@evangelistc01: I would sell it a few days before the new one comes out. It is a little risky, but a lot of people on Ebay wont know anything about the new one until it is released, giving you a perfect opportunity, I was debating on doing the same with my 17" MBP :)

jonbaird77

Love my current Macbook. I hope it lasts me til I'm dead.

Karinabob

@evangelistc01: Reformatting the hard drive and including free stickers of course.

evangelistc01

@jonbaird77: I'm just gonna buy a 13 inch macbook now I guess, and when the new ones come out, I'll back up all my info, sell it on ebay, and buy a new one if they're anywhere near as awesome as the claims.

evangelistc01

@jonbaird77: They usually only have 2 options for each ipod out at a time, and when theres 3 it usually means the weakest is about to be obliterated, not replacing it immediately. Since the 32gb just came out in april anyway, I wouldn't count on a 64gb soon; especially not till Flash memory goes down in price again.

@Glaiel-Gamer: that was entirely because of the new iphone data plan, which was widely advertised as costing you MORE than the old plan, thus bursting the bubbles of hopeful adopters. I'd expect your MBP to sell for whatever it's worth now on ebay, minus perhaps a little bit of dough.

michaelwiggins

@evangelistc01: September 15th, the rebates have to be in by October 15th. New MB/MBP on September 16th :P

jonbaird77

I hate you Apple. I have to put bday gifts on hold for the end of August. Sigh.

SigmundTheSeaMonster

Not surprised. They always update their iPods and Macs in the fall. Always!

So, the bigger story would be if they did NOT warn the retailers.

DW

Well, I can buy a macbook now, or I can wait. College starts Mid August though :'(

What day does the school promotion end, October 15th?

evangelistc01

@jonbaird77: Apple plans that. They have been doing that every year and thats how they clean out their inventory.

Joseph

hmm if this makes recent MBPs go for more on ebay like they did with the iphones then it might make sense to upgrade.... otherwise.... screw you apple I just bought this MBP.

Glaiel-Gamer

I'm still rocking my 12 inch Powerbook G4, and it still rules your face. I love Apple, but they're expensive.

That said, I'm getting an iPhone soon. WOOOOO!!!

wakeupbomb

@waza: A 32GB iPod seems like the perfect size for me (I have a 16GB touch). Depending on the price drop of the 32GB touch (assuming the 8 goes away, and the 64 comes in), I may just upgrade.

jonbaird77

ipod touch 64gb ?? thats all i want to see for now, i will mean that the iphone 32gb is just around the corner too (for x-mas, i hope so)

waza

@dead_red_eyes: Yes, from our Penryn MBP review months ago.

matt buchanan

@MichaelScrip: They've gotta order them though, they don't just appear magically.

matt buchanan

> "Apple has "strongly suggested" to its retail channel partners to stock up..."

And where do Apple's "retail channel partners" get their stock from? From Apple!

If stores get their products from Apple, isn't it up to Apple to deliver more MacBooks and MBP? Or by "stock up" they mean that stores need to slow down on how many they sell, to stretch out the supply?

MichaelScrip

I need 2 notebooks and an iPhone along with a Nano this fall. So please let it be good! I'm not biting until a 32gb iPhone though.

Noobs-R-Us

@Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!: ctrl+space = ftw

jonbaird77

@jonbaird77:

It was probably a review model that Apple had sent to the Giz.

I'm still trucking along with my 2.16Ghz Core 2 Duo MBP. I'm itching to see what they have in store in the next upcoming months.

dead_red_eyes

@jonbaird77: Yeah I mean, who even keeps the Dashboard icon in the dock anymore when you can just press a button?

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

Show me the money!

Noobs-R-Us

Awwww yeah, I know what I'm buying myself for Christmas.

Chester_Copperpot

Oh, and whos MBP is this? Honestly, this has to be the first time I have ever seen a customer shot of a MBP with the "standard dock" (same icons, same order, etc.)

Usually those docks get obliterated within the first few days :)

jonbaird77

Oh no you don't. I'm gonna see how long I can make this Macbook last. My days as early adopter/upgrade whore are over.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

Bought my MBP in June...crap

Would have waited, but college starts early September

jonbaird77

I just bought my mbp a few months ago and well damn

What new ipod could they come out with? they've already simplified the damn ipod touch in design.

I am sticking to it iPod Think
Just think it and it does it

Carmen Sucks

mmm multitouch...

atuck

@Jon!: Oh, and I mean that with nothing but sincere respect.

