i sit and listen to Pandora, and use Slingbox for days on end on my AT&T datacard and never go over 6Gb.

digitalhen

Man, with the iPhone coming out worldwide and Apple getting something like $17 a month from each subscriber, that's gotta make for a fun casual Friday in Cupertino this week.

Chester_Copperpot

Wow the petition really did work, although Roger is not saying it's unlimited data, canadians can pretty much called it unlimited, AT&T tells us in the states it's unlimited but as soon as we get to 5GB a month they wanna see WTF is going on cause no one really uses that much data

snitch29

@atuck: Well, they don't technically have a "cap" per-se, but if you are a consistently overbearing user on the network, they will send you a notice and give you one billing cycle to tone it down a notch, then they cut your data plan.

BenjiClayton

I would love to see someone try to exceed 6GB of data usage on an iphone (not counting someone who figures out how to tether it to a computer)

scaught

Wait, you have to sign a THREE year contract to get the price? Sweet titty jiggling christ... I usually squirm when companies want me to sign for anything stretching further than 12 months.

BoinK

"Arent the 'unlimited' data plans from ATT actually capped at 5GB?"
@atuck: Not true, at least back in the early days of the original.

I (along with the rest of the ModMyiPhone IRC regulars) were wondering how far we could take it before we got slapped by AT&T, and I got as far as 13GB one month, and I don't recall hearing from them.

That's not to say that all of us being a bunch of crazy assholes with unholy amounts of data usage for the past year didn't make them change their minds, though.

...and I believe that Gizmodo is singularly responsible for this. Before I left for work this morning, I read all of the complaints from Rogers customers, and when I checked when I got home? Problem solved.

Giz: 1
Money-grubbing conglomos: 0

Ginsu

For the love of god, I wish I wasn't tied to Sprint for two more torturous years.

Daddy needs an iPhone

Amsterdaam

Excellent deal for anyone who can upgrade to the Iphone and keep their retentions cell deal. And the data plan is quite a reasonable add on, back down to a price everyone was expecting.

SuperSan

Yay for Canadians and yay for the Internet! The 3-year contract is still stupid though. Oh well, can't win them all.

beyondthetech

Please note: the rogers website is still not updated with that info!!!

madlogik

@ripfire: Typical Canadian softies

bobx3

yay!

i still have to decide whether 200 bucks + 360 bucks a year is worth it, but this is good news.

i may be on my way to bank street friday morning.

danishh

This just makes me nostalgic for the days when thirty bucks Canadian was fifty cents American. Considering Canadians can buy Rockefeller Center for thirty bucks of their currency, this might not be such a great deal after all. Then again, I have been known to exaggerate.

Monty

@waza:

Uhh... We're not talking about harddrive...

michaelwiggins

Holy crap, victory!

I may actually buy one now. That's not a total ripoff!

Sportyboard

Shoot, I wasn't done being mad.

tensenki

I'm not planning on putting down the cash for an iPhone until my early termination fees either go down enough to disappear or someone (i.e. work) buys me one. But are there statistics for the average data use on iPhones in the US? I'd be curious to see how many people are paying for data that they don't even come close to using.

ark86

@atuck: They call it a "soft" cap. Apparently, you don't get charged, but if you do it too much, they call you and give you a slap on the wrist.

ripfire

Hey Roger's who's the b!tch now?

duffyanneal

Congrats, Canada. You danced with giants.

oo0cyst0oo

I have an aircard with Sprint and use it a decent amount with my laptop and last month only used 3.5gb. This was loading full web pages, viewing FLVs, downloading a few MP3s, etc. I dare say it'd be pretty hard to exceed 6gb on an iPhone. Not saying it cant be done, but you'd have to be without life and/or female company.

Dook_In_The_Urinal

6GB is not bad. It's actually good even. I'm guessing casual browsing through an iPhone would rip about a few MB per day.

ripfire

omfg

i want 32gb

waza

@ericlewis91: Arent the 'unlimited' data plans from ATT actually capped at 5GB?

atuck

@ericlewis91:

Just a word of warning. "FIRST" ain't welcome in these parts. However, congratulations on keeping the resto your post relevant.

Yeebles

6gigs a month...

Makes me wonder how many I actually go through with an unlimited plan...

Chromeo

FIRST

OMG 6GB for $30

AMAZING
Hers my plan

Heres mine

$20 voice plan, 200minutes, unlimited weekends/nights + 1000 CND long distance

$10 Unlimited Text

$30 dollars 6GB

$6.95 + 0.5 for Fees

$67.45

AMAZING

ericlewis91

Ajax: "Added to any in-market voice plan"

Plus where are you getting your WiFi access from?

