curb stomp that turd indeed! (how satisfying would THAT feel?!). hard to talk on the phone wif no teef

low_dirt

I used to work for the Bus line in Colorado and they tell the driver not to get involved. Policy is that they call the supervisor and have security come in. Although in reality it is sort of the drivers call. The guy who got me the job was also my sensei and he always had great stories from his days as a supervisor. I don't blame anyone for not helping guy could have had a gun, knife or been high on Angel Dust.

towlie420

If he had gotten away with the iPhone, he would have had to beat someone else up for the charger and accessories. It's a vicious cycle.

Valrik

@ps61318:
All Im saying is if you hide your shit, your more likely to avoid a beat down.

mr30gZune

@johnnyabnormal: You should really stop kicking your friends in the face.
Then again, your friends really need to stop trying to stab you.
Then again, a part of me always hoped something like this would happen on Friends.

92BuickLeSabre

Damit it's not cuz you have a kid that you cant call the cops.
There's something wrong in our world... And for once you can't blame Steve Jobs :P

IVPPITER

Bah, this is one of those viral videos, like that Wii Hula Hoop Girl. Apple's just trying to make it appear that people go crazy and beat the crap out of you for an Iphone, because that's...good....marketing....

......yeah, maybe Apple didn't think this through.

Islandkiwi

This just happened in my neighborhood in Philadelphia. Unfortunately the young man that was attacked died after the robbery. He was nabbed on his way home from his job at Starbucks in center city, apparently because the white earbuds, which the attacker went for and ended up shooting him and killing him for. The killer didn't take money or anything else, just the iphone/ipod.

juanperin

@Pope John Peeps II: No. I don't. At all.

@ps61318:
1) He totally set himself up to get stripped. I see it all the time...I mean, hear about it, especially given 1st 2).

2nd 2) He was clearly giving off "not tough enough" vibe, otherwise that l'il punk wouldn't have messed with him. I'm guessing the kid saw Coldplay on the touchscreen and he figured this would be a gimme. (Coldplay? Zuuuuune.)

3) No. She should have taken the stroller with her and the baby. Or taken the stroller and left the baby - he's less likely to steal the baby.

4) Which is exactly why his friends would have laughed at him.

5) Right? It's really cool!

92BuickLeSabre

they should implement a feature that allows you to overload the battery and set the phone ablaze remotely. That might stop people from trying to take it.

ornj

Couple of thoughts come to mind. One -- bite this kid? Uh, yeah, prolly can't get any diseases from a kid willing to beat up a total stranger on the bus for an iPhone. Two -- concealed carry is legal in Ohio, IIRC (I live here), however, virtually every business establishment on the planet (can't imagine COTA would be any different) have signage prohibiting weapons. Whether or not signage makes it illegal, I don't know (I know that certain establishments such as banks and bars it is actually a violation of statute). Third -- it's a phone. Given the choice of a potentially life-threatening situation and losing $600, I would chose the latter. Fourth -- I'm a pretty large person (6'2"; 235 lbs. less than 15% bodyfat) with martial arts training, and given the situation, I probably would have handed over my iPhone, mostly because there's no way of knowing if this kid has a gun. Last -- that same bit of wisdom (does the kid have a gun) applies to the by-standers.

It's very easy to sit back and say what folks should have done. In the moment, hopefully people think clearly enough to understand the potential risks.

Hodo

I was in Columbus a few weeks ago. I walked around North High Street for a few hours. I left the city thinking, what a shithole.

solartaco

The whole "people stand around while someone gets their ass kicked" shouldn't shock anyone. Most people avoid confrontation and are easily intimidated by violence. Bus drivers are the worse too:

I had a guy try and mug me while I was getting on a bus many years ago. Even though I kicked him in the face and broke his nose, the driver kept the door open like she was waiting for him to get in while I was yelling "Drive!! GOGOGO!!". Then she asked, "Is your friend getting on the bus?" This guy had a knife out too. Of course, nobody helped me out either..but at least I had the pleasure of grabbing the railings and downward kicking that guy out onto the pavement on his ass.

Bay Area people: 16th and Mission is a hotspot for snatch and grab when you are going for your wallet to get on the bus.

johnnyabnormal

Oh, Kershaw Knives. Great knifes...

halfro

More people need to be present to beat someone down when this happens. Pipe to the back of the head = deterrent. God, this world ...

MastaFalse

@mr30gZune: Way to blame the victim. Is your first response to girls who get assaulted "she was asking for it"?

Douche.

Pope John Peeps II

pull ur pants up buddy.

obbie

@mr30gZune: I say again, read the article. He kept his iPhone, and likely got the hoodie in the bargain.

ps61318

This is why my other favorite gadget is a blade. I ride public transit everyday and ride a bike pretty much everywhere. My iPhone and my blade are inches from each other... If they see the iPhone they see the blade.

halfro

@Carmen loves her NB: um... thank you?

ps61318

That's FD up.
I hope this is a lesson to all, if you know u cant fight or your not carrying a concealed, don't display off your expensive shit while using the public transport system.

mr30gZune

@cre8design and rfjason: Honestly, that's just going to create more work for the guys who have to clean the buses and the curbs. Seriously, they have enough work as it is.

92BuickLeSabre

Fuck you Columbus, Ohio. There's a city I'm never visiting.

Do you think if the person getting mugged was black, the other passengers might have helped out a little more?

Pope John Peeps II

@92BuickLeSabre: If I didn't know your postings better, I might think you were serious.

