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Breaking: Final Fantasy 13 Coming to Xbox 360
Posted by John Mahoney at 5:04 AM on July 15, 2008
That's right,
it's EXCLUSIVE to Xbox 360. Sony and Nintendo are weeping now. Final Fantasy is a game-changing franchise that can carry a console--especially in Japan, where the 360 has struggled mightily. That's a hell of a "one more thing" to finish off Microsoft's E3 Keynote. UPDATE: Whew, Sony can breathe a little easier. It's not exclusive after all, we got ahead of ourselves--the release will coincide with the PS3 version. Still--awesome.

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leetXcore
Posted 7:12 AM 15/7/08
BREAKING.
Super Mario Galaxy and MGS4 are also 360 exclusive.
leetXcore
Kanti_V2
Posted 7:10 AM 15/7/08
@BostonPimpDaddy: Um, you do know Halo 3 (thankfully) was never released on the PS3, right? So there's no comparison there, and COD4, and GTAIV did nearly exactly the same on the PS3 as on the 360, the difference was negligible. But even if it does double their sales, which it won't, this probably had more to do with another fat bribe from MS. I'm betting it makes the GTA bribe look like chump change.
On the Square side, this just looks like a dumb move. Not only do they piss off a lot of fans by pushing back the release date while they wait for the 360 version, and dumbing down the graphics to keep them looking and running the same (ala GTAIV), but they're vastly over estimating the demand from 360 owners. They're not usually the type for console RPG's, which have all done horribly on Xbox (they're more likely to buy what ever version of Madden is out that week, or the latest rehashed FPS, or Gran Turismo rip-off). And unless Square is able to dumb it down a LOT, that's going to be a lot of discs to ship for one game, greatly increasing their cost for a game targeted at those with too short of an attention span to even be interested in a Final Fantasy game.
What this really says, is they don't think the new game is going to be very good, or live up to the incredible hype, so they need as many people as possible to pre-purchase it to turn a profit.
And I would make a RROD jab here at this POS console, and it's blindly pathetically devoted fanboys, and how many consoles a 60+ hour game would kill, but it's not very funny now that my 360 just died, after destroying my copy of NGII. :(
Kanti_V2
berribrand
Posted 7:05 AM 15/7/08
Ahh well, the keynote didn't mention FFXIII-Versus? But I guess I would assume a crossplatform release as well, although it is a different development team, right?
Also, Disgaea 3 is still exclusive? :)
berribrand
Lestat
Posted 6:56 AM 15/7/08
That kinda pisses me off a little.
Lestat
Rhainor
Posted 6:53 AM 15/7/08
@Platypus Man: And I hate turn-based combat, so myeh.
Rhainor
BostonPimpDaddy
Posted 6:48 AM 15/7/08
@OMG! Ponies!: AMEN!
If you want to play videgames, get a 360
If you want to play bluray movies, get a PS3
If you want to exercise, get a Wii
;)
BostonPimpDaddy
BostonPimpDaddy
Posted 6:46 AM 15/7/08
@Rabid Penguin: Yah that's true, but my point was the amount of games sold, the 360 is doing very well, exclusive or non-exclusive games.
BostonPimpDaddy
BostonPimpDaddy
Posted 6:45 AM 15/7/08
@Jimbuck: Good question, I think def the US sales. The 360 game sales far outweigh the PS3 and Wii .
BostonPimpDaddy
OMG! Ponies!
Posted 6:38 AM 15/7/08
@Vindicoth: God of War 3 shipped? That's news.
OMG! Ponies!
OMG! Ponies!
Posted 6:36 AM 15/7/08
@marm0lade: First of all, why the name-calling? It's really unnecessary.
Second, exclusives sell consoles. End of story. Microsoft has been taking them from Sony for years. What are Sony's console-moving exclusives? Resistance and MGS4. That's it.
Gran Turismo 5?! It's half of a game and, more importantly, while GT's makers were busy cramming microphones into engine blocks, Project Gotham's makers were investing in gameplay. PGR3 moved XBoxes. GT does not move PlayStations.
You say Resistance; I say Halo 3, Gears of War, Dead Rising, Bioshock. And if you want to bring God of War into it, let me ask you this:
Is it on the shelves?
The MGS4 refrain has been trotted out by every defender of Sony's honor for 3 years now. It wasn't until a month ago that people could answer "yes" to the above question.
Sony has games that people look forward to; Microsoft has games that people can play today.
Don't get me wrong - I love my PlayStation 3. It's real good at playing Blu-Ray movies. But if I'm going to play video games, I'm turning on my 360.
OMG! Ponies!
Rabid Penguin
Posted 6:35 AM 15/7/08
@BostonPimpDaddy: I'm pretty sure Halo 3 was never released for the PS3 :c)
Rabid Penguin
Jimbuck
Posted 6:33 AM 15/7/08
@BostonPimpDaddy: Are we talking worldwide or in the US?
Jimbuck
BostonPimpDaddy
Posted 6:33 AM 15/7/08
@man in gauze is king ramses II, silly.: Wii may be outselling the consoles, BUT 360 owns them both in amount of games sold.
