Weapons
Boeing Successfully Fires 25 kW Solid-State Lasers, Laser Weapons One Step Closer to Being a Reality
Posted by Adam Frucci at 2:00 AM on June 5, 2008
Boeing has just tested its new thin-disk laser, the most powerful solid-state laser ever made. It fires at over 25 kilowatts, with the scalability proven to go up to a 100 kilowatt laser in the coming years. A 100 kW laser would be the most powerful ever made, one that has a lot of challenges to overcome, including reducing the excess heat generated by such a powerful laser and maintaining the quality of the beam over distances. But even a 25 kW laser is extremely powerful. As the press release says, it "will damage, disable or destroy targets at the speed of light, with little to no collateral damage, supporting missions on the battlefield and in urban operations." Hit the jump for the full release.
Boeing Fires New Thin-Disk Laser, Achieving Solid-State Laser Milestone
ST. LOUIS, June 03, 2008 — The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] fired its new thin-disk laser system repeatedly in recent tests, achieving the highest known simultaneous power, beam quality and run time for any solid-state laser to date.
In each laser firing at Boeing's facility in West Hills, Calif., the high-energy laser achieved power levels of over 25 kilowatts for multi-second durations, with a measured beam quality suitable for a tactical weapon system. The Boeing laser integrates multiple thin-disk lasers into a single system. Through these successful tests, the Boeing team has proven the concept of scalability to a 100-kilowatt-class system based on the same architecture and technology.
"Solid-state lasers will revolutionize the battlefield by giving the warfighter an ultra-precision engagement capability that can dramatically reduce collateral damage," said Scott Fancher, vice president and general manager of Boeing Missile Defence Systems. "These successful tests show that Boeing has made solid progress toward making this revolutionary capability a reality."
The thin-disk laser is an initiative to demonstrate that solid-state laser technologies are now ready to move out of the laboratory and into full development as weapon systems. Solid-state lasers are powered by electricity, making them highly mobile and supportable on the battlefield. The Boeing laser represents the most electrically efficient solid-state laser technology known. The system is designed to meet the rapid-fire, rapid-retargeting requirements of area-defence, anti-missile and anti-mortar tactical high-energy laser systems. It is also ideal for non-lethal, ultra-precision strike missions urgently needed by warfighters in war zones.
"This accomplishment demonstrates Boeing's commitment to advancing the state of the art in directed energy technology," said Gary Fitzmire, vice president and program director of Boeing Directed Energy Systems. "These successful tests are a significant milestone toward providing reliable and supportable lasers to U.S. warfighters."
Boeing's approach incorporates a series of commercial-off-the-shelf, state-of-the-art lasers used in the automotive industry. These industrial lasers have demonstrated exceedingly high reliability, supportability and maintainability.
A high-power solid-state laser will damage, disable or destroy targets at the speed of light, with little to no collateral damage, supporting missions on the battlefield and in urban operations.
[Boeing, Thanks, Jason!]

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Log1c
Posted 2:44 AM 5/6/08
@Gann: "Hah! You can see... Yourself!"
Log1c
strider_mt2k
Posted 2:40 AM 5/6/08
@GirlGadget:
@DeanOfAllTrades:
Awesome.
strider_mt2k
groverdog
Posted 2:39 AM 5/6/08
pew pew pew
groverdog
kaylix
Posted 2:34 AM 5/6/08
Ya know, Firestarter had the same problem with heat dissapation. Maybe Boeing could check in with her??
kaylix
impliedsurprise
Posted 2:32 AM 5/6/08
I would love to see a video of them vaporizing something. Like the shotgun blast in Death Becomes Her.
impliedsurprise
Lukewpnunn
Posted 2:29 AM 5/6/08
oooh. When can I order bazooka-sized shoulder cannon, a la Akira?
Lukewpnunn
Gann
Posted 2:28 AM 5/6/08
Mirrors: the new camouflage
Gann
Skitchin
Posted 2:27 AM 5/6/08
Uh oh, I'm in St. Louis...I'M IN RANGE! Hmm...wonder what I could get on ebay for one of these... :P
Skitchin
bootie
Posted 2:26 AM 5/6/08
One step closer to Giant Fighting Robots! I want my mech now!
bootie
aseriesoftubes
Posted 2:23 AM 5/6/08
Any mention of whether or not the laser can be strapped to the head of, say, a shark?
aseriesoftubes
froggy
Posted 2:23 AM 5/6/08
I would love to see pics of scientist team working on the test site. I bet all the guys around it were wearing safety goggles. even tho... eh, forget it.
froggy
DeanOfAllTrades
Posted 2:23 AM 5/6/08
+ Watch video
DeanOfAllTrades
DeanOfAllTrades
Posted 2:22 AM 5/6/08
Isn't this the laser from Real Genius?