Bostich

Hearing this news, I immediately started planning nefariously. What if I use this data-only plan, add a Skype program, and call away? It must use less than 6 GB of data per month, and would be oh-so-cheap. Do you guys see any holes in my scheming?

Ajax

ok, can we please now get something similar in Portugal as well? Because as things are right now I know already three people (me including) who will not become iPhone 2.0 owners anytime soon.

yogibimbi

Yah but it says "for a limited time" wonder what happens after the fact.

chrispie

I dont understand why this company is so damn evil, why do they have to be worse than at+t?
Like seriously, these guys are dicks.

superjap

If this is true... and I'm sure it is... maybe I will be showing up at Rogers Friday morning afterall...

Reapman

I wonder though, if you just add data to your existing plan will you still get access to all the hotspots and the visual voicemail?

If not then that is an additional $24 a month (that's already included in the iPhone specific plans.

Something tells me the best option is the cheapest iPhone plan with the additional data. $100+ a month for a phone though: time to buy some Rogers stock.

I'd like to see someone do a cost analysis on that.

Bostich

DAMN RIGHTS!!!!!!

Shifty203

All that so that Teddy Rogers can afford to bring the Not Football League's Bills into Toronto. Ted Rogers should be tried and hung for treason.

diverguy

Not good enough... They'll still impose certain restrictions, charge for features that should be standard. They're apply a PR Band-Aide.

On Telus, I pay $30 for Voice Plan (200 Daytime, Unlimited Evenings & Weekends starting at 6pm) & $45 for Unlimited Data (Browsing, IM, Email, Unlimited Text & Caller ID plus extended Voicemail). Comes to $93 per month after Taxes. On an HTC S640.

Rogers/Fido are the worst, it's the worst customer service, they'll switch plans and rates in mid-contract, and dole out supurflous charges for the most basic features. They have no respect for their customers. And I'm sure the scam on these plans will be that they're for a limited time... like a 3 month promotional package.

benjello

@Vxa09: You need a credit rating if you buy any cell phone. Otherwise I'm pretty sure you have to pay an extra $400 or something. I've heard of that happening. I don't really see what the problem is with getting your parents to buy it is though. Unless you don't like 2 b seen in public wif ur mommy and daddy!

ethanlechcharles

if your an average phone user (like myself) your still going to be paying over a hundered bucks per month for this.

I pay on average 80. unliited incoming. 250 daytime, 150 text, evenings and wekends at 6.

thedommer

adding the 30 dollars on. does that mean I still have to pay extra for visual voicemail? because thats the one thing that isnt on my regular plan.

thedommer

Probably a tad more reasonable than the 60GB/Month cap they have on our internet.

I WANT TO SEEEEEED, DAMN YOU.

strobefx

Im still slightly confused as to if i can even buy an iphone.
They say you need a credit card and you cant buy with cash, Im seventeen here and not many of us our age owns a credit card, so i basically have to pay my parents so they can go up there and buy it for me?

Vxa09

According to Rogers the average amount of data used for iPhone users on EDGE was 100MB / m. So.. really.. the iPhone plans aren't THAT bad.

jlindenbaum

I'm with the dommer. This is still an awful plan. I'm still going to be waiting for another provider to pop up here in Canada with cheaper plans, cheaper rates, and shorter terms. I bet within 12 months we'll have better options than Rogers.

navvywavvy

I never heard of "Rogers" until I was in Toronto for the first time last weekend. I was using my Tmobile PEBL on their network for a few days, have no idea what kind of charges that'll appear on my bill, eek. Can't wait for Friday, i'm so sick of this Motorola.

westonalan

@ericlewis91: Even though you put first you kept to the topic.
I just have to say i love how you elaborated and have everything planned out but i doubt everything will work like that.
And 6GB a month is a shxt load of browsing even if its on HSPA. Isn't HSPA's speed 1.5MBps correct me if im wrong.
I doubt many people in Canada will be able to even pass 2GB.
If AT&T caps @ 5GB then that means these guys are actually offering better than AT&T. About time they start treating those Canadians right.
And back to the first commenter 100 anytime minutes is what you get on sprint for 5dollars (last time i checked) they're charging too much. They remind me of verizon.