BostonPimpDaddy
DJTripleRRR
Posted 6:31 AM 15/7/08
@BostonPimpDaddy: I don't believe it's that. I'm actually not that surprised by this, was dreading it but it still happened. SquareEnix has been saying for a WHIIIILE they wanted to grow there non-japanese fanbase.
DJTripleRRR
DJTripleRRR
Posted 6:29 AM 15/7/08
@LittleBigPlaneteer: Huh? Did you not just read the headline? Also I wonder if FFXII Vs will still be exclusive
DJTripleRRR
SneakyElf
Posted 6:29 AM 15/7/08
lets just get the facts straight instead of trying to rush out the news to be .. first.. please.
SneakyElf
BostonPimpDaddy
Posted 6:28 AM 15/7/08
Further proof the 360 is the dominate game console right now. No software game maker wants to miss out on the amount of $$$ there is to be made with an excellent title for the 360. See Halo3, CoD4, GTA IV sales vs PS3 sales of those games.
BostonPimpDaddy
rentahero1
Posted 6:28 AM 15/7/08
@LittleBigPlaneteer: Uhhh?
Where'd you get that idea? Kitase and Hashimoto just said it's coming to 360. Here's the deal as I understand it:
- Late: Japanese PS3 release
- (Much?) Later: USA PS3 + 360 simultaneous release
- Even later: Europe PS3 (+ 360?) release
rentahero1
draconis1492
Posted 6:26 AM 15/7/08
@Vindicoth: So your logic says marm0lade is an asshole for calling OMG! Ponies! an idiot but OMG! Ponies! is not for telling "people who game on the PLAYSTATION 3 can all suck it -", Nice double standard!
draconis1492
Jimbuck
Posted 6:26 AM 15/7/08
@OMG! Ponies!: Come on now man. No reason to get hostile @ PS3 owners. Let's see if you can try to be a little more responsible with your choice of words.
Jimbuck
LittleBigPlaneteer
Posted 6:21 AM 15/7/08
FFXIII is still a PS3 exclusive btw
LittleBigPlaneteer
man in gauze is king ramses II, silly.
Posted 6:20 AM 15/7/08
...why is the Wii outselling both of these consoles, again? It's an honest question; as a PS3 owner, I'm kind of depressed at this news, but hell, the Wii seems to be relatively immune to this kind of thing. Strange.
man in gauze is king ramses II, silly.
MasterYong
Posted 6:16 AM 15/7/08
@TheUsedVersion: Whoa, boy. Down, boy. DOWN!
Take a chill-pill, man.
MasterYong
SojuBoy
Posted 6:14 AM 15/7/08
@DJTripleRRR:
Square loves money. Not the company. Square shows Nintendo alot of love.
SojuBoy
dagwud
Posted 6:14 AM 15/7/08
Well, nertz. Now I'm going to have to buy a PS3 or an X360 so the wife can feed her FF addiction.
Dangit. We haven't even finished FF XII yet!
dagwud
rentahero1
Posted 6:13 AM 15/7/08
Kotaku's liveblog of the presser seems to indicate it's still PS3-exclusive in Japan, so... this won't do jack for 360's horrible situation there.
rentahero1
DJTripleRRR
Posted 6:11 AM 15/7/08
F*CK! Was so excited because this was the one exclusive I KNEW would push PS3 sales 10 fold! but now I guess it'll only push them 4 fold cause I doubt it gives X360 owners a reason to buy PS3 now... Still won't do anything for sales of X360 in Japan. Why the heck would they choose the X360 over the PS3 when they root for the PS3 anyways.
DJTripleRRR
Vindicoth
Posted 6:11 AM 15/7/08
@marm0lade: He's an idiot because you can come up with TWO exclusives? Oh yeah and you forgot God of War. Thats 3. Good job on being an asshole though.
Vindicoth
SojuBoy
Posted 6:10 AM 15/7/08
Actually FFXIII is only announced for the 360 for North America and Europe. In Japan, it's still exclusive to the PS3 (larger install base).
Source - [www.1up.com]
So much for it helping to sell 360's in Japan. :)
SojuBoy
Vindicoth
Posted 6:09 AM 15/7/08
Well, one less game I'll have to buy a PS3 for.
Vindicoth
goOutSide
Posted 6:05 AM 15/7/08
@Mike918: I don't see how that really screws Sony over in the rest of the world. North America maybe, but in Europe the install base almost matches the 360 and it was released a year later. It's not always about software, but more about the raving fanboys of the world who flame every little thing that goes on. Sony will do just fine, the 360 will do just fine. They'll be fighting another overpriced console war in 3-4 years.
goOutSide
DW
Posted 6:05 AM 15/7/08
Amazing how, just 7 years ago, Sony and Nintendo didn't take Xbox seriously, isn't it?
DW
marm0lade
Posted 6:03 AM 15/7/08
@OMG! Ponies!:
Yea, nice job poaching MGS4 and the Gran Turismo line, idiot.
marm0lade
Monty
Posted 6:01 AM 15/7/08
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Monty
Sora57
Posted 6:00 AM 15/7/08
You might want to just pull the whole post, and put it up again as that it simply is multi-platform. Props for leaving it up and admitting the error, but it might be better to just delete and post correctly?