KBeat

@jonbaird77: LOL, now that's a very Mac geek thing to notice. You're right, that's a virgin dock!

KBeat

@evangelistc01: Free stickers are a must :D

jonbaird77

My 12" Powerbook G4 is rolling up on 4 years now and I'm thinking upgrade. The old girl's starting to get a little long in the tooth.

PollockRoc

@MichaelScrip:

It means that they want the stores to stock up more than they are used to, because they will probably stop manufacturing the models and until the new ones are up and running Apple doesn't want the consumers to be left with nothing.

pimas23

MacBook Touch, here we go!

pimas23

Here's my Apple buying strategy:

If you need a computer and feel like buying a Mac, buy one now. Don't wait for what you hope will come out. Apple is always up-ing processors and RAM and the chances are, you're not a power-user anyway. Whatever MacBook is out there is just fine for browsing the internet, running iTunes, and checking email.

If you don't need a computer right now and want a Mac, wait until after the next big conference. You'll get slightly more bang for the buck.

Never buy the AppleCare warranty. It's $300 and any repair you need will be quoted at around $200. If it's really that bad, I have strategies for getting repair fees waived.

Don't buy new RAM or a hard drive at the store. You can put it in yourself for cheaper. You're not going to fill up your hard drive on the first week. Six months from now, you'll get more storage for less money. Learning to replace stuff in your computer is fun and easy. Spend the 15 minutes to do it yourself.

OMG! Ponies!

@Carmen Sucks: They probably wont be coming out with a successor to the iPod Touch, just one that has more storage. If they do add any cosmetic features though, that would be sweet :D

iPod Splinter, inject it into your finger, slide another finger over that finger, holo menu pops up

ahhh that would make for funny Youtube videos of people walking into walls

jonbaird77

@googlesmith: And yes i'll be waiting for the updated macbook (touch/air/normal) even though university starts on the 4th of august, just don't want to buy something old that's supposed to last 2-3 years.

googlesmith

so. the iPod touch is pretty much an iPhone without the phone, so the new iPod touch will have assisted gps and longer battery life!!!

googlesmith

@NeoXY: Here's the trick:

Explain to Apple how your local small claims court works. For example, in NY, it costs about $50 to start a small claims case. Apple, being a corporation, must appear through counsel. That means legal fees. Opening a case is about three billed hours. Even at $100/hour for a cheap account, just getting the complaint and putting it in the system will run $300.

Then there's the Answer and the Combined Demands. Defense work is a business with slim margins nowadays and you can bet that the firm is bilking Apple by padding the timesheet. Call it another three hours. $600 in legal fees.

Then the conference. We're up to $900 and you haven't done anything but started the case. Nothing has even happened. No discovery. No nothing. Just a conference and the bill is $900.

Explain that you have no problem in letting Apple rack up that kind of bill. Then explain that you're certain that a half-dozen people who have nothing better to do than sit on a jury might feel that a $2500 computer should last more than two years.

When they ask if you'll hold, say "yes". I have never paid a repair fee on any electronic equipment.

OMG! Ponies!

@jonbaird77: I don't know if I'll save more because this weekend is the North Carolina Tax Free weekend, or if I should wait until the price drop. I'm planning on picking up a book this Friday, since college classes will start full steam on the 18th.

Decisions decisions.

Oh, and my strategy:

DON'T BUY MICROSOFT OFFICE FOR MAC.

evangelistc01

Boo. Just get the new HP touch thingy. It's totally sweet.

GeekyNerdGuy

@PollockRoc: Titanium 867 MHz G4 here. I have you all beat...with my crappy old powerbook. And I refinanced my car to get it. Man, do I need a new computer.

Player4

@OMG! Ponies!:

Tell it to my MBP that just got a new heart (logic board). Don't buy AppleCare. Year right. Like i was gonna get sticked with the 1300 and change bill...