1) He had a hoodie-ectomie by the victim.
2) concur.
Other 2) See the article - he kept his iPhone. HE KEPT HIS iPHONE! He ran down a cephalopoid on foot. That's gotta be tough enough.
3) She coulda beat him with the stroller, I suppose.
4) Shoot, he can't spell iPhone; probably didn't read about the 3G.
5) Concur.

ps61318

all the crazies are from Ohio

Carmen loves her NB

That kid needs to get &@!*ing curb stomped.

rfjason

F*&K THAT!!!!!!!!!!! That piece of shit needs the living crap kicked out of him, literally.

cre8design

sad.

Turing_Machine

yeah. see? people get mugged for iPhones.

i did too.
but i don't have a nice video to share on the internets.

but still.

Hey steve?
John Mayer here..
where's MY coupon for a free 35 iPhone?

ihatethekids

@Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!: You fail to see the problem? How about the increased possibility that ANYONE in the situation could end up dead, not just the assailant. The guy getting jumped was lucky he didn't have a gun, because the chances were just as good that the kid would have grabbed it when he jumped him, and either shot him, or someone else if they struggled over it. Gun fights don't go down like they do in the movies, or in NRA members wet dreams.

Better to just learn how to fight, or run. Unless you're Chuck Norris, no ones round-house ever went off accidentally and killed your only child.

Kanti_V2

@Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!: "I do not agree with what you say, but will defend to your death your right to say it."

what? that's not quite the quote? Oh, I see.

Yes, "defend to the death" - yes, that's very different.

...and I understand your sentiment, but it's a phone. Death is not an option, as far as I'm concerned.

ps61318

@Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!: I noticed that too :)

apeguero

I guess that teen felt disenfrachised on the unfair distribution of iPhones to THOSE WHO PAID FOR THEM!

phenderson

No kidding. I just don't get this at all.

1) WTF did the kid have to take off his hoodie? Did he work up a sweat that fast? Did he think this fight was shirts v. skins? Rule one of stealing sh** on the bus - keep your hoodie on.

2) Why isn't he wearing a t-shirt? You're going to rub your nipples raw wearing a hoodie with no t-shirt. It's just not smart.

2) Hey kid on the ground, who goes around with an iPhone if you're not tough enough to protect your sh**? This is why they make the Zune.

3) Lady with the baby, why are you leaving the stroller up there by Mr. Skins? Can't you see he wants to steal something? You leave your stroller unattended like that, it's going to get stolen.

4) Oh, and Mr. Skins. Steal smart. July 11th you're just gonna have to do this all over again. Why go through all the trouble now for a product that is only going to be outdated. Seriously. Your friends are just going to laugh at you.

5) When did closed circuit television start employing a sepia filter effect? I kind of like it and hope others follow this lead.

92BuickLeSabre

@N@tedog: he did a good job, but twiggy there trying to steal the phone is wearing andre the giants clothes

jmurph05

That other person looks like an older woman. I don't think I can blame her. What about the Bus Driver? These drivers need to pass some sort of security training or something. This is sad.

apeguero

Wearing your pants low like that triggers a genetic mutation causing you to forget everything your sweet old grandma taught you about being a civilized human being.

ryanoscerous

I'm so glad I'm 6'5" 215lbs. I'd stomp on this twerp. I dig the victims attempt at the hockey jersey pull and pound.

N@tedog

If any of my people's pulls a stunt like that, he or she better hope i don't see them on TV cause they will be sitting in jail real quick. These things happen all the time in my Area & people see it & do nothing, i guess they must know who to do it to though, cause if i have 2 balls just like you there's no way in hell i'll give you me shiet

snitch29

@Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!: Whoa. Time warp. I comment after you, but it comes before yours! Trippy

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

@Joseph: Well of course not, i don't know many thieves that read Giz, unless they want to keep up on which phones to steal and not steal...

jmurph05

@jmurph05: I'm just saying, you never know. I'm not a petty thief so I don't know what goes through their mind.

Joseph

What a piece of shit.

Hope they nab his sorry ass.

Captain_Collide

@Captain_Collide: I'm hoping for something much simpler.

He gets hit by a car and dies.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

@jmurph05: I was thinking the same thing. If someone's resorting to fisticuffs on the bus, then I'm going to assume that this is all they have. I'd rather take a chance beating the shit out of the bad guy than submit to some arm-flailing shithead

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

Hopefully they'll get the kid and he'll find a new meaning for jailbroken.

mcdj

@afreemaniii: the victim managed to pull down the dude's pants with his leg and then yank his shirt off like a hockey fight-I hope that little no clothes f***er gets his.

Mathray

Just give up the phone dude. It's just a phone. Hmmm...Just give up the iPhone dude. It's just an iPhone. Doesn't really work if I say it like that huh?

antidayjob

I would have murdalized me a hooded teen. No one touches my iPhone.

This is my iPhone. There are many like it but this one is mine. My iPhone is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my iPhone is useless. Without my iPhone I am useless.

Abe.Froman

@justinpe: iPhone lowjack? they already have it for laptops. wouldn't hurt to look into

jmurph05

People suck. Makes Corgi sad.

EBone

I wonder if the new iPhone (or any GPS enabled phone) would allow for you to track down your phone if it is lost or stolen? I suppose there will be work-arounds like the Loopt app, but it would be nice if this were possible through dedicated means.

justinpe

@Joseph: just thought of this, if he had a gun, why wouldn't he use it to persuade the guy to give him the iPhone? unless criminals are that dumb now adays...

jmurph05

@ps61318: If the likelihood that the assailant winds up dead increases, then I fail to see the problem.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

Aaah, the COTA! I'm originally from Columbus, OH and remember quite a few assults on the bus system.