DeanOfAllTrades
Rabid Penguin
Posted 2:21 AM 5/6/08
Imagine your at a Mannheim Steamroller, Christmas, Laser show and they accidentally switched out the lasers for some of these 25kW ones. I may actually enjoy a Mannheim Steamroller show.
Rabid Penguin
s7yl33
Posted 2:20 AM 5/6/08
@MadColombian: But then where would progress come from? lol.
s7yl33
nutbastard
Posted 2:18 AM 5/6/08
@weatherman:
instant, permanent blindness comes to mind.
nutbastard
MadColombian
Posted 2:17 AM 5/6/08
Have they not learned the lesson taught to us by Iron Man?
Make amazing weapons... bad guys will eventually get them.
(the jericho (sp?) and iron man suit as examples)
MadColombian
Workout
Posted 2:17 AM 5/6/08
I doubt ONLY lethal laser would be allowed. I don't think you'd get court marshaled for having a laser pen on your key chain!
Workout
lawnmowerdeth
Posted 2:16 AM 5/6/08
But the professor demanded 5 megawatts by mid-May!
lawnmowerdeth
weatherman
Posted 2:13 AM 5/6/08
I'm curious about what the "non-lethal" applications are, since my understanding that only lethal lasers would be allowable on the battlefield.
weatherman
MJDeviant
Posted 2:09 AM 5/6/08
I like how instead of solving problems we spend billions to destroy them. And also, I can't wait for this to fall into the wrong hands....as if us building it isn't already the wrong hands.
MJDeviant
faabshaam
Posted 2:07 AM 5/6/08
First place to use them...London Underground, to remove the protesting masses.
faabshaam
GirlGadget
Posted 2:07 AM 5/6/08
But does it make popcorn?
GirlGadget
Git Em SteveDave
Posted 3:08 AM 5/6/08
@Monty: Now the kilt was only for day-to-day wear. In battle, we donned a full-length ball gown covered in sequins. The idea was to blind your opponent with luxury.
Git Em SteveDave
Bistroengine
Posted 3:08 AM 5/6/08
@nutbastard:
Wouldn't be more like instant, permanent head loss?
Bistroengine
Git Em SteveDave
Posted 3:06 AM 5/6/08
@sqeakytoy of the apocalypse: I always admire Jordan. Hyperactive, a genius, doesn't sleep, and cute? What else could you ask for?
What about that time I caught you naked with that bowl of Jello?
Git Em SteveDave
bbfreak
Posted 3:05 AM 5/6/08
LAZERS! THEY STING! MY EYES!
bbfreak
Monty
Posted 2:58 AM 5/6/08
What colors will this laser beam be available in? I am partial to blue, especially when fighting on desert soil. But there are times when a nice red beam can really perk-up the troops and present a new message to the enemy.
Monty
sqeakytoy of the apocalypse
Posted 2:55 AM 5/6/08
"I was dreaming"
"Was it the one where you were standing on top a pyramid, in Sun God robes, with thousands of naked women throwing little pickles at you?"
"... ...no...?"
"Why is it that I am the only one that has that dream?"
sqeakytoy of the apocalypse
sqeakytoy of the apocalypse
Posted 2:51 AM 5/6/08
@GirlGadget:
@lawnmowerdeth:
@DeanOfAllTrades:
before we begin, let me say I admire your taste in footwear...
sqeakytoy of the apocalypse
Jeffrey McManus
Posted 2:51 AM 5/6/08
Sending energy to a target at the speed of light is one thing; targeting and tracking something that's in motion (like a shoulder-mounted missile) will be quite another.
Jeffrey McManus
Boatski
Posted 2:49 AM 5/6/08
Next up, Boeing introduces world's first working Lightsaber.
Boatski
Bistroengine
Posted 3:39 AM 5/6/08
@DeanOfAllTrades:
It's Uncle Rico!
Bistroengine
SigmundTheSeaMonster
Posted 3:33 AM 5/6/08
Hammer of Dawn is online. Woohoo!
SigmundTheSeaMonster
harshmellow
Posted 3:32 AM 5/6/08
@Gann: You nailed it. Super expensive and mega-powerful laser, meet mirror.
harshmellow
tamoko
Posted 3:29 AM 5/6/08
@bobdobbs: Popcorn!!!
tamoko
SlinkyDink
Posted 3:28 AM 5/6/08
I smell a Roomba mod.
