@shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog: err, apple

shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog

@Chester_Copperpot: So Mac does Photography and Movies and Microsoft does robotics. Hard choice for Engineers?

shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog

Is so far as usability/capability there is no edge for either OS anymore, everything can be done just as easily (except writing to NTFS) on either system...

;) you're fun!

bpapa9013

@KRingg: Great points. Apple still has the edge though. Especially when Pixar owned by Jobs is a majority shareholder in Disney that runs ABC, ESPN Miramax, Touchstone, etc etc.

The Brooks institute of Photography, one of the premier photography schools in the country..,and an up and coming film school, uses exclusively Macs.

Chester_Copperpot

these are only security guards
cops wear green in china

bookmark

@Chester_Cockpot: but if you'd prefer to go about this the immature way...

Did-ya see what I did there?

Love,
B~

bpapa9013

@Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!: I use one of these to do all the computing in my audio suite:

johnnyabnormal

@Chester_Copperpot: Maxim is for knuckle-dragging troglodytes...

And as per KRingg mentioned (some details of which were already known to me); You good sir, can sit & spin! 8D

bpapa9013

Photoshop

Bodie1550

@atuck: on a fcuking GIANT low res screen it does. Dip$hit, the image is compressed thats all that means...

bpapa9013

@bpapa9013: Ha, you and I sound like a Mac/PC ad. Go play with your powerpoint presentations and when you want to watch a movie, look at awesomely photoshopped chicks in Maxim or listen to your favorite mp3, just think to yourself that most likely these things were done on Macs.

Chester_Copperpot

@atuck: There's pixelation around both the Apple logo and the XP logo. They're both real. It's not too hard to believe that the screen is using Windows to display things.

I remember one place had a giant monitor running and it BSOD'd so there was a HUGE monitor showing MS's failure.

ttech10

@charlie.evans: Wow, are they so cheap they can't put up pictures of Chinese people?

shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog

@KRingg: Doesn't Linux currently rule the movie industry right now? Industrial Light and Magic's Death Star render farm is run with Linux.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

@mumin: www.apple.com.cn/retail

Sorry, I stated this earlier, but since I can't edit my post, here it is again.

charlie.evans

That isn't cops, every store that's isnt a kiosk in size have those guards, like in McDonalds, but all they do there is to pick up gargabe n trays.

Stalhandske

Considering Apple has an app called Quartz Composer Visualizer — which is specfically designed for displaying motion graphics across multiple large displays — i really can't understand why they would use Windows for this.

Then again, they use Windows Mobile on the little handheld units they use to check people out remotely... get these people an iPhone Point-of-Sale app, and a card reader that plugs into the dock port! Sheesh.

macserv

@mumin: www.apple.com.cn/retail

That my friend is the apple retail store located in China!

charlie.evans

I am thoroughly offended by this image, and demand that Gizmodo remove it at once or I will report you to Mister Steve Jobs or Hu Jintao, depending on whom is most likely to have your entire staff locked up immediately.

Monty

Reminds me I saw a bluescreen on one of the screens that runs commercial-stuff at my grocery store today.

Made me smile a little ;)

Eruanno

its fake..and i bet those are all the same security guard

BrandenF

Oh Jesus christ flame-tards, look at the pixelation around the image. Does that happen in real life?

atuck

" either way, it's a very interesting photo even if it might be a fake"

No. If its real, its fucking hilarious (and interesting). If its fake, its not interesting at all, just crap photoshop and not worth a post.

Totorototoro

there is no such store in beijing!

mumin

@Chester_Copperpot: While Apple used to be the defecto OS for these things, they're losing that edge very quickly. Seems to me that Apple is trying so hard to remain dominate in the consumer world that they're losing pace in the art world.

Example: The USC Film School (the premier film school in the US) has recently abandoned all of its Mac stations and now edits in Windows/Avid exclusively.

Example: Many major motion pictures, such as The Matrix, are now initially cut using Adobe Premier Pro (in Windows) instead of Final Cut (in OSX). Of course, they all use an Avid rig for the final print.

KRingg

Well, it's natural.
All Apple computers now have PC hardware inside.
So naturally they use a more flexible and reliable software like XP or Vista.
After all, if their software was better, then they would be running it... right?

aec007

It will be a good ad for apple, if the display program crash. Instead of "iPod + iTune", it shows some xxxx.dll not found for a day or two.

