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ONDA Urinal Concept Changes the Question: Did You Wash Yours Hands While Going to the Bathroom?
Posted by Gizmodo US Edition at 7:00 AM on June 9, 2008
Usually, washing up in the toilet at a sporting event gets you a one-way ticket out of the ballpark, but that could be changing thanks to Lee Isherwood and his ODNA urinal concept. The first--and probably last--of its kind, the ODNA promotes water conservation by combining a hand washing station with a urinal. Instead of simply flushing, you go about your business and then wash your hands in the infrared-activated "sink" above. The cascading water from the sink cleans out the toilet, and serves as the "flush."
The beauty of the ONDA, beyond its Italian-inspired design and conservation chops (uses only half the water--think about it), is that it can be fitted to existing plumbing. It also features an "anti-splashback" design for those with less-than-desirable aim (score!).
Of course, for you non-hand washers out there, this is just another toilet. You know who you are. [Hershwood 3D via The Design Blog]

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typoink
Posted 7:18 AM 9/6/08
@bosskev: Did you miss the fact that there's a partition there? The pictured one is a bit on the small side, but raise it a foot and deepen it by 6" and I think it WOULD seem more "secluded" than a traditional restroom layout.
Clever design, but I can't imagine this getting implemented. Just a little too offbeat.
typoink
Wrynocerous
Posted 7:15 AM 9/6/08
@bosskev: Yes, that only serves to prove the designer has never been in a mens restroom - or is looking to increase his chances of meeting another man in the restroom.
Wrynocerous
bosskev
Posted 7:13 AM 9/6/08
The main diagram boasts "natural seclusion in corner space", yet it shows the two urinals, and thus the two guys--who would normally be staring face forward into a wall--angled into each other such that it would be all but impossible to avoid eye contact while peeing. Not that I'm necessarily complaining, mind you, just pointing out the design features...
bosskev
Fzzt
Posted 7:11 AM 9/6/08
I'm going to assume the inventor of this device has never actually been to a Men's restroom during a sporting event because this is a horrible idea.
For one, you know some people are going to try to get their pee 'to the upper level'
For another, even urinals get plugged up during game time and having hand washing amounts of water cascading down into the bowl is a bad idea.
Then what about soap.
In my opinion it's best to keep the hand washing station quite seperate from the urinal though during a really big game people will even pee into the sink because everyone is standing around washing & drying their hands in the urinal!
Fzzt
rimshot515
Posted 7:10 AM 9/6/08
wait a minute, why do you need water for the flush? i heard somewhere that its just a waste of water and makes it smell worse.
rimshot515
Wrynocerous
Posted 7:09 AM 9/6/08
I thought we were supposed to be making progress as the human race develops? Ask the folks in 3rd world countries if you should pee in the same place that you wash your hands...
Wrynocerous
bngi
Posted 7:05 AM 9/6/08
I dont see how anyone would want to wash their hands in the same place as you take a leak.
bngi
92BuickLeSabre
Posted 7:05 AM 9/6/08
While there does not appear to be anything wrong with this,
there is nonetheless something very wrong with this.
92BuickLeSabre
Kaiser-Machead's Macbook has been taken hostage by LindsayJoy br
Posted 7:47 AM 9/6/08
Anti-splashback design? Unless it's been drunk with high-pressure bladder tested, I won't believe that for a second. I for one do not want to wash my hands in the same dank eau de urine ceramic mouth.
Kaiser-Machead's Macbook has been taken hostage by LindsayJoy brb
Mindfield
Posted 7:47 AM 9/6/08
Plus -- if this thing ever came to North America, could the poo shelf be far behind?
Mindfield
Mindfield
Posted 7:46 AM 9/6/08
@rimshot515:
Have you ever been to a public bathroom that doesn't have automatic flushing urinals where people haven't flushed? It freakin' reeks. So, no. Not a waste of water, unless you don't mind the smell of stale piss.
Although if you're a Coors drinker...
And, uh, no... no washing while I wee. That'll make the two shakes thing a bit, um ... moist. And cold.
Mindfield
mricpx
Posted 7:46 AM 9/6/08
Why don't they just design a urinal that will never splash back? That'd actually be useful.
mricpx
Hvedhrungr
Posted 7:45 AM 9/6/08
@pantsonfireliarliar: I'm not sure I can, nor really want to, visualize that.
Hvedhrungr
Hvedhrungr
Posted 7:44 AM 9/6/08
Also, NO to washing my hands in the urinal.