The thing is, I thought the "Mug Me White" moniker for the Apple headphones was becoming a thing of the past.

Keirmeister

God this disgusts me. My stomach is in physical knots watching this...

Sometimes I feel that anybody that could act this way towards their fellow man should just have their kneecaps blown out...

Chromeo

I wish that passenger had gouged the thief's eyes out. Scum.

dry-roasted-peanuts

The bus driver should have gotten up to speed and then jammed on the brakes to send this punk flying. (Instead of just doing nothing to help the situation.)

Mooby

@takashimiike 3G edition: Eh, maybe I'm just crazy then, or my 3.4 inch gerber is always in my pocket. Except when I travel, then I pack it.

jmurph05

@deadrobot: Agreed. I would've been pissed as all hell if it was me and the bus driver didn't even so much as stop the bus to announce he was calling the cops.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

@ninjagin: Four words: Already legal in Ohio.

Beyond that, I don't think I understand your point: that the assailant could have had a gun, so trying to stop him could have been fatal; or if the victim had a gun he could have defended himself? Either way, concealed carry simply increases the liklihood that someone winds up dead.

ps61318

Let this be a lesson to all of you who would commit violent crimes: Wear a god damned belt and clothing within 3 sizes of you.

thepeopleselbow

There is no way you are getting an iPhone out of the steel claw ninja deathgrip of a man who stood in line for hours and paid $400 for it.

steveyun

@Mooby:

D'oh! That's N@tedog = faster typist than Mooby.

I will beg for editing functionality once again.

Mooby

@qbrad:

I like that comment. I laugh everytime I see someone with boxer shorts showing walking the street.

mythicalcaesar

@jmurph05: They're probably thinking something like "Must not interfere! Snitches get stitches!"

takashimiike 3G edition

This is why everyone should be taught to bite like a fucking pit bull if someone is trying to snatch some shit away from you. Man, this sure sours me the hell up.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

@ninjagin: A-fucking-men.

Sean Robertson

What happens to our society where kids beat people up so they can listen to music on a phone. Wearing your pants like that makes you lame. People who take advantage of other through repugnant means like this usually get what's coming to them. Live by it, die by it.

thegadgeteer

I'm sure the people in the back were thinking they were getting punked. Ashton?

I would have murdalized me a hooded teen. No one touches my iPhone.

"This is my iPhone. There are many like it but this one is mine. My iPhone is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my iPhone is useless. Without my iPhone I am useless..."

Abe.Froman

@N@tedog:N@tedog>faster typist than Mooby.

Mooby

I think that we are all missing the real point here...

This is Apple's fault, right?

(Before a flamewar starts between fanboys of either side, it was only a joke. OK?)

Mooby

The bus driver should have been fired on the spot for not having done anything to stop the kid. Jesus Christ.

Sean Robertson

Screw the background extras...what about the bus driver?

deadrobot

Two words:
Concealed Carry

ninjagin

Thugs love touch screens! How quickly before some suburban moms group blames Apple and their savvy tech and design as the root of this problem?

N@tedog

I can't believe no one stepped in at all. I understand the lady with the kid, but what's the deal with the guy just sitting there? That's so horrible.

Karinabob

@Joseph: possibly... but a fast knife jab would beat the reaction time of a gun being drawn.

jmurph05

@jmurph05: What if he was strapped... you might run up and get blasted.

Joseph

That's unfortunate, I hope they find this guy.

I was told my friend's brother (he's seventeen) was taking a late night jog with his iPod earbuds in and while he was going past the forest a guy jumped out of the bushes and tried to jump him. What this guy didn't know is my friend's brother boxes and he turned around right away and punched him so hard in the mouth that his teeth were indented in his fist. He then took off. I don't think that guy's going to be jumping anybody else soon.

kylo4

@afreemaniii: Sorry, i commented too fast. That behaviour derives from prisons in the US. In prison, a "single" man would wear his pants like that to inform other prisoners that he's looking to become someone's bitch. Not an urban legend either, this is gospel from a prison social worker.
Love urban culture and how those downtrodden people really are striving to understand their history AND pull themselves from the muck. Nah, go on welfare, it's easier.

qbrad

He's all "Gimme tha phone bitch!"
That kid should have had his MBA with him to cut his skinny ass.

takashimiike 3G edition

"not that you can blame a woman with child for not stepping in"... but that other person? wtf?

jmurph05

What has happened to our society where even here in Columbus (still considered a nobody town next to Chicago or Cleveland) people don't help their fellow man? The story a while back about an older gentleman who was hit by a car and no one helped him until a passing cop noticed him reminds me of this. WTF America?

verazula

I love how no one in the background does shit. Just something to think about.

jmurph05

So that kid wears his pants like that cos he wants to be some prisoners bitch?

qbrad

stay classy, Columbus

WesR

Can anyone explain the pants around the knees thing to me? That would slow down his get away if he had actually snatched the iphone, right?

afreemaniii

How horrible.

MikeSWelch

Jesus... I live in Columbus, and used to ride COTA all the time. Glad I never took anything valuable with me. Love how the bus driver and passengers are so helpful to the guy getting the shit beat out of him.

brutalentropy

@Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!: "If the likelihood that the assailant winds up dead increases, then I fail to see the problem."

I'd call that survival of the fittest, but they don't believe in evolution in Ohio.

BTW, I live in Cincinnati, and even I think Columbus=Shithole

bpatten

@Carmen loves her NB: Wait, what? Oh, thank you, Carmen, but that wasn't my point. I am happy to be among the crazies here in Ohio (although not the "wearing stupid clothes-beating up strangers for material objects" variety of crazies - more the "spending far too much time posting on a gadget blog" variety of crazies).