Aleung

@rrogahn: Yes, and even worse, the ipod one looks tiled, lol.

shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog

@Chester_Copperpot: He said "get things done" not play with artsy-fartsy graphics or media files...

bpapa9013

@Crashproof: Yeah because photographers, people in the movie industry and music industry all use PC's.

Chester_Copperpot

Looks like XP is booting up, I'd say it's real. I have seen the iphone display booting up XP with XP.

wcnghj

@stlblufan - I'm pretty sure XP does dual monitor

Funny shot :)

rrogahn

@shorty63136: No! That is the secret/private Mac store that is only for senior members of the communist party.

The windows logo is their attempt to disguise it, I'm surprised that the photographer managed to get this photo out of China (even still they may be in a prison camp by now...)

bpapa9013

It looks like its a completely separate building. I suspect Apple was just renting ad space on an adjacent building's electronic sign and had no control over it's operation or construction.

jmckee

Microsoft == Apple's sign-bitch.

bobdobbs

I call BS. The WSJ shot shows two screens or at least a split screen, whereas the XP shot looks like one big screen. But....maybe.

stlblufan

Wait, this site says they do: [www.apple.com]

shorty63136

@weatherman:

Such an awesome burn on China. You win an internet good sir.

djfoxx64

When I was in the Apple store to buy an iPhone, I noticed that they use handheld computers running Windows CE to check people out.

skm

Apple.com/retail says they don't HAVE an Apple store in China!

shorty63136

@bdk185: And more realistic.

cloudnine

it would be better if it was a BSOD...

bdk185

Kinda like how they use those doo-hickeys for checkout at the Apple Store with the Windows Logo on them.

I'm sure Steve Balmer uses an iPhone. Even if he has to go to some secluded dark cave so no one will see him.

So using a competitors product = defeat, right? Even if you don't make a device/software that directly competes with yours?

justinpe

That's hilarious.

shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog

is it just me, or does it look as though that guy is picking his nose?

mattxcorePOP

It's China: it's not that the image is a fake, but the store itself that's a knock-off.

weatherman

Just more proof that Apple people have to use Windows to get things done...

Crashproof

OS X is not stable enough to run the display.

waterdrop

It might be XP running on Bootcamp!

conception

Well at least it wasn't Vista.

takashimiike 3G edition

@rrogahn: of course it does. i'm just saying, there is a noticeable physical split between the two screens in the WSJ shot, whereas the XP shot appears seamless.

stlblufan

fake.

e-friend

In todays world, it seems like you can't even buy anything without being automatically associated with a group of everyone else who has it. Then to make it even worse,we gotta argue about which one is better; Can't we all just get along?

+ Watch video

Joseph

@shamoononon has a hebetudinous dog: Unless you're talking about sound engineers.

Chester_Copperpot

Window's cannot even create a well functioning operating system let alone run a display... FAKE...

ziggieboi

@Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!: The render farms are typically linux/unix, but the animation/composite usually wouldn't be.

@Chester_Copperpot: Valid point, I'm just noting a shift away from what used to be an Apple dominated market. Multimedia and Mac aren't as synonymous of terms as they used to be.

KRingg

@92BuickLeSabre: Actually, I'm Mac'ed out :(--iPhone, Macbook Pro, G3, iPod Shuffle, iPod Mini :(. Getting an Apple TV :*(. But I have a Vista Virtual Machine--which I have no problems with!

Joseph

Actually this is very funny because it shows that Vista has been a huge failure... Every time Microsoft designs a new OS it builds it on the garbage of what has come before. XP is a capable OS, they should just go back to the drawing board and come out with XP2, XP3 etc. They basically try to out "Apple" Apple and it isn't what Microsoft is good at. They don't do slick beautiful products. Look at Zune... need I say more?

GilbertGriffin

@Joseph: i watched that video. i remember when it came out. desperate times. in a weird sense of reflection, we're worse off now than we were then. like we need to go around the world spreading our corrupt sense of democracy to people who may or may not even want our help.

but that's another story.

D.LYTE

I would say definitely real. The reflection off the glass on the opposite side of the plaza. Although easy to do in photoshop, it wouldnt be necessary to throw in it if was indeed fake.

This looks more like a screen saver went on vs the computer crashing. Either way, its probably a very specific application written for Windows not Mac to run the advertising screen. But still, who's to say the computer didnt loose power and is booting up again?

Aturayd

@Joseph: Spoken like a Windows user.

(Heeeeyyy-Oooooooh!)