NeoXY

Heres my strategy:

Mac Mini: No reason you should buy it, last update was forever ago and the price hasn't discounted (aka: you are paying too much for old technology)

Macbook: If you must have one before college, go ahead and get one, if you think you can survive a few weeks w/o one, the wait will be worth it. PRICE DROPS ARE ALSO RUMORED

Macbook Pro: Just like the Macbook, don't get one if you can survive a few weeks w/o it. I bought mine in June, it sucks a little but I'm not complaining because mine is still amazing. NEW PRODUCT + BETTER TECHNOLOGY + LOWER PRICE = GOOD REASON TO WAIT

iMac: Get one, nothing special happening with it right now. Also get one in place of a Macbook Pro if you DO NOT need the portability, you get so much more for so much less $$$ (and the 24" can really game)

Macbook Air: Dont get one, ever :) (atleast not until it gets more ports and better specs)...its a gimmick as of now

AppleCare Warranty: I would recommend it, $300 (or less of you are a student) for protecting your $3000 investment for 3 years sounds like a good idea to me

RAM installation: If you can install it yourself, do it, you will save yourself about 50% in cost. If you are too busy to do it, if you think it is too risky, or if you trust 'apple-branded' RAM more (yes, I know its not really 'Apple' ram) so ahead and order the Mac with the extra RAM.

Same goes with the harddrive, although the harddrive is a little more difficult to replace than the RAM.

jonbaird77

They disn't allow to use the student free ipod promotion on the new ipod nano last year, so probably this year is the same.

I hope they make the touch screen smaller 2.8"-3" would be decent & easier to pocket.

endless_x

Seriously, I was gonna get me an ipod Touch tomorrow...and really looking forward to it. Ah, the agony

POweЯ-a tribute

867 MHz G4 Powerbook right here. 640 MB RAM, maxed out when I got it. Coming up on 5 years in september. This came with 10.2 on it, i'm still running 10.3.9 at this point. I can't wait to get a new computer!
Just bought a 16GB iPhone, I'm gonna be pissed if they upgrade that to 32GB in the next few months...

norfizzle

@OMG! Ponies!: Lol I need to remember this.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

advice please on my situation:
NC Sales Tax Free Shopping is this weekend (savings of about 7.5%). Free 8 GB ipod touch w/Rebate. $100 credit on a printer.

Should I take advantage now, or hold off? the 7.5% savings isn't a must-have, but ever bit helps.

what do you think?

mrafternoon

@Theophilus P. Wildebeeste: make that a GB iPod Classic.

Theophilus P. Wildebeeste

I was thinking about asking my lovely wife for an iPod GB Classic for my birthday in August.

Oh Well, I guess a few weeks (or six) won't hurt.

Then in mid Oct, my AT&T contract will let me update.

iPhone here I come!!!!

Theophilus P. Wildebeeste

Hmmm idk if i buy a new ipod touch ill just have to pay 50 bucks later on for stuff that should have been included in the first place. Tough decision.

Jkuhn

Darn! I was just getting ready to retire my Lisa. Guess I can wait another month or so.

vastrightwing

christ endless_X, that is unreadable.

mrafternoon

160GB iPod Classic, darn my wireless keyboard with the status LEDs in the receiver, and my hunt and peck typing.

Theophilus P. Wildebeeste

@michaelwiggins: 32gb iPod Touch came out in January (I know, because I got mine for Valentine's Day.) That would leave appx 9 months in between storage upgrades, which seems to be about right for Apple.

I'd be keeping my 32gb one regardless; the storage is about right and with the 2.0 firmware it does just about everything I need it to do.

Now, if they came out with a 32gb iPhone, then I'd have to think about it. Not likely till next year though.

selianth

Correction: $26,788.95 if you choose 4x15000rpm 300GB Drives instead of 4x7200rpm 1TB drives.

rabiddachshund

I still find it funny that a fully tricked out mac pro costs $25,988.95.
Who the fuck needs 32GB of ram?

rabiddachshund

@rabiddachshund: They don't call it a Mac PRO for no reason. People in the TV/Movie/Music industry, no doubt. Pixar alone must have half the world's Mac Pros.

PlayerX

@evangelistc01: You should be able to use the education discount at any time, as long as you're a student.

Check with your school's computer store, though.

PlayerX

*mumbling to self* My one year old macbook is fine don't be an idiot and buy a new one, don't do it!!! */mumbling*

Unless Spore won't run on my current Macbook. :)

SgtToastie

I tell Apple apple to shove a dirty sock in it and stop being so damn cocky about every little piece of shit they release.

redrabbit

Add GPS on the iPod Touch and I'm in. Someone needs to work on turn-by-turn map applications for the iPhone/Touch. I don't care if it's Tom Tom, Apple or Google - give me directions without having to be online.

shaneschofield

Maybe the iPod nano is a shrinked Touch. It does make sense though...A little crop in screen size won't hurt much and it will be more convenient to take around.

...and sell another couple billion.

