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Sony Gets Serious With Another Next-Gen Display Tech: FED, Like CRT But Really Thin
Posted by Matt Buchanan at 7:30 AM on July 6, 2008
Sony is probably OLED's most vocal prophet as the TV of the future. But according to Nikkei, they're hedging their bets and getting more serious with another next-gen display tech: field emission display, which is a lot like a good ol' cathode ray tube, except that it's super thin--it has all the benefits too, like deep blacks and zero motion blur. A "dream panel" says Nikkei. Plus, they're easier to build at large sizes than OLED TVs. Sony just agreed to take over a plant run by Pioneer to begin mass production of FED panels in late 2009 after holding the tech at arm's length for years.
Sony's plans for FED displays are to push them to broadcasting and medical apps first, building slowly, rather than to jump right into the high-stakes plasma/LCD war, where nobody's making money thanks to the very bloody price war. Then it'll inch into the consumer market, first with 60-inch displays (at the level they can be more profitable, obviously). Looks like after plasma vs. LCD, we might have yet another fight on our hands: FED vs. OLED. [Nikkei]

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erik
Posted July 7, 2008 6:04 PM
FED-TV is very similar to Canons SED-TV. All about SED-TV and FEd-TV at:
http://www.oled-display.info
Brian
Posted July 7, 2008 11:34 PM
I'm Dr Evil would also approve of the "Quasi-Futuristic Clothes"
FED TV Guy
Posted July 13, 2008 8:52 AM
Yes, the silver suit. I wonder if he's had second thoughts now that the photo is being republished about 100 times per day.
oldmanstan
Posted 7:56 AM 6/7/08
i wonder what the power consumption is like... one of the big selling points for LCD/OLED is that they don't require much electricity compared to CRTs. this also means (combined with their efficiency) that they don't throw off much heat. also, how bout the EM radiation?
oldmanstan
Trowble (XBL/PSN)
Posted 7:53 AM 6/7/08
Isn't there also SED from Samsung? SED vs FED vs OLED?
Trowble (XBL/PSN)
Mr.DuckSauce
Posted 7:45 AM 6/7/08
I would love to buy a fed tv, I like crt's in particular, but now that they are getting smaller, so that sound's good.
Mr.DuckSauce
Adisah
Posted 7:43 AM 6/7/08
Samsung please come pick up this tech because I don't want to buy it from Sony. Starting at 60"?? Not for me, unlesss it's super cheap like $1499.
Adisah
hu_hu_cool
Posted 7:37 AM 6/7/08
How thick?
hu_hu_cool
scrag
Posted 8:16 AM 6/7/08
Wonder how FEDs fare when it comes to weight...
scrag
TonyTriple
Posted 8:15 AM 6/7/08
Sony makes some amazing things, but why is it tha the most innovative companies are always the most closed (proprietary)? I honestly wouldn't be suprised if these new displays came with a proprietary power cord or some other peice of IP that you can only get from Sony!
TonyTriple
orionburch
Posted 8:15 AM 6/7/08
What about the health disadvantages of traditional CRTs? Do those come along too?
orionburch
heroineworshipper
Posted 8:14 AM 6/7/08
Couldn't they make up another funky name like Feduruama? Obviously it won't support HDMI but Sony's new $5000 interconnect.
heroineworshipper
ara
Posted 8:08 AM 6/7/08
Sorry about that, on a more serious note, broadcast they say? Maybe as color reference monitors? I mean the current ones are still some 13" screens that have depth twice of the width. Like this one, from Sony, naturally. I guess many would be pleased to see their hard work on a bit larger screen when checking the colors.
ara
ara
Posted 7:58 AM 6/7/08
Cool jacket pops.
ara
geffel12
Posted 8:24 AM 6/7/08
The CRT comparision is a little misleading -
This is an excerpt from wikipedia.org
A field emission display (FED) is a type of flat panel display using field emitting cathodes to bombard phosphor coatings as the light emissive medium.
Field emission displays are very similar to cathode ray tubes, however they are only a few millimeters thick. Instead of a single electron gun, a field emission display (FED) uses a large array of fine metal tips or carbon nanotubes (which are the most efficient electron emitters known), with many positioned behind each phosphor dot, to emit electrons through a process known as field emission. Because of emitter redundancy, FEDs do not display dead pixels like LCDs even if 20% of the emitters fail. Sony is researching FED because it is the flat-panel technology that comes closest to matching the picture of a CRT.[citation needed]
FEDs are energy efficient and could provide a flat panel technology that features less power consumption than existing LCD and plasma display technologies. They can also be cheaper to make, as they have fewer total components. As of yet, however, there are no consumer production models available in the United States, although small demo panels have been produced.
A similar technology to be commercialized in 2007 is the SED (surface-conduction electron-emitter display), a simplified variant of FED technology. Whereas FED uses a 'Spindt tip' semi-conductor or carbon nanotube emitter, with multiple redundant emitters per area of display[1], SED uses a single emitter based on palladium oxide laid down by an inkjet or silk-screen process.[2]. SED is considered the variant of FED that is currently feasible to mass-produce.
