch it?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!
Platypus Man
Posted 5:26 AM 30/7/08
Yeah, I agree... it would be like several car alarms going off at once instead of just one, so presumably, it would just be more annoying and people would just have to work harder to tune them out and never hear them.
And how is it supposed to know that the owner didn't return and is taking their own car away?
Platypus Man
Alluvian
Posted 12:01 AM 31/7/08
This system would be nice if it included gps to track the stolen car, but then we are not really that far off lowjack really.
Alluvian
Miguel Valdespino
Posted 2:31 AM 31/7/08
This doesn't work unless there's a critical mass of them. (The idea of buying cheap sensors and putting them on other people's cars is a great way to get the crap beat out of you). I can imaging it might be feasible if they develop self-driving cars that communicate with each other. This could then be implemented in software.
Miguel Valdespino
taodude
Posted 3:22 AM 2/8/08
@Miguel Valdespino: Self-driving cars that communicate - I like that image! If they recognize a would-be thief, the whole "herd" could move away!
Imaging coming out of the grocery store and seeing your car, and all the cars that were near yours, parked at the lot across the street.
taodude