Or was that the dog?
SlinkyDink
shamoononon
Posted 3:28 AM 5/6/08
Good Job Boeing!
shamoononon
bobdobbs
Posted 3:28 AM 5/6/08
Dammit, all the Real Genius and pew pew pew jokes are taken.
I'm going to sulk now.
bobdobbs
ps61318
Posted 3:27 AM 5/6/08
@sqeakytoy of the apocalypse: "Why do you where that thing on your head?"
"Because if I wear it anywhere else it chafes."
ps61318
bohn002
Posted 3:26 AM 5/6/08
i saw them talking about this on tv the other day on Dogfights of the future or something. Basically the laser is mounted in a 747 and can shoot down enemy planes (shoot down = artistic rendering of total obliteration) from a couple miles away. its supposed to be able to track migs so who knows. They have yet to test the plane and the laser at the same time. Supposedly they are going to be able to eventually shrink the lasers down to tank mounted weapons.
bohn002
pevans34
Posted 3:26 AM 5/6/08
one step closer to setting phasers on stun.
im down.
pevans34
zakharm
Posted 3:22 AM 5/6/08
@GirlGadget:
@lawnmowerdeth:
@DeanOfAllTrades:
@sqeakytoy of the apocalypse:
Love Real Genius!
"Can you hammer a six inch spike through a board with your penis?"
"Not yet."
"A girl's got to have her standards."
zakharm
flyboy
Posted 3:22 AM 5/6/08
@tamoko: first the technology, then weaponize it, then work out how to deliver it.
Enola Gay.
flyboy
dwarfgoat
Posted 3:22 AM 5/6/08
@weatherman: If I recall correctly, the Geneva Conventions forbid the use of lasers against human targets. They probably use "non-lethal" in the marketing just to preclude people complaining that Boeing will be helping the US to develop anti-personnel laser weapons.
dwarfgoat
xxdesmus
Posted 3:21 AM 5/6/08
You get points for the "pew pew".
xxdesmus
tamoko
Posted 3:16 AM 5/6/08
I love it when the Giz is shilling for the military-industrial complex... It reminds of puppies of rainbows.
Seriously, these weapons "sound" rather cool, but it just seems like more of the same shit we heard 20+ years ago with Star wars laser weapons systems, orbital battle mirrors, etc. Yes, the technology has grown by leaps and bounds, but since 9-11, it seems like we keep getting this flow of "super weapons", where only a fraction make tactical, if not economic sense.
tamoko
jpbraconi
Posted 4:11 AM 5/6/08
@middy:
c´mon.. the mirror was a joke!
jpbraconi
middy
Posted 4:10 AM 5/6/08
@MJDeviant: For many problems, destroyed == solved.
@Jeffrey McManus: Targeting is much easier when your weapon reaches its target instantaneously in a straight line (for all practical purposes).
@dwarfgoat: Only if they are explicitly used as blinding weapons.
A mirror will not work you morans! The best you could do is get it down to 10-20% absorption, which would still burn through right away.
middy
weatherman
Posted 4:02 AM 5/6/08
@nutbastard, Workout, dwarfgoat: actually I think the Geneva Conventions and subsequent Protocol IV prohibit blinding weapons, but not necessarily lasers for other purposes. So laser guided bombs are OK, a 25kW destructive laser might be just fine, but a laser pen used for blinding would actually be prohibited. I could be wrong - it's been a long time since I studied those provisions of the Geneva Conventions. I don't even know whether the US is a signatory to that provision. Not that it would matter - we don't really seem to care what international treaties we've signed anyway, these days.
weatherman
frigg
Posted 3:59 AM 5/6/08
So how exactly does it reduce collateral damage? Wouldn't someone firing a laser gun be just as able to miss as someone firing a conventional gun?
Also, what does "damage, disable or destroy targets" actually mean? Does it vaporize flesh? Can it be put on "stun"? What are the effects on metal? Would it burn a hole through the side of a tank, or cause an explosion?
frigg
jpbraconi
Posted 3:55 AM 5/6/08
ok.. i´ll buy a mirror now....
hahaha
jpbraconi
axel000
Posted 3:50 AM 5/6/08
@harshmellow:
Contrary to urban legend, a mirror will not protect you from a high powered laser, mirrors are not 100% refractive, thats why the reflection is always a little dimmer than the source.
axel000
fsusmithc2
Posted 3:50 AM 5/6/08
@bobdobbs: Not so...