SneakerFiend

HA! I'm sure I'm not the only one that read this but I thought you said they had a 6GB iPhone - like there is an 8GB and 16GB iPhone.

dallasmay

Good job Canadians, we need to keep it clear that these companies can't fuck us.

robotleawesome

its better then it was before but its not good enough. give us 2 years contract and the option of a cheaper plan $30 a month for 6 gb or $15 a month for 2 or 3 and Ill be happy. 3 year contract is INSANE. most phones last 2 years. thats total BS. if I get an iphone Ill probably want a new one next year!

thedommer

lets hope we can get the same data plans for the blackberry bold and thunder.

chrispie

@chrispie: They resume with their regularly scheduled rip-off.

This is merely damage control and spin combined.

Consumers will be screwed less as gratitude for giving them enough signups to exceed supply so they can blame Apple for the supply bottleneck when no phones are available. In doing so they're going to try to make them look like the bad guy and that Apple doesn't care about you. They'll hope this will put enough pressure on Apple to release of more handsets to them for re-sale. By that time the promo will be over and the plans will be the regular rates that everyone had a problem with in the first place.

Rinse and repeat if Apple tries to restrict supply again after that.

The early adopters gain an, Rogers gets some sales and PR points by pretending to care, and the market still gets screwed. You can stick your iPhone Ted.

skinned

Hey Gizmodo, your title is not correct.
On Rogers' website, it is : "For example, you may choose to combine one of our new data plans ranging from $30 per month (for 300MB) to $100 per month (for 6GB) with a voice plan."

iPhone plans: [www.rogers.com]
DATA plans: [www.rogers.com]

NicleT

@deadrobot: looks that way

wolfshades

What happens after Aug 31? No more 6G plan for new sign ups?

deadrobot

@Chromeo go to Settings-->Usage

Yifkong

The customers finally won one. And now, Rogers will win as the news cameras film scenes of customers lining up early at Rogers stores. Rogers wins. Their shareholders win. All because the customers get to win.

Meanwhile over at the other ranch, Rogers' main competitors, Bell and Telus, are rubbing their evil hands in glee as they make plans to start charging for incoming text messages. Including spam messages.

Bell hands Telus the gun. Telus grabs gun and shoots own foot. Film at 11:00

wolfshades

This is one for the history books: outraged customers have managed to impact a company's marketing plans. About time. It was an intelligent decision on their part because now you will see lineups at these stores on Friday.

Rogers will win. Their shareholders will win. All because the customer gets to win for once. Not bad.

Meanwhile over at the other ranch, Rogers' competitors (Bell and Telus) are rubbing their evil hands in glee, as they make plans to start charging for INCOMING text messages. Including spam. Bell hands Telus the gun. Telus grabs gun and shoots own foot. Film at 11:00

wolfshades

A $15 data plan for 50 or 100MB would be a great option too. I think Rogers' $15 data plan for Blackberry gets you 1.5MB (yes, megabytes), and the $30 plan is 300MB now. If they would beef up the $15 plan to a level that's not insulting, they could sell a lot of those plans, for both iPhones and Blackberries.

Brandson

When comapred as a overall package we are still getting WAAAAYY less:

[www.iphonebold.com]

hingkit

wow, good news in the land of Canadia

MrBlahBlah

Meh... add 30$ to my current plan plus visual voicemail and I'm still over 90$/month.. I'll pass.

Posavoie

Now if Canadian wireless providers would just get rid of the phony "system access fee" they charge everyone every month pretending it's a government fee, we'd be all set.

Brandson

@SuperSan: sorry I misread. Still, I don't think this promo will "reheat" my deception.

NicleT

@Bostich: I don't see a need for WiFi, just call over 3G. The "add to a voice" side of it is disappointing, though. I'll need to research to see if I could get a way with the cheapest voice plan (not iPhone-specific) and add the data plan onto that.

Ajax

NicleT, you are wrong. This is a two month promo by Rogers giving you 6gb for 30$ for 3 years only if you sign a new activated phone to a 3 year plan. Rogers may still win in the end, but it was Apple that brought Canada out of the 5cent/kilobyte dark ages.

