Cameras
Canon Updates HD Palmcorders With HF11, HG21 Versions
Posted by Kit Eaton at 6:03 PM on July 22, 2008
Canon's AVCHD HF10 camcorder got an excellent reception earlier this year, and now Canon have tweaked it slightly into the upcoming HF11 version. The most important tweaks are doubling the internal storage from 16GB to 32GB and the addition of a 24Mbps high quality MXP imaging mode. Otherwise, most features of the camera remain the same. Similar tweaks have been made to last year's HG10 HDD camera, adding in the 24Mbps shooting mode, a 120GB drive and now allowing movies to be saved onto SD card whereas before it was limited to still imagery. Both cameras will be available in August for US$1,300. [AVWatch]


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Eugenia
Posted 6:52 PM 22/7/08
At last!!!
The first AVCHD *consumer* cameras that record in AVCHD's highest bitrate limit (24mbps, according to the AVCHD standard). Now, the HG11 doesn't have a great lens (smaller sensor, slower lens than the HV20/30's), but the HF11 should be an overall great buy!
I will wait a few more months for my dream poweruser consumer AVCHD camcorder to get announced, where that 24mbps bitrate is there, a better lens, focus ring, maybe bigger sensor, full manual mode to separately configure Canon's cinemode, aperture, shutter speed, and that would rock my world...
Eugenia
Eugenia
Posted 7:22 PM 22/7/08
Sorry, I made a mistake above. Apparently the HG11 is the one with 37mm filter thread, which is pretty bad for us HV20/30 users who would like to upgrade to it... I got too many accessories for my HV20 to see them go to waste (step-up/step-down rings won't do it in my case).
Eugenia
Eugenia
Posted 7:05 PM 22/7/08
I just checked the pictures and while the HF10 and HF11 are the same, the HG11 is VASTLY different than the HG10. Which means that there was a major rework both in and out of the camera. This is great news, because I wasn't really happy from the HG10 lens quality, but this one seems to be much better. Plus, the filter thread is now 43mm instead of 37mm, which means that all the HV20/HV30 lens accessories and 35mm adapters are now compatible with the HG11 without the need of step-up rings that might break from the lenses' weight. Good stuff.
Eugenia
KoRnholio8
Posted 8:30 PM 22/7/08
wow, this is some exciting news... 7mbs upgrade on the bitrate should make all the difference now... i wonder that Panasonics 3MOS will be like tough
KoRnholio8
liquidsoapdispenser
Posted 10:18 PM 22/7/08
Yeah, finally using the full AVCHD spec will hopefully (finally) get it past the motion artifacts.
@KoRnholio8: The new Panasonics use fairly small 1/6" chips, so I worry the image quality and low light performance won't be that great -- seems many of the bigger single-chip cameras have been performing better than the tiny three-chip cameras.
liquidsoapdispenser
onesix18
Posted 10:41 PM 22/7/08
I was about to buy the HF10...now I'm confused.
onesix18
GeekyNerdGuy
Posted 11:39 PM 22/7/08
@Eugenia: Hopefully they got the HG11 on the same codecs as the HF10/HF100, but with the HDD built in. The HG10 got slammed for it's jittery, unusable 24fps recording settings.
GeekyNerdGuy
GeekyNerdGuy
Posted 11:37 PM 22/7/08
@onesix18: The HF10 has a bit rate of 17 Megabytes per second (Mbps). The HF11 will have essentially the same feature set, but will record at 24Mbps, so it should have even better picture quality.
I'm a little ticked since I just bought an HF100 three months ago.
GeekyNerdGuy
liquidsoapdispenser
Posted 12:09 AM 23/7/08
According to camcorderinfo.com: "The Canon iVIS HF11 and HG21 are scheduled for release in September for the Japanese market only."
liquidsoapdispenser
Fremen93
Posted 9:47 AM 23/7/08
I knew this would happen eventually but didn't realize it would only be a few months after I bought my HF100. But, then again its only going to be available in Japan initially and it will be twice the price of what I paid for my HF100...One negative of the 24mbps is that the file size will go up meaning you won't be able to fit an hour in an 8 gig SDHC card anymore.
Oh well, at least I'm not stuck with the 15mbps models from the year before :)
Fremen93