My point was more that "NOT all the crazies are from Ohio."

Plenty to go around, blanketing the fifty-seven United States and the greater world!

ps61318

@neekap: It's no better in Dayton. I was better off walking to get places, and when I did, I wished I had a car instead.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

Hey I know who that is! its George W. Bush, he lives at 101 Washington DC, in a big white house, you cant miss it! The one thing I dont get is why he would want to be tied to At&t so badly, is that where he can find osama bin laden?

Sorry guys too much time spent at the wootoff

jsmjr816

@johnnyabnormal: Well, I'm one of those people thta avoids confrontation at all costs, but when I'm seeing a dude that didn't do anything to anyone suddenly get beaten the shit out of, I have a problem with that. Once his clothes all fell off (btw, why can't people afford clothing small enough for them?) it was obvious his only weapon was his fists, so I think I woulda kicked him in the balls. What a fucking asshole douchebag. I hope he's the bitch to many an inmate.

Karinabob

@johnnyabnormal: doesn't surprise me, 16th & mission is sketchy x 10. BTW Skylark is a great place to get shot. Bravo on the face kick, I wish I had seen that one.

geedots

@Pope John Peeps II: Oh, no, please visit Columbus. Just make sure you rent a car because the bus system is a complete joke around here. Can't get you where you want to go, let alone where you need to go.

neekap

@ryanoscerous:
Agreed, I was going to type some thing long and contrived, but you summed it up better than I could.

@Keirmeister:
I will that "Mug me White" was a thing of the past, but a guy who lived here in Philly for less than a month was killed over an iPod a few blocks away last week.

It's tragic as hell, but that's why "straightedge" is one of the fastest growing gangs in America right now. People are tired of inner-city crime that grows worse every year due to our silent consent for fear of retaliation.

I do not advocate gang violence but I do support strength in numbers and self defense.

genehuntlover

these hoody yob kids are like cancer cells of the society
his mum should had the abortion

bookmark

I guess this kid never heard of Bernard Goetz. [en.wikipedia.org]

phenderson

O ya... that's Obama's nephew.

Looks like we are still scared of African Americans. Times have NOT changed.

SCAR08

@92BuickLeSabre: ...and I like the juxtaposition of "curb stomp that turd" with "indeed!" I'm not sure who exactly that evokes. Gotta be maybe James Earl Jones or maybe Andre Braugher; maybe Sir Sean Connery...

"Moneypenny, what would you have me do? Curb stomp that turd, indeed!"

ps61318

wow black teens these dayss

pazhman

@ninjagin: No doubt...

Mr Torben

The question is whether AT&T would still charge you the early termination fee. Actually, that's not really a question.

bandit

People like that should be shot dead in the street. No mercy.

Nathan Drake

I'd like to see this guy attack Brian Lam for a iPhone on the bus:

johnnyabnormal

@johnnyabnormal:
Chandler: "Joey, I really think there would have been an easier way to decide who gets which room."
Joey: "Yeth. Probabthy."
*insert raucous applause and canned laughter*

92BuickLeSabre

@92BuickLeSabre: You missed that episode? It was AWESEM, dude. Only bad part: Joey didn't die.

And that shot it with a sepia filter. Very nice and artistic.

ps61318

@low_dirt: How satisfying would it feel to stomp on a turd?
You've never accidentally stepped in turd? I can honestly say it does not feel satisfying at all. It's more of an "ewwww what the...well, damn it" type thing.
Unless you're in to that kind of thing. Which is cool too. To each his own.

92BuickLeSabre

Dam look at the lady behind, she's like nothing is going on, this is why you should think twice before buying something in the streets or off ebay, someone might have lost there life cause of it.

snitch29

@92BuickLeSabre: I know, I know... It was just a knee-jerk reaction...*insert canned laughter*

johnnyabnormal

Chris Rock was right.

totoro

@ps61318: Well except you, obviously!

Carmen loves her NB

@Karinabob: All the clothes in the canteena at the VA are sized XXXL. I thought veterans would be the most svelte Americans, or among them. But clearly they're obese too.

qbrad

@Nathan Drake: I second that. Judge Dredd anyone?

ookees

@92BuickLeSabre: It looks like my prophecy is coming true.

Rabid Penguin

FYI, NRA nuts: In this case, you couldn't have done shit, other than threaten this kid. If you shot him, it wouldn't be self defense, and you'd very likely land yourself in jail.

ppiddy

That kid didn't try to jack that iPhone to check his email or stock portfolio.
He only had that much balls because he was high on crack, meth or other and desperate to fence it for a fix (or food for his children?).
He was oblivious to the possibilty of someone crazy like me putting him to sleep.
Maybe Columbus is empty of WTF! and full of apathy?

ANoel

@92BuickLeSabre:
"United States and the greater world!"
The greater world is not available, Dude.
(ie. Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba)
Just apply for citizenship - you might get lucky!
= )

ANoel

@duckballs:

I think Canda isn't a factor here. Why carry a gun if you're so utterly badass right?

Cats

I was robbed at gunpoint once. Not for an iPod, but for like 700 dollars belonging to the store I was closing up. I had to walk to the bank, and the guy was waiting outside the store. He asked me to give him the money, and I just laughed at him. Then he pulled out the gun and asked if I thought it was a joke. I told him I did think he was joking. At this point, he grabbed me and threw me up against a wall and had the gun ready. I still refused to give up the money. In the end, he just snatched it and ran.

Moral of story: kids with guns are pussies.