Anyway, this is a blow to Playstation, but not that bad. It will be interesting to compare the two games on each platform after release. Which will be better-- the Blu Ray disc or the 360?
Sora57
mitchel_stevens
Posted 5:59 AM 15/7/08
Breaking: Video Game to Appear on Two Next-Gen Platforms. Dewey Beats Truman according to Gizmodo's Peter Rojas.
mitchel_stevens
Posavoie
Posted 5:59 AM 15/7/08
Sony poached Squaresoft from Nintendo... so I don't have a problem with Sony losing it's exclusivity for any games whatsoever.
Posavoie
Mike918
Posted 5:54 AM 15/7/08
Yeah i agree definitely not beating Sony in japan but in the rest of the world Sony just got FUCKED big time and if they don't put their act together at their conference or in the next months they just lost this war.
Mike918
zed0
Posted 5:53 AM 15/7/08
nice plus! lots of people will be happy about this
zed0
OMG! Ponies!
Posted 5:51 AM 15/7/08
And this is why people who game on the PLAYSTATION 3 can all suck it -
Because Microsoft keeps poaching Sony's exclusives
I think that's a "One More Thing..." that even Jobs would be proud of.
OMG! Ponies!
xCruciaLx
Posted 5:50 AM 15/7/08
lol.
That exclusive-360 failed much harder than what Sony did.
xCruciaLx
Voohoo
Posted 5:49 AM 15/7/08
FFXIII coming to 360...it just feels...so wrong. But whatever. It's coming to both PS and XB. I don't know how Giz got the impression that it was exclusive to 360. That would be un-possible!!
Voohoo
spidoman
Posted 5:48 AM 15/7/08
Sony can breath "a little easier"? How about can not be worried about it at all. The 360 doesn't sell in Japan, no matter the game.
And saying sony can do something because Gizmodo writers will post fanboy crap without knowing anything at all?
spidoman
DashTheHand
Posted 5:47 AM 15/7/08
It still won't sell consoles in Japan. Why would they buy it for a console most don't have when they already prefer PS3 and its coming out for that as well.
Its really only good news for Euro/US gamers where the PS3/360 marketshare is still pretty evenly divided.
DashTheHand
Jimbuck
Posted 5:45 AM 15/7/08
Exsclusive to XBox360? Is this some kind of sick joke?!?!
Jimbuck
RetepNamenots
Posted 5:43 AM 15/7/08
HAHAHAHAHAHA
RetepNamenots
Mless
Posted 5:43 AM 15/7/08
I almost had a chance to gloat over my friend who just payed out the ass for a PS3...Giz reporting false news makes me sad...
Mless
violentsingalong
Posted 5:43 AM 15/7/08
Shit. Now the graphics are going to suck.. When games are developed for both platforms it always makes the graphics less than they could be.
violentsingalong
Chromeo is typing this on his iPhone 3G
Posted 5:43 AM 15/7/08
Ho-Lee Mother of God...That is some pretty big news!
Chromeo is typing this on his iPhone 3G
AciSpades
Posted 5:41 AM 15/7/08
my reaction...
OH WOW...(reads update)
...oh nevermind
:D
AciSpades
Platypus Man
Posted 5:40 AM 15/7/08
Man, Final Fantasy is lame after FFX. I am not a fan of real-time battles.
Platypus Man
blazio
Posted 5:24 AM 15/7/08
holy guacamole!
blazio
SojuBoy
Posted 5:23 AM 15/7/08
"At long last, the day we have all been waiting for has arrived. It gives me great pleasure to unveil this to you today. An Xbox 360 version of FF13, the latest in the FF series, is planned for release! We believe that releasing a 360 version of FF13 will allow us to provide a game to even more fans in NA and across the world. ... "Last of all, I wanted to thank Don for giving me the opportunity to make this presentation, and of course, all of you for your kind attention and continued support of SqEnix."
Get it right. NOT EXCLUSIVE...both ps3 and xbox 360 are getting it. NON-EXCLUSIVE title.
EPIC FAIL GIZMODO
SojuBoy
TheUsedVersion
Posted 5:23 AM 15/7/08
You should be fired for reporting inaccuracies. Check your facts again.
TheUsedVersion
TheDoomer
Posted 5:23 AM 15/7/08
It's actually not a 360 exclusive, from what I've seen. It's going to be out on ps3 and 360, same day.
TheDoomer
Antioch18
Posted 5:22 AM 15/7/08
Uh. I thought it's coming to Xbox360 in addition to PS3 - not that it's been removed from PS3 and only launched on Xbox360....... let's be careful about what we claim ;)
Antioch18
jfwaterburry
Posted 5:21 AM 15/7/08
wait... your liveblog said it would launch on PS3 & XBOX 360 simultaneously. ??
jfwaterburry
nusqax
Posted 5:20 AM 15/7/08
thats a lie...
nusqax
goOutSide
Posted 5:20 AM 15/7/08
Is Giz sure this is exclusive? Every liveblog I can access says simultaneous release on 360 and PS3.
goOutSide
MykalBloom
Posted 5:20 AM 15/7/08
Seriously? You know it isn't right. I mean it's coming to 360, but no exclusively.