Anybody wonder what the next Shuffle might be like. I doubt Apple will use the circle key layouts again..Shuffle Touch!

ten10

well it looks like my wait to replace my stolen laptop continues

ColonelBlaha

@OMG! Ponies!:

You know, I never liked your commenting. I always find myself disagreeing with you in some form or another. Just tell me - why would a person not insure a $3000 purchase at just 10% of the cost? . . . I never had to shell out money for an AppleCare repair. I was never quoted $200 for anything. Stop speaking falsities.

Acemonster

@OMG! Ponies!:

WRONG. AppleCare was THE BEST purchase I ever made from Apple.

I had a lemon MPB 2.4 that overheated to the point where it warped the bottom casing - twice. After having it repaired for free (twice), one of the fans crapped out and the overheating started again.

Guess what - Apple sent me a brand new 2.5ghz penryn with upgraded HD, LED backlit screen and 256mb more video memory - FOR FREE. I tell you - Applecare techs where the most pleasing techs I have ever dealt with in my life (and I have dealt with many, having owned my own computer business myself).

Acemonster

@shaneschofield:

GPS wont work. Mobile gps units need to have some sort of software to communicate with a database of maps. Garmins, Magellans and the like all have built in memory and software to communicate with pre-installed maps that satellites use to plot a position against. Until a company makes such a software to run on the Touch or iPhone, it wont happen. And, while Google's software can interpret a location based on a saved map, its a map that is streamed from an 3g or wifi connection.

I have the same problem with my BB Curve. If only a company developed a software to communicate with maps saved on a mini-sd card, I'd be set with my SIRF Star III.

Acemonster

@Acemonster: I never said that I was quoted $200 for an AppleCare repair. I don't buy extended warranties. AppleCare is an extended warranty. Try reading what is written before you get angry next time.

I threaten litigation against manufacturers when their products fail. For example, when my XBox 360 died, even though I was outside of their 1 year warranty period. I explained to Microsoft that they had already issued a statement admitting that the defect was a manufacturing defect and that they don't want to take a verdict. They waived the repair fee.

When my MacBook's hard drive died three weeks after the one year warranty expired, I called for repair service, which they quoted me at $175. I explained to them that a jury in Brooklyn might think that a $1400 computer should last more than a year and that they don't want to take a verdict. They waived the repair fee.

As to your question: Why would a person not insure a $3000 purchase at just 10% of the cost?

Even if I had bought a $3000 Mac Pro, I would still not buy the AppleCare warranty. First of all, many credit cards confer their own warranty protection which, at the very least, doubles the initial period. AppleCare is a 3 year warranty. My credit card gives me an extra year on top of the first year. And I haven't paid anything extra.

Secondly, the "but my computer cost $3000 so I care all the more to insure it" argument holds no weight. I sue people for a living and I know juries in Brooklyn. Guess what - a jury in Brooklyn probably thinks that a $3000 computer should last more than 2 years. At least the chances are good enough that Apple does not want to risk it.

What's Apple going to do? Get up in open court and say under oath that it doesn't know how to build a computer that lasts more than 2 years? I don't think that Apple wants to do that.

The first rule of products liability: No manufacturer wants to take a verdict because if the jury rules that the product is defective, the manufacturer is estopped from re-litigating the point in future cases. Don't believe me? Ask Merck how much it enjoying taking an adverse verdict.

There is nothing immoral about threatening litigation. Companies threaten each other with litigation all the time when they feel that they are within their legal rights. It's not frivolous and threatening a lawsuit does not clog up the court system. Even Apple threatens people when it thinks it has been wronged - in the form of C&D letters. Apple has even sued individuals who, Apple believed, wronged Apple. Threatening litigation is a valid negotiation tactic.

And it has worked for me time and again. I don't by extended warranties - and that goes for AppleCare protection - and I have never paid for a repair to electronics.

And in case you missed what I said at the beginning, I'll say it again.

READ THE COMMENT BEFORE REPLYING TO IT OR ACCUSING THE INITIAL COMMENTER OF LYING

OMG! Ponies!

@Acemonster: Then you got taken for $300.

You state that you bought a "lemon" (your word, not mine) computer that overheated to the point that it warped the case. If it's hot enough to warp metal, it's hot enough to burn flesh. That sounds like a defectively designed and/or manufactured computer. And if I was Apple, I wouldn't want that kind of computer in the wild.