"This? This is ice. This is what happens to water when it gets too cold. This? This is Kent. This is what happens to people when they get too sexually frustrated."
fsusmithc2
SalParadise
Posted 3:45 AM 5/6/08
So, if I arm myself with a mirror, will it bounce the laser back and destroy the apparatus firing it, or will the laser melt through my mirror? (note to self, don't stand directly behind mirror until I get an authoritative answer on this one!)
SalParadise
flyboy
Posted 4:31 AM 5/6/08
@Shai: they can put quite a few 3" holes in that tank quite quickly is my guess.
flyboy
FredicvsMaximvs
Posted 4:24 AM 5/6/08
Dude, I am so going to engrave my name on the moon with this thing!
"'...can dramatically reduce collateral damage,' said Scott Fancher, vice president and general manager of Boeing Missile Defense Systems"
- until, of course, they manage to make it small enough to be hand-held, and give it to Larry, Moe, and Curly.
FredicvsMaximvs
Shai
Posted 4:23 AM 5/6/08
@frigg: If you want to take out a tank, vehicle or person using air support, you have to use a bomb or lots of bullets. All of which have a pretty good possibility to damage everything in the area... A 1s pulse from a 100kW laser would just fry everything in 3' of the target.
Of course, the spot that the laser hits may blind you too.
Shai
jpbraconi
Posted 4:17 AM 5/6/08
@jpbraconi:
right?
jpbraconi
icelight
Posted 5:02 AM 5/6/08
@MJDeviant: Yes, because "solving" Mid-East peace would be so easy if we could just sit everyone down at a table for a cup of tea. In the meantime, I'm all for what are primarily defensive weapons designed to protect urban populations from random mortar fire and shelling. (e.g the Israel-Palestine border.) At this stage they are hardly highly mobile offensive weapons, require much too large power supplies and infrastructure. Which means all it would do would be to remove one highly asymmetrical, civilian-targeting weapon from the world's arsenal. And I'm not sure there's too much of a downside to that.
icelight
fly boy
Posted 4:58 AM 5/6/08
@avconsumer: very stealthy that one.
Major "can you see the target enemy tank at 10 miles?"
Corp "you mean the bright silver one glinting in the sun?"
fly boy
avconsumer
Posted 4:46 AM 5/6/08
I hope I'm not breaching national security... but... mirror armor?
avconsumer
harshmellow
Posted 5:08 AM 5/6/08
@axel000: Well crap, I guess I better stop making my awesome mirrored tank... I WAS GONNA RULE THE WORLD! I bet something would reflect this thing back on itself--how about...a diamond mirror! BWA HA HA.
@avconsumer: Watch your back.
Seriously though, I wonder if this thing has a solid beam or "bursts" (pew pew pew)?
harshmellow
ackthbbft
Posted 5:08 AM 5/6/08
@zakharm:
"So this is coherent light."
"You mean it talks?"
ackthbbft
fly boy
Posted 5:07 AM 5/6/08
Amicicide is the biggest issue this faces.
[www-cgsc.army.mil]
fly boy
qwopzxnm
Posted 5:06 AM 5/6/08
@Git Em SteveDave: "What about that time I caught you naked with that bowl of Jello?"
It was hot and I was hungry....
qwopzxnm
Git Em SteveDave
Posted 5:04 AM 5/6/08
@axel000: OK, if not a mirror, how about a disco ball? It rotates!
Git Em SteveDave
MastaFalse
Posted 5:53 AM 5/6/08
@fly boy: @fly boy: @
LOLKEKEKEKE
MastaFalse
aec007
Posted 5:48 AM 5/6/08
@weatherman: @nutbastard:
Instant SUNTAN... catchy name!
aec007
flyingcowofdoom
Posted 5:47 AM 5/6/08
Mirrors wouldn't be an effective defense against this laser. No mirror on Earth reflects ALL the light; it would still absorb enough to be annihilated. What you'd need is a device to bend the light around you. Perhaps some kind of portable gravity generator, or a cloaking device.