MykalBloom
TheUsedVersion
Posted 5:18 AM 15/7/08
You should be fired for reporting false news. Check your facts again.
TheUsedVersion
aznxenocide
Posted 5:17 AM 15/7/08
WHAT. There is no way this can possibly be true. This would destroy the PS3.
aznxenocide
kwicherbichin
Posted 5:16 AM 15/7/08
Nuh uh.
You...you're...jokin....right? How the hell am I going to convince my wife to let me buy a 360?
kwicherbichin
friedgold
Posted 5:15 AM 15/7/08
wait...exclusive?
i thought the announcement said it was a same day release for the ps3 and 360...
friedgold
draconis1492
Posted 5:15 AM 15/7/08
WTF!
Any other PS3 owners with me in starting a Square Enix boycott?
draconis1492
LittleJon
Posted 7:41 AM 15/7/08
I've been in Japan for over two days and I haven't seen a single Xbox 360.
Oh, I've not see a PS3 either. Or a Wii!
My conclusion is that Japanese only play PSPs and DS on the train! :-P
LittleJon
ChanceFisher
Posted 7:33 AM 15/7/08
I disagree with the "dumbing down" comment about 360 graphics. I own both consoles, and GTA4 looks better on my 360 than my PS3.
I think this will be a fairly big blow to the PS3. I would have grudgingly bought FFXIII for the PS3, but I would have rather bought it on the 360. And now I will.
I'm no fanboy either way, it just seems like the cross-platform wins always end up in the 360 column.
ChanceFisher
OMG! Ponies!
Posted 7:32 AM 15/7/08
@Kanti_V2: You're forgetting the killer app that XBox has that Sony doesn't:
XBox Live.
The only argument against it is that it costs money. And the counterargument is that XBox Live is well worth the <$1 a week that it costs.
Home is vaporware.
As to "bribing", what do you call the financing deal that Sony gave to Square which was responsible for the exclusives? In the business world, they're not called bribes. They're called exclusive contracts. Apple did not "bribe" AT&T; Warner did not "bribe" DC Comics.
As to Gran Turismo, I say Project Gotham 3. And Project Gotham 4. And both are more than equal to Gran Turismo 5: Prologue (a.k.a. - half of a game that costs $40)
As to XBox and RPGs: There were a couple of RPGs on the original XBox. Maybe you've heard of them. Knights of the Old Republic and Knights of the Old Republic 2. They sold XBoxes.
As to dumbing down Final Fantasy: It's Final Fantasy. Androgenous male character with fancy hair and a giant sword runs around getting into a turn-based battle every 3 minutes with a mage, a healer, a thief, and a power character as backup. There are chocobos. Did I sum it up accurately?
OMG! Ponies!
oo0cyst0oo
Posted 7:24 AM 15/7/08
Do we need another FF? I can't (refuse to) believe that in 10 years, we'll be playing FFXX and GTA 9. God! Someone out there has to have some imagination.
"Do you know what the market needs more of? Plastic instruments!"
"That's why we hired this guy."
I like those games, but they are using the Adam Sandler technique. Take 5 buckets and fill it with scraps of paper with words like ninja, golf, and cajun on them and finance it.
If someone could get money to make games that isn't Square or EA, we'd be having a different conversation now, I hope.
oo0cyst0oo
kydrice
Posted 7:20 AM 15/7/08
versus is still PS3 exclusive so I guess that is a plus side. SE better announce an excuslive FF7 remake or sequel deal tomorrow!!
kydrice
berribrand
Posted 7:17 AM 15/7/08
@berribrand: Valkyria Chronicles, LBP, and Buzz Quiz TV look neat too. More stuff to "look forward" too hee hee.
berribrand
genopixel
Posted 8:18 AM 15/7/08
how funny. I was just about to buy PS3 BECAUSE of FF13 but I guess I dont have to now! =D yey, money saved
genopixel
gregsapphire
Posted 8:16 AM 15/7/08
yeah that is mostly true, b/c the staff is going to be split and you will get a game not as good as it could have been or a great game that we will have to wait for another 3 years for. hopefully in this case it will be different. "hopefully" why did square enix have to do this. well it seem it is all about the money and not the fan or game. maybe with the extra sales they are going to have they can hire a hell of a lot more staff to work on the game. god i hope microsoft didn't destroy a good franchise with the need of pounding sony into the ground. sony only has Gran Turismo 5 and Killzone 2. they better have a plan B and a plan C or they are going to lose. @violentsingalong:
gregsapphire
robinandtami
Posted 8:02 AM 15/7/08
@ChanceFisher: I agree with everything you just said, and I also disagree with the previous commenter who said a 360 version will cause delays. On multi-platform releases, it is almost always the PS3 version that causes delays. See GTA IV. Alone in the Dark? They are going to release the 360 version on time and just delay the PS3 version. C&C3? They just decided to shitcan the PS3 version.
robinandtami
Lestat
Posted 8:28 AM 15/7/08
@oo0cyst0oo: You don't sound like much of an RPG fan. I've been playing FF since it's release for Nintendo, and I will never give up on it. I've liked the stories, the game play, and the characters. There really is no reason to end a franchise that is the best RPG made.