(Note: I am from Canada, so that might be a factor)

duckballs

I'm not afraid of blacks. However, I'm wary of people, irregardless of race, that continue to put themselves into the stereotypical situations. I mean, beating someone up for a phone so you can; you know, make 100 bucks at the nearest pawn shop or pass it off to a friend. Great way to treat fellow man.

What I find funny, is people would probably consider me racist because I'm unable to treat shitheads like this with any sort of respect or "equality" (what a useless word).

*insert comments about stereotyping*

Yeah, I do that too. At least there is a basis for it.

Cats

Black people are even less inclined to help other black people.

Ever heard of black on black crime? Which is almost all crime.

Sad and infuriating

resource

@Pope John Peeps II:
yea, if she's a dirty prostitute. why not.
look, my point is.

Know your surroundings and use common sense. Something that people seem to have less and less of today.

mr30gZune

@ps61318: Huh? What's already legal in Ohio? ... being a bash-you-in-the-head-and-steal-your-iPhone-douchebag? That explains why nobody did anything, I guess. The two words I used were specifically meant to be ambiguous, and you missed the third, fourth, and fifth possibilities, so let me hand them to you.

3) Someone else on the bus could have been carring a weapon of some kind, ideally a pistol because a pistol registers as a greater threat and does so at a greater distance.
4) Carrying a concealed weapon does not mean that the weapon has to be a gun -- taser, kubotan, pointy stick (pencil or pen) are all other possiblities. Dare I say fist?
5) How 'bout carrying one's iPhone in a concealed manner? How about not using those white earbuds?

Regardless, there's this assumption that if you carry a weapon -=any weapon=- that you're out to kill. This is a false premise. The threat of death, or even an increase in its likelihood, is a pretty good motivator for someone to change their behavior. The threat of a good ol' beating is just as good.

Whether you threaten with death or serious injury or a black eye, just threatening with your pissed-off presence is enough to change the dynamic of a violent situation. I'm 5'10'', 210, and I can pick up and throw most people my size.

Hypothetically, if I saw you beating some dude for an iPhone, and I get up and move at you with pissed-off purpose, you're going to acknowledge me and I'm going to force you to acknowledge me. This makes it a 2-on-1 situation and most people will run from that.

Ultimately, having the aggressor or the victim run away is the best outcome, and a 2-on-1 lets that happen. Besides, if you're the guy that comes to help the victim, the aggressor is already tired and the work will be easier. You can't be afraid of getting hurt, though. The victim wasn't, in this case.

ninjagin

Serves him right.
He cheaped out on the iPhone Taser Attachment.
Should be issue.

ANoel

If I was on the bus I'd be gouging this guys' eyes out before the second punch landed. People with no respect for others' personal property drive me mad.

robotleawesome

damn. a true iphone fan, he didnt give that shit up for anything. i wonder what the bus driver had to say after the dude left..."eh...got the shit beat out of you eh that must be a nice phone" sad how no one did nothing.

kabron

This is why I carry a concealed semi-automatic pistol wherever I go. Would love the chance to paint that train in his blood.

dna

If Gizmodo Commenters Ran The Criminal Justice System:

Crime: A single count of Attempted Robbery in the Third Degree (Class E Felony).

Sentence: Serial Rape; Retaliatory Brutality; Death; or
Serial Rape, Retaliatory Brutality, and Death.

How very civilized.

@bpatten: Actually that reading of survival of the fittest would apply if the assailee winds up dead as well.

@ps61318: Not 57; it's 60.
I think you forgot Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta again.

92BuickLeSabre

Someone successfully mugged me once. The second person that tried got a free ride in a blood soaked ambulance. This all happened for me living in Bklyn.  After a while you just learn to carry yourself in such a way that conveys the message that you are not to be fucked with.  I would also do whatever needed to help out someone else being attacked by some piece of shit like that kid. 

AbaDesomma

@ps61318: Someone starts wailing on me, I'm taking that as an attempt on my life. I don't give a shit why they are pounding on me, if I didn't start it, I sure as hell am going to finish it. I might not outright kill him but he's not going to be moving on his own power for a while. We actually had some moron make a statement like yours in the self defense class I used to teach. Talking about some one choking you, he actually said "Maybe he's only going to choke you until you pass out"! Fuck that! Someone has their hands around your throat, you have every right in the world to do what ever it takes to stop them. Dumb asses like this kid do these things because they know the sheeple will most likely not put up a fight. Society is going down the frigging toilet faster and faster and no one is doing a damn thing about it. "Oh, the government will protect me", "That's what the police are for", "That's not politically correct to fight back". Chick should have handed her kid to the old lady sitting beside her and started beating the perp with the freaking stroller. The bus driver could have hit the breaks and kicked him off the bus after he bounced off the windshield. Did anything happen? No they watched him beat the shit out of a dude, then watched him walk off the damn bus.

Barry99705

@Xerloq: So what you're saying is that the guy on the ground did the correct thing by stealing the hoodie?

92BuickLeSabre

@ps61318: Attacking others increasing the likelyhood of somebody ending up dead.

Locke's famous quote was altered in the Declaration of Independence, but the principle is the same. We have a right to defend our property. True, the right to life supersedes that of property (or happiness if you want to take the Declaration's version) in Locke's mind, but you lose that right, along with the right to liberty, when you seek to violate the rights of others.

Xerloq

@ppiddy: And that's a good thing? You type that as if to laugh at someone who carries a gun, when it's the law that's fucked up. If he had shot him while getting beat, yes it would be self defense. If he pulled the gun out and aimed it at him before the beating, and the kid walked away, but he still shot that would be punishable. Doesn't mean the kid doesn't deserve a bullet in the leg as reminder not to steal other people's stuff just because the entire world tells kids they deserve everything handed to them nowadays.