Hvedhrungr
pantsonfireliarliar
Posted 7:44 AM 9/6/08
Been in Spain the past two weeks and there's a urinal design that seems to be popular, that's kinda gross to my American tastes. It's a standard urinal with two cutouts for your legs to press up on. So basically you press yourself up into the urinal if you want any privacy at all.
pantsonfireliarliar
Hvedhrungr
Posted 7:44 AM 9/6/08
@Karinabob: It's not as difficult as it may seem at first.
Judging from purely empiric evidence, women's accuracy with urinals cannot be significantly worse than men's accuracy in general.
To make urinals more easily accessible to women, I'd suppose the lower edge would need to reach out further. Incidentally, this would also increase the to hit chance for men so drunk they need both hands to steady themselves against the wall. Furthermore, it would make it more difficult for dogs to drink out of said urinals.
...
Damn, I should have this patented...
Hvedhrungr
Karinabob
Posted 7:36 AM 9/6/08
I think I would have to do some serious gymnastics to pee in a urinal...so I'm gonna withhold any judgements on this one.
Karinabob
redrabbit
Posted 7:32 AM 9/6/08
Don't forget to add that little tidbit about being able to attach your iphone onto the mount and talk to people while pissing! (Since you left out the iphone and it's amazing ability in this news post :P)
redrabbit
nocturnus
Posted 8:10 AM 9/6/08
as long as people didn't pee on the top part it doesn't matter, and it's not while you pee, it's activated like a sink is, you have to wave your hands in front of it.
if you people talk about people peeing in sinks at sports events, then does it matter? people can still pee in sinks, but are discouraged with the difficulty, and yet they still save water!
It seems to be fine with me, I really don't care, as long as I can pee and wash my hands.
Also, think about flushing the toilet, fecal matter is spread into the air, and you breath it in, it gets in you and all over you and in everything you touch, just think about that while you're talking about something you can prevent. (don't pee in the top part damnit!)
nocturnus
elgilicious
Posted 8:05 AM 9/6/08
Many guys don't wash their hands; moving the "sink" closer to a man's prick won't change that. Division of labor, I say.
elgilicious
92BuickLeSabre
Posted 8:02 AM 9/6/08
@GiltProto: A frontal bidet feature?
You mean the toilet shoots a warm stream of water at my crotch, meaning either I have a large wet spot on the front of my pants (always fun to explain) or I have to pull my pants down all the way when I pee (again, always fun to explain)?
I like it!!!
92BuickLeSabre
GiltProto
Posted 7:56 AM 9/6/08
You could add a frontal bidet feature for cleansing your wiener in addition to cleansing your hands. And then why not add a drinking fountain feature as well. It's four, four, four, four applicances in one! This thing is almost as good as a mooncup.
GiltProto
WesTheYeti
Posted 7:54 AM 9/6/08
With this, I'd never have to decide whether to pee in the toilet or the sink.
WesTheYeti
Bloodboiler
Posted 7:54 AM 9/6/08
That still wastes water. Urine is antiseptic, so you could just disinfect your hands naturally as you go.
I don't see how that could be any more objectionable than washing your hands in the urinal with water and someone else's pee.
I hate designers. Environmental consciousness seems to make them even stupider.
Bloodboiler
daath
Posted 8:36 AM 9/6/08
I would *definitely* aim for the upper level while taking a leak. What about really tall guys? Or really, really small guys?
Anyway, I use a toilet, and tissue. My manhood is not able to sniff like my nose.
daath
FredicvsMaximvs
Posted 8:36 AM 9/6/08
@uncle_wiggly: Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the deal was that you do your business, zip, THEN wash your hands, no?
FredicvsMaximvs
FredicvsMaximvs
Posted 8:35 AM 9/6/08
It's a pretty good idea, but I think it could use some refinement. For starters, I think there needs to be more of a visual separation between the top and bottom parts in order to avoid the squick factor.
They should also throw in the hand drier in the mix - nice, warm air blowing all over your, uh, hands...
FredicvsMaximvs
shamoononon
Posted 8:30 AM 9/6/08
I don't know even though I have not personally used a urinal, that just seems disgusting.