SuperSan

@wolfshades: The customers won reprieve; that is all that's happened here. I think everyone is taking this whole "victory" for the little guy thing way too far. Rogers thinks their consumers are idiots with short memory by offering such a short-lived solution to the uproar. I'm beginning to think they're right (I'm not implying you are btw). We'll know for sure after the promo expires.

skinned

Yes!
Anyone want the rest of my sweet Bell contract?(year and a half...:()

crazy0000

Well its a start. But I wonder when Teddy will be proactive and rathern than just have the $30 data as a promotion make it full time...or even better, make the 6GB standard data plan and make the only variable the voice plan. That would be the truly proactive and consumer conscience thing to do. (Ya right, its Robbers)

As for those who are moaning and complaining about the 3 year contract - well thats the way Robbers has been since I got my first cell over a decade ago. So there really is no change there. I am not saying I am ok with it, but its been the policy for a long time with any purchase of a cell for the best price they can offer.
The second question I have, which I may have to direct to the Gold ol' minions of Robbers CS is whether the 3 year contract must include both data and voice, or if (to appease the wife) i can cancel the data and just have voice? (Before I get flamed, I know "whats the point of having an iphone with no data?" to that i respond..IT'S JUST A QUESTION, and remember 'happy wife, happy life').

Boxcar

Well its a step in the right direction. Now to be really proactive (rather than reactive) the 6gig should be standard and only airtimes should affect the price. Think Ol' Teddy will do this? And, how long till the 'promotion' will become permenant?

Also, unfortunately for all the ney-sayers on the 3 year contract, Robbers has always had a 3 year sign up with a HUP/new phone. So thats really no different. Crappy, but no different. Which leads me to my second question, which I may have to give some of Ted's minions a call about. If is sign up and buy (with promo obviously) can i cancel the data portion of the contract and just have my old voice plan only? (thus eliminating $30/month in order to appease the wife if need be). Or do i have to be on both voice and data for all 3 years?

Boxcar

3 year contract?!?
wow, and i thought us americans had it bad with 2 year contracts.
kind of sucks for everyone buying an iphone after august 31st though, they still get stuck will the shit plans.

friedgold

@jlindenbaum: Thats cause we never had a phone that could browse the web as easily as the iPhone..

ipodrulz

Too bad it's for a limited time only.

dagamer34

Well after all the various fees canadian users get stuck with they'll still be paying more than Americans and in a longer contract, but overall sounds like a much improved deal.

Unfortunately, after August 31st apparently we'll be right back where we started . . .

Faxmonkey

tho this is a much better deal then before 3yr mendatory contract and voice plan rates and stupid access fee are still a rip off - i am jaded so i am wandering if all of that was a smooth marketing ploy on Rogers' behalf - than again maybe I am giving them to omuch credit

monkeemike

I was reading the iPhone Voice and Data Packages fine print and saw this:

"Roaming charges apply while using your iPhone outside Canada. U.S. data roaming on iPhone Packages is $3/MB."

Watch out those who travel to the US!

[www.rogers.com]

xterminal

This is from their data plan web site [www.rogers.com]

"While the iPhone 3G Voice and Data Packages allow you to use this device to its fullest and offer savings over separate voice and data plans, they are not the only options available to you. Other pricing options are available. For example, you may choose to combine one of our new data plans ranging from $30 per month (for 300MB) to $100 per month (for 6GB) with a voice plan. Learn More. They are available by calling 1 888 ROGERS1 or by visiting your nearest Rogers retail location."

Error in the website? or the news releases...

tailwind

[www.rogers.com]

I think the news release is misleading, it provide a $30 plan and 6GB plan...but the catch is $30 for 300MB, $100 for 6GB. NOT $30 for 6GB.

"While the iPhone 3G Voice and Data Packages allow you to use this device to its fullest and offer savings over separate voice and data plans, they are not the only options available to you. Other pricing options are available. For example, you may choose to combine one of our new data plans ranging from $30 per month (for 300MB) to $100 per month (for 6GB) with a voice plan. Learn More. They are available by calling 1 888 ROGERS1 or by visiting your nearest Rogers retail location."

tailwind

I just got back from a Rogers Wireless store and they didnt even have a clue about the 6GB offer.

I went in inquiring about not getting a new iphone, but attaching one of the new iphone plans to my existing 1st generation Iphone.

They said it couldnt be done...and I was liek whaaaa

what does this mean for us early canadian adopters who have the phone, but now just want the data?

JoshuaKenny

yeah good for the early adopters, but rogers is still fucking you brutally if you sign the contract from september onwards. i love you canadians, but your phone companies abuse the balls off of you, therefore i can't ever afford to live among you and still have a cell phone with internet access.