--FCOD
flyingcowofdoom
fly boy
Posted 5:42 AM 5/6/08
@asten77: as the speed of sound is so much slower - good luck on hearing it - when your balls fry
fly boy
frndlybnny
Posted 5:39 AM 5/6/08
That's it: I'm starting the National Laser Association. Our slogan will be "You can have my laser when you pry it out of my burnt, vaporized hands." Now, I just need to figure out a way to zombify Charlton Heston so he can be the president of our organization....
frndlybnny
asten77
Posted 5:27 AM 5/6/08
Unless it sounds like the Death Star Weapon, i will be disappointed.
asten77
jpbraconi
Posted 5:25 AM 5/6/08
it rly should come with sound effects!
jpbraconi
ackthbbft
Posted 5:21 AM 5/6/08
@harshmellow:
Most likely a burst that only lasts milliseconds, although I guess you could spin that and say it's a sustained beam which lasts milliseconds. ;)
ackthbbft
br4nd0n
Posted 6:18 AM 5/6/08
@Jeffrey McManus:
I've seen test of them destroying mortars or something with them.
Also I should note this weapon seems highly impractical for a terrorist to have and move around and use.
br4nd0n
avconsumer
Posted 6:10 AM 5/6/08
@frndlybnny: The NLA!! I'm in!!
@fly boy: Yeah... but by the time the (insert enemy of choice here..)'s figure out the effectiveness of mirror shields (many many years), conventional weaponry will be all but obsolete!!
As of 2058, all laser attack vehicles will have to have a mirror breaking sniper squad assigned (.50 cal - for the penetration capability versus 3rd generation bulletproof mirror shields). Course the Barrett Arms factory will have to dust off the old .50 cal sniper molds, since they deal strictly in lasers now.
It'll be like a whole NEW arms race. We'll eventually work our way up to nuclear capable mirror breakers....
j/k ;)
avconsumer
MastaFalse
Posted 5:55 AM 5/6/08
This would have such great applications, like ... pissing off the Google people everytime they had to take more pictures 'cause you had to go and draw crude penises on Mt. Rushmore.
MastaFalse
uberfu
Posted 7:14 AM 5/6/08
now all they have to do is figure out how to phase them out of our space-time and then every would be criminal on the balck market can have one_
uberfu
Git Em SteveDave
Posted 7:35 AM 5/6/08
@qwopzxnm: Incorrect. You must first deny it, then I must admit I was lying, whereupon you utter that line. The Belgian Judge gave you 7 for effort.
Git Em SteveDave
Nick_Bentley
Posted 11:48 AM 5/6/08
It seems cool, but that's a LOT of electricity needed so on a ship or air defense station, but I don't think we'll see a tank with one of these babies on it anytime soon. Of course someone already thought of putting it on a spy satellite if a solar array could charge up enough juice, and in space you wouldn't have to worry about thermal blooming when taking out hostile satellites or even space junk. It would probably be about as dangerous as Zapp Brannigan at a ribbon cutting ceremony...
Nick_Bentley
mwilhelm
Posted 1:45 AM 6/6/08
You make it sound like a 100kW laser would be the most powerful laser ever built. It will be the most powerful solid-state laser ever built. Chemical lasers run at much higher power.
mwilhelm
RebootEDC
Posted 2:59 AM 6/6/08
Everytime you point a laser to a plane, God kills a kitty.
RebootEDC
trickyt
Posted 1:56 AM 6/6/08
@mwilhelm:
A quick look at Laser on Wikipedia indicates that the most powerful laser as of 1998 can put out 1.3 Peta Watts. That would be over 40 billion times more powerful than this measly 25kW laser. Of course, the 1.3PW laser probably only fires pico-second pulses, making its energy use the equivalent of about a single Watt-second.
trickyt
FifiClymene
Posted 1:47 AM 6/6/08
@Nick_Bentley "It seems cool, but that's a LOT of electricity needed" Actually it's very little energy. The article says it can fire for multiple seconds. Suppose it fires for 4 seconds @ 25kW. That would require 100 kW-seconds of energy, which translates to 100 / 3600 = 1 / 36 = 0.0277 kW-hours. For comparison, that's about the same amount of energy required to run one 60W lightbulb for 30 minutes. Or assuming you get charged 15 cents / kWh, one of those laser pulses will run you about half a cent.
FifiClymene
YanaH
Posted 4:43 AM 6/6/08
Would a prism deflect it?
Thus, the Deflector Shield.
Ducks, runs away laughing.
-Yana
YanaH
Kaveh
Posted 2:04 AM 5/6/08
Now all they need are sharks.
Kaveh
CaptainDan
Posted 2:21 AM 10/6/08
"If I recall correctly, the Geneva Conventions forbid the use of lasers against human targets."
During my military days, we were told that the Geneva Conventions forbade the use of the .50 Cal machine gun as an antipersonnel weapon. We were told it was only to be used against military equipment - like belt buckles and helmets.
CaptainDan