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Space Lawyers Are Go!
Posted by Mark Wilson at 1:20 AM on May 14, 2008
The University of Mississippi is graduating the first ever space lawyer. While graduate Michael Dodge won't deal with judges sporting particularly wrinkled foreheads, he did draw his degree from the National Centre for Remote Sensing, Air and Space Law. With as long as the world has had satellites in the sky, it's surprising that space law took so long to break as its own discipline. Because I could use some advice as to my rights with my "Mark Wilson Is Totally Awesome" star, my "Merry Christmas 1994" star, my "Will You Marry Me Star" and my "Fuck That Bitch, I Was Just Joking" star. Sounds like Dodge signed up just in time. [Space via Newlaunches]

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Aidyn
Posted 2:03 AM 14/5/08
Short answer: No. Long answer: Depends on the jursidiction. And what do you call 100 lawyers in space? A good start. [rimshot]
Aidyn
TheDude06
Posted 2:02 AM 14/5/08
Ages ago, i saw a program about some guy selling land on the moon. I will never as long as i live forget the banner that went up on the screen as the guy was talking: "STONEY McGERALD: SPACE LAWYER"
TheDude06
DWD
Posted 2:02 AM 14/5/08
@Git Em SteveDave:
There isn't really a "US bar". There are only state bars. You can be admitted to practice before the U.S. Supreme Court, the Circuit Courts, Federal District Courts, U.S. Tax Courts, etc., but they are all dependent on an attorney being admitted to a state bar.
Don't know what you mean by "international recognition," if you want to practice before an international court, you'd likely have to be admitted to that court which would be dependent on your good status in the country of origin, but your admission would not be automatic, so, I don't think it would be proper to say U.S. attorneys have international recognition.
DWD
Git Em SteveDave
Posted 1:54 AM 14/5/08
Please someone correct me if I am wrong, but if you are recognized by a US bar, does that mean you have international recognition?
Git Em SteveDave
jdhuck
Posted 1:52 AM 14/5/08
@SharkByte: Do you mean shooting lawyers into space, or launching lawyers into space, then shooting them?
jdhuck
bez_online
Posted 1:47 AM 14/5/08
Is that an obscure Thunderbirds reference I see in the title? Figured I have to ask being English and all...
bez_online
scoobyonline2000
Posted 1:45 AM 14/5/08
"Fuck That Bitch, I Was Just Joking" star... LMAO!!!!.. man that was funny as hell.
scoobyonline2000
Curves
Posted 1:42 AM 14/5/08
Lawyers in space.....as if enough crap isnt already floating around up there.
Curves
SharkByte
Posted 1:40 AM 14/5/08
damn, i thought this was about shooting lawyers into space. oh well...
SharkByte
Monty
Posted 1:25 AM 14/5/08
I trademarked the 'Mark Wilson Is Totally Awesome' star about five years ago before anyone even knew who Mark Wilson was, so you better get that attorney ready, Mark.
Monty
DCGaymer
Posted 2:31 AM 14/5/08
Oh great, a state with a corrupt legal system now export ready for space.
DCGaymer
Git Em SteveDave
Posted 2:25 AM 14/5/08
@DWD: I was asking because the article made it seem like this person would be handling international matters, and was wondering if he "could" do that.
Git Em SteveDave
DWD
Posted 3:12 AM 14/5/08
@Git Em SteveDave:
Even though one is practicing international law, it usually is still done in some particular jurisdiction (country) as opposed to a true international court. Very few matters actually go before the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Netherlands, which handles disputes between nations rather than individuals or entities of different nations.
The U.S. has a lot of international lawyers which never practice outside the U.S. Plus, only a small fraction of attorneys ever see the inside of a courtroom. A lot of international law is transactional as opposed to involving litigation.
DWD
liveinvt
Posted 3:35 AM 14/5/08
Sounds like international relations to me.
liveinvt
frigg
Posted 3:29 AM 14/5/08
@Git Em SteveDave: Ostensibly this type of lawyer would be representing Earth at the solar system or galaxy level in disputes involving the Milky Way, Andromeda, Triangulum, M32, M10, and the many nearby dwarf galaxies ... excuse me ... "little galaxies" that occupy the so-called Local Group, when Will Smith is otherwise too preoccupied to kick alien butt on our behalf.
frigg
Git Em SteveDave
Posted 4:06 AM 14/5/08
@N@tedog: And when you get your structured settlement for the invasion of YOUR space, call JG Wentwerth to get your money now.