Lestat
JEmlay
Posted 8:27 AM 15/7/08
This will be interesting. This will finally settle all the "wars" about PS3 exclusives only being exclusive for the BD drive even though they waste space like crazy for faster read times.
A good solid comparison between the 1 BD FF13 disc versus the 5 DVD FF13 discs will finally give us the real story!
JEmlay
Rabid Penguin
Posted 9:18 AM 15/7/08
@OMG! Ponies!: You've never played a Final Fantasy game before have you??? The random turn-based battles happen A LOT more frequently than 3 minutes apart. haha.
As much as I love Final Fantasy (and I mean love... I own three boxed copies of FF1 for NES and every other FF game ever released with multiples of some) you're pretty close lol. But a "dumbed down" explanation, such as yours, can be given for any game. But not ever game has Chocobos... +1 for Final Fantasy :c)
Rabid Penguin
Kanti_V2
Posted 9:04 AM 15/7/08
@robinandtami: And you know that all those games were developed on the 360, and then ported, right? So of course there would be delays, especially with a then new system. Except with GTAIV, which was delayed for the 360 according the dev team. It's never been disputed that the 360 is easier to code for, it's just a dumbed down PC, and the PS3 was an after thought in most early multi-platforms, but with FFXIII, it was the lead system, and the game was more than half done, now instead of focusing resources on one system they're going to split it, and have to bring up another version from almost scratch.
So obviously it's the 360 causing this delay, I don't see how that's even disputable.
Kanti_V2
DJTripleRRR
Posted 8:59 AM 15/7/08
@OMG! Ponies!: Ehem, interesting but just because you don't have the patience to truly enjoy the Final Fantasy franchise for it's story telling attributes give you no right to slam the game. Basically if your looking for a quick thrill stick to FPS if your want a great story telling and emotion and games that take much time but give you such a great sense of achievement on completion then you should in MANY ways enjoy the Final Fantasy series.
Sorry for double post
DJTripleRRR
Kanti_V2
Posted 8:55 AM 15/7/08
@OMG! Ponies!: I meant dumb down the technical aspects of the game, not the story (which is meant for 14 year old Japanese kids), clearly I should have dumbed down my post.
And Live is crap, you need to deal with this. If paying a monthly fee to use a crappy slow interface to hang out with homophobic 13 year olds is your idea of a "killer app", then you are a true 360 fanboy. I'm not that big a fan of Home, but I'll take it over Live (especially since my PS3 still WORKS), and if it's vaporware, why am I playing/using it now? If it wasn't for the Marketplace, I wouldn't even bother having my 360 online at all.
And you do know that Gran Turismo 5 Prologue is a DEMO, right? Yes, they annoyingly charge you for it but so does Live, forcing you to join the ranks of the other tools who bought a Gold membership, just to get a stupid demo. At least with Gran Turismo's demo you get more of a game than you do with project gotham, which was kind of crap.
And yes, I remember KotOR, it was a great PC game, just like all the good 360 games, it was WAY better on the PC. And it was on the original Xbox, so from a sales point of view, my argument stands.
Kanti_V2
DJTripleRRR
Posted 8:55 AM 15/7/08
@robinandtami: Ehem... According to Kotaku who had a interview with SE. It will first come out in Japan. Then and only then will they start the translation and developement gor X360. This is understandable as the game is built on a pc tool kit so it'd be a little of a shlep to get it onto X360, or perhaps even more if they have to dumb things down and tweak certain aspects.
Also about the dumbing down the game thing I doubt it'll be true and I'm thinking that with this game you'll see what the PS3 hardware is capable of when compared to X360 cause this game has long be in development for the PS3 and SE have said for a while that it's going to use the PS3 to it's full strength so we'll see if the X360 can keep up. I also think it'll be interesting because I think this game is at least going to take over 6 discs on the X360 due to the fact that they will have built it with the Blu-Ray's space in mind, I highly doubt they'd now start cutting details out both works due to size constraints on a market that will account for less that 10% of total sales (Guessing due to the fact that it sells loads more in Japan where it will be a PS3 exclusive and due to the fact that it'll sell equal or more for the PS3 in Western areas (More for the PS3 because it's the system it's been developed for in mind and I'm sure you'll find that the Hands-on reviews of the X360 version will show downfalls when compared with the PS3 version).
Also the PS3 has one big thing which I'm sure SE being a good quality company would have utilized to it's fullest which is the Cell, the X360 doesn't have this so the way it's going to process things is going to have to be different and will be a compromise in either frame skipping or game quality.
It'll be interesting to see how this all shakes out... I'm buying the PS3 version no doubt. Also I'm slightly pissed off that X360 got this now more because I realize the fact that it's going to be delayed even more because development for the X360 will hold the title back from English speaking countries. So we're going to hear how amazing the game is and see these beautiful spoiler videos pop up on youtube from Japan nearly a full year before it shows it's face in US and a year and a quarter before it makes it's way to Europe.