I_Hate_This_Place

I know im commenting from afar in the safety of my home but Seeing as the kid was down to his undies, I would rule out a knife or gun, at the very least its out of his reach to get it. I think in that situation I would of step in. When things similar to that happen in my life, there's always this gut feeling that standing back feels terrible.

computermachina

RE: Concealed Carry

I not only have a permit to carry concealed, I actively carry. To whatever ass hinted at the notion that concealed carry would have made this situation any better is a moron. I hope to God he doesn't actually have a license.

Where to begin.

The piece of shit that attacked the man did not use lethal force. Under Massachusetts law, using lethal force in that situation in defense would not be justified. I can't speak to Ohio's state laws. In MA you can't use lethal force unless you are in "danger of your life or in grave bodily harm".

From a practical standpoint, while someone's beating the shit out of you: drawing a firearm, using it effectively, and not having it taken from you are all difficult to do.

My own response would've been to use pepper spray. I never carry lethal force (handgun) without a non-lethal alternative. If the situation is such that you need to defend yourself, but not so bad that you need to shoot someone, then you need a non-lethal alternative. Also, as mentioned before, while getting the shit beat out of you, it's easier to use pepper spray than a gun. Worse case scenario you incapacitate yourself and he gets the iPhone, but at least you tried. That's a better worst case scenario than someone winding up dead over an iPhone. Best case, you spray him and call the authorities. This way no one's dead and the perp is apprehended.

And don't forget to step on his balls (by accident of course) while getting up.

And to all you hippie fairies out there, not all of use gun-toting citizens are "out to get me some". We just acknowledge that there's danger out there and try to be prepared. Of course, on that note, he shouldn't have had his shiny expensive toy out in plain view to begin with.

umassdood

@ninjagin: "Two words: Concealed Carry"

Thank you.

@Sean Robertson: "The bus driver should have been fired on the spot for not having done anything to stop the kid."

It's definitely not in their job description, and they may even be forbidden to interfere for legal reasons.

@ps61318: "Either way, concealed carry simply increases the liklihood [sic] that someone winds up dead."

That is so very wrong it borders on immoral. I hope people here know better.

@Kanti_V2: "The guy getting jumped was lucky he didn't have a gun"

It's like a disease and you're a carrier.

@halfro: "Oh, Kershaw Knives. Great knifes..."

Yes they are. I'm a Benchmade (TM) man myself.

@johnnyabnormal: "Then she asked, 'Is your friend getting on the bus?'"

I shouldn't laugh, but that's funny. She was probably high. I'm glad you were OK, Mr. Abnormal.

@ornj: "...overload the battery and set the phone ablaze..."

Kind of like putting a phaser on overload.

gadgetplay

@graffiksguru:

I think its the bus drivers responsibility to keep passengers safe. So, the bus driver should also be killed.

Stacky Botrus

LOCATE AND EXECUTE THAT VAGRANT BASTARD! SON OF A MOTHERLESS GOAT !

DIE THEIVES OF THE NIGHT !

Stacky Botrus

Hmmm, all the more reason to:

a. Not walk around with earbuds in like a douche.
b. Keep going to the gym.
c. Eliminate the gap between the rich and the poor.

alowishus

@Kaiser-Machead: What's even more impressive. Since January, that was the first time he's been motivated enough to comment about something. Incredible.

92BuickLeSabre

Wow, I'm glad I'm 6'3" 225. I also agree the bus driver should've hit the gas, and then slam on the brakes to make him go flying.

@Laidan: Have a feeling the banhammer might be coming after you.

graffiksguru

@Laidan: Wayda go dumbshit. How's about giving a bottle of Clorox fellatio.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

i hope the iphone was OK.

dude111

fuck'n nigger

Laidan

sad sad
sad
sad
sad sad
sad
:(
why oh why
did she swallow the fly
i guess she'll die.....

chanmoss

@92BuickLeSabre: Isn't that what they do to each other in frat houses?

Sihanouk-s-Poodle

@Abe.Froman: nice reference, but that doesn't change the fact that as a result of that comment I think you are probably useless even with your iPhone...

bpapa9013

@ps61318: "Curb stomp that turd, indeed!"

How about Patrick McNee?

@92BuickLeSabre: "How very civilized."

Indeed. Thank you.

@resource: "Ever heard of black on black crime? Which is almost all crime."

This should be interesting.

@ANoel: "(or food for his children?)"

Abandoned long ago.

@ppiddy: "and you'd very likely land yourself in jail."

Shooting is rarely necessary, my civil friend. The mere showing of a firearm is enough to deter roughly 2.5 million crimes a year.

@computermachina: "I think in that situation I would of step in."

I'd have considered beating him half to death with that oh so conveniently placed stroller. Especially once the baby was removed.

@Laidan: Is that a Ban Hammer I hear?

@Barry99705: Absolutely correct. It's called the "Reasonable Man Doctrine." If a reasonable person would feel that the attacker meant them "death or grave bodily harm," then the use of lethal self defence is justified. In most states. "It's better to be judged by twelve, than carried by six."

@alowishus: "c. Eliminate the gap between the rich and the poor."

Yes, let's have the government steal our stuff at gunpoint and give it to the less fortunate. Oh, they already do that! How's that working out?

gadgetplay

@graffiksguru: if there wasn't a baby aboard.

or he could have tased the attacker. either way you need to be more alert when on public transportation, never think it will never happen to you, because it will.