Git Em SteveDave
Git Em SteveDave
Posted 4:05 AM 14/5/08
@frigg: Also when Daniel and Dr. Weir are off world. I should copy this guys number down in case the Vorgon fleet does show up.
@DWD: Thanks for the info.
Git Em SteveDave
N@tedog
Posted 4:05 AM 14/5/08
Neighbors crowding YOUR space? Call 1-800-IMA-DICK. It's your space and you deserve it.
ITS MY SPACE AND I WANT IT NOW!
N@tedog
psxndc
Posted 4:17 AM 14/5/08
Surprised no one mentioned Patents in space:
35 U.S.C. 105 Inventions in outer space.
(a) Any invention made, used, or sold in outer space on a space object or component thereof under the jurisdiction or control of the United States shall be considered to be made, used or sold within the United States for the purposes of this title, except with respect to any space object or component thereof that is specifically identified and otherwise provided for by an international agreement to which the United States is a party, or with respect to any space object or component thereof that is carried on the registry of a foreign state in accordance with the Convention on Registration of Objects Launched into Outer Space.
(b) Any invention made, used, or sold in outer space on a space object or component thereof that is carried on the registry of a foreign state in accordance with the Convention on Registration of Objects Launched into Outer Space, shall be considered to be made, used, or sold within the United States for the purposes of this title if specifically so agreed in an international agreement between the United States and the state of registry.
psxndc
nutbastard
Posted 5:13 AM 14/5/08
@Git Em SteveDave:
"Please someone correct me if I am wrong, but if you are recognized by a US bar, does that mean you have international recognition"
Nope. When i go into my bar here, everyone recognizes me. I tried going to Russia and I told the Barkeep I'll have my usual and he just looked at me funny and said, "Shtol?"
nutbastard
OG512
Posted 5:47 AM 14/5/08
what good is a space lawyer if there is no space judge and jury? we can also get **Bull** from Night Court to act as space bailiff in the new "Space Court".
SpaceHeads!
OG512
maztec
Posted 6:48 AM 14/5/08
@Git Em SteveDave: He may eventually get international recognition. Until then, he is just another lawyer in a crowd of lawyers who is drumming up some recognition for himself by advertising that he did something novel. Never mind that his legal education was nearly identical with all of his fellow students. The only thing "unique" is his focus area - which are generally optional and not recognized on the degree. Focus areas are typically 15 to 25 credits of education geared towards one subject. Basically one semester out of the six that you go to law school. Although, it is possible he did a dual degree, much like an MBA/Law combination, which takes an additional year of study and grants you with a masters in another field. It sounds like that might have been what he did here.
One thing that is not mentioned in the article is if he has a job lined up. Nearly all successful law students will have their first job lined up, or already have one, straight out of law school. If he does not have that, then he is either doing nothing or hoping to be an academic. If academic then more of a "Space Law Professor" than a "Space Lawyer". Big difference.
I would think that the articles would be advertising if he had a space law job to go with his degree. It appears he does not. Most likely he will spend the next 5 years in private practice before obtaining some degree of recognition within International law. After that he will work his way towards international technology and ultimately space related issues.
This really is the beginning of his career path. This article, and others like it that have been on him, are attempts to drum up recognition and to possibly find him a relevant job.
Ultimately, he is just another lawyer churned out of the law school puppy mill, that will most likely change his interest and area of practice three to four times before quitting. Although, a good portion of modern law students quit the profession after two years because it is "too hard" or not what they dreamed it to be. Nevertheless, it stands that most lawyers do and will change their practice area three or four times before retirement and as career moves.
Good luck to him. But is he a space lawyer? No, he is a space academic at this point. He will be a space lawyer when he has been practicing space law, full time, for at least five years.
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maztec
danniboi33
Posted 2:01 AM 14/5/08
Well, I guess it will now become a movie.
danniboi33
GadgetPlay
Posted 3:36 PM 14/5/08
@psxndc: Huh?
GadgetPlay