So you go MS! I personally have a grudge against you because you've greatly increased the time before I get to finally lay my hands on this game... Not within a year now but within 2-3 thanks.
DJTripleRRR
LittleJon
Posted 9:47 AM 15/7/08
@Kanti_V2: "It's never been disputed that the 360 is easier to code for, it's just a dumbed down PC..."
No it's not! The original Xbox certainly was, but the 360 has a 3-core PowerPC main processor. While it is more-PC like than the PS3 (what isn't?), you can hardly call it "just a dumbed down PC".
LittleJon
G for GRENADE
Posted 9:46 AM 15/7/08
Ahah! Sony's gnarled cock of corporate greed foiled again!*
*beaten by Micro$oft's 'G.C.O.C.G.'
G for GRENADE
mhlaxp
Posted 10:16 AM 15/7/08
No real big surprise here. Square is in trouble, financially, and they need to sell as much as they can. I wouldn't be surprised to see an eventual PC port, just for the sake of cash money.
mhlaxp
DelSource
Posted 10:24 AM 15/7/08
@OMG! Ponies!: No, Sony doesn't have X-Box Live. PS3 gamers are spared a slow, crappy service which costs them money every year and is populated by a million abusive teenage boys. And comparing the full PGR3/4 games to GT5 Prologue?!? Dude, WTF? Did you WANT to be ridiculed or what? You are such a fanboi it isn't funny. Arbitrarily choosing one PS3 game then naming five 360 games - can you say "strawman"?
Anyway, on the subject of FF13 coming to MS: if the best they can do is announce a port from the PS3 on top of Singstar, Eyetoy and Mii ripoffs then they must be getting desperate.
DelSource
CutePuppyz
Posted 12:18 PM 15/7/08
It's not unsurprising.
I predicted that large budgets for the 360& PS3 game development would lead to the loss of exclusivity.
Meanwhile, I hope the Wii matures into a platform that successfully marries various art styles with gameply. The Wii should become an artistic console.
CutePuppyz
DozeUser
Posted 12:09 PM 15/7/08
@Platypus Man: 10 wasn't bad i didn't like the progression of skills though. Also while i am responding to you, I was a little unimpressed with the real time battle system, but, and this is a big but, not enough for that to be a draw away from the game, it wasn't implemented extremely well but it has potential and i wouldn't mind at least seeing what they do with it I mean they have to listen to at least some feedback, why else would there be so many extensions of FFVII (god i hope there are no hardcore FF fanboys (or girls) reading this)
Alright so fanboys (if you are here) get ready to flame me for this, but final fantasy at least in my opinion started to go downhill after 6, i will never ever understand the hype that game gets, yes at the time it was groundbreaking, but when i am looking for a FF game to play it will always be 1 or 2 or well really any before 7. 12 also wasn't bad but it really could have benefited from a more strict class system, the customization was nice but i found that it kinda took something away from it, then again some people probably obviously have a different opinion.
DozeUser
liroku
Posted 1:25 PM 15/7/08
Such animosity over such trivial matters! Jeez...
I own a Wii and a 360. I anticipate owning a PS3 soon enough. Waiting for that price drop, ya know? I'm almost never on Live, but I like the marketplace and I'm lookin' forward to checking out the NetFlix thing. The Wii is a blast, and makes for an excellent "party" box. Wii + alcohol + college kids = fun evening. I'm looking forward to building a Blu-Ray library for my future PS3.
I don't get why people get so worked up about this sort of thing. It seems like a LOT of people who post here own at least two, if not all three of the latest generation consoles. The three all have their pros and cons. The Wii has a remarkable ability to draw in new players outside of the typical 18-30-year-old boy. The 360 has done well where games are concerned. At my job, we sell and rent more 360 titles than any other console. The PS3 won the high-def format war, and remains one of the best (and cheapest) Blu-Ray players on the market today. And it plays a few games, to boot!
The gaming market can easily support these heavyweights. It's kinda funny how the currents of the market can cause such dissent on these tiny, insignificant boards. How many hundreds of such boards exist on the internet? Think of all the people butting heads over what console rules and which drools. Think of all the low- to middle-income 18-30-year-old boys sitting at their keyboards, berating their nearly identical counterparts for making the same choice as thousands of other gamers. How many armchair CEOs, who, in reality, will have virtually no impact whatsoever on the life and times of Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo. People are gonna buy the consoles. You guys getting so angry about "fanboys..." Sheesh. We're all fanboys. Big deal. Video-gaming happens to be a hobby we all like. We're idiots.
liroku
xCruciaLx
Posted 4:39 PM 15/7/08
@OMG! Ponies!:
lol.
Comparing a full game(PGR) to a demo(GT5 Prologue).
That alone you have told us that your a fanboy w/o brains.
xCruciaLx
barkas
Posted 11:39 PM 15/7/08
yea .. even the kids have to play some FF13 ..
barkas
Vindicoth
Posted 12:57 AM 16/7/08
@OMG! Ponies!: I didnt' say god of war 3 shipped, I'm saying that god of war is a Sony Exclusive.