Cuban__B

Nice comment. Agree with everything you said.

Although, as far as the non-lethal alternative, I think I'll skip the pepper spray and go with tazer to the balls.

graffiksguru

...and just to be clear, everyone here thinks the "frat boy" in alowishus's story should be curb stomped, stabbed, shot with no mercy, and then sent on to a career of prison-bitchery, correct?

92BuickLeSabre

@ninjagin: Yeah, agreed about the numbers thing. This one time me and a group of friends were walking past all these frat houses. We were a mixed group of guys and girls, not drunk, just walking and talking. We pass this dude sitting on a couch in a frat house lawn, drinking beer. He sees us and says something like "woo!" My friend says "wooo!" back, like "yeah, party man, sweeeet!"

But the frat boy takes it as mockery and chucks his half-full beer bottle at us. It hits one of the girls in the head. My friend loses it and charges the guy. Frat boy happens to be hewn from stone and just throws my friend across the lawn, like 10 feet. He runs over, grabs my friend and gets ready to wail on him. I run up, all 130 pounds of me, along with another guy (150 pounds), fists balled, eyebrows furled.

I put my hand on his shoulder, which is like a side of beef. This frat boy could've just broke me in half. But the prospect of fighting three dudes mellowed him right out. Suddenly he was apologizing for being so drunk and we were like "yeah, you need to chill out dude, we didn't mean to diss you."

But I'm still thankful he did clobber me. I would've gotten drain bammage, for sure.

alowishus

Glad i have my CHL now.

Cuban__B

@qbrad: Ah well, I apologize for being misinformed.

Karinabob

Wow. Common sense went out the window here. This demands INTERNET JUSTICE!

Human Bomb

It seems like teens are stealing stuff from other teens/students a lot nowadays. Two of my friends got some valuable stuff stolen from them at their school and they went to some pretty good schools.

lenandude

@Valrik: Again, this is not about a stupid iPhone.

ibelli

@black fronts: Clarify the "Usually, but not always black." Please.

ibelli

@thegadgeteer: This ain't about an iPhone, people.

ibelli

@geedots: True, but I prefer Zeitgeist for my boozin'!

@everyone: Didn't know there were so many racist Giz readers. What a bummer.

johnnyabnormal

My observations:

Perp (usually but not always black) beats up/robs/assaults a person. Forums go nuts over people talking about what they would do if they were in that situation or what they ought to do to the assailant/thug/moron as punishment.

More likely than not, these people frothing at the mouth and creaming their pants for more talk of revenge and retribution, don't live in areas of high crime.

(kinda like the country's reaction to 9/11. it seemed to me like people in New York stayed sane on the most part while the rest of the country was ready to lynch a Muslim on sight)

black fronts

Criminals like that shouldn't get any prison time. Just cut off their hands. I would bet that deters such crime.

Husar

@carmen digs se: "all the crazies are from Ohio "

Uh... incorrect. I can name 7 people at the very least.

wolfenstein-3d is sticking to his 4GB iphone1.0

I think the first punch and grab was for the iPhone, but after that I think he was just beating him trying to get his hoody back.

GeekyNerdGuy

I rarely comment but I want to say thank you to all the commenters who agree that the robber should be beaten down. I'm so sick of the liberal politically-correct BS that I hear every day living in LA.... people that say "violence doesn't solve anything, the kid needs help, not jail", or "it's racist to make fun of the way he dresses", or even "the kid probably needs money and this reflects how the government isn't doing anything to help poor people". So thank you, you guys have made my day.

cornflakesla

I have info: Bitch needs to pull his pants up. Oh, and he needs to get a job and buy his own damned iPhone. Punk ass.

That being said, the mugee handled himself pretty well for someone wedged in between bus seats.

phlavor

That skinny little turd will make a nice bitch for somebody in prison. He better pray he doesnt get caught.

Thrillcekr

What is dumb about this, is one phone call to AT&T and the phone is useless.

thebear91

@qbrad: You're just a bit off there. In prison everyone has to wear the same color on the outside. But in order to be different, they would show their "colors" in boxer shorts.

And that is where that whole fad came about. Made popular by rap artist that had either spent time in prison or were trying to emulate the hood.

Ya know, there's been some pretty crazy fashion ideas in the past, but one that you have to hold your pants up or can barely walk is just plain stupid.

thebear91

@cornflakesla: "So thank you, you guys have made my day."

Welcome. It's now Liberals 5,372, Conservatives 27.

@johnnyabnormal: "Didn't know there were so many racist Giz readers. What a bummer."

I only counted 3, and one of them might be black, in which case that comment would not necessarily be racist, and one may be just misinformed or maybe even right, who knows. And then there's @Laidan. *coughbanhammercough* I don't look for that sort of thing though, so I might have missed some. Even one's a bummer though.

gadgetplay

I've been mugged. I was about 14, there were two of them. I took a beating, they took my wallet. People stood around and watched. I spent the time immediately following ranting at them at high volume. It did me little good.

I'm now much bigger, stronger and far far better trained. I am by personality and inclination, the type who steps into situations like this.

HAVING SAID THAT:

a) what, the iPhoner is supposed to own but not use his shiney toy? Those who suggested that are stupid;

b) there has been a lot of press recently on all the stabbings in the UK -- fatal stabbings, often of people who STEPPED INTO CONFRONTATIONS;

c) Killing someone for trying to rob you is illegal and whether you're tried by 12 or merely before a grand jury, you will lose. And if he's merely beating you and you kill him, you will lose unless you can plant a knife on him and convince someone that those aren't REALLY your fingerprints all over the handle/blade;

d) Last fight I was in ended in a draw. I called the cops. They caught him. He claimed I jumped him. We both were marked up so the stinkin' LA Sheriff said, "I can take you both in or let you both go."