92BuickLeSabre

Boy how the MS waterboys love to live in a world of delusion.
[rixstep.com]

Valid point, I'm just noting a shift away from what used to be an Apple dominated market. Multimedia and Mac aren't as synonymous of terms as they used to be.

@KRingg: I'm noting a shift back to Apple products...OSX is UNIX.

Squishbaby

[rixstep.com]

Boy how the MS waterboys love to live in a world of delusion.

Squishbaby

I bet that copy of xp is pirated.

dorkboy

The fire extinguishers are actually to prevent protesters from setting themselves on fire. There has been an issue with this happening at Tiananmen sqaure. I would assume that the government expected alot of press for the opening and new it would be a target.

dorkboy

lol apple, gtfo

Fused7

@atuck: aw i haven't heard the word flame-tard or anything close to it since the 3rd grade

mariathephan

Could it be a pirated version of XP?

Playstation

@Chester_Copperpot:
You're kidding right? Photoshop will only be 64-bit for Windows Vista when the new version comes out. Pixar just switched from AMD PC's to Intel PC's for their rendering. On top of that, you can do everything on a PC that you can do on a Mac and the industry isn't what it used to be where anyone doing graphic art had to be on a mac. It hasn't been like that in a while. Also, how well does autocad run on OSX? As for music, that's personal preference, since you can get very high end programs for both PC and Mac, and I know a lot of musicians that use PC for their editing, sampling, etc.

Darkest Daze

That Apple Store is REAL and is in China...here it is:
[www.apple.com.cn]

waterdrop

I agree it's probably just the sign software only comes in a Windows version. I still would have replaced the screen saver logo with a screen capture of the Windows Blue Screen of Death for when it comes on. Now that would be funny. That image isn't hard to replace either.

Hello_Newman

I'd find it funny if the board was run by PC's and that's just the screen saver popping up.

taciturnforsale

@Squishbaby: "OSX is UNIX"

Epic failure man! OSX is based heavily on FreeBSD, which is an open-source project out of UC Berkley. UNIX is a closed-source commercial product developed by Bell Labs. While Linux, FreeBSD, and UNIX are all of the same family, they are unique operating systems with entirely differentiated code bases.

Saying OSX is UNIX is utter BS, especially in the context of market share. Nice try though.

Linux != UNIX != FreeBSD != OSX

KRingg

I dont think those are the police. The cops in bejing wear this very particular brown uniform (think military).

actually if they were the cops and not security you might be a bit better off. want a little inside information from one of them or get passed those velvet ropes? slip em a few yuan...those guys can be corrupt as hell. If they are staff security though, aka private security...then it could nay impossible.

as for the picture itself...i'm not as blown away as you are giz. you go into the OSX, Linux, and MS world, and you will find plenty of examples in which each side uses the other sides products. They each have their strengths, and they each have their weakneses. So when doing something that would be easier done on the enemies platform...why not?

its like the old line goes...its just business.

jrghoull

Its a slap in the face to Microsoft that Apple is using XP for their sign.

Just another reminder that Vista SUCKS!

XP and OSX Rule!

CCNA1AB

I call fake. The Windows logo is not centered horizontally on the display, it's resting at the bottom.

rsquared

it's not really an apple display, it's adjacent...

i think apple rented it... like a billboard... billboards don;r run on osX, LOL...

smokeonit

@CCNA1AB: Wait, what? I think you have irony dyslexia.

Pope John Peeps II

WTF???? o.O

jpbraconi

Maybe it's Parallels?

michaelleung

Haha I love the first bunch of comments!

It looks like the XP reboot screen. But cropped. Often large screens aren't a standard resolution.

Actually this is just like those big iPhone displays from the original launch last year.

SonOfWatt

Those aren't cops. I live in Beijing and I can tell you that almost all security detail dresses like that.

RayZR

The handheld transaction processors the techs use in the Apple stores run Windows, too.

waterwizard

Some friends said that building with the ad screen is not part of the store.apple.cn, Apple just rent them for the grand opening, and it is very common here to use XP+PC to drive ad screens in china, the picture may just caught the PC when booting...
Apple should replace their PC with a Mac for free, to show some kindness to the neighbourhood, don't you think so? :-)

xiaofei

Heh, so the the mac is advertised on microsofts display, and you buy it on a windows computer.
whats next, actually selling a computer that can run windows?
HORSERADISH!

roflwaffles

It's MicroSoft's new anti-Apple advertising scheme! 300 million will be paid to thugs to deface Apple stores with the MS Vista logo.