Vindicoth
Mr.SithNinja
Posted 2:15 AM 16/7/08
As a fan of the series, this sickens me. Anyway you look at it the quality of the game just got flushed down the toilet. Unless they plan to put out a 5 disc version on the 360, it is going to be completely disapointing content wise. I love my 360 but this game was supposed to really push the limits of the PS3 and show off what it can do, and now it has been neutered.
Great job Sony! You just lost at least a million console sales and handed MS a million console sales in Japan alone.
Mr.SithNinja
Silenthillnight
Posted 2:39 AM 16/7/08
@Mr.SithNinja:
From what I hear, FFXIII isn't being released in Japan for the 360, it's exclusive to the ps3 there. They're releasing it on 360 for the western countries. Plus they say development for the 360 won't begin until they start the localization process for us english speakers. So either way, game won't be out for another 10 years in the states, with the ps3 version probably dropping first and then the 360 one 10 years afterwards the way square works.
Silenthillnight
thrashanddestroy
Posted 4:24 AM 16/7/08
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. And might I add,"HA!"
For a couple years now, every self-important pompous PS3 fanboy jerkoff has been bragging about how 360 owners will never get to enjoy Final Fantasy on their console. As an owner of a 360 though a long-time Final Fantasy fan [and owner of a PSone and PS2] I can safely say that I don't care...I'll reserve my judgment until the game is out and I've given it a rental before a possible buy. I just can't commit to being excited over FF anymore.
Final Fantasy has a long line of disappointments for me and Enix has just been letting me down in general. I think I'm more excited for FFXIII Versus moreso than XIII itself, but we'll see...we'll see. The hype machine is usually working overtime on any FF release.
Now we just need MGS4 to be ported as well and the sour grapes/foot-eating/whining will be epic. EPIC!
thrashanddestroy
Lm2nlce
Posted 2:38 AM 16/7/08
This is great for Xbox owers, but now its going to ruin the game for everyone. Now the developers cant push the graphics to the limit because the game cant be different on either console so now the game will have to be down graded (LIKE GTA for Xbox) because Xbox payed out the ass to get it on there console. So now square enix is obligated to make it for both. So way to go microsoft for ruining a classic title for everyone. Its a fact for anyone that knows about computers, Xbox uses Dual Layer DVDs (8 Gigs) Sony use Blu Ray(up to 50 Gigs) . The same amount of graphical data and etc. will NEVER fit like it would on a blu ray . Now it all has to go according to this shitty Xbox hardware cause it came out so long ago. I mean xbox is a made with extremly cheap parts, just take it apart n look inside.There will never be a game on Xbox in 1080p cause of there Discs. Anyone who says xbox is better OVER a PS3 doesnt have good knowladge of hardware and computers. Rockstar was complaining about Xbox because it was hindering the development of GTA. So they had to basically down grade the game for xbox. The same thing has to happen. Now Final fantasy will prbably be in 720p on both consoles vs 1080p on just ps3 alone. This has to happen. Thanks to microsoft. Of course a development company isnt gonna say no to money, there gonna do it no matter what. So there forced to down grade.GOOD JOB MICROSOFT. And there is definitly no reson to say something like there goes one of PS3s big guns because Final Fantasy isnt coming out for almost 2 years. So there will be so many more games by then and xbox will probably be out of business because of all the returns.
Lm2nlce
shortythugsta
Posted 1:44 PM 15/7/08
this sucks! still how could square enix do this we bought the ps3 for nothing who with me 2 start a thread on the playstation network and complain
shortythugsta
shortythugsta
Posted 1:40 PM 15/7/08
i want to start a boycott im outraged
shortythugsta
Anti-Pacifist
Posted 1:30 PM 15/7/08
This is just like new years eve.
HAPPY FFXIII, MICROSOFTERS!!
Anti-Pacifist
shortythugsta
Posted 12:31 PM 15/7/08
i am very shocked at those ppl at sony y give final fantasy to the xbox 360 now i cant say anything to my freind they said the xbox 360 is better now i cant fight back i want to fucken beat thos bitches at square enix and sony y the fuck they have to give the xbox 360 final fantasy they just ruined sony cause the xbox 360 are getting a lot of good games so there was no fucking reason i should have bought a 600 dollar console if it was just goanna come out for the xbox 360 god i hate sony this is very disapointing
shortythugsta
darthbaron
Posted 8:49 PM 15/7/08
Final Fantasy 13 on the XBox 360 is not a bad thing, I think it's good for the PS3. I think the gamer base for the systems are different. I had a 360 and the only game I played on it was Gears of War, I did not care for anything else on it. I played my PS3 for all other games. Now we're talking about Final Fantasy, the biggest rpg export Japan has. XBox has never been big on RPGs, the player base for those types of games has always been on PS and I don't see that changing. I think sales on the two systems will show where the market is for RPGs--PS3.
I don't see anyone with a PS3 for gaming (versus blu-ray movies) not buying FF13. How many 360 owners, the ones who will not buy a PS3, will buy FF13? I guess we will see, hopefully this year. Microsoft had to put up a lot of money to make this happen, but I think it is good for the PS3.
darthbaron
Tomahawk214
Posted 1:24 PM 16/7/08
It's funny reading all the Sony fanboy comments screaming at Giz because they messed up.