You paid $300 for an extended warranty meaning that you paid about $150 per repair that should have both been free in the first place.

Your case illustrates the point perfectly: Why should you pay extra to have a company fix its own defect? A computer that overheats without any modifications having been made to it should not be subject to a repair fee ever. The problem was caused by the designer and/or manufacturer, not by the consumer.

Further, your lemon presented a risk to Apple. The overheat adds a whole new claim to a potential case: failure to adequately warn.

Remember the guy who claimed that his MBP burned his genitals? Overheating computers make legal departments wonder how much warning to provide against using a laptop computer in one's lap. If you don't provide enough, a negligent failure to warn claim may lie. Further, given the prevalence of the term "laptop computer", can any warning be sufficient? The deck is stacked against a computer manufacturer on the warning claim.

In essence, Apple shelled out a little extra to keep you happy. There's nothing wrong with that either. It was a calculated business decision that kept you from doing things like posting about your "lemon" computer or, worse, suing.

OMG! Ponies!

@OMG! Ponies!: ::bows to you:

Ace just had his own ass handed to him..how does it feel to be humiliated?

Carmen Sucks

@OMG! Ponies!: I'd have to say that for some people it's worth the 300 dollars for the peace of mind and to know that they won't have to bitch out tech support for like an hour to get their notebook repaired for free. Not everyone's a lawyer, not everyone knows the intricacies of small claims courts just off the top of their head, and for anyone whose profession isn't litigation it would probably not be worth it to learn. I also imagine you do not hesitate to mention your profession in these tech support calls, and that it may have some sway on their decision to not tell you to go fuck yourself.

burningsensation

This sucks, I was planning on buying a MBP this weekend, Student Discount, Free iPod Touch, and in NC it is tax free weekend which saves me another ~$140...

Chris2812

@OMG! Ponies!: You are legally correct, and utterly joyless.

Gaytheist

if the new MBP look anything like the one reported by Giz earlier (Glass touchpad) then all apple fans are retarded. have fun looking at that lil touch screen for the rest of your days. might as well must make the main screen a touch monitor. thats an apple revolution, oh wait that's a tablet.

Glock19_11

Unless the entire MBP monitor is a touch screen what is the point of having a touchscreen "mouse" like Giz reported in another article? you'll spend all your time looking at a smaller screen then your monitor. just seems like a retarded idea to me. have fun paying 2000+ for the base model.

Glock19_11

First, I never implied that you were quoted prices for repairs. I was simply commenting on what you said about repair quotes. Read what I WROTE too.

Second ... Congratulations. I'm sure you enjoy your profession. I admit that I am merely a student of law and not a lawyer (yet). Regardless, while it is not immoral to threaten legal action at a company, throwing out the possibility that something can be done legally because a part failed outside of the warranty period classifies you as, in layman's terms, a DICK.

I agree that a computer of that price and caliber should last more than two years. But because a person neglects to buy the extended warranty (Perhaps Apple's way of telling consumers not to rely on a simple one year warranty), it does not mean he/she should threaten legal action to get what he/she wants because people believe equipment should last longer.

No. Ideally, companies like Apple, Western Digital and IBM should band together to set a higher industry for standard for equipment use. Realistically, organizations like the BBB, and other regulatory and consumer oversight committees should see to it that the consumer is protected (to some extent)on large-ticket purchases.

Further, your lemon presented a risk to Apple. The overheat adds a whole new claim to a potential case: failure to adequately warn.

Remember the guy who claimed that his MBP burned his genitals? Overheating computers make legal departments wonder how much warning to provide against using a laptop computer in one's lap. If you don't provide enough, a negligent failure to warn claim may lie. Further, given the prevalence of the term "laptop computer", can any warning be sufficient? The deck is stacked against a computer manufacturer on the warning claim.

Apple classifies their laptops as "notebooks," thus avoiding such confusion. Call Apple and any tech will say to you that it should not be used on the lap and that because it is classified as a notebook, it should be used on a desk or pad.

Acemonster

You guys know you can get MacBoook Pro Apple Care from authorized resellers over there for only $205 buy it now?

I was about to get it because I just bought a MBP on Ebay. When it arrived I noticed it had somebody elses user info on it. I emailed the guy and sure enough, it had been stolen from his house. Now I am dealing with the police instead of enjoying my new MBP. I guess I will have to wait for the new one to see if I want to get it or not. I may just want to stick with the current design. It is hard to beat this one. So simple and the keyboard is great.

thetunecatt