@uncle_wiggly: LOL, nice avatar. But, couldn't you just put your penis away BEFORE washing your hands?
shamoononon
uncle_wiggly
Posted 8:23 AM 9/6/08
The fatal flaw in the concept is that after washing your hands you then have to complete the ritual by penis handling, requiring a second hand washing... unless there's also an apparatus that will place the penis back in the trousers hands-free.
uncle_wiggly
frigg
Posted 9:02 AM 9/6/08
Actually, looking at the diagram, it looks more like some kind of contraption for guys who enjoy drinking their own pee.
frigg
shamoononon
Posted 9:01 AM 9/6/08
@rainsfather: but daath uses a tissue. (tee hee hee)
shamoononon
frigg
Posted 8:56 AM 9/6/08
A urinal only Larry Craig could love.
frigg
rainsfather
Posted 8:53 AM 9/6/08
well....it sucks that i have to bring this up but none of you (or the designer) have spent a night in jail. they have these in most cells. what makes it worse is yes you do poop in it also. i really hope this doesnt catch on because anything that reminds me of the night i spent in jail is a bad thing.
rainsfather
ferrdidly
Posted 8:53 AM 9/6/08
Brilliantly disgusting
ferrdidly
danishh
Posted 8:52 AM 9/6/08
if done right, this makes so much sense.
I would do it, though i imagine a number of people would require convincing.
danishh
Karinabob
Posted 8:49 AM 9/6/08
@Hvedhrungr: You know, that would probably work. Although if we would actually USE it is still in question...
Karinabob
shamoononon
Posted 8:44 AM 9/6/08
@daath: Thanks for the visual.
shamoononon
Sam_Zebian
Posted 9:28 AM 9/6/08
what about people going to the bathroom to just use the sink, now we have to go to the urinals anyways??? What if I just need to wash my hands from dinner at a restaurant, or I have dirty hands from all the damn soda and popcorn at the movies...
Sam_Zebian
mordecaidrake
Posted 9:23 AM 9/6/08
and whats to stop someone from doing their business in the hand washing area?
mordecaidrake
catbutt
Posted 9:18 AM 9/6/08
Well the point everyone seems to miss is that if the toilet is in one place and the sink in another, before you wash your hands you have no choice but to transfer the germs to your clothing. Probably more of an issue when pooing, but still.
The only problem with this idea is that people have irrational hang ups.
catbutt
MacBandit
Posted 9:15 AM 9/6/08
stink@Mindfield:
Disney World has waterless urinals and they work great and don't stink.
MacBandit
Zuman
Posted 9:08 AM 9/6/08
You sure are taking a long time, you'd better be washing your hands!
Cmon, nobody said it!
Zuman
sparx104
Posted 9:08 AM 9/6/08
Someone's obviously seen this (and it's variations)...
[seriousgamessource.com]
(or here: [www.diynot.com])
A good idea in the home, not so sure in public. Here in the UK people would just crap in both levels instead of the just the lower one.
sparx104
wetworker
Posted 10:13 AM 9/6/08
@Wrynocerous: @Wrynocerous:
Why go that far for the information, why not asks someone that lives around the 5 great lakes of North America, those lakes are the crème de la crème of human juices.
wetworker
Kaiser-Machead's Macbook has been taken hostage by LindsayJoy br
Posted 10:10 AM 9/6/08
@Sam_Zebian: When I came back feral from my extended stay in Grenada, I didn't realize I was washing up in the toilet. It actually cleared my acne, but hindsight will never let me forgive myself. These things bring back horrible memories.
Kaiser-Machead's Macbook has been taken hostage by LindsayJoy brb
Kaiser-Machead's Macbook has been taken hostage by LindsayJoy br
Posted 10:36 AM 9/6/08
@wetworker: Except lake Erie. There's a fish guy that will snatch your willy off if you piss in the lake.
Kaiser-Machead's Macbook has been taken hostage by LindsayJoy brb
skulldriveshaft
Posted 11:11 AM 9/6/08
the guy on the right totally missed.
and as always, I'll be leaving a huge wad of phelm in the upper shelf with my chewing tobacco.
skulldriveshaft
Bokusatsu_Tenshi
Posted 12:18 PM 9/6/08
Yeah right.
What's next? A big toilet where you can also wash your feet while poo-ing?
Bokusatsu_Tenshi
jsin1276
Posted 12:12 PM 9/6/08
They say it is water, but they won't fool me.
jsin1276
vagrant
Posted 12:45 PM 9/6/08
While a similar toilet can be found in many homes here in Japan, a bit different styling is all, I've never seen it in any public location.