3 year contract, and no way of getting fair pricing unless you sign up before september....not even AT&T is doing that. so much for any plans of moving to mr. rogers' neighborhood.

rimplestultskin

@NicleT:

You guys are being dumb. They haven't update the prices on the website yet. Those are the old prices. The press release they sent out this morning said they are offering $30 for 6GB for a limited time, but takes effect July 11th. Gizmodo is not wrong, That is the offical press release from Rogers. You can find it under investor relations-Press Releases on Rogers site.

Shifty203

@Obsidian:

Ditto for me. ...oh and did I mention that I am cancelling your asses Rogers?? ...oh right, like a hundred times already!

kuryaking

Not good enough for me, Rogers. Pass.

Obsidian

Better than ATT's 5GB 'soft cap'.

wcnghj

I just spoke to Customer Relations at Rogers and you cannot purchase an iphone unless you are a new customer or you are already eligible for a hardware upgrade. WTF!

superyoma

@tailwind:
He's right:

[www.rogers.com]

100$ / 6 GB!

$15 = 2 MB (over charge = $10/MB)

$25 = 4 MB (over charge = $10/MB)

$30 = 300 MB (over charge = $0.50/MB)

$60 = 1 GB (over charge = $0.50/MB)

$80 = 3 GB (over charge = $0.50/MB)

$100 = 6 GB (over charge = $0.50/MB)

they also propose a FLEX plan ?!!!
$50-$100 = 500 MB to 5 GB (between 0.01 and 0.02 cents per MB) (over charge = $0.03/MB)

How Does it Work?

#
Each month, the Rogers Flex Rate Plan automatically adjusts your Monthly Service Fee based on your actual data usage.
#
You will start each month at Tier 1 ($50 base Monthly Service Fee and up to 500 MB of data usage).
#
If your monthly usage exceeds 500 MB, then you move up automatically to Tier 2 ($65 Monthly Service Fee and up to 1 GB of data usage).
#
If your monthly usage exceeds 1 GB, then you move up automatically to Tier 3 ($75 Monthly Service Fee and up to 2 GB of data usage).
#
If your monthly usage exceeds 2 GB, then you move up automatically to Tier 4 ($85 Monthly Service Fee and up to 3 GB of data usage).
#
If your monthly usage exceeds 3 GB, then you move up automatically to Tier 5 ($100 Monthly Service Fee and up to 5 GB of data usage).
#
If your monthly usage exceeds 5 GB, then you pay only 3¢ per additional MB.

... see they aren't THAT cheap afterall!

madlogik

@ericlewis91: I get the feeling this is the same Eric Lewis from iLounge (?) because saying first is just a part of his age range.

On topic, I'm glad Rogers listened but not glad they're charging $30 for what should be essentially a part of the plan at no extra cost. I burned through 10GB of my bandwidth just by watching Youtube videos so I'm not sure how fast it'll be burned through on the iPhone.

kylo4

The promotion of optional add on iPhone 6 GB data plan for $30.00 on a 36 month term with DECF $100.00 is correct and available to only iPhones sold through authorized Rogers dealers, not for unlocked iPhones purchased on eBay, Craigslist, etc. This information was released to all dealers Nationally today and will be updated on the Rogers.com website soon. Keep in mind though that it will cost customers more by choosing a separate minimum $30.00 voice plan plus minimum $30.00 data plan plus features such as $7.00 call display, $8.00 visual voicemail and $10.00 2500 National sms (text messages) as well adding SAF $6.95 and 911 $0.50 = $92.45 plus taxes which doesn't get you access to free WIFI at Hotspots, 2500 local call forwarding minutes or the 10000 sms. It would of been better and easier for the company to just up the data bucket on all the iPhone all in one plans to include 6 GB of data and just vary the pricing based on the voice minutes included.

imagine-engine

so the question is with my unlocked iPhone, will I be able to change my existing plan with rogers to the iphone plan, so i can get data and visual voicemail and such?

JoshuaKenny

That 6GB is still double to the speed-crippled 3GB (the limit is mentioned in the smallest print) we have here in Finland. Well, it's ONLY EUR 16 (about $25) per month but still.

TeliaSonera is ripping us off in every other manner too. Cheapest of the three basic options is EUR 31.69 (around $50) and what do we get? A single one hundred of everything! 100min calls, 100 SMS, 100MB of data... Wait, what? Yes. 100MB! It's like three YouTube videos and two square miles of Google Maps or so? Jeez...

I made some quick calculations that if I'd personally switch over to TeliaSonera my phone bill would go AT LEAST triple - just for calls, SMS and data. Even with the "fully customizable" subscription. So dear Canada - We share your pain.

atheos