Tomahawk214
JEmlay
Posted 2:01 AM 17/7/08
@Lm2nlce:
Where exactly do you get your information from? A major chunk of FF13 is DONE. The 360 version will be a completly different dev project. If anything, they will PORT the PS3 version to the 360 and any downgrades will happen at that time. The PS3 version will be unaffected.
JEmlay
DozeUser
Posted 4:41 AM 17/7/08
@DozeUser: I was soooo thankful when that ordeal (X-2) was over, and was relieved that i didn't put out the 20 or 30$ it would have cost me at the time
DozeUser
DozeUser
Posted 4:38 AM 17/7/08
@Rabid Penguin: Thanks for pointing that out at the risk of sounding offeneded (I assure you that I am not) I am aware of that rule, that is why instead of buying X-2 i borrowed it from a friend when i was really sick and had nothing better to do once, that game actually made me want to get up and do something else at a time when i normally didn't feel like moving the like 5 feet from my couch to my bed
DozeUser
DozeUser
Posted 4:35 AM 17/7/08
@Lm2nlce: Man you are really really angry over this, I mean put down the controller for 5 minutes and see the rest of life, don't get me wrong video games are great, but there has to be some sort of limit.
And really in the end you have a choice, if you don't like that microsoft has it, if you don't like that it will be slightly bastardized (woo worked that one into a sentence) for the sake of the Xbox, then don't buy it, this is the way it works man not all actions are done to please fanboys (well the FFVII sequels and all of the BS is but meh that is a rare exception) so what if it is in 780 instead of 1080, graphics and definition really aren't everything, I really really wish people would realise that, better graphics don't necessarily make better games, same with special effects in movies, it doesn't matter how good it looks if your story and characters are crap you have a crap game. I for one don't care about hardware, if Square-Enix gives me a good high quality story as they have been, with some great characters as they have been, then i shall be happy, the way it looks is secondary to all of that, it's like a nice added bonus
I apologise for the double post i kinda respond as i go.
DozeUser
Rabid Penguin
Posted 4:31 AM 17/7/08
@DozeUser: "...and while i am bashing previous games X-2 CRAP..."
The rule of thumb is any game in the normal, numbered, series will be an excellent role playing game (number 8 is debatable however), but if it's a spin-off (X-2) or non-numbered game (Mystic Quest) than anything goes - caveat emptor.
Rabid Penguin
DozeUser
Posted 4:26 AM 17/7/08
@darthbaron: I would, but that being said there is really nothing out for the PS3 that i really want to play that I can't get for the 360. Then again i am also no longer a hardcore gamer of any type anymore nor do i really get excited over game releases anymore, this has actually made me happy, 'cause i am a huge fan of final fantasy albeit they have made a few bad games (anything with FFVII attached to it the first was an OK game but seriously give it up there was and will be better ones (I hope i mean XII wasn't that bad) and while i am bashing previous games X-2 CRAP) and it is nice to know that i won't have to convince a friend or family member who owns a ps3 to allow me to take it for a few months (yes months can't play much anymore) so i can fully enjoy the game, so yes i would definitely buy this.
sorry my response strayed a little there.
DozeUser
DozeUser
Posted 5:11 AM 17/7/08
@Rabid Penguin: I dunno, i kinda stopped paying attention, I was fairly out of it, suffice it to say, the game is lame, and kinda repetitive after a while, it has the most moronic job system of any FF game (at the moment I am labelling Tactics as best but that is just me, and tactics probably could have had more classes) you fight the final boss which is like some doomsday weapon or something, and kinda looks or at least it did to me at the time like some sort of mechanical elephant, but anyways back you fight it in stages which i dunno doesn't really work for me. The premise of the game is moronic it's kinda like wow this guy looks like Tidus i am gonna find him leading you through a pointless series of events and a bunch of Dress Spheres (soooo stupid) to this Vegnagun thing (i think that was the name don't quote me on any of this i was sick and it was like 3 or 4 years ago now) and i don't even remember the ending it was so unimpressive, were i you i would just look up a plot summary, unless you are into scantly clad video game women, because really that seemed to be what the game was about honestly the rest of the stuff seemed thrown together and secondary to that.
Man just talking about that abomination makes me want to like crush a ps2 (I very nearly crushed my brother's when i played that game)
DozeUser
Rabid Penguin
Posted 5:03 AM 17/7/08
@DozeUser: I bought X2 when it first came out and have only played it for like 30 minutes lol... I should get back to it someday... or maybe you can just tell me everything that happens lol.
Rabid Penguin
DozeUser
Posted 5:27 AM 17/7/08
@DozeUser: In other words, awkward and disturbing
DozeUser
DozeUser
Posted 5:27 AM 17/7/08
@Rabid Penguin: The most accurate description of the whole experience i can give you is this. And i say this in all honesty.
Playing FF X-2 to me felt like i was playing an animated version of some asian game designer's wet dream.
DozeUser