"Next time, I will not lose." -- Inego Montoya.

The unfortunate part of all the martial arts training I now have is that I cannot really get in fights. "People of the jury, Gyffes has over 20 years of martial arts training: what he did to this poor boy could have been avoided..."

And, lastly, I shall leave you with Jesse Jackson's greatest current sorrow (true story): "that when I hear steps behind me and realize it's not a black man, I am relieved."

Assholes come in all colors. Cheney's white, isn't he? Look how many people he's robbed and killed.

gyffes

@phlavor: Yes, I have heard of that: apparently, there are these things called jobs that give people money to buy whatever they want. And not only that, if you want more money than your current job pays, you can get one that pays more.

If you want or need a formal college education so you can get the job you want, you can go to college. And here is the really amazing part: if you don't have enough money to go to college, people will give you money to go and if that isn't enough, people will loan you what you need to make up the difference.

So could things be different for criminals if they had more education? Sure, but there are plenty of uneducated people in the world who are not violent or thieves let alone both. We all make our own choices and this little fucker chose to be a violent criminal.

Brian Sexton

@gyffes: "The unfortunate part of all the martial arts training I now have is that I cannot really get in fights. "People of the jury, Gyffes has over 20 years of martial arts training: what he did to this poor boy could have been avoided..."

Dude, you are the first trained martial artist I've heard say that. We teach that to all our students. Doesn't matter how long they've been to class, they're now "trained in self defense, they should have been able to handle the situation without killing the person", even if the bastard deserved it.

Barry99705

@pazhman: You fail. Dumbass

iCanhasLs2plz

You can't blame people for being scared in a situation like this and it is quite possible that a violent thief would be armed, but it is also possible that people just didn't know what was going on. People get into fights all the time and people around them might not be able to tell a robbery from some other altercation nor villain from victim. Of course, when a beating goes on as long as this one, it may become clear which person is then the aggressor regardless of how things started and what other people know or don't know about how things started.

That all said, it seems most unfortunate that someone did not give that violent criminal his well-earned turn at receiving a savage beating.

Brian Sexton

This is why my friends and I coined the term "hoodbooger", which we promptly put on www.urbandictionary.com.

It's stupid, uneducated f**ks like that who make the world scary. Its not about race, or gender, or who your momma is... it's the kind of person you choose to be. Honestly, if I were that bus driver, I would have started trying to mow the little beyotch over the moment he hopped off the bus.

gizmodo_is_my_crack

Such incidents are reasons why in case of theft we need the ability to not only track our iPhone but also the option to remote wipe the data. Since the iPhone 3G will have GPS and the ability to remote wipe data it will make it easier for the law to catch and prosecute idiots such as the attacker in the video. A reminder for those getting an iPhone to use the option to PIN lock your device. That way if it is jacked you don't have to worry about the carrier being only able to lock the SIM card.

imagine-engine

Yikes. I live in Ohio and go to OSU. Those COTA buses always seemed rather unsavory to me.

I'll be on edge when I get on that bus ever again, ready to own anyone who so much as flinches in my general direction.

- PR-0927

PR-0927

Living in Dayton, right next door to columbus, this kind of crap happens all the time at malls. Ohio is a rather violent state - anyone remember those riots in cincci???

Creibold

that video makes me physically ill. a flying sidekick would have been nice from anyone. honestly, i don't know what i'd do in that situation aside from just stopping the violence. i'm also martial arts trained, but in order to maintain peace, one must sometimes engage in violent acts. i feel sorry for the victim. i have no pity for the assailant. all punks should be unpunked by a vigilant crowd determined on doing what is right.

stand up for each other america. we're on the downward spiral towards violence and disrespect.

D.LYTE

It's all apples fault. If those bone heads didn't gimp the phones bluetooth, he could have been chillin listening to music with some wireless headphones that weren't white. avoiding the beat down. Klingon boy would have assumed there crappy fm radio headphones from the 80's.

aeroworks

Why cant the equip the video cameras with a taser?

masteryoda

@aeroworks: "Klingon boy would have assumed there crappy fm radio headphones from the 80's" or the Coby's he's already got.

qbrad

@thebear91: [www.nytimes.com] I guess we're both a bit wrong according to this article.
However, I've seen a bunch of testimony on the tubez by corrections officers saying my explanation is the origin, but that's not really the issue. More disturbing is that everyone agrees that it stems from prison culture, yet emulation of that culture through dress/behaviour by teenagers AND adults is a hip thing to do.

qbrad

@ninjagin:

x2

iwantcokeinabottle

i find it awesome that this guy still has his iphone. He must have had the death grip, cause after awhile he was just getting stomped. way to go white collar!

pevans34

haha... what a tough little shit... Hurting on someone just minding there own business so you can have something you didn't earn and cannot afford... get a job you punk ass loser.. quit wasting your money on extra fabric for your baggy ass clothes (which make you look like a tool) and save up for something if you want it...

What a sorry display of human behavior. This guy will get what is coming if he already doesn't on a daily basis.

Someone get this video to Mr. Jobs or someone at apple PR... Get them a free iPhone 3G as well as some other rad gadgets

two_ocelots

@ibelli: meaning black on white crime tends to solicit the biggest reactions

black fronts

@gyffes: "Cheney's white, isn't he? Look how many people he's robbed and killed."

Zero, [pejorative deleted]. You were doing so w