In 2001, Candescent had spent $600 million on producing FEDs with non-carbon material, but it was abandoned, with assets sold to Canon in August 2004, two months after filing for voluntary reorganization under Chapter 11. The UK company Advance Nanotech, in collaboration with the University of Bristol, has developed a similar panel that relies on specially doped diamond dust. The first 1000 Carbon Nanotechnologies was set to production in late 2006 by Sony. [3]
Nano-emissive display is the name given by Motorola for field emission display. A prototype model was demonstrated by Motorola in May 2005. Nano-emissive display (NED) is Motorola's term for their Carbon Nanotubes (CNTs)-based display technology.
geffel12
ackthbbft
Posted 8:49 AM 6/7/08
@Trowble (XBL/PSN): That's what I was going to mention. If I remember correctly, SED was supposed to be a technology in which each pixel has it's own CRT-like electron gun, negating a need for a tube and scanning of the single electron stream across each pixel, and supposedly cheaper than the existing plasma and LCD tech.
Last I heard it was put on the backburner.
ackthbbft
zed0
Posted 9:19 AM 6/7/08
alright! we're going back to CRT like quality? sweet!
zed0
nurble
Posted 9:16 AM 6/7/08
I saw these at NAB this year (I forget whose booth) and they look really impressive. One of the other advantages, aside from the color reproduction and the black levels is their ability to playback interlaced material, which is something that LCDs and Plasmas still struggle with.
The company showing the screens didn't have a shipping product, just proof-of-concept panels that they were showing alongside Sony BVM-grade tubes. My sense was they were trying to sell the tech to someone that could actually mass produce it...
But yeah, for color-accurate video post-production monitoring, there's not a lot out there right now, so I'm really looking forward to this (or SED) showing up for sale sometime soon.
nurble
discounteggroll
Posted 9:44 AM 6/7/08
screw FED, I wanna know more about the sick jacket that guy's got on. Sony should pursue a new business focus
discounteggroll
doublehelix
Posted 10:15 AM 6/7/08
Sony should be able to get Wesley Snipes to be their spokesman for this technology at a bargain rate...since he owes the FEDs so much money and all.
doublehelix
clondike7
Posted 10:07 AM 6/7/08
I saw these FEDs at last year's SIGGRAPH (I think that might even be the same guy in the picture that was in the booth). They were the best displays on the show, with 240hz refresh rates and CRT-like contrast ratios. Looks like everything is going to plan, he told me they were expecting 2 years til they hit the market.
clondike7
Elliuotatar
Posted 10:32 AM 6/7/08
Peace:
Ah, these things don't put out radiation. It's more like one of those suits scientists wear when they visit a volcano.
Elliuotatar
peacefulpony
Posted 10:30 AM 6/7/08
@doublehelix:
Uhhh I think it's Wesley Snipes's "black levels" that would make him a suitable sales pitch for the product.
peacefulpony
peacefulpony
Posted 10:28 AM 6/7/08
@discounteggroll:
It's prolly similar to the lead apron they make you wear at the dentist.
peacefulpony
doublehelix
Posted 12:50 PM 6/7/08
@peacefulpony:
We need to start a technology blog.
doublehelix
FiveLiters
Posted 1:18 PM 6/7/08
@oldmanstan: That's why the guy in the photo is wrapped in aluminum foil,lol
FiveLiters
MacBandit
Posted 1:06 PM 6/7/08
Give up on SED it's been tied up in court battles over the copyrights for over a year now and the word is that the rumors are that they are giving up. The problem is the technologies to make it are owned by multiple copyright owners which are not giving it up easily since they are all major manufacturers that do not want to work together and are not willing to license to a competitor.
MacBandit
hisham
Posted 4:11 PM 6/7/08
Space cadet, pops.
hisham
LittleJon
Posted 6:10 PM 6/7/08
I'm not holding my breath for FEDs. They've been just around the corner for a decade now.
Just give me my LaserVue. 10" deep is fine by me!
LittleJon
Knirfie
Posted 12:15 AM 7/7/08
FED? In late 2009? I call bullshit. FED is nowhere near ready for commercial release, maybe we'll start seeing some products around 2015...
Knirfie
alowishus
Posted 4:37 AM 7/7/08
Oh, and BTW, how come I can't see the fallout from this HDTV price war? The TVs I've been looking at have been the same price forever.
alowishus
alowishus
Posted 4:25 AM 7/7/08
Could FED work in notebooks? Hmm . . .
alowishus
hammertime94
Posted 5:42 AM 7/7/08
But crts have less vibrant colors and are less efficient than LCDs. So the same thing should go for FED vs. OLED, right?
hammertime94
uli
Posted 2:23 PM 7/7/08
@ara:
i work in broadcasting and while we do have the crt monitors we also have lcds as well. theyre just more expensive. so do you want space or money? and since most companies hate spending money...
most broadcasting companies are wating to upgrade for hdtv roll over. im sure at that time all of our monitors will be of the lcd flavor.
uli
JChristopher
Posted 11:02 PM 7/7/08
This comes up every 3-4 months and I have to submit the same comment for each new generation of commenter. This company owns the patents for using carbon nanotubes in TVs: [www.nano-proprietary.com]
At least they own the patents in the US. Just ask Canon & Toshiba. Whether they are holding the big guys hostage with exhorbitant (sp?) license fees or what, I do not know. But carbon nanotube displays in the US go through Nano-Proprietary.
JChristopher
VideoVampire
Posted 4:49 AM 8/7/08
Does it blend?
VideoVampire