Brau

windows > apple and i laughed for 5mins when i saw this.

mordecaidrake

I'd like to know something. Do professionals getting "real work" done on a "real OS" spend their time trolling message boards trying to build up their personal choice by tearing down someone else's?

Something tells me the answer is no.

Camperton

By the way, I find this picture hilarious.

Camperton

no matter what its always XP

(see? thats a good PR).

Amiash

Kinda Reminds Me Of This

punisher-prime

@justinpe: If they don't make a product that competes with yours, then by definition they are not competitors.

Navin R Johnson

@macserv: 1/10th the price?

asten77

Having spent a fair amount of time in beijing, I surmise that the fire extenguishers are on hand because damn near everyone smokes there, and most people tend to not pay much attention to where they wave the scalding hot tip. In a tightly packed line, people are bound to go up in flames!

asten77

lol.

Just goes to show yet again, no matter how hard Apple tries, it'll never escape our windows world.

I'm sure the LED screen is run with a PC even if the pic is fake. I'm also sure their PoS systems aren't running OSX either.

KLanD

@rsquared:
Because this is the screensaver at the login prompt, not the boot screen. The logo changes locations on the screen every few seconds.

Bluesk1d

@Chester_Copperpot:
Yeah because Macs have super special video cards and magical drivers that somehow make them better for "multimedia and graphics." Artist types are just too non-technical to realize a PC will do anything a Mac will do in this arena for less money since, now that Apple finally had to admit they lost the proprietary hardware war, the guts are identical. That's not to mention there are about 11tybillion more applications available for PC, many of which are for, you guessed it, multimedia and graphics.

Bluesk1d

@Chester_Copperpot:

That's funny... I work in the film industry, and do photography and I use windows... I have a friend who works at Nelvana who uses windows and I've got a buddy who worked at ILM, and you know what, he used linux. The only friend I've got who uses mac at work build robots.

MasterShazbot

@Hello_Newman: Haha you could replace the boot-up image with that, or download a fake screensaver called SysInternals BlueScreen directly from Mircosoft!

dfc849

That pict is FUNNY! I'm just chuckling! It could be fake, but who cares, cause it's funny!

maximz2005

@Chester_Copperpot: I too work in the tech industry. We use nearly exclusively PC. Photoshop is all done on PC, most video edits are done on PC (although we DO have 2 FCP workstations available). Our Flash, webcasting, audio streaming, rendering, hosting, hell everything is done on a PC here.

My boss bought a brand new Macbook pro about 3 months ago. He fell into all the hype and decided he wanted to switch. He sold it about 3 weeks later.

Same thing happened with the Iphone. He got caught up in all the hype, got his hands on one, tried it out, bought a blackberry.

KLanD

Hehe did it go to screen saver?

DJTripleRRR

They probably subcontracted the screen and were more interested in the solution than the technology. Maybe that will change now :)

twilight-arc

it is fake~ I have proof.

andru08

The big display is not part of the apple store. apple store is only the building with the big apple logo on the right hand of this photo. It also plays adidas, ONLY and many other ads.

bourne.z

My friend Dax Liu was at the event. He was the 63rd person out of over 6000 people. Apple was awesome and allowed gave people red wristbands with numbers on it so that people would not have to stay in line for hours.

He also said the pic of the windows XP screen is fake because the screen is actually controlled by a MacPro. He has pictures of the control room.

[www.elesson.com.cn]

andru08

My friend Dax Liu was there at the event, he was number 63 out of over 6000 people.
He told me that the display was controlled by a MacPro.

Apple was very nice and did not make people line up all day. They gave away numbered red wristbands. People were free to move about and do stuff.

Have a look at the pictures he took!

There's a boat load of them:

[www.elesson.com.cn]

andru08

For all of you haters out there...
This Apple store is totally legitimate , as a matter of fact this is the first one of TWO apple store being opened right here in Beijing by Apple! The second one being in the vicinity of Tian An Men square.

mnk086

I attended the 10 am opening on Saturday in Sanlitun. The screen is rather large but is flawed with the 3 different splits. Also, to note that they are not police, rather they are just security personal. They are more there to direct traffic rather then pose as a deterrent. With the new iLife in my hand and a Pink Nano for the girlfriend I left with my nice free merch - a t-shirt.

LionelAphareus

Actually, I was just at the store the other day, the store is only the two floors below the Apple logo. The building running XP for the display is another part of the mall. I'm guessing Apple must have rented the display space from the mall during the grand opening the other day.

kdiggle

The display most likely runs on Windows Embedded [www.microsoft.com]

Kyorisu