I think it would simply get clogged with cigarette butts, or as previously mentioned, LEVEL 2 BONUS ROUND.
Still, you can't use soap with it, so the gf and I never use it and use the sink to wash.
vagrant
aaj111
Posted 1:21 PM 9/6/08
Actually, it sounds like a great way to make people more lazy. I say go for it.
aaj111
UnStatusTheQuo
Posted 2:03 PM 9/6/08
Neat idea until the popped-collar punk from the club who has had too many fruity drinks decides to do the "Arc de Triomphe" with his whiz stream and then you're the poor fool who washes his hands there next.
I'll stick with the sink.
UnStatusTheQuo
Metkis
Posted 1:46 PM 9/6/08
The guy on the right looks like he's rocking out Jimi Hendrix style.
Metkis
shamoononon
Posted 2:25 PM 9/6/08
@VakeroRokero: Well, you'll still have the pee pee on your hands and perhaps a side of sperm, but heck, you'll have removed the bacteria.
shamoononon
VakeroRokero
Posted 2:20 PM 9/6/08
Great idea, thank god I carry antiseptic gel with me, so I don't end up with 37 guys' urine in my hands before eating a hamburger...
VakeroRokero
Oceaniax
Posted 3:25 PM 9/6/08
In a perfect world, awesome idea. In reality, worst. idea. EVER. Seriously.
Oceaniax
pradster
Posted 4:19 PM 9/6/08
I cant aim. period!
pradster
Kaiser-Machead is in your Macbook Pro!
Posted 7:46 PM 9/6/08
@pradster: The sad truth is that comedic-fire hose urinators require a shower+curtain environment to be safe.
Kaiser-Machead is in your Macbook Pro!
DigitalSciGuy
Posted 8:45 PM 9/6/08
This'd be really nice in public area restrooms like those in Penn Station. Take out the sinks and you've got more urinal and cubicle space. Plus, it improves traffic flow in heavily utilized restrooms because people only have to make one stop at the urinal (most people do anyway ~~ eww XP) - people walk in, do their business, walk out.
DigitalSciGuy
bms
Posted 11:17 PM 9/6/08
So does this make it easier to pee on your hands?
bms
leonard71
Posted 11:44 PM 9/6/08
This of course assumes people won't pee in the upper level. Wrong. People will pee in it just for the fun of it. Hell I wouldn't be shocked to find someone pinched a loaf into the upper level. I rather not wash my hands.
leonard71
MarlboroTestMonkey7
Posted 12:30 AM 10/6/08
Without a water fountain at the top of the washing station the design is useless.
MarlboroTestMonkey7
tvdavem
Posted 9:23 AM 9/6/08
In Japan, many of the regular toilets do this. When you flush the toilet, the water that refills the tank flows out of a faucet where you can wash your hands, then into a basin on the top of the tank, refilling the tank.
tvdavem
Fierock
Posted 1:17 PM 10/6/08
why not just plumb the sewer lines from the sinks into the flush reservoir for the urinals...
+ Watch video
Fierock
MadMacs
Posted 10:58 AM 9/6/08
So how do you zip up your pants with wet hands?
Did I miss something in the story?
MadMacs
acidmnky
Posted 7:11 AM 10/6/08
Whatever. this is no match for the PooTooth device...it's like having a chauffeur that drops the kids off at the pool for you.
acidmnky
Kbalz
Posted 10:44 PM 9/6/08
I'm going to pee in the top part and leave it for you!
Kbalz
ShuklaLepidus
Posted 5:26 PM 9/6/08
waterless, odourless urinals. already very popular in europe! http://urimat.com/
ShuklaLepidus
Deivion
Posted 12:48 PM 9/6/08
So......I have to put my face near where I piss to wash my face now? But its all ok, I can fix my hair while taking a piss! What a time saver this is...that is if they put a mirror over every toilet...
Deivion
ZivenMalinky
Posted 11:33 AM 9/6/08
Actually, toilets in some Japanese homes have something like this already. Basically there is a sink on top of the water tank of the toilet. When you flush, the water comes out of the faucet for you to wash your hands and then the water drains into the tank to prepare for the next flush. Here's one: http://www.gaiam.com/product/eco-home-outdoor/bathroom/accessories/toilet+li d+sink.do?product%5Fid=02-0334
ZivenMalinky
asdflkjh
Posted 7:16 AM 9/6/08
Of course, you could just piss in the sink, wash your hands and save all that